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American women from small towns or states = LTR/wifey material?
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American women from small towns or states = LTR/wifey material?

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Quote: (12-18-2018 05:02 AM)Rawdog Wrote:  

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Quote: (12-17-2018 05:18 PM)Super Average Man Wrote:  

This idea that you can easily find a suitable wife outside the US sounds absurd to anyone who's actually not living in the US. I live in South America and I can tell you it's not easy in here. 8+ in looks, high IQ, virgin / low notch count, feminine/conservative, under 21, will marry a guy in his 30s? A foreign guy at that? Good fucking luck, let me know when you find this unicorn because I want one too. Some things you should consider:

- Smartphones are everywhere.
- Feminism and modernity are everywhere.
- Finding a traditional girl in most of the world is looking for a needle in a haystack. It's not just the US, they're rare everywhere.
- Smart girls are typically from wealthy families. IQ correlates with wealth. Wealthy families in developing countries are typically "Westernised" and not traditional.
- The same applies, to some extent, to beautiful girls. Poor girls don't have as much access to nutrition, clothes, etc. The girls who will catch your eye will often be middle / upper class and very Westernised.
- Traditional, intelligent, beautiful girls do exist. But they are usually not interested in foreigners. They want to stay close to their families, and they'd rather marry a high status local who comes from a similar place as they do and understands them in a way you never could as a foreigner.
- If you take a girl out of her natural environment, she'll adapt to the new environment. If you take a traditional girl out of wherever you found her and bring her to some decadent first world city, she'll be negatively influenced.

It's not impossible, but it's much harder than it sounds. From what I can see, we have a lot of guys in this forum who want to settle down and who also travel a lot. How come they're not finding wives? It's just hard. Most of the girls who fit the requirements marry early to someone in their social circles. When they don't, there's usually something wrong with them.

I think you'd have better luck looking for an American girl in Utah or something like that.
If this is truly important to you and you're beginning to panic, you should start as soon as possible. Reevaluate whatever you're doing with your life and make it so you're living according to your goals.

That conservative/traditional/feminine American girl in Utah/Wyoming can be easily corrupted on a short trip to NYC, LA or Miami.

I would rather take a risk with a foreign girl than an American one

That's hilarious. You think women from Utah/Wyoming will easily be corrupted by a short trip to NYC, LA, or Miami but don't think finding a wife abroad and traveling with her or bringing her to the U.S. won't do the same?

Having grown up in a small town in the Rocky Mountains the idea that all conservative women here become sluts if they go to NYC (which almost none of them do) is ridiculous. Slut shaming exists here, and you can't sleep around in a small town without word getting out. The two sluts in our high school had to move to different cities and live with extended family members because everyone treated them like second-class citizens. By the time high school finishes all the sluts move to big cities and the good women stay local. Not to mention fathers and mothers have no problem slut shaming their own daughters as well. Nobody wants the community to know they raised a slut.

NYC is the mecca of sluts. Don't compare women in the rest of the U.S. to the women you've met in a city that draws from the worst of everywhere else. The good women stay around their family or live in a city like Cheyenne so they can visit their families often.

I lived in Asia for 5+ years, speak Chinese so had access to better women, and have traveled extensively in Europe. Everyone here has a hard on for foreign women as wives, but I just don't see it. Rural communities in the U.S. breed women that are just as good if not better wife material than metro cities anywhere else in the world imo. My large extended family has loads of stable marriages with women who cook, clean, behave like women should, and prioritize motherhood above all else.

The problem with Rooshv members finding wives is that the places the good women are, they don't want to go. And staying around those places for a few weeks or even a month or two isn't near long enough to convince a good woman that you are going to stay around for good and not just pump and dump.


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American women from small towns or states = LTR/wifey material?

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American women from small towns or states = LTR/wifey material?

Yes, you can.

But this is more about the rural vs urban divide, irrespective of US region.

Find a place that aligns with YOUR career/interests/personality, and look around the habitable smaller cities there.

Like to hunt and fish? Mountain west.

Hate the cold, laid back, love football and great food? Texas/South.

Like the cold, love beer and cheese, can occupy yourself for ~6 months tundra? Midwest.

Need some seasonal variation, proximity to major cities? Mid atlantic.
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American women from small towns or states = LTR/wifey material?

