[AneroidOcean]

(01-07-2019 06:38 AM)Hombre Wrote:  

Jesus, what a lying skank. I hope he uses the full weight of the legal system to recuperate the costs he paid to this bitch, especially the child support for which he never should have been responsible. With interest.

You have no idea how the family courts in the US and even in other countries work. Those shouldn't even be considered a part of the justice system as the goals and results are rarely justice.

The courts won't ever order any of that money back because they believe (and never verify in even the least bit) that the money was for the kids, so they can't take the money back as it was the kids money.

Heartbreaking.

Others saying not to marry don't understand that many places have cohabitation laws and if you're going to have kids it doesn't matter that much if you're married or not (in terms of what the family courts will be able to get out of you).

[The Catalyst]

(01-07-2019 12:49 PM)Horus Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 11:43 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  

Inversion Agenda.

Punish the Innocent.

Reward the Guilty.

Seeing this everywhere now.

I bet even many readers of this mentally skip over all the facts and say to themselves:

"Of course they are his children!"

And:

"How could he do this to her?"

I am starting to not bother with so many conversations or possible comments on Youtube or wherever. People seem to have a knee jerk reaction that they can't shake to defend awful people and criticize righteous ones.

If you disagree, they accuse you of hate speech.

There is a serious push to interpret the world as the opposite of how it really is, and many are buying into it.

There is no point anymore even giving it any emotion.

NPCs gonna NPC.

A couple of guys were discussing this at work today and I overheard the conversation. After a few minutes of discussion, they reached the mutual conclusion that, although the man deserves sympathy and the woman was to blame for a shitty situation, she doesn't deserve TOO much blame. After all, they reasoned, her intentions weren't all bad - she had obviously realised that she couldn't have children with her husband, so she gave him sons by another means. This was a noble deed on her part. Also, according to these sages, it's understandable for the boys to cut off contact with him, because of the way he treated their mother by unfairly going after her money when he is already wealthy.

This sort of thing happens all the time. Sticking up for scummy people and attacking good people. Sort of like Jordan Peterson fanboys in the thread(I kid, I kid- well not really but I can understand why people would disagree).

So often in real life there are many situations where the good people are attacked for no reason and scummy people's actions are rationalised away. The "logic" is the good people made them feel bad(or generally some more clever rationalisation, but boils down to that), and the scummy people were good people who "did what they had to do"(no proof that they were good nor that they had to do those things, but whatever).

I've come to the conclusion this is left leaning/moderate people who have weak minds. Which is why women are like this more than men. It's basically Stockholm syndrome extrapolated(happened in Stockholm in the 70s- a very left leaning city). You side with the scum(hostage takers) and attack the good people(cops) because you know if good prevails "it's understandable" why you would think that, you weren't thinking clearly, you were in shock etc etc. But if scum comes on top you obviously have curried favor with them. That drives their emotions/motivations/actions and everything that happens after is intellectual window dressing. If you aren't weak minded then it frees you to make the more moral decision as you aren't reliant on other people as you can make better decisions and have more agency over your life.

If enough people in society are weak minded like this you would ALWAYS be slammed like this acting like the cop and anything would be rationalised acting like the scum. I think a temporary stop gap solution would be acting like scum without actually being scum.

[MongolianAbroad]

(01-07-2019 12:11 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 06:51 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

Yet another piece of evidence of deep and innate hatred towards men within the US family courts.

And they call us misogynists?

Hypocritical fucks.

As far as I could gather this happened in the U.K. - I'm not even sure that paternity tests are legal there. In France they are not. Meaning a woman can claim you're the kid's father and there's not much you can do. Hospitals will refuse your request to perform a paternity test.

Stories like these make my blood boil and sometimes I wonder if Islam taking over the West is such a bad idea after all... May be worth it just to see those skanks receiving some much needed comeuppance.

I think this already happened. Like 1000, 2000, 3000 years ago I mean. Things got out of hand and some guys got together and were like, "All right men, we've got a problem, the THOTTERY is too damn high! If things continue the way they're going, everything we worked for, the civilization we worked so hard to build, will cease to exist! What can we do to get things back on track?"

And then there we go, the major world religions either came into being or were adopted in places where they hadn't been adopted yet.

And then all the young guys of the new generation, seeing how now they couldn't get laid as easily were like, "Nah, babe, religion is silly, Atheism is the way to go, these religious guys are holding both of us down! Be happy, be free!"

Then we get STD's, population decline, single motherhood, etc.

Then some guys get together and go, "The THOTTERY is too damn high!"

It's a circle.

[Horus]

(01-07-2019 01:23 PM)astro Wrote:  

@Horus the sad thing is I can’t differentiate between if you’re trolling or if that’s actually a current view point. I can only hope you’re trolling.

