[quaker13]

(10-31-2018 11:17 AM)No More Mr. Soy Boy Wrote:  

Being a lawyer doing doc review is given as an example of how this man apparently has no ambition and is a "beta loser", but how really?
What if he finds it easy and gets a decent salary compared to other jobs he could possibly take on?

I mean, is Roosh a "beta" also, since he talks about a minimalistic lifestyle? Maybe this man thinks that they already have enough or more money than they need, so that's why he might as well put his time on being his kids. I think that would be pretty wise rather than trying to chase the newest IKEA furniture.

Surely not working out, dressing bad and being average in bed are not so good things, but I don't necessarily think that it automatically turns a man into a loser?

If there's something that makes him a loser from what you explained about him, I guess it's because of the reason that he did not screen out for a more virtous and reliable woman in his life and if he really did drugs like she claimed.

But isn't the real loser here actually this disgusting depraved cheating woman? I think more focus should be on her. With the wrong woman you can get cheated on regardless if you got your shit together or not and with the right woman she'll be faitful regardless if you keep having your shit together or not.

She did drugs with him. She was benefiting from his habit by freeloading. She isn't virtuous, but she is very typical of a modern woman. I don't have any loyalty to her so please don't approach this thread being critical of me, hell, im only the benefactor because the system is hypergamous.

I think there is something unmistakably Alpha by saying fuck the system and being a minimalist. I don't get the impression that this young man is saying fuck the system any more than a 30 year old man playing video games in his parents basemen 20 hours a day is saying fuck the system

[sethg]

(10-31-2018 11:28 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

I don't get the impression that this young man is saying fuck the system any more than a 30 year old man playing video games in his parents basemen 20 hours a day is saying fuck the system

I am not saying "fuck the system"; I don't give a shit about the system, I am just doing what I want, which as has been explained in depth already, is what alphas do:

The Only 'Alpha Male' Rule - Do What You Want
https://www.goodlookingloser.com/laid/fu...e-reactive

GLL Wrote:

Do Whatever the Fuck You Want

The idea that some slut's opinion of me should matter to me -- or to anyone for that matter -- is retarded, as far as I am concerned. Videogames are awesome, and if I feel like spending a year of my life doing just them, so be it. I'll get another slut after I am through with them, if I want to. The world is full of sluts ffs, especially now. God forbid a man did what he felt like doing instead of chasing after carrots to dissuade a slut from leaving him.

[Mackandal]

What was written above me was probably written by a basement dweller. Trying to rationalize his bad choices.

[sethg]

(10-31-2018 01:14 PM)Mackandal Wrote:  

What was written above me was probably written by a basement dweller. Trying to rationalize his bad choices.

There is something to be said for an honest "basement dweller" who follows his desires with no shame in an age flooded with effeminate losers whose entire lives revolve around neverending efforts to keep some vile slut who accepts more dick than a urinal from leaving them. I would take the former as a friend any day over the latter.

[quaker13]

(10-31-2018 10:22 AM)sethg Wrote:  

(10-31-2018 08:12 AM)quaker13 Wrote:  

(10-31-2018 06:05 AM)sethg Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 11:03 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 09:57 PM)sethg Wrote:  

Fuck that gay ass shit.

If I want to stay at home and play games for a year straight without working out or even showering, and the chick leaves me fuck her.

That's alpha.

Doing shit -- ANY shit -- so she won't leave you is gamma as fuck.

True story.

A woman who would stay with a man under those circumstances is a woman I wouldn't want to be with long term.

lol which is precisely the woman you should marry and have her raise your kids.

Which proves my point that no amount of reading ebooks will change the gamma into an alpha.

It's just such a feminine attitude to desire the woman who would leave you if you failed to "measure up" to her retarded standards.

I disagree. It's not like I'm a disabled war veteran and she's leaving me. She's essentially leaving the loser that I am or at least would be. My friends would grow concerned too if I behaved this way. I don't know what all this gamma and omega pua references are, but I simply have a difference of opinion. I wouldn't want my daughter staying with a man like that. I would want my daughter with a man of visibly high value

I would want my daughter to be with the man she married as a virgin till death do them part, regardless of what said man decided to do with his life after they married. You sound like you want your daughter to make full use of the cock carousel. Your opinions sound to me like those of exactly the kind of people who are responsible for the messed up degenerate sexual marketplace we have right now: effeminate gammas who think like women. Saying "it's my opinion" over and over does not make a shitty opinion acceptable among men. Maybe it does among women though. In fact, we all know it does.