Quote: (12-21-2018 08:45 AM)Day Game Bang Wrote:  

Thread inspired by Rawdog and Super Average Man

Quote: (12-18-2018 05:02 AM)Rawdog Wrote:  

Having grown up in a small town in the Rocky Mountains the idea that all conservative women here become sluts if they go to NYC (which almost none of them do) is ridiculous. Slut shaming exists here, and you can't sleep around in a small town without word getting out. The two sluts in our high school had to move to different cities and live with extended family members because everyone treated them like second-class citizens. By the time high school finishes all the sluts move to big cities and the good women stay local. Not to mention fathers and mothers have no problem slut shaming their own daughters as well. Nobody wants the community to know they raised a slut.

The problem with Rooshv members finding wives is that the places the good women are, they don't want to go. And staying around those places for a few weeks or even a month or two isn't near long enough to convince a good woman that you are going to stay around for good and not just pump and dump.


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The problem with those rural/small towns is that mostly everyone gets married straight out of high school or college while the rest move to other cities. Those places can be hard to find young, single women without kids.

Make our guns illegal and we'll call them "undocumented"
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American women from small towns or states = LTR/wifey material?

Quote: (12-22-2018 06:51 PM)2 Cool 4 U Wrote:  

Quote: (12-21-2018 08:45 AM)Day Game Bang Wrote:  

Thread inspired by Rawdog and Super Average Man

Quote: (12-18-2018 05:02 AM)Rawdog Wrote:  

Having grown up in a small town in the Rocky Mountains the idea that all conservative women here become sluts if they go to NYC (which almost none of them do) is ridiculous. Slut shaming exists here, and you can't sleep around in a small town without word getting out. The two sluts in our high school had to move to different cities and live with extended family members because everyone treated them like second-class citizens. By the time high school finishes all the sluts move to big cities and the good women stay local. Not to mention fathers and mothers have no problem slut shaming their own daughters as well. Nobody wants the community to know they raised a slut.

The problem with Rooshv members finding wives is that the places the good women are, they don't want to go. And staying around those places for a few weeks or even a month or two isn't near long enough to convince a good woman that you are going to stay around for good and not just pump and dump.


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The problem with those rural/small towns is that mostly everyone gets married straight out of high school or college while the rest move to other cities. Those places can be hard to find young, single women without kids.


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Pennsylvania, Delaware, Rhode Island, New York/NJ

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You're missing 5 other states on that list, bucko. Some of the most rural ones, too.[Image: dodgy.gif]
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American women from small towns or states = LTR/wifey material?

For the record I only mentioned Utah because of the stereotype that it's a conservative state. I'm not American - I have no idea whether it really is a good place for wife shopping (maybe if you convert into Mormonism?). The point is "domestic travel game" is likely to yield better results when it comes to an LTR than going abroad.

This is something I've been thinking about a lot lately. I love to travel and bang hoes from other countries; but thinking about things logically, the likelihood of my travels resulting in a successful LTR is slim. The premise is that I'd be able to get a higher value girl abroad because being a foreigner gets me a slightly higher SMV. However, assuming the premise is truthful, it doesn't paint the whole picture. There will always be some cultural distance between me and my hypothetical foreign wife. Bringing her home would probably work against me in some form or another. And finally, the fact she's dating me at all is a red flag in itself. Why is she going for me, a foreigner, and not a local? Is that normal? At times it feels like "finding a good girl abroad" is a contradiction in terms. A truly good girl won't go for you, because you're a stranger to her community.

On the other hand, whenever I go to a small town in my home country, I see a much more balanced dating market than the one I'm used to. And I see happier, healthier couples than I do in capitals. A foreigner would have a very hard time penetrating those markets, but they're perfectly accessible to me, as long as I put in the time and effort to get a good reputation in town and establish some connections. So instead of hunting unicorns abroad, maybe I should be looking at home - but off the beaten path.

At the moment what I envision for myself is just banging as many girls as I can, from home or elsewhere when I'm traveling... but if I ever decide to settle, I'll look for a fellow countrywoman.
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American women from small towns or states = LTR/wifey material?

This is my endgame at the moment. Maybe in a year, maybe in 5 year, I will tour the areas of the US that my values align with. I think that's my best bet for finding a good partner and environment for raising a family and setting down roots. I'm particularly interested in the midsized cities in the mountainous South East and the American Redoubt.
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