[MrVon]

Currently i live in Los Angeles and this place is full of females who been corrupted by media, matriarchal society and silly man, dunno how to explain it in few words, but this women care less about traditional values and see being housewife as oppression (kitchen slavery etc).
They want independence financial, in their actions and from all household duties yet want man to treat them the same as in the past and cater to them, just for fact that they have vagina and pair of tits and if you want to use those you better pay and give them attention in form of money you spend on them etc.
Basically they are not trustworthy and not reliable.

I however find myself in situation that i cannot leave US and i need to fix my papers so i got to marry a US women. I don't want a fake marriage where i pay her, i want a real thing (without kids).

I hate big cities, think they are filled with trashy people and degraded women, my theory i got to look in small towns or communities that practice god fearing lifestyle.

Online dating is filled with whores and disgusting for me. Going into churches in LA i never see any young women who is single only bunch of old people.

Looking to make a move out of the California with the purpose to find a women appropriate for relationship and stay there, i care less about how much money i make there so poor parts of the country are even better because i need to find women who will depend on me for survival.

What parts of US i should look into? and why you think women there are going to be any different?

[fmman]

If a woman is shunning tradition and wanting independence then she can afford to pay half on dates at least, they can't have it both ways. I think they are confused. How many women do you know of who have good jobs and good money, but would not be happy with any man earning less than they do. The two American women I have had have been married at least twice or more. One from PA the other MI. One did very well out of the divorces as kids are involved, the other not.

Why move to be near women who will depend on you for survival? I don't want that. I don't want some lady taking all my money, its a complex form of prostitution. Call me old fashioned but I don't want a girl to be with me for my money and material things. I would rather they are with me for just me. I had a brazilian who would never take out her wallet, I got rid of her as I was pissed off with paying for everything

[MrVon]

(01-26-2019 08:21 AM)fmman Wrote:  

If a woman is shunning tradition and wanting independence then she can afford to pay half on dates at least, they can't have it both ways.

They use "dual standards" when its convenient to them they call themselves weak women who needs a strong man to help her, when its inconvenient anymore they say i am independent women i am not your house slave.

(01-26-2019 08:21 AM)fmman Wrote:  

Why move to be near women who will depend on you for survival? I don't want that. I don't want some lady taking all my money, its a complex form of prostitution. Call me old fashioned but I don't want a girl to be with me for my money and material things. I would rather they are with me for just me.

You talking about modern mindset women who want man to sponsor spree of blowing money on useless things just for the pleasure of having her around. In LA women are used to this lifestyle and used to have freedom of going out to whore with their friends while husband is home he is forced to participate in way his wife trying to entertain herself, he has no power to say no in his own house, she simply would not care because she is "independent".

Traditional role of women to take care of man, house and children, not to whore herself and have man jump hoops around her pleading to have sex with him.

I am not looking for women who will be with me for money, i need poor women who will depend on me for survival, this is the main ground for successful marriage, because she is afraid to lose the man, modern women has govmt. funding and can survive on her own she does not need man unless he gives her more.

How do i put this, women especially in big cities like LA are insatiable they always looking for an upgrade, they about money and how to play man to get more out of him then throw him while they do nothing in return share house with you and sometimes sleep with you.

What i need is women who for some reason does not exhibit this behavior, she satisfied with life she already has if she drives old car she care less as long as it does what she needs, she is poor and she used to this she not trying to make a jump big change in her life. I occasionally see ads of women who want to relocate from small town to LA for better life, this only shows that they don't know what they want in their life, they chase dreams of wealthy living TV put in their head, instead of working on their inner self, they are mental blanks, without morals, spoiled children who want to trade sex for good living.

Smart women, there are no smart women, there are women who think they are smart, they just employ smart schemes to play man, in problem solving they are very silly and no good for family scenario.

[eradicator]

I lived 15 years in Los Angeles and while some of what the op says has merit, I did find plenty of quality women that were not shitty. You just have to talk to more girls.

That said, op sounds like he has more problems with his health and overall outlook. We don’t hate women on this forum, we love them.

