[Joga Bonito]

(12-04-2012 11:11 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Perhaps echoing Roosh's thread in the game forum about preferring light skin women, I have to admit, I almost never like dark skinned black women. Even though I would be considered dark skin myself. I feel a bit ashamed to say that, but it's just true. I pretty much am only attracted to caramel or light complexioned black women, especially if they have that long wavy mulatta-type hair. Sometimes I will see African dark black women that I think are sexy, but that's just not what I want to be perfectly honest. Sometimes I really do think the male preference for fairer women is genetic. I prefer them and I can't even really explain why. I just do.

What are you thoughts on that issue?

As a dark guy myself, I used to think like you do Speakeasy(but have since come around regarding dark women), so I can definitely understand where you are coming from. I think that preference more or less comes from social conditioning rather than than any intrinsic or genetic predisposition. Think about it, from the time we were young dark women have never really been featured prominently in media or in magazines like SI. If they are featured they are usually lighter and have very eurocentric features(think Beyonce and Halle Berry). Hell, on many of the urban hip hop model magazines mixed, Latin, or light skinned black women definitely get more face time over the dark ones.

Ultimately, when you combine media, popular music(featuring lighter women in lyrics and music alike), and everybody in your environment embracing the idea that lighter women are more attractive, it is only naturally that you subconsciously subscribe to the groupthink and start to think so yourself.

[Prufrock]

(12-05-2012 02:48 AM)iWin Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 11:11 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

Perhaps echoing Roosh's thread in the game forum about preferring light skin women, I have to admit, I almost never like dark skinned black women. Even though I would be considered dark skin myself. I feel a bit ashamed to say that, but it's just true. I pretty much am only attracted to caramel or light complexioned black women, especially if they have that long wavy mulatta-type hair. Sometimes I will see African dark black women that I think are sexy, but that's just not what I want to be perfectly honest. Sometimes I really do think the male preference for fairer women is genetic. I prefer them and I can't even really explain why. I just do.

What are you thoughts on that issue?

As a dark guy myself, I used to think like you do Speakeasy(but have since come around regarding dark women), so I can definitely understand where you are coming from. I think that preference more or less comes from social conditioning rather than than any intrinsic or genetic predisposition. Think about it, from the time we were young dark women have never really been featured prominently in media or in magazines like SI. If they are featured they are usually lighter and have very eurocentric features(think Beyonce and Halle Berry). Hell, on many of the urban hip hop model magazines mixed, Latin, or light skinned black women definitely get more face time over the dark ones.

Ultimately, when you combine media, popular music(featuring lighter women in lyrics and music alike), and everybody in your environment embracing the idea that lighter women are more attractive, it is only naturally that you subconsciously subscribe to the groupthink and start to think so yourself.

I'm an Italian American guy who loves dark skinned black women (there are many of us!) My great grandparents were from the same province in Italy that Robert De Niro's great grandparents are from - perhaps there's something in the water?

As iWin pointed out, lighter skinned black women (especially ones with caucasian features like Halle Berry or Alicia Keys) are very much pedestalized, maybe even more than than blonde haired, blued eyed white women in some circles. When I think of prominent examples in the MSM or popular culture of black women on the other side of the Brown Paper Bag Test, most of them look closer to Precious than they do Oluchi Onweagba:



BTW - Oluchi is married to an Italian guy.

And speaking from personal experience, darker skinned black women are generally very friendly and receptive to me, much more than the lighter skinned girls. Possibly this creates a type of positive feedback loop for me which helps explain why I prefer the darker skinned girls.

[speakeasy]

^^^ I've noticed that there's a lot of Italian guys that like black women. The ones in Italy in particular. Onweagba is attractive, but I'd still take Alicia Keys over her any day.

[Moma]

Regarding Speakeasy's take, maybe it's a case of opposites attract. I think social conditioning plays a part as lighter skinned lizards are pushed forward to the public face in the Western hemisphere.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Onweagba is ... wow... just wow.

