[ShuaiGe]

(01-06-2019 01:57 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  

Watch both of these if you believe that way

Realize these are Gen Z'ers all around 18-23

Of course this may be biased but even in my own life, I've noticed these EXACT same results. All my friends have been cheated on and all the girls I've known have either cheated or thought about it.

Tinder is dying because of tinder not because of a shift in views, tinder has become P2P and just like P2P in video games, people HATE THAT. Tinder is getting harder and harder for guys and guys are becoming Incels not super smoother PUA's.

They're more conservative because their memes are edgier and because they aren't as Liberal as before. They're still full of SJW's and stupid feminist.

What women do and men do, we could go on all day about this topic, but I know for damn sure that people care about their reputation and I doubt that the videos posted are authentic, really fucking doubt it, how many women are going to go on video in one night and say they did something considered by most of society to be shameful, let some dude but his arms around all of them, and in front of their friends? Money was involved, that's my guess.

[Donfitz007]

His might not be authentic but I have done numerous little "interviews" like this and had similar results. I usually keep it light. Recently I've done a couple of them solo and had decent results. He has way more confidence and look better than I do at the moment so I can believe these COULD be authentic.



HOWEVER, even if they weren't authentic, lets be honest, many guys on this forum have heardwomen say things along these lines.

[eradicator]

Also if he talks to 100 girls in a night out and only the ten biggest drunk whores get on tape and the rest are edited out, I can see how that would be authentic.

[Fortis]

Not every girl is some innocent princess who just got tricked by a bad bad player. So many girls ask me shit like "how many girls are chasing you these days?" and still come to my spot for dick. They know what the game is and choose this for themselves.

Better me than some other dude.

[Pride male]

I have never met a monogamous woman.

[BaatumMania]

(01-09-2019 06:09 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

I have never met a monogamous woman.

They're not so uncommon in Eastern Europe and East Asia where "leftover women" starts as early as the mid-20s. But I suppose you are right in a sense that those women were probably self-polyandrous until becoming too old for most local guys.

[EndsExpect]

(01-06-2019 11:06 AM)TIOT12 Wrote:  

s men who are thinking not just about the here and now but about the future and what is best for them and their societies, how do you good gents think on these issues? What is your philosophy in these areas?

I'm not going to dump on you for asking the question... but it seems silly to me. We don't make the culture, we just find ways to thrive in it.

It's like an Alaskan Grizzly snatching salmon from the river wondering if the salmon are there because of him. No, they are going to be swimming up that river no matter what... your choice is to either be the grizzly with a full belly or the grizzly dying of starvation.

[CynicalContrarian]

Another take.
The 1920's were supposedly a somewhat hedonistic time. Hence the nickname "Roaring 20's".
Put it down to desperation or desperate times, yet there's plenty to insinuate the "good girls" of the 1940's were bonking every GI that crossed their paths.
Throw in the free hippy "love" of the 60's & the swingin' 70's along with 80's greed.

Fair to say in the last one hundred years. A decade of chaste / 'Leave it to Beaver' wholesomeness is more an outlier than the norm...

[Kid Twist]

Of course "we" are part of the problem, but not the (main) problem ...

The sad truth in the west is that men allowed things to get this way, but in a sense, any time affluence comes, on average at a population level as well, decline comes.

[Nater]

Great discussion.

Most people here are making the best of a bad situation. I don’t think there is one reason that makes a women a slut but rather a combination of things. Fundamentally, women were given more power because they are the best consumers. Many reasons were cited in this thread. Modern culture (movies, songs…), media, absentee fathers are just other reasons that can turn a “good” girl into a slut. I also believe that another reason behind the making of sluts is a guy who takes out a girls virginity. She will most likely cheat on her husband when she finds a guy that reminds her of her first guy…

Case in point;

(07-29-2018 09:43 PM)Nater Wrote:  