[fmman]

While I agree with most of what you just said Mr Von, a woman who depends on you for survival, surely that is the same as buying a woman? I don't dispute that such a woman should in theory be more loyal than your LA girl looking to upgrade.
You need a woman who thinks that since she met you her life has changed for the better so much or she loves being with you so much that she couldn't imagine a life without you in it. What you provide for her is a bonus

[brianmark]

(01-26-2019 09:10 AM)MrVon Wrote:  

(01-26-2019 08:21 AM)fmman Wrote:  

If a woman is shunning tradition and wanting independence then she can afford to pay half on dates at least, they can't have it both ways.

They use "dual standards" when its convenient to them they call themselves weak women who needs a strong man to help her, when its inconvenient anymore they say i am independent women i am not your house slave.

(01-26-2019 08:21 AM)fmman Wrote:  

Why move to be near women who will depend on you for survival? I don't want that. I don't want some lady taking all my money, its a complex form of prostitution. Call me old fashioned but I don't want a girl to be with me for my money and material things. I would rather they are with me for just me.

You talking about modern mindset women who want man to sponsor spree of blowing money on useless things just for the pleasure of having her around. In LA women are used to this lifestyle and used to have freedom of going out to whore with their friends while husband is home he is forced to participate in way his wife trying to entertain herself, he has no power to say no in his own house, she simply would not care because she is "independent".

Traditional role of women to take care of man, house and children, not to whore herself and have man jump hoops around her pleading to have sex with him.

I am not looking for women who will be with me for money, i need poor women who will depend on me for survival, this is the main ground for successful marriage, because she is afraid to lose the man, modern women has govmt. funding and can survive on her own she does not need man unless he gives her more.

How do i put this, women especially in big cities like LA are insatiable they always looking for an upgrade, they about money and how to play man to get more out of him then throw him while they do nothing in return share house with you and sometimes sleep with you.

What i need is women who for some reason does not exhibit this behavior, she satisfied with life she already has if she drives old car she care less as long as it does what she needs, she is poor and she used to this she not trying to make a jump big change in her life. I occasionally see ads of women who want to relocate from small town to LA for better life, this only shows that they don't know what they want in their life, they chase dreams of wealthy living TV put in their head, instead of working on their inner self, they are mental blanks, without morals, spoiled children who want to trade sex for good living.

Smart women, there are no smart women, there are women who think they are smart, they just employ smart schemes to play man, in problem solving they are very silly and no good for family scenario.

Very interesting. I agree with you that L. A. has a lot of gold-diggers.

I don't think you can find a woman poor enough to be with you for survival in the US. Most women have a family, credit cards, and if there is the welfare system.

How old are you? What is your ethnic background? What are you bringing to the table that women would want? How can you prove to a woman that you can take care of her needs?

As far as where to live. Not in LA, Las Vegas, New York, Miami, Atlanta, or any major city. Women are too much into their careers. Maybe you should look at second tier cities that aren't doing so well and that girls are having a hard time finding a job. I'm not sure there are any in this economy. The problem with small towns is that young marrying type girls, marry their high school sweethearts.

Good luck!

[Sidney Crosby]

[PapayaTapper]

OP...try one of the "states" below. Its a part of America called "Central" and is especially viable for what youre looking for right now

[MrVon]

(01-26-2019 09:24 AM)eradicator Wrote:  

I lived 15 years in Los Angeles and while some of what the op says has merit, I did find plenty of quality women that were not shitty. You just have to talk to more girls.

Could you describe why they were different i want to understand background that makes them different from majority.

(01-26-2019 09:24 AM)eradicator Wrote:  

That said, op sounds like he has more problems with his health and overall outlook. We don’t hate women on this forum, we love them.

We fuck them you mean? Fucking and to living side by side for the years is very different thing.
Women employ demo-mode for the men they like, pretending to be something they are not, if you not started relationship long term relationship with her you never see her actual self just what she want you to see.

[MrVon]

(01-26-2019 09:26 AM)fmman Wrote:  

You need a woman who thinks that since she met you her life has changed for the better so much or she loves being with you so much that she couldn't imagine a life without you in it. What you provide for her is a bonus

I disagree with this scenario because women has hormonal mood swings she can change mood many times a day for no apparent reason.
If you base your family on how women feels about you then you put yourself into bad position from beginning.

