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No girls seems interested?
#1

No girls seems interested?

Hey. First time poster on here and just need some advice. I am no expert and still a very noob at this (still have massive approaching anxiety and need some tips on this as well) but whenever I talk to girls through friends or in general they all just don’t seem interested in me. I guess I am decent at reading girls body language because whenever I see my friends talk to girls I can see that are hooked into him by girls vibe and body languaged or not and I am usually right and from what I been seeing, I honesty don’t think any girls have been into me lol, I don’t think I ever had the “this girl seems to be into me feeling” . I don’t know what I could be doing wrong. My friends say my game is good and I have really good humor, and I am pretty handsome guy. Maybe I need better frame, more abundance, talk to more girls?
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#2

No girls seems interested?

Take what your friends tell you with a grain of salt. They might not want to hurt your feelings. My friends used to pay my terrible game lip service, and when I finally stopped believing them I made massive strides in game.

So let's start from the beginning.

If you're not getting results: your game is BAD. Doesn't matter what your friends say. The good news, is once you know where you're at, you can actually improve!

First things first, are you being noticed by women before you say anything? For example, do you walk into a room and notice eyes on you? Do they look away when you meet their gaze?

Second thing, how many women have you tried to game? Take us through some approaches, and give us more detail on what you said, and how the women reacted.

Third, do you lift? If you don't, head over to the fitness section and start reading. If you're on RVF, you should be lifting.

Let's get some details, and then we can really break down your sticking points.
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#3

No girls seems interested?

In addition to what Investment Bro said, are many of these girls in your social circle, especially if at college/university?

If you are already known as a "nice guy" in a social circle, it can be difficult to get attraction as all girls would have talked about it.

In my main social circle from university, I never got any attraction even after started improving myself because they all knew I was a virgin. Things only changed when they heard stories about me having more success outside the social circle. This was true even when a girl would bring her home friends. They pretty much knew the order of things because the single ones would get prior info on who was what.

On the other hand, some of my friends would always get the hooked vibe you are talking about and it would be pretty obvious. Pre-selection at work.
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#4

No girls seems interested?

Well I usually game during parties. I tried night game at clubs with my friends who also does pickup with me but it just doesn’t seem my style and I also like going to raves and game there if I am in the mood and it feels a lot better then night club game. I want to improve social/party game first then work on doing day game after I over come my fears of approaching hahaha. Usually girls look away but some don’t and I usually look away if I don’t (need to learn hold eye contact). During these parties these girls already categorized me as the “asshole guy” or the “fuck boy” because sometimes during these parties I may make out with 1-2 girls and sometimes girls ask who I am (maybe it’s cause there drunk I get these make outs) and then nothing happens after.I may have approached little as 100-120 girls so far during these night club/party game because of my anxiety and I am usually extrovert. My closest success with a girl was actually at a party that I kissed and then I started msging her and after a few conversation it just feels obvious that she didn’t like me, because she started disqualifying herself and my text game is awful aswell. met her at another party and she saw me talking to other girls and got jealous but I ended up making out with her again and my friends tells me that she’s obvious into you, then went on a date and felt it was ok. But she ended up meeting another guy at another party and I felt devistated and confused some reason. Don’t think it’s my looks because girls usually say I am handsome, cute or whatever but they do say I am weird lol..... glad my game sucks so I can get better. I usually just be myself and bring humor/dominate personality into the table but it isn’t working some reason. But I see my other friend kills it with girls when I am with it and makes me feel jealous inside some reason.
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#5

No girls seems interested?

You don't need to improve your daygame or your night game.

You need to improve your game fundamentals, which is what is going to give you the most success.

Quote: (01-15-2019 05:18 PM)Commando Legend Wrote:  

Usually girls look away but some don’t and I usually look away if I don’t (need to learn hold eye contact).

Next time a girl makes eye contact with you, smile at them. If she smiles back, consider that a green light to approach. Part of what separates "good game" from "bad game" is what prospects you approach. Qualifying leads like this is going to lead you to a higher success rate, which will help boost your confidence.

