[Rakers]

'All I wanted was to be loved': Virgin, 27, is arrested after posting on Facebook his plan to carry out mass shooting at Utah women's march and kill 'as many girls as I see' because he had been rejected so many times

Christopher Cleary, 27, was arrested in Provo, Utah, on Saturday after making the threat on Facebook

He wrote that he had 'never had a girlfriend and was still a virgin' which was why he was planning on 'shooting up a public space'

Police found the Denver resident at a McDonald's near the Airbnb he'd rented

It is unclear whether or not he had any weapons with him at the time
There were several women's marches happening around the country on Sunday

Cleary is now facing a felony threat of terrorism charge and is still in custody





https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...s-see.html

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

Dude looks a little weird, but there are plenty of normal guys that look like him that have a girlfriend or wife. If he's a virgin, it's purely due to a lack of game. I mean, obviously, he probably has a messed up personality, but game can help a guy overcome the weirdness, at least enough to get laid. Also, he's probably wrapped around the axle with bitterness and butt hurt now, but when he was in his late teens, if he could have learned some game, he probably never would have gotten to the state he's in today regarding women.

It's amazing that learning game is completely rejected by mainstream society. There are so many men who need it.

[moneyshot]

glad they got Elliot Rodger 2.0 before he got the chance to follow through with his plans.

also glad the bitter 27yo virgin was stupid enough to warn everyone that he planned on shooting a bunch of people.

[Delta]

This might be stating the obvious, but if you really intend to commit a mass killing, you don't warn everyone on social media beforehand. Posts like this are purely a cry for attention and/or help.

[Scoundrel]

With that atrocious grammar & disregard for punctuation, little wonder that no woman ever wanted to be his girlfriend.

[Atlanta Man]

Sad. He just needed a passport and a trip to Columbia-He would have received a fuckton of love, from several women, in some cases two or more at a time. He is wasting his Caucasian skin in a prison cell for getting emotional online, and not addressing his internal problems in a mature fashion. He was going to shoot strange women in America when he should have had sex with strange women in Columbia. Wasted potential.....he also could have gone to the Dominican Republic.

[DarkTriad]

Did he actually threaten the Women's March or is that something they invented?

[Horus]

By posting his plan on Facebook, he never planned to carry it out. It was just a cry for sympathy and he wanted some attention. Just like girls who post long tearful suicide notes on Facebook, and then take a slightly higher than recommended dose of sleeping pills.

[BlastbeatCasanova]

Sad. The mental torment of an incel living in 2019 with social media and hot thots prancing around must be pretty hard to live with, but definitely not an excuse to commit murder or some kind of crime. Incel crimes don’t do anything but bring horrible optics to men everywhere

[Disco_Volante]

There are so many hot hookers in costa rica / colombia for $60, more dudes need to get that $350 plane ticket and ease some tension.

[bk19xsa]

I wanted to know, in terms of law, whether his charges of 'intention to commit a terrorist act' can be proved by his post alone. What if he says he was joking and it was a bad post?

I bring this up because many people post a lot of bad shit on social media and nothing happens. Are there laws already existing that state any sort of 'intent' shown even if it is a joke can be deemed as real intent and be fully prosecuted by the law?

[Atlanta Man]

(01-24-2019 12:49 PM)bk19xsa Wrote:  

I wanted to know, in terms of law, whether his charges of 'intention to commit a terrorist act' can be proved by his post alone. What if he says he was joking and it was a bad post?

I bring this up because many people post a lot of bad shit on social media and nothing happens. Are there laws already existing that state any sort of 'intent' shown even if it is a joke can be deemed as real intent and be fully prosecuted by the law?

The post, plus the action of travel,is enough to secure the warrant-the police traced him by his phone so they will likely get a warrant to search anything he communicates with. We shall see how it goes-he will likely take a plea deal.

[Delta]

(01-24-2019 12:41 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

There are so many hot hookers in costa rica / colombia for $60, more dudes need to get that $350 plane ticket and ease some tension.

Do people really believe paying to fuck a hooker would provide long-term relief from loneliness and depression?

The only solution for guys like this is to improve themselves, become the type of man a woman might be interested in, and get a girlfriend. But judging by his atrociously written facebook post, this dude probably doesn't have the mental capacity to make meaningful changes in his life, let alone get decent at game.

Unfortunately, as long as the dating market is such that low-value men like this can't attract a similarly low-value woman, we'll continue having to deal with the antics of bitter, deranged incels.

[SamuelBRoberts]

All the girls who refused to sleep with this guy were pretty smart. Can you imagine having a guy whose mind works like "I can't get a date, time to go shoot some people!" as a boyfriend?

[Jozi]

(01-24-2019 12:08 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Sad. He just needed a passport and a trip to Columbia-He would have received a fuckton of love, from several women, in some cases two or more at a time. He is wasting his Caucasian skin in a prison cell for getting emotional online, and not addressing his internal problems in a mature fashion. He was going to shoot strange women in America when he should have had sex with strange women in Columbia. Wasted potential.....he also could have gone to the Dominican Republic.

What is Columbia?

Sorry but people who can't spell Colombia correctly (it's even spelled the way it's pronounced) gets on my nerves. And 90% of Native English speakers seems to be making this mistake. I just don't get it.

[kaotic]

(01-24-2019 01:35 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 12:08 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Sad. He just needed a passport and a trip to Columbia-He would have received a fuckton of love, from several women, in some cases two or more at a time. He is wasting his Caucasian skin in a prison cell for getting emotional online, and not addressing his internal problems in a mature fashion. He was going to shoot strange women in America when he should have had sex with strange women in Columbia. Wasted potential.....he also could have gone to the Dominican Republic.

What is Columbia?