You put yourself in position of always making sure she feels good about you and so you cater to her feelings, easier you fall for her manipulations. women routinely manipulate man to get them to do what they one example making up false resentment and silent treatment until you say "i am sorry" even if you have not done anything.
If you make your her feeling your responsibility you will fall for all her manipulations trying to cater to her.

Love and affection tend to go away with time, if you base your family on how you feel today in 2 years when you stop loving her you should divorce and look for another one. Women always base their decisions on the feelings and fears so she will marry you because she feels that its right thing to do, however women also can stop feeling this way and there should be more things keeping her with you than her feelings like economical reasons, she even if she does not love you she needs you for survival.

(01-26-2019 10:03 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

OP...try one of the "states" below. Its a part of America called "Central" and is especially viable for what youre looking for right now

I am in delicate situation, i cannot leave US (even if i want to go back), otherwise i would not bother with American women.

(01-26-2019 09:39 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

How old are you? What is your ethnic background? What are you bringing to the table that women would want?

34, Russian, not much by big city standards.

(01-26-2019 09:39 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

How can you prove to a woman that you can take care of her needs?

It depends what needs she has it vary from person to person.


I look for something between this lines:

• Down to earth, not ambitious
• submissive does not try to take lead or have it her way
• has on average job like hairdresser or waitress,
• not social or outgoing (introvert), shy is pluss
• Ideally lonely or struggle to find relationship
• Not too smart, cold be mentally or physically impaired to a degree.
• strong religious background is a plus.
• does not use heavy makeup or dress explicitly is plus
  

Perhaps i could check small towns churches like around Mississippi area?

[eradicator]

Mr Von, I’m talking about girls with good values, aren’t addicted to social media, only have sex with guys in a relationship,

You can find this in Los Angeles sure but you may have to look a little harder and find girls that are from other countries.

Not all the girls in LA are gold digging trashy whores and party girls. Do day game

[MrVon]

(01-26-2019 10:34 AM)eradicator Wrote:  

Mr Von, I’m talking about girls with good values, aren’t addicted to social media, only have sex with guys in a relationship,

You can find this in Los Angeles sure but you may have to look a little harder and find girls that are from other countries.

Not all the girls in LA are gold digging trashy whores and party girls. Do day game

Unless there's criteria that can help me distinguish them from the rest approaching bunch of random women on street is not ideal simply because majority women in big cities are rotten and i have to dig trough lots of junk to find rare exceptions. In my case goal is not a hookup, i have to spend lots of time to find out what she really is, and i already know specifics i been in LA for 10 years
Worked as Uber/Lyft driver for several years, out of my observations on average out of 100 women who get in my car only 1 is decent.
On Saturday and Sunday between 6am-12pm there's no traffic in entire city of Los Angeles, because people been clubbing all night and now they sleep until noon.

Really i cannot stand this stupid city anymore i am out of here by the summer in any way i need to change environment and i rather not look for reasons to stay in LA any longer.

[PapayaTapper]

What nationality are you?

Edit. Never mind just saw your edit above

[Kid Twist]

Interesting thread, what OP says resonates with me, we are very biased by big city living as well in the US, which is mainly blue madness and on the decline, but with money still around.

Other areas of the country are likely better. It doesn't help that sane religious communities are dwindling like crazy, and even when girls are raised in them, the western idea of secularism (go somewhere sunday, then just go right back into your "real" life the rest of the week) really has the upper hand.

[Axel99]

Absolutley not possible imo. Plus why do you want a trad girl they boring af.

[MrVon]

(01-26-2019 01:47 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  

Absolutley not possible imo. Plus why do you want a trad girl they boring af.

What productive conversations can one have with a women, all they talk about is same boring stuff, less she talk is better.

[SaintLaurentJake]

(01-26-2019 10:03 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

OP...try one of the "states" below. Its a part of America called "Central" and is especially viable for what youre looking for right now

OP, You cant turn a hoe into a housewife, and unfortunately a majority of American women are hoes. Go to Central and South America, guarantee you find a good woman who will treat you well. Be sure to screen for golddiggers obviously.