I also wish I were trolling. I don't think that most people's views are this extreme, but there are plenty who come very close.

In fact, I now wonder if this is what these guys really believe, or if they were trying to out virtue signal each other by sympathising with the woman.

[worldwidetraveler]

This really should be a jailable offense. I am sure if the roles were reversed and women were impacted it would be.

Many cases of a dude finding out he isn't the father and the court systems tells him he still has to pay up.

They wonder why guys are checking out and not playing the game.

[Jetset]

Sorry, Richard. I guess telling your wife I was Jewish was a pretty mean joke. I was just trying to prevent her from finding me if I had to delete her number.

[Captain Gh]

(01-07-2019 10:01 AM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  

That's pretty brutal, man.

I think the paternity test is a no-brainer today, but also never getting legally married. We keep talking about downsides to marriage, and I can't really see any upside as we keep going down this path.

The legal system has already caught up with that my friend! With the exception of a few states (New York comes to mind & also the province of Quebec) co-habitation for a certain period of time is enough ground for her to ask for support if this change creates enough of a dent in her "accustomed lifestyle"! I believe in Ontario it's 6 months or 1 year! Usually the women who use this tactic only due so when they got cheated out of a "I do" from a high powered man such as this example!

[Captain Gh]

(01-07-2019 02:08 PM)Spaniard88 Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 12:11 PM)redpillage Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 06:51 AM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

Yet another piece of evidence of deep and innate hatred towards men within the US family courts.

And they call us misogynists?

Hypocritical fucks.

As far as I could gather this happened in the U.K. - I'm not even sure that paternity tests are legal there. In France they are not. Meaning a woman can claim you're the kid's father and there's not much you can do. Hospitals will refuse your request to perform a paternity test.

Stories like these make my blood boil and sometimes I wonder if Islam taking over the West is such a bad idea after all... May be worth it just to see those skanks receiving some much needed comeuppance.

I think this already happened. Like 1000, 2000, 3000 years ago I mean. Things got out of hand and some guys got together and were like, "All right men, we've got a problem, the THOTTERY is too damn high! If things continue the way they're going, everything we worked for, the civilization we worked so hard to build, will cease to exist! What can we do to get things back on track?"

And then there we go, the major world religions either came into being or were adopted in places where they hadn't been adopted yet.

And then all the young guys of the new generation, seeing how now they couldn't get laid as easily were like, "Nah, babe, religion is silly, Atheism is the way to go, these religious guys are holding both of us down! Be happy, be free!"

Then we get STD's, population decline, single motherhood, etc.

Then some guys get together and go, "The THOTTERY is too damn high!"

It's a circle.

Yep! Reminds me of the Second Matrix Movie when Neo meets the Architect... and then proceed to let him know what the Matrix is really about

[Captain Gh]

(01-07-2019 01:42 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 06:38 AM)Hombre Wrote:  

Jesus, what a lying skank. I hope he uses the full weight of the legal system to recuperate the costs he paid to this bitch, especially the child support for which he never should have been responsible. With interest.

You have no idea how the family courts in the US and even in other countries work. Those shouldn't even be considered a part of the justice system as the goals and results are rarely justice.

The courts won't ever order any of that money back because they believe (and never verify in even the least bit) that the money was for the kids, so they can't take the money back as it was the kids money.

Heartbreaking.

Others saying not to marry don't understand that many places have cohabitation laws and if you're going to have kids it doesn't matter that much if you're married or not (in terms of what the family courts will be able to get out of you).

Right on the Money! And in some circumstances... kids are not even necessary for men to pony up that $$$!

[Mage]

(01-07-2019 11:07 AM)zigZag Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 08:16 AM)Mage Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 06:52 AM)zigZag Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 06:00 AM)Mage Wrote:  

Her new partner must know this story after it's gone viral.

I cannot understand men who give such evil bitches the second chance. Where do these suckers come form?

There is no brotherhood in life. It's every man for himself.

That has nothing to do with brotherhood or absence of it.

It has everything to do with common sense to stay away from women capable of such horrible deceit.

Every woman is capable of such horrible deceit. The next dude gets to enjoy her millions of dollars that she got as a reward for cucking her husband. He also gets to see what happened to that guy and I'm gonna guess he's probably smart enough to NOT make that same mistake. At the end of the day, you gotta protect yourself. This dude didn't.

You and guys like that probably think that you are so much smarter then the poor dude who got cucked and used. You aren't. It is self delusion. If a woman is a proven villain she will find a way to use and abuse you too. You won''t see it coming. Surely she will not just give you her millions. Women like that love nothing but money. And if you insist you can be happy on such dirty money then you are but an animal deserving to be taken for a ride.

[Chetthebaker]

@dirtyblueshirt
She almost certainly turned the kids against him which is why they hate him despite his years of support and fathering.