Sorry but people who can't spell Colombia correctly (it's even spelled the way it's pronounced) gets on my nerves. And it seems it's an error made by 90% of Native English speakers. I just don't get it.

[Waqqle]

He's not a looker but that's mostly because his style, hygiene, and probably diet are off. He isn't tragically disfigured or anything. He just looks like how a lot of winning guys would if they didn't try ever. If he knew anything about health, style, or game and was willing to put in the effort to act upon that knowledge, he wouldn't have issue. This is why "just be yourself" is such a crappy thing for parents and adults to tell kids who are struggling. Game saves lives.

I wonder if he was on any psyche meds and/or anti-depressants. A number of them have been known to cause people with certain liver variants to become homicidal.

Dan Savage make a good point starting at 2:27 (about legalizing prostitution because that is the only way some people will ever get laid, not about anything else he says):

Imagine how many of these guys would otherwise be murderers. On another note, this is also an example of how porn and technology addiction can be dangerous.

The financial and attention aspect of prostitution is already legal in the US in the form of Insta-thots and the like so the females are already getting the money and admiration. Might as well make the physical part legal so that thirsty incels can get the carnal benefits as well. It won't happen though, not so long as females can vote (as they comprise the majority of the eligible-to-vote population), and for the same reason that sex dolls will never be made fully legal: females want themselves to be the only possible outlet for all male attention and resources. When even an incel can have his thirst quenched on the regular, albeit through less than ideal means, how many men in society will be likely to pathetically bend the knee and be led around by any particular female in the vain hope of maybe "getting lucky" with her eventually?

[Horus]

(01-24-2019 01:35 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

What is Columbia?

Sorry but people who can't spell Colombia correctly (it's even spelled the way it's pronounced) gets on my nerves. And 90% of Native English speakers seems to be making this mistake. I just don't get it.

It's even worse when someone matches a plural subject with a singular verb. I just don't get it.

[SaintLaurentJake]

(01-24-2019 12:41 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  

There are so many hot hookers in costa rica / colombia for $60, more dudes need to get that $350 plane ticket and ease some tension.

Perhaps this is why Incels predominately come from countries like the US, UK where hypergamy, thotery have taken over and game is required to get decent girls. It also doesnt help that pretty much ALL Incels have a defeatist attitude and expect to get laid with no effort.

[porscheguy]

This guy will get plenty of sex while spending the next few years in prison.

I feel no sympathy for dudes like this. I’m betting he’s cut from the same cloth as Elliot Rodger.

[Horus]

The darkest of ironies is that if he had carried out the attack and survived, he would have been drowning in female attention.

All mass murderers received oceans of female adulation while they were in prison - Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, that Norwegian guy, even Jeffrey Dahmer who was a gay necrophile. This guy would have been no exception.

Hybristophilia is classed as a paraphilia where women are aroused by men who do terrible things. At the mild end of the scale includes acts such as lying, violence, infidelity etc. Most guys here will know that almost all women are aroused to varying degrees by this. In its most extreme form, women are aroused by men who commit atrocities such as rape and murder. This is probably more common than anyone is comfortable to admit.

[Kona]

(01-24-2019 01:35 PM)Jozi Wrote:  

(01-24-2019 12:08 PM)Atlanta Man Wrote:  

Sad. He just needed a passport and a trip to Columbia-He would have received a fuckton of love, from several women, in some cases two or more at a time. He is wasting his Caucasian skin in a prison cell for getting emotional online, and not addressing his internal problems in a mature fashion. He was going to shoot strange women in America when he should have had sex with strange women in Columbia. Wasted potential.....he also could have gone to the Dominican Republic.

What is Columbia?

Sorry but people who can't spell Colombia correctly (it's even spelled the way it's pronounced) gets on my nerves. And 90% of Native English speakers seems to be making this mistake. I just don't get it.

Maybe its autocorrect making the mistake junior. You gotta relax.

Aloha!

[eradicator]

(01-24-2019 12:49 PM)bk19xsa Wrote:  

I wanted to know, in terms of law, whether his charges of 'intention to commit a terrorist act' can be proved by his post alone. What if he says he was joking and it was a bad post?

I bring this up because many people post a lot of bad shit on social media and nothing happens. Are there laws already existing that state any sort of 'intent' shown even if it is a joke can be deemed as real intent and be fully prosecuted by the law?

Or better yet, lets say some snotty bitch is really rude to you at the library, she leaves her computer and you get on and it turns out that she left her facebook logged in. You can totally fuck her life up by planning a bomb scare on facebook on her account, making her a terrorist, and whatnot.

[PapayaTapper]

(01-24-2019 01:30 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

All the girls who refused to sleep with this guy were pretty smart. Can you imagine having a guy whose mind works like "I can't get a date, time to go shoot some people!" as a boyfriend?

No...no I cant...

[Wutang]

Hookers won't cure the Elliot Rodgers of the world. It is not the mere lack of physical release that's causing these guys to go haywire. If you read through Rodger's manifesto, you'll see actually had a below average sex drive. His complaints weren't about him feeling horny and not being able to quench it. Rather, what you see over and over again is him longing to have a hot, blonde Stacy girlfriend who is going to love and adore him. It's all about the ego boost of knowing that you are capable of attracting a high status woman like that. If a big part of a man's sense of self-worth is based on what sort of woman he attracts, you can only imagine how a man who can't attract any woman, even a land-whale, is going to feel like.

Dan Savage's comment about how legalizing and de-stigmatizing sex work as a cure is just pure hooplah. He speaks in the video about how there's a notion that guys who see prostitutes as losers. Well if you try to encourage all these incels, who are at the bottom of the chain in terms of social value to see hookers, wouldn't that just further reinforce the idea only losers pay for it? Savage even makes a comment how he would be wary of leaving a guy with the sort of psychological problems an incel has in a room with a hooker.