[RatInTheWoods]

I dated a very nice milf for a few years, she was a single owner.

Married young for 20 years, shitty husband. She left him but raised her kids on her own.

A good woman, with a cock count of 1 when I met her at 40.

They are rare, but out there....

[The Beast1]

(01-26-2019 08:00 AM)MrVon Wrote:  

Online dating is filled with whores and disgusting for me. Going into churches in LA i never see any young women who is single only bunch of old people.

You obviously haven't looked hard enough.

Go here:

https://mosaic.org/

Seriously, they have a tab called GIRLS. IE a special girls only retreat even thing happening in Feb .

Here's the FB: https://www.facebook.com/pg/MosaicLA/pho...e_internal

Lots of decent looking girls scrolling through that FB page. Their denomination is southern baptist, which they don't claim to be but they are if you research into the pastor and the church's history. They shame promiscuity and don't marry gays. Their church is smack dab in the middle of Hollywood. You might find a ton of reformed skanks, but just weed through them. This is the type of community that keeps their women in line.

The congregation size is several thousand. If you can't find a girl in a sample size that large, you might want to adjust your attitude.

[PapayaTapper]

(01-26-2019 03:18 PM)MrVon Wrote:  

(01-26-2019 01:47 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  

Absolutley not possible imo. Plus why do you want a trad girl they boring af.

What productive conversations can one have with a women, all they talk about is same boring stuff, less she talk is better.

Ok...you just totally changed my view of you


Welcome to RVF

[AntoniusofEfa]

OP, I am not sure if you are trolling or not.

If you say that you are 34, and cannot bring much to the table, and need to get married quickly to get the US papers, than I'd say that you are shit out of luck. You have nothing to offer to a women in her prime, and women your are still think they can get Mr. Big. I'd say, go for the ones a few year older (say, 36 to 38) and offer them that what most men in your age with their shit in order will not offer: commitment. Even better, get them pregnant.

It seems like your papers issue is the biggest at the moment, and you need to solve this.

[ChefAllDay]

(01-26-2019 03:18 PM)MrVon Wrote:  

What productive conversations can one have with a women, all they talk about is same boring stuff, less she talk is better.

Awesome and true +1. I like this thread if it can stay on track.

[brianmark]

(01-26-2019 10:25 AM)MrVon Wrote:  

(01-26-2019 09:39 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

How old are you? What is your ethnic background? What are you bringing to the table that women would want?

34, Russian, not much by big city standards.

(01-26-2019 09:39 AM)brianmark Wrote:  

How can you prove to a woman that you can take care of her needs?

It depends what needs she has it vary from person to person.


I look for something between this lines:

• Down to earth, not ambitious
• submissive does not try to take lead or have it her way
• has on average job like hairdresser or waitress,
• not social or outgoing (introvert), shy is pluss
• Ideally lonely or struggle to find relationship
• Not too smart, cold be mentally or physically impaired to a degree.
• strong religious background is a plus.
• does not use heavy makeup or dress explicitly is plus
  

Perhaps i could check small towns churches like around Mississippi area?

Mississippi is mainly black. So if you don't like black chicks don't waste your time. Yes, poor country hick chicks would be more dependent. Below average looking chicks would be more needy. You have to have something to make the girl's life better or else they won't marry you.

[Aquarius]

He can try Oxford or even starkville. Mostly white chicks there. Tupelo is also majority white

[fmman]

(01-26-2019 03:18 PM)MrVon Wrote:  

(01-26-2019 01:47 PM)Axel99 Wrote:  

Absolutley not possible imo. Plus why do you want a trad girl they boring af.

What productive conversations can one have with a women, all they talk about is same boring stuff, less she talk is better.

You have been talking to the wrong women then. I actually enjoyed talking with my ex, sure they go on about shit sometimes but so does anyone sometimes. I can't think of anything more boring than a quiet shy girl who says fuck all and has the personality of a wet fish. They are usually crap in bed too.