My own father divorced from his first wife back in the 70s after 5 years. No kids as the woman turned out to be barren, but he got screwed by a lawyer known to pay off the judges. He still pays alimony to this crazy childless cunt over 40 years later. I grew up with a lot of lawyer jokes.

One time when I was a teenager he got a letter asking him for the payment because he decided to let her come after him for it, just to fuck with her because she was lazy and had no job. He showed us all the letter and it’s still one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. After asking for the money, she pointed out that in his profession he must know lots of eligible well-to-do men, and she would appreciate being introduced to one as she’s still single. The fucking nerve.

It was around that time that the ex called our house and my mom got in the phone and told her something to the effect of “why don’t you get a job you dried up old cunt.” We still laugh about that one.

Fast forward to my own divorce a few years ago. My dad had several cautionary tales much worse than his own as he was thankfully able to afford the 9k a year in alimony he pays this bitch in perpetuity. One involved a colleague of his that had 4 kids back in the 70s and got divorced after something like 9-10 years of marriage. The kids apparently hated him because the mother, who of course got custody despite, turned them all against him.

Whenever they’d want something she’d say ‘why don’t you go ask your “millionaire father”’?
Meanwhile, even with a solid living this dude was busting ass to pay for her and the kids she took away from him for over 30 years.

Thankfully I had no kids.

[SlickyBoy]

(01-07-2019 10:33 AM)Dirtyblueshirt Wrote:  

And the way the kids turned on him. This guy is better off without them. Too bad he invested so much of his time and resources on such an ungrateful bunch.

True statement. At least now he can make plans that don't involve any of them making health care decisions, inheriting assets, life insurance and whatever else may have been in his estate plan. I can see a woman pulling this off, but three sons brought through the formative years? He'd have to be a completely abusive asshole for them to wipe their memories of him. Hope that isn't the case, but who knows.

[debeguiled]

(01-07-2019 06:53 AM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

The hardest thing for me to believe is how can the children even DARE refuse to speak to him now? Just like for him... that would be the shit that would make it really really hard to get out of bed for me! And with Private School & Uni paid for... his "children" will most likely go on to be successful... while he won't even receive a Post Card! Unreal!

Seeing as how their real father doesn't even speak to them, it kind of runs in the family.

[dream100]

still people think life is fair and equal lololololol

[RatInTheWoods]

This is another course study work in my soon to be released "men's studies" degree coming to a taxpayer funded university near you soon.

[MongolianAbroad]

(01-07-2019 03:11 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 10:01 AM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  

That's pretty brutal, man.

I think the paternity test is a no-brainer today, but also never getting legally married. We keep talking about downsides to marriage, and I can't really see any upside as we keep going down this path.

The legal system has already caught up with that my friend! With the exception of a few states (New York comes to mind & also the province of Quebec) co-habitation for a certain period of time is enough ground for her to ask for support if this change creates enough of a dent in her "accustomed lifestyle"! I believe in Ontario it's 6 months or 1 year! Usually the women who use this tactic only due so when they got cheated out of a "I do" from a high powered man such as this example!

Easy solution, don't cohabitate.

[MongolianAbroad]

(01-07-2019 07:59 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

This is another course study work in my soon to be released "men's studies" degree coming to a taxpayer funded university near you soon.

Dude, that shouldn't even be a joke...in all seriousness, this stuff needs to be taught in high school!

Of course that won't happen, so I'm thinking something along the lines of RooshV University, where guys from the forum make video courses and sell them, and Roosh takes a cut. Everyone's kept anonymous, and folks make courses in their subject specialties, like:

Wife Selection 101
Night Game 101
Tinder Game 101
Divorce Strategies 101
Don't Bang Crazy 101
Preventing False Accusations 101
Day Game 101
Location Independence 101

Or Roosh can make the courses himself based on the content gathered together by every member of the forum in all these years, perhaps with input from subject matter experts on each course as well and they could get a cut if their contributions are significant enough.

If you complete every course, you get your Men's Studies Certificate, and let's be real, that certificate would be more valuable than most college degrees nowadays.

The 2010's were the time for RooshV Forum, perhaps the 2020's will be the time for RooshV University.

Men's Studies indeed...

[Saweeep]

As a terminally ill man, how he's resisting a hitman is beyond me.

[Aurini]

(01-07-2019 01:50 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

This sort of thing happens all the time. Sticking up for scummy people and attacking good people. Sort of like Jordan Peterson fanboys in the thread(I kid, I kid- well not really but I can understand why people would disagree).

This is the bedrock of our culture.

From day one, we're indoctrinated into how villains are forced into their actions by circumstances, and the real villains are those that forced them into it through their intolerance. Sandman, in Spiderman 3: "I'm not a bad man... I just do bad things."