Quote: (01-15-2019 05:18 PM)Commando Legend Wrote:  

During these parties these girls already categorized me as the “asshole guy” or the “fuck boy” because sometimes during these parties I may make out with 1-2 girls and sometimes girls ask who I am (maybe it’s cause there drunk I get these make outs) and then nothing happens after.

This tells me that you're correct in stating that your looks aren't the limiting factor. It also tells me you don't have a plan for once the makeout happens. Especially with nightgame, you need to have the progression lined up. The girl shouldn't have to do any of the work, you should gently lead her through to the progression until you fuck her brains out.

For example, if you can tell the girl is into you enough where she'll make out with you, you need to have an exit strategy to get her back to your place. What is your logistical situation like? Are you going to places where your pad is close by so you can bounce as it gets closer to last call?

For example, if I start making out with a chick on the dance floor I'll usually keep it brief so I'm not slobbering all over her, I'll dance for a little bit longer and then lead her off the floor to talk over a drink. After I suss out her life story for about 15 minutes, I'll drop some bait about having a sweet beachfront pad, and something I want to show her (depends on the girl, it could be weed, a bottle of wine, my gun collection, etc).

Then, I'll uber us both home, lead her in and then escalate from there. If she comes back to your place, she's already mentally acknowledged you are going to be fucking her.

The whole point of this is I want to get the girl into a controlled environment as quickly as possible to reduce the variables that will prevent me from banging her. Time, her friends, her ASD, and too much booze will all be working against you. You need her in a place where you can mitigate those.

Quote: (01-15-2019 05:18 PM)Commando Legend Wrote:  

I may have approached little as 100-120 girls so far during these night club/party game because of my anxiety and I am usually extrovert.

You'll need to put in more numbers than that. Especially when you're new, you'll get 1 lay for every 50 approaches or so. However that's with a large sample size. You may go 100, or even 150 approaches without getting a lay. Persistence makes the difference, and your results will even out over time.

Quote: (01-15-2019 05:18 PM)Commando Legend Wrote:  

My closest success with a girl was actually at a party that I kissed and then I started msging her and after a few conversation it just feels obvious that she didn’t like me, because she started disqualifying herself and my text game is awful aswell.

There's no such thing as text game. Your phone is only for scheduling dates. You can't build attraction over the phone. She gave you her number because she thought you were interested and would ask her out, which you didn't do, and of course her interest waned after that.

Strike when the moment is hot. Once you grab that number, banter briefly, and then start making moves to set up the date.

For example, I grabbed a number from this British chick the other day. Teased her for a bit about her cutesy accent, and then asked if she'd come help me work on my accent for when I go back to London.

Took her out for drinks, brought her back to my place, and had my way with her. I just went back and counted how many texts we exchanged. 14 total messages. Less is more with text game.

Quote: (01-15-2019 05:18 PM)Commando Legend Wrote:  

met her at another party and made out with her again and my friends tells me that she’s obvious into you, then went on a date and felt it was ok.

Did you sexually escalate on this date at all? Were you touching on her, and letting her do most of the talking?

Quote: (01-15-2019 05:18 PM)Commando Legend Wrote:  

But she ended up meeting another guy at another party and I felt devistated.

You'll get used to it, it happens all the time. He probably took immediate action and didn't eff around.

Quote: (01-15-2019 05:18 PM)Commando Legend Wrote:  

Don’t think it’s my looks because girls usually say I am handsome, cute or whatever but they do say I am weird lol.....

If you're getting makeouts with terrible game, then your looks aren't the problem as said before. I was bagging girls even with absolutely abysmal game. You will be able to improve your results.

Quote: (01-15-2019 05:18 PM)Commando Legend Wrote:  

glad my game sucks soI can get better. I usually just be myself and bring humor/dominate personality into the table but it isn’t working some reason.

It'll work, you're just not using it in the right way. When you're first meeting women, you only need to subtly imply dominance. Based on the women thinking your a fuckboy, you're probably being too aggressive from the get-go, and then fading down the stretch. Part of being able to land a woman and take her through the sexual progression is having a congruent personality.

For example, if you're super forward at the party and making out with her, but then spend days texting back and forth without making a date, the girl will know you're full of shit.