[Giovonny]

(12-04-2012 11:11 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I would be considered dark skin myself. I feel a bit ashamed to say that,

As a latino/white man who has grown up around alot of black people, I have to say...

Many black people have an "inferiority complex". They hate themselves for being black. I don't like this.

I think its all social conditioning. You have been taught to hate yourself. You have been programmed to believe you are less beautiful, less capable, more violent, etc, etc. This is all bullshit.

The slave maters have brainwashed you. Time to wake up!!!

They are making money from your suffering. Every time a black person goes to jail, its more money and business for the lawyers, judges, clerks, jail staff, prison officials, cops, etc.

Making blacks hate themselves is big business. And they are making billions!!

[kosko]

Hell I wish I was darker. I don't like my North American skin, and I love when my skin is shiny and dark as hell in the Summer. Dark is beautiful.

Italians I believe have spent time around Eritrean and Ethiopian people. There are many in Italy and maybe that has something to do with Italians being cool with Dark skinned women?

As for my personal tastes I actually prefer darker black women as I like the even and nice skin, it hides a lady's flaw and you never notice a wrinkle or blemish on the girls with that deep dark skin. Redbones and light skinned black girls are hot but overrated as hell as they can look beat as shit when they age.

In regards to Social Conditioning. It is 100% real. Especially in America. African Americans have been deceived into thinking life is better for them now overall, while still being force fed the notion that they are lesser aesthetically then regular folk.

How I know there is blatant and strategic hating and brainwashing going on in the USA is not even from the Black Experience - But from the Asian-American Experience. look how many Asian Americans they are in America, many with access to a lot of wealth and still popular culture ignores them. They will blindly support they own financially and yet Mainstream Culture does not want to (or does not know how) to tap into this sleeping market. Why aren't Asian Women in American help up on the levels of White women or Bleached and Starched Black women? This is how I know there is bullshit swimming around the big Media companies because they are letting their ignorance and prejudice get in the way of windfall profits.

I still believe though as long as you aren't to deep into the brainwashing every brother has that fever in them. For the longest time I never fucked with West African girls I didn't find them hot as a kid, they all looked beat when we where teens but as we started getting older I realized I ain't like these broads because I was exposed to the same ones. I remember we had a gathering and a whole bunch of Nigerian girls from Winnipeg, Vancouver, etc came through. Yo.... I was foaming at the mouth. I literally could not contain myself. These girls were hot, feminine and not on some kid bullshit like the ones I grew up with. So then I realized that I always like them it was just that feeling was suppressed.

I always say that the hunger and fever I get for a black female is unlike anything else, I can't get that hunger for any other type of women but it does not come up often that is the thing. But I ditched the notion of having a preference to white girls or light skinned girls a long time ago. Toronto has helped as even though it is a wasteland and hard to get laid here you notice hot women from all over the globe, each nook and cranny is represented here and it changes your perceptions, delusions, and brainwashing to what is attractive in regards to race.

African-American Men have it the worst though. As there has been a lot of Social Nonconducting and then when you break through that BS your met with a sub-standard pool of Black females to choose from. Even to the fact that I think simply because of the reach of American/Western culture African-American females are put on that pedastool also.

Alicia Keys is beat. Why the hell is she lauded as hot feline when she looks no better then a ratchet gutter girl from the hood.

Beyonce? Yes she's hot but she is hot hottest average girl on earth. You still find hotter girls are a high-end Socialite party.

[Timoteo]

Media definitely perpetuates the belief that dark = ugly. Vogue Magazine, which has published for over 120 years I believe, has only had 4 people of color on its cover (American issue). Only Oprah Winfrey, Halle Berry, Jennifer Hudson, and of all people, LeBron James (he shared a cover with Giselle Bundchen, and it was very controversial). You have to wonder, in a country as diverse as the US, why less than a handful of people of color managed to get this honor. Simple. Publishers will tell you that in this particular market in the US (adult women's fashion), blacks on the cover don't sell. That's always been the case. Business is business, so they continually give the reader what they want and what will sell. I was watching a documentary about former supermodels, and how they've adjusted to getting older. One talked about this, because she was considered and "exotic" when she was modeling, and struggled to get covers. She ended up becoming an editor herself, and she was told by others at the magazine that in her era (50s, 60s) if they put someone black on the cover, people would cancel subscriptions. Real talk. Unfortunately, that still holds true for certain demographics.

