[GranMarnier]

Longer video but worth the watch. 5G details start around 20:00 mark.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

But guys think of no more buffering.

[Mr. D]

Might as well invest in tinfoil and lead lining...

[DamienCasanova]

(01-11-2019 09:26 AM)Mr. D Wrote:  

Might as well invest in tinfoil and lead lining...

Like Anonymous Conservative says

"I am more curious if you could rig the multiple emitter’s emissions , both terrestrial and satellite, to create a “node” of constructively interfering waves in a specific spot in somebody’s house, like in their bed, while they sleep at night. I will bet it was already worked out, and if it wasn’t somebody is looking at it right now."

[hedonist]

This was an interesting case with Breast Cancer in Australia
https://www.smh.com.au/national/breast-c...9-31o.html

The ABC says further tests on its Brisbane studios shed no light on the breast cancer cluster which forced their abandonment.

ABC staff left the ageing site at Toowong, in the city's inner-west, shortly before Christmas last year after an independent panel of experts headed by Professor Bruce Armstrong found the breast cancer rate there was up to 11 times higher than among the general working community.

Twelve women who worked at the riverside Toowong office have been diagnosed with breast cancer in the past 11 years, including eight who work in the newsroom.

ABC managing director Mark Scott said the panel had delivered a further report following testing of exposure to power-frequency magnetic fields in the ABC TV building at Toowong.

Mr Scott said the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency (ARPANSA) had found there was little to link it to any greater health risk than other sites.
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"We conclude from these comparisons that exposure to low frequency electromagnetic fields, including extremely low power frequency fields (ELF), of staff working in the TV building at Toowong is very unlikely to have been materially different from what is common in residences and probably workplaces in Australia," the report said.

[RatInTheWoods]

[heavy]

(01-10-2019 09:39 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

...
And that's just Jeb Bush low-energy photons in the visible range or maybe the ultraviolet range.
...

[BortimusPrime]

(01-11-2019 02:58 AM)Luther Wrote:  

“On the local news some dumb bitch managed to give herself a third degree burn falling asleep with the AC adapter from her phone sitting on her arm. How you don't wake up to something like that is beyond me.”

BortimusPrime, I once came home from work, threw some wood on a fire in a wood stove and laid down on the floor in front of it. I immediately fell asleep. My torso was right in front of the stove and when I woke up I found that my metal button on my jeans had heated up so hot that it burned a little circle into my abdomen. I didn’t wake up either.

This girl burned herself down to the adipose tissue though, the doctor had to basically just sew her skin back together from the edges of the burn.

[questor70]

"What I want to know is why telecoms are investing massively into this."

The same reason they invested in 4G, or 3G before that, or 2G. People want more speed from their primary communication device, which is now smart-phones rather than desktops or laptops. But wireless tech has always lagged behind wires.

[Easy_C]

(01-11-2019 08:40 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

"What I want to know is why telecoms are investing massively into this."

The same reason they invested in 4G, or 3G before that, or 2G. People want more speed from their primary communication device, which is now smart-phones rather than desktops or laptops. But wireless tech has always lagged behind wires.

But are they? 4G LTE is more than fast enough to stream Youtube videos when it is working at full coverage. That's about all you need because you simply can't consume content any faster than that. The limitation is usually the phone at that point.

[Avoy]

Admittedly, I'm a little concerned about this (and air pollution) as well. I've realized my quality of sleep is majorly impacted by living in a big city. The condo tower I'm currently living in shows 25+ Wi-Fi access points that I can connect to and who knows how many cell towers are nearby in this tech-heavy city. The difference between my quality of sleep here versus when I stay in a low-tech country like Laos is significant. I sleep like a baby over there and feel a general calm that's hard to describe -- something similar to how you feel when you go out a ways for a camping trip.

[Repo]

(01-11-2019 09:00 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

(01-11-2019 08:40 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

"What I want to know is why telecoms are investing massively into this."

The same reason they invested in 4G, or 3G before that, or 2G. People want more speed from their primary communication device, which is now smart-phones rather than desktops or laptops. But wireless tech has always lagged behind wires.