Bro I like video games as much as the next person, but unfortunately for me I don't have enough time in the day to play them. Between consulting, boxing, my kid, my social life and lizards i simply don't have enough time. Hell, it took me like 4 months to binge watch breaking bad and that was a series i thoroughly enjoyed. So yes, being a basement dweller with no income living at home does in fact make you a loser, the good news is it's not a permanent station for you.

[The Golden God]

(10-31-2018 11:48 AM)sethg Wrote:  

The idea that some slut's opinion of me should matter to me -- or to anyone for that matter -- is retarded, as far as I am concerned. Videogames are awesome, and if I feel like spending a year of my life doing just them, so be it. I'll get another slut after I am through with them, if I want to. The world is full of sluts ffs, especially now. God forbid a man did what he felt like doing instead of chasing after carrots to dissuade a slut from leaving him.

OP had a point with self-improvement and being conscious of your habits in a relationship.

My initial reply wasn't to shit on the intent of his post, which seemed to be to warn about what he saw happen in the guy's relationship.

I think that you should not obsess daily about how you need to get out and make more money or go to the gym to get big to keep the Chads away from her. Relationships aren't a rat race where you are constantly competing and watching your back to make sure no one is going to swoop in and get your girl.

Having a mindset like that is just going to lead you to always feel like you aren't good enough and your relationship dynamic is going to suffer with you believing that you need to be constantly on your A game to hold down a girl.

You absolutely should have a purpose in life and take care of yourself, but please don't associate self-improvement with success in relationships with women, because the truth is you will not be successful in either until you know yourself and understand what you want in life.

Improvement solely for the sake of the pussy is just another form of putting it on the pedestal.

[The Golden God]

(10-31-2018 01:27 PM)sethg Wrote:  

(10-31-2018 01:14 PM)Mackandal Wrote:  

What was written above me was probably written by a basement dweller. Trying to rationalize his bad choices.

There is something to be said for an honest "basement dweller" who follows his desires with no shame in an age flooded with effeminate losers whose entire lives revolve around neverending efforts to keep some vile slut who accepts more dick than a urinal from leaving them. I would take the former as a friend any day over the latter.

I don't want to accuse anyone of being a basement dweller... but that is pretty spot on to what I would expect to hear from one.

Refusing to participate in society is not an answer to dealing with your problems. Hiding is NOT better.

I have far more respect for the nerdy dude who gets rejected and friendzoned constantly with zero game than I do for the trench-coat weirdos who try to convince me that sitting in mom's basement is the real moral victory.

[quaker13]

(10-31-2018 01:34 PM)The Golden God Wrote:  

(10-31-2018 11:48 AM)sethg Wrote:  

The idea that some slut's opinion of me should matter to me -- or to anyone for that matter -- is retarded, as far as I am concerned. Videogames are awesome, and if I feel like spending a year of my life doing just them, so be it. I'll get another slut after I am through with them, if I want to. The world is full of sluts ffs, especially now. God forbid a man did what he felt like doing instead of chasing after carrots to dissuade a slut from leaving him.

OP had a point with self-improvement and being conscious of your habits in a relationship.

My initial reply wasn't to shit on the intent of his post, which seemed to be to warn about what he saw happen in the guy's relationship.

I think that you should not obsess daily about how you need to get out and make more money or go to the gym to get big to keep the Chads away from her. Relationships aren't a rat race where you are constantly competing and watching your back to make sure no one is going to swoop in and get your girl.

Having a mindset like that is just going to lead you to always feel like you aren't good enough and your relationship dynamic is going to suffer with you believing that you need to be constantly on your A game to hold down a girl.

You absolutely should have a purpose in life and take care of yourself, but please don't associate self-improvement with success in relationships with women, because the truth is you will not be successful in either until you know yourself and understand what you want in life.

Improvement solely for the sake of the pussy is just another form of putting it on the pedestal.