Last Tuesday I went to a park with a friend of mine there was a bit of music in the background and some stands selling alcohol. As we sat down in a bench, I saw this blonde momma wearing a nice black dress and hoops. I ask my friend if he wants to go speak to her, he says no. I go up and walk close to her to light my cigarette. I make a comment about her earphone kit and tease her. Then, we talked a bit and she tells me that she's waiting for a friend. I switch back the conversation and we talk some more, I start touching her in the arm and she responds well. A few minutes later, her friend shows up, he's not in great shape and geeky. I take her number and text her later. The day after, I text her to come to my flat. At 10pm, she's at my place we're drinking rosee and dancing reggaetton. An hour later, I'm pulling her hair and spanking her ass, she enjoys it...
SNIP

Next time we meet, after a couple of glasses of wine she tells me that my accent and my lingo reminded her of a "friend" that she met a long time ago… I would bet my left nut that the “friend” in question had taken her virginity.

I also find that the more “successful” I get in bedding women, the less I am attracted to good girls in general. I find it hard to connect with them. I remember this girl in my social circle, I could sense that she was clearly not interested even though I didn’t know why. Back then, I was interested in her because of my lack of options… After months of practise and putting myself out there. We started meeting regularly at a friends over the summer… Over the course of a few night outs, get togethers her attitude had completely changed towards me, she would ask me now to bring her back home. Tells me how we should hang out more blah blah… She’s giggling at my jokes… I’d tease her, her eyes would light up… The thing is, I wasn’t interested in her as I was getting better out there. I found her boring and not good looking now… She was a “good” girl and most probably a virgin back then.

I’d overlooked her based on her looks and the fact that I found her boring. Granted, we’re all automatically attracted to feminine traits and behaviour but is that how we should rate a woman? Probably not, but that is what most of the game literature emphasizes on. We all know that women are biologically programmed to be attracted to men who display psychopathic traits. I’ve learned now to display those traits in appropriate situations, but I know that I won’t turn myself into a complete psychopath 24/7 for the sole purpose of banging more chicks.

[Jetset]

This is a lot of meditation on something that isn't worth meditating on.

If she can be made into a slut, somebody's going to make her into a slut. The "times" just indicate whether she'll let anybody find out.

[Pride male]

More like slut enablers.

[questor70]

(01-06-2019 01:23 PM)TIOT12 Wrote:  

It would seem under this circumstance that the validation benefits for women would be declining.

Seems like wishful thinking. I would need to see some compelling online chatter from women to confirm that they are leaving Tinder in meaningful numbers. I think since women have always chased the top tier that the bottom tier of men Thanos-snapping themselves won't impact women that much.

[tomzestatlu]

There were girls, that I felt really bad about. But at the end, if not me, somebody else would do that.

[Buddydowrongright2]

[MichaelWitcoff]

At some point in your journey, you may realize that you're causing, creating, exacerbating, and enabling the exact same social and cultural problems that you're otherwise complaining and upset about. Those pieces don't always click into place overnight...but once they do, you will have a choice to make: live in hypocrisy, or pursue virtue.

[Kid Twist]

(01-10-2019 07:55 AM)Nater Wrote:  

I also find that the more “successful” I get in bedding women, the less I am attracted to good girls in general. I find it hard to connect with them.

This is great insight. RVFers must be careful that they aren't chasing the dragon, or the path back becomes very difficult.

[SaintLaurentJake]

(01-06-2019 01:57 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  

Watch both of these if you believe that way

Realize these are Gen Z'ers all around 18-23

Of course this may be biased but even in my own life, I've noticed these EXACT same results. All my friends have been cheated on and all the girls I've known have either cheated or thought about it.

Tinder is dying because of tinder not because of a shift in views, tinder has become P2P and just like P2P in video games, people HATE THAT. Tinder is getting harder and harder for guys and guys are becoming Incels not super smoother PUA's.

They're more conservative because their memes are edgier and because they aren't as Liberal as before. They're still full of SJW's and stupid feminist.

Drunk American college girls might be the sluttiest on the planet. Definitely not LTR material. Hence why many people are starting to look elsewhere.

[Donfitz007]

That's the thing, most women around the age we find attractive (18-28) are drunk sluts. They enjoy their lives and expect to settle down. You might meet her at a nice book store, or at walmart but she's going to a club that weekend.

They're living life, and drunk people are usually the most honest people around.