But are they? 4G LTE is more than fast enough to stream Youtube videos when it is working at full coverage. That's about all you need because you simply can't consume content any faster than that. The limitation is usually the phone at that point.

4g LTE isnt fast enough to consume 4k (which will soon be obsolete). Wether for movies, higher definition video calls, higher definition audio, or even for work related things, there are tons of uses for faster speed.

[Foolsgo1d]

(01-12-2019 12:23 AM)Avoy Wrote:  

Admittedly, I'm a little concerned about this (and air pollution) as well. I've realized my quality of sleep is majorly impacted by living in a big city. The condo tower I'm currently living in shows 25+ Wi-Fi access points that I can connect to and who knows how many cell towers are nearby in this tech-heavy city. The difference between my quality of sleep here versus when I stay in a low-tech country like Laos is significant. I sleep like a baby over there and feel a general calm that's hard to describe -- something similar to how you feel when you go out a ways for a camping trip.

Wouldn't there be other factors outside of wifi? Being in a densely populated area can be stressful and leads you to be switched on more than normal. Camping requires a lot more energy than simply being awake and working unless you do manual labour.

[Mage]

I don't even understand why is this 5G thing needed. Isn't our internet already lighting fast? I can download a movie wireless in under a minute, I can speak with another person who is on another side of the planet with no lag in real time and send pics.

Why do we need to have this super speed without proper safety checks?

Maybe there is no need for concern - but it seems telecom companies are bad at addressing this. They are so arrogant by promoting this without answers to concerns, only answers being calling everyone concerned a conspiracy theorist, equating them to a flat earth believer?

Sooner or later this company unaccountably towards people's concerns is poised to lead to a release of technology that will result in global health tragedy, will it be 5G or something else, we will not know until after it is too late.

(01-12-2019 09:12 AM)Repo Wrote:  

4g LTE isnt fast enough to consume 4k (which will soon be obsolete). Wether for movies, higher definition video calls, higher definition audio, or even for work related things, there are tons of uses for faster speed.

When a person uses a word - obsolete - then you know he is brainwashed.

It's so funny when someone says that 4k is obsolete when most people still use 720 or 1080. Only techno-soy-homos who's life goal is to be at the top consumerism generation say and think like that.

Is bow and arrows obsolete? Well yeah modern military uses machine guns and even more modern tech, but guess what - you can still kill a person with a bow and arrows. All that talk about it being obsolete would fade out once you got one with adequate draw-strength pointed at you. You will not shit talk it being obsolete. You will not shit talk even kitchen knife being obsolete if you get attacked by it.

Is 720, 1080 or 4k obsolete? As long as it can convey the message intended on that video it is not.

I know some selfmade company directors - young about 30-40 years old who still use dumb-phones. They have soyboys with latest iphones and Samsung Galaxies working for them, making fun about older people using phones with physical buttons, until they see their boss still is using one.

Stupid consumerist fools. Nothing is obsolete as long as it works. Being alienated from simple tech, that is easily maintained and repaired and is effective and cheap and forcing endless useless gadgets on you is how you get trapped in consumerism and inability to exist outside of matrix.

[Avoy]

(01-12-2019 09:29 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

(01-12-2019 12:23 AM)Avoy Wrote:  

Admittedly, I'm a little concerned about this (and air pollution) as well. I've realized my quality of sleep is majorly impacted by living in a big city. The condo tower I'm currently living in shows 25+ Wi-Fi access points that I can connect to and who knows how many cell towers are nearby in this tech-heavy city. The difference between my quality of sleep here versus when I stay in a low-tech country like Laos is significant. I sleep like a baby over there and feel a general calm that's hard to describe -- something similar to how you feel when you go out a ways for a camping trip.

Wouldn't there be other factors outside of wifi? Being in a densely populated area can be stressful and leads you to be switched on more than normal. Camping requires a lot more energy than simply being awake and working unless you do manual labour.

I think there's something to it. I've flown to Vientiane, the capital of Laos, several times this past year from Bangkok. It's about an hour flight away. And every time I touch down there's an immediate detox feeling. I also thought maybe it was because there was less noise and people running around, but my sleep quality and general state of being is noticeably better every time I visit for a few days. I comment on this to my friends every time. That's why I say it's hard to explain. But you get this sense of well-being and calmness indoors or outdoors even in the city center where I usually stay.