The same thing is true with humor. If a girl is into you, she'll laugh at your dumb jokes. You don't have to be a stand up comedian. They can tell when you're trying to hard. I used to have trouble with this too, and what made the difference for me was talking to them like I'd talk to my little sister. One part dismissive, a half part sardonic, and two parts charming. Don't take yourself too seriously.

For instance, the British chick I was talking about kept remarking about how I must use the moves I put on her on all the other girls (what she really meant was "wow, your game is good, please lie to me and tell me you're not using this on other women so my ASD doesn't go through the roof").

Rather than answering that straight on and denying I'm seeing other women, I literally put a move on her (I spun her like you do in swing dancing) and then caught her with a shit eating grin and said "...practice for you", to which she laughed.

In summary, you're going to need to systematically relearn game. Spend some time reading around the forums here. Here's the steps I would take:

1: Read the entire Black Man Game Options thread. Take notes, and listen to the podcasts. I would outline specific techniques presented within that you feel are congruent with your personality. Keep lurking around here, and read as much as you can. I overhauled my game over the course of about a year or so of study, practice, and more study.

1a: Learn about escalation and the escalation process. If you're doing night game, you should be focusing on SNL (same night lays). It's a lot easier to keep a woman around once you've fucked her brains out. Plus, the more women you lay, the easier it gets to lay other women.

2: If you're not lifting, you need to get on Starting Strength.

3: Keep approaching. If you really want to be successful, make it a goal to approach 10 women a day. Keep a log of your approaches. What went well. What didn't. You can even start a thread here for the rest of us to offer advice.

4: Read Bang. Take notes. Read it again. Review notes. Return to step 3.

5: Ask questions in established threads. Right now, you need to start from square one and learn the fundamentals. Use your fundamentals to better approach.

Good luck. Hopefully other guys will chime in and give you even more advice.
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#6

No girls seems interested?

That is the most detailed post. Thank you!

How do you go into parties or clubs or whatever in a good mindset. I rarely go in with good mindset I always have a bad mindset like “I am gonna suck” or when I talk to a girl “this girl probably isn’t going to like me” then I get sad.
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#7

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Quote: (01-15-2019 08:23 PM)Commando Legend Wrote:  

That is the most detailed post. Thank you!

How do you go into parties or clubs or whatever in a good mindset. I rarely go in with good mindset I always have a bad mindset like “I am gonna suck” or when I talk to a girl “this girl probably isn’t going to like me” then I get sad.

Don't go in with the intention that it's all about women. It's not. I know it's hard, but you have to separate your success with women with how you feel about your life overall. Pussy is not the number 1 in life, nor should it ever be.

Go in to have a good time with your buddies. Once you're having a good time, then start talking to the women.

People always say "fake it till you make it" but it has been my observation that real confidence cannot be faked. You have to put in the sweat equity and grind out successes.

It's like a snowball. Your success will come slowly at first, but as you progress it will come exponentially thereafter.
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#8

No girls seems interested?

How old are you and do you live with your parents?

You just need to stick to one girl thats into you and get her back to yours.
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#9

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Quote: (01-16-2019 04:29 AM)Kangaroo Wrote:  

How old are you and do you live with your parents?

You just need to stick to one girl thats into you and get her back to yours.

I am 20 years old and yes.
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#10

No girls seems interested?

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#11

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Case in point in the early 2000's Calvin Harris was skinny and unstylish.

By 2015 he is ripped, hair now blond, and a model for calvin kline underwear and banged Taylor Swift and Rita Ora. That is no accident
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#12

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Personally i think you're on the right path and as described above lacking a few elements to your game.
1. 150 touches isn't alarming, but its nice that you reflect on your strategy/numbers - just don't let it rule your game just yet - switch it up and try neutral openers too.
2. borrow a friends flat / add online game / or take week in Ibiza or Sunny beach -hell even skiing in a big place and change up the scene.
3. wax on wax off ..you learn it by doing it [Image: biggrin.gif]. we can give you loads of advice -but your best advisor is YOURSELF -trust yourself
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