In Europe, they regularly put women of color on the cover of Vogue. A few years ago, they put out an ALL BLACK issue, with five different women on the front cover, and it folded out to feature the other 4 women (Liya Kebede was on one, Naomi Campbell was on another - I grabbed the one with Liya). Most of the ads and the models inside the issue were also black, the reverse of what you usually see. The problem was the issue was a struggle to find. Even the major news/magazine stores didn't carry it, even though there was some mainstream media exposure regarding the issue. The demand for the issue in major urban areas like NYC was huge. I finally found a small store that carried it, and he had a couple of issues in the window so those walking by would know he had it (very smart). I asked him why it was so hard to find it, and he said it was a special issue, so it had to be specifically requested. Tell me...why didn't more newstands and magazine stores order this issue? And I asked each place specifically if they had it, and all said NO. Even in a city (NYC) that has plenty of black folks that would buy it, they STILL didn't order it.

[jariel]

(12-05-2012 03:15 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

As a latino/white man who has grown up around alot of black people, I have to say...

Many black people have an "inferiority complex". They hate themselves for being black. I don't like this.

I think its all social conditioning. You have been taught to hate yourself. You have been programmed to believe you are less beautiful, less capable, more violent, etc, etc. This is all bullshit.

The slave maters have brainwashed you. Time to wake up!!!

They are making money from your suffering. Every time a black person goes to jail, its more money and business for the lawyers, judges, clerks, jail staff, prison officials, cops, etc.

Making blacks hate themselves is big business. And they are making billions!!

Everything but your first sentence sounds like something I've been saying on this board for the longest.

[jariel]

(12-05-2012 04:15 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

She ended up becoming an editor herself, and she was told by others at the magazine that in her era (50s, 60s) if they put someone black on the cover, people would cancel subscriptions. Real talk. Unfortunately, that still holds true for certain demographics.

One of the many reasons I've never bought into Christianity is that those who purport to believe/practice it are the same who are running around hating those who are also "God's children".

There must be something seriously wrong in the mind of someone who has a disdain for someone because of their race, skin tone, or something else they had no control over and isn't inherently wrong.

These same people who believe in Heaven and Hell must resign themselves to where they are most likely going, and many of these people are purported Christians, but they're living so far from what has been deemed as God's image that it is mindblowing.

The biggest problem Blacks have made has been to not reframe the societies they live in and the people who run them and in the process make a concerted effort to disconnect themselves from them. Instead, they've fought so hard for social integration, that White Supremacy has taken an even stronger hold and it's developed to the point where it's been so finely refined, that people have a hard time recognizing it even though it's in their faces on a daily basis -- furthermore, many in the white proletariat actually believe that it no longer exists.

If you look at other groups of ethnic people who have come to this country, they do everything possible to keep themselves away from white supremacy because they don't want it rampant in their schools, neighborhoods, and homes, they also want to maintain their own culture and language as much as possible. As a result, they rely on making money off each other and building families with each other without a care in the world to being accepted by those who really don't like them. They know and understand this because the same people who proudly talk about how their families came through Ellis Island at the turn of the 20th century, are the same people who want this government to do everything from keeping any new waves of immigrants out, mostly brown and black people.

[Giovonny]

(12-05-2012 04:19 PM)jariel Wrote:  

Everything but your first sentence sounds like something I've been saying on this board for the longest.

I know, you have been saying this for a while.

Sometimes, I think black people need to hear it from a non black person.

[speakeasy]

(12-05-2012 03:21 PM)kosko Wrote:  

Alicia Keys is beat. Why the hell is she lauded as hot feline when she looks no better then a ratchet gutter girl from the hood.

Beat??!

[sheesh]

Black woman, when hot = sex goddess.