Factors in Vientiane's favor:
- Low population for a city capital
- Street noise is nearly non-existent, to the point of boring
- Far cleaner air than Bangkok
- Low-tech: many own smartphones, but few have computers or Wi-Fi at home -- there are only a few cell providers and high-speed internet is a luxury even in hotels

[Avoy]

I stumbled on this video a couple months ago. You can take it or leave it, but I thought it was pretty good. Talks about the harmful affects of Wi-Fi, Smart Meters, 4G, 5G and the FCC's role in all this.

Also available on BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/video/wbDwSikPfOBV/

[debeguiled]

(01-11-2019 08:25 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

But guys think of no more buffering.

[questor70]

(01-11-2019 09:00 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  

4G LTE is more than fast enough to stream Youtube videos when it is working at full coverage. That's about all you need because you simply can't consume content any faster than that.

The satellite 5G being talked about in this thread would really be more for household use in remote areas. So you're talking about sharing that bandwidth across multiple devices.

[CynicalContrarian]

Just asked Nancy Pelosi.

We get to find out about the health costs after the full implementation...

[Avoy]

Curious: Am I the only one who walks around with his outdated phone in Airplane Mode? I use my smartphone mainly for messaging and getting information. Never been a fan of always being available. I check and respond to messages on my timetable. And I rarely ever make or take phone calls. Side benefit: no location tracking or cell radiation while the phone sits in your pant pocket (as far as I'm aware) and you can still use it to quickly check the time and receive any reminders or alarms (so better than turning the phone completely off).

[durangotang]

I suppose you could construct a house with special considerations, and in the process of construction make it a faraday cage, perhaps with a motorized detachable antenna array on top for coverage when you needed it. Have the house wired for Internet so you aren't subject to wifi. While you are doing so, you could also ground the flooring so that the schumann resonance gets through. You'd probably sleep like a baby. My $0.02 if you had the cash.

[Garuda]

People began wondering when Wifi was installed in schools.

Several years ago, a book called An Electronic Silent Spring was published. It made claims like new electromagnetic fields like 4G/5G interfered with living things' sense of direction and mice become sterile after being exposed to EMR for five generations. It also cited some European studies that cancer risks increased greatly when cell phone use did as well.

The companies are pushing for it because it will force everyone to buy a new phone. Basically it's just a money grab.

[SHDAD75]

It's 2019, and I still don't have a cell/smart phone. I plan to use wired as long as possible. Oh, and BTW, I am typing this using Windows ME and Pentium III.

[Avoy]

Interesting post in the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/opini...-this.html

Quote:

...Mr. Jobs envisioned a simpler and more constrained iPhone experience than the one we actually have over a decade later. For example, he doesn’t focus much on apps. When the iPhone was first introduced there was no App Store, and this was by design. As Andy Grignon, an original member of the iPhone team, told me when I was researching this topic, Mr. Jobs didn’t trust third-party developers to offer the same level of aesthetically pleasing and stable experiences that Apple programmers could produce. He was convinced that the phone’s carefully designed native features were enough. It was “an iPod that made phone calls,” Mr. Grignon said to me.

Mr. Jobs seemed to understand the iPhone as something that would help us with a small number of activities — listening to music, placing calls, generating directions. He didn’t seek to radically change the rhythm of users’ daily lives. He simply wanted to take experiences we already found important and make them better.

The minimalist vision for the iPhone he offered in 2007 is unrecognizable today — and that’s a shame.

[...]

Practically speaking, to be a minimalist smartphone user means that you deploy this device for a small number of features that do things you value (and that the phone does particularly well), and then outside of these activities, put it away. This approach dethrones this gadget from a position of constant companion down to a luxury object, like a fancy bike or a high-end blender, that gives you great pleasure when you use it but doesn’t dominate your entire day.

I guess I'm a minimalist smartphone user (see my previous comment).

[vanishing_point]

Millimeter waves were invented in Israel to be used as DEW (directed-energy weapon).

5G is the optimal millimeter wave.

Israel is not getting 5G.