Narcissism 101. It's so appealing, because if you believe Sandman then you can believe that you're not a bad person just because you did a bad thing. "I'm not a thief... I just really wanted a cookie, so I took one. But I'm not a thief!"

They only people who can truly be bad are the Patriarchy; generally speaking, this is the overbearing White father who pushes their effeminate son into becoming a drug-fiend dying of AIDS, but it can be any character fulfilling the Patriarchal role.

I could write a list of examples which illustrate this... but honestly, it's a lot easier to simply challenge you: can you provide me with one example of a Patriachy (be it the father, the police department, the corporation, et cetera) in film that turns out to be the Good Guy? One example of the White Knights galloping in to the cavalry's charge, and re-establishing law and order?

Best we got these days is dark anti-heroes.

[Captain Gh]

(01-07-2019 06:02 PM)Chetthebaker Wrote:  

@dirtyblueshirt
She almost certainly turned the kids against him which is why they hate him despite his years of support and fathering.

My own father divorced from his first wife back in the 70s after 5 years. No kids as the woman turned out to be barren, but he got screwed by a lawyer known to pay off the judges. He still pays alimony to this crazy childless cunt over 40 years later. I grew up with a lot of lawyer jokes.

One time when I was a teenager he got a letter asking him for the payment because he decided to let her come after him for it, just to fuck with her because she was lazy and had no job. He showed us all the letter and it’s still one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen. After asking for the money, she pointed out that in his profession he must know lots of eligible well-to-do men, and she would appreciate being introduced to one as she’s still single. The fucking nerve.

It was around that time that the ex called our house and my mom got in the phone and told her something to the effect of “why don’t you get a job you dried up old cunt.” We still laugh about that one.

Fast forward to my own divorce a few years ago. My dad had several cautionary tales much worse than his own as he was thankfully able to afford the 9k a year in alimony he pays this bitch in perpetuity. One involved a colleague of his that had 4 kids back in the 70s and got divorced after something like 9-10 years of marriage. The kids apparently hated him because the mother, who of course got custody despite, turned them all against him.

Whenever they’d want something she’d say ‘why don’t you go ask your “millionaire father”’?
Meanwhile, even with a solid living this dude was busting ass to pay for her and the kids she took away from him for over 30 years.

Thankfully I had no kids.

5 Years of Marriage... and 40+ years of alimony?

[The Black Knight]

(01-07-2019 03:11 PM)Captain Gh Wrote:  

(01-07-2019 10:01 AM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  

That's pretty brutal, man.

I think the paternity test is a no-brainer today, but also never getting legally married. We keep talking about downsides to marriage, and I can't really see any upside as we keep going down this path.

******The legal system has already caught up with that my friend! With the exception of a few states (New York comes to mind & also the province of Quebec) co-habitation for a certain period of time is enough ground for her to ask for support if this change creates enough of a dent in her "accustomed lifestyle"!****** I believe in Ontario it's 6 months or 1 year! Usually the women who use this tactic only due so when they got cheated out of a "I do" from a high powered man such as this example!

In the USA, this is absolutely false.

Only a handful of states even recognize common law marriages and the few that did, many have abolish it over the last several decades. None of the states that still have common law marriage laws say if you live with a woman for X amount of time, you're legally married. You have to take very overt actions beyond being together for even the possibility of a common law marriage to be granted.

You're safe to co-habitat in the USA. For now, at least.

Source: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/...er2-4.html

[Aszhaeleos]

Quote:

when she became pregnant with the first child, Mrs Mason declared a sudden interest in Judaism and also insisted all three children were given Jewish middle names. She also refused to have them christened.

The biological (((father))) to these children would be a hero at his local synagogue. Probably awarded with a gold medallion and high fives all round.

Cucked a wealthy Goy WASP male and demanded the WASP bitch make his children strictly Jewish. Though perhaps she is a Jewish witch herself.

The kids now resent the man that sacrificed countless hours of emotional , physical and financial investment into them. Runs in the DNA

He was basically a host for parasitical organisms.

[Nordwand]

Whilst I have great sympathy for this man, and hope that justice is served, I do question why this wasn't nipped in the bud. Why did he not demand to know why his wife wanted a Jewish name when their first child was born? I, for one, would have been confrontational, to say the least.

[Aszhaeleos]

Quote:

Gad. Shas. 2:2: “A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl.”

Quote:

Talmud IV / 4 / 52b “Towards a Non-Jew the Jew doesn’t cause an adultery… Punishable for the Jew is just the adultery towards his next, that means the wife of a Jew. The wife of the Non-Jew is excluded”

Quote:

Talmud IV / 4 / 81 + 82ab “There is no wife for the goyim, they really aren’t their wives”