Now where do I meet women like this one, e.g. ?

http://www.xvideos.com/video264779/presi...eases_wife

Does anyone know which African country would be best for this type of woman ? I don't like the big Momma type black woman.

[Moma]

(12-05-2012 07:17 PM)sheesh Wrote:  

Black woman, when hot = sex goddess.

Now where do I meet women like this one, e.g. ?

http://www.xvideos.com/video264779/presi...eases_wife

Does anyone know which African country would be best for this type of woman ? I don't like the big Momma type black woman.

I'm surprised you don't see black women in Germany. I heard there are quite a few there..just ask some locals

[sucio44]

(12-05-2012 03:15 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-04-2012 11:11 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

I would be considered dark skin myself. I feel a bit ashamed to say that,

As a latino/white man who has grown up around alot of black people, I have to say...

Many black people have an "inferiority complex". They hate themselves for being black. I don't like this.

I think its all social conditioning. You have been taught to hate yourself. You have been programmed to believe you are less beautiful, less capable, more violent, etc, etc. This is all bullshit.

The slave maters have brainwashed you. Time to wake up!!!

They are making money from your suffering. Every time a black person goes to jail, its more money and business for the lawyers, judges, clerks, jail staff, prison officials, cops, etc.

Making blacks hate themselves is big business. And they are making billions!!

SHUT UP STUPID!

[el mechanico]

^^ Haha there might be some truth to that. That girl that speak posted isn't black though. If she is than I am too more or less.

[Screwston]

I always thought it was funny when black girls at school would say they want me to get them pregnant so the baby would be light lol. Yeah in America, white is right. People are just always gonna look at you different if you're brown or black until you talk to them and show them you're "not like the rest". I remember a black teacher in high school telling me people are always gonna see my last name first and make up their mind about me. Sucks that you have to try extra hard just to prove to people you're not another stereotype.

[Moma]

(12-05-2012 07:28 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  

^^ Haha there might be some truth to that. That girl that speak posted isn't black though. If she is than I am too more or less.

What girl?

[Screwston]

^^Alicia Keys. I think she's mixed. Shit, I think I'm darker than her yellabone ass.

[Moma]

I don't like Oluchi's look much. She is too skinny. I just googled her image and her husband is tiny! She may beat his ass every now and then!

My favourite is still Omotola Jalade, she is sexy as fcuk and she has four kids!!

[rudebwoy]

(12-05-2012 05:12 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(12-05-2012 04:19 PM)jariel Wrote:  

Everything but your first sentence sounds like something I've been saying on this board for the longest.

I know, you have been saying this for a while.

Sometimes, I think black people need to hear it from a non black person.

This is real talk, once you actually stop and take a look at the social conditioning it becomes clear as day. The US media is brutal, they never portray anything positive when it comes to black folks.

Pam Grier never gets old and I hope guys are not trying to suggest she is hot only because she is supposedly "mixed".

[Moma]

(12-05-2012 07:49 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

Pam Grier never gets old and I hope guys are not trying to suggest she is hot only because she is supposedly "mixed".

I would squirt something into Pam and she is 50 plus..

[rudebwoy]

http://booredatwork.com/2011/03/04/anowa...wer-house/

For you Moma!

[Moma]

(12-05-2012 08:00 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

http://booredatwork.com/2011/03/04/anowa...wer-house/

For you Moma!

I've seen her before..she is too tuff for me, it will feel like MMA instead of sex if I link her..200 pounds of West African female muscle is too much wahala for me..

[RASER]

(12-05-2012 05:21 AM)speakeasy Wrote:  

^^^ I've noticed that there's a lot of Italian guys that like black women. The ones in Italy in particular. Onweagba is attractive, but I'd still take Alicia Keys over her any day.

The reason us Italian men like black girls is many.

1/ We just like ALL woman, period

2/ White Italian girls are primadonna bitches, so look elsewhere.

3/ And of course LOTS of blacks in Italy these days, so lots of these hottie's are around

"Lifes about, shooting your load"