Great post. I liken it to how I use to approach my career. I'm not fond of what i do in the least, but over the years I've grown to take pride in this white collar work that doesn't interest me. Even though i don't necessarily enjoy the work I do, Im certainly not stressed and I've grown to understand that despite my ambivalence about it the work i execute is a reflection of me. Why not take pride in it? No woman I deal with knows i take pride in this bullshit. I'm not doing it for more money. I'm doing it because it at its most base form is a direct reflection of me.

[sethg]

(10-31-2018 01:33 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  

Bro I like video games as much as the next person, but unfortunately for me I don't have enough time in the day to play them.

I don't care what you like or don't like, and if you don't have time to play games, that's not my problem.

I am not talking about you.

I am talking about me, and about what I like to do with my life, and about the fact that your views seem like effeminate poison to me. Every view you expound screams "loser" to me, and the fact that you think I am the loser here is hilarious.

[The Golden God]

Sethg, you're not gonna find anyone willing to listen to you when you can't pull your head out your own ass.

The devil-may-care attitude you're espousing in your posts isn't bringing anything of value to anyone, other than making you feel good about how "bad ass" you think you are when you read over them.

You sound like someone with relatively little life experience who enjoys screaming into a void to make himself feel important.

Or you might just be hangry, is mom not bringing you the meatloaf?

Either way, shut up.

[sethg]

(10-31-2018 02:52 PM)The Golden God Wrote:  

Sethg, you're not gonna find anyone willing to listen to you when you can't pull your head out your own ass.

The devil-may-care attitude you're espousing in your posts isn't bringing anything of value to anyone, other than making you feel good about how "bad ass" you think you are when you read over them.

You sound like someone with relatively little life experience who enjoys screaming into a void to make himself feel important.

Or you might just be hangry, is mom not bringing you the meatloaf?

Either way, shut up.

You can defend gammas and pedestalizing with your childish insults until you are blue in the face. It won't make them any less pathetic though.

[Atlanta Man]

Doc review sucks balls and no one went to Law School with dreams of document review but it pays the bills. The dude should strive for more in my opinion, but I am not him. She was fucking someone else , and he did not know, so he is better off without her. He will probably find the drive to be more now.

With document review and student loan deferral , he can afford a small apartment, a decent car , some clothes and a gym membership. He will soon have a new woman if he wants, there are many out there.

Fuck his ex girlfriend, she is a single woman about to enter another deceitful shitty relationship based on lies and selfishness.

[indiepua]

I agree with The Golden God and quaker. It is worth it to give up on your passions in order to reinvent yourself so that loose women won't leave you. Sorry, sethg, but pussy-even vile, slutty pusy like the one quaker defends-will always be more important to me than being myself and listening to my desires.

[RatInTheWoods]

This thread highlights the conflict between two golden rules of game:

1) Be the best man you can be and quality pussy will come and stay.

2) Be Alpha and do whatever the hell you want, women can come and go, we don't give a fuck because we have abundance mentality.


The truth lies in the balance of those two things, and perhaps be and do what you want for yourself, NOT to attract and maintain pussy.

[sethg]

(10-31-2018 05:06 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

This thread highlights the conflict between two golden rules of game:

1) Be the best man you can be and quality pussy will come and stay.

2) Be Alpha and do whatever the hell you want, women can come and go, we don't give a fuck because we have abundance mentality.

The truth lies in the balance of those two things, and perhaps be and do what you want for yourself, NOT to attract and maintain pussy.

The truth doesn't lie in balance. The truth lies in WHO says the thing.

If a scrawny douchebag nerd says it, it's laughable.

If I say it, since I am 6 foot 1, 200 pounds, with a master's degree in aerospace engineering, and at least an 8 in looks (personally, I think I am a 10), it's cool.

I can AFFORD to spend a year shut up in a room playing videogames and saying "fuck you" to the world, because the moment I put down my controller and take a shower, the world's mine for the taking again.

But if a complete loser nerd does the same thing, he is merely digging a deeper hole for himself, and is wasting time that he could put into becoming a proper human being.

The posters above mistook me for the latter, because they can't see me. It's understandable, but no less laughable from my perspective. And yeah, maybe the nerd, if he managed to ever get a girlfriend, would be well advised to employ the pedestalizing techniques the OP advocates, since it would be hard for him to ever find another. But it wouldn't be hard for me, so my attitude is also warranted.

[Tiger Man]

(10-31-2018 05:33 PM)sethg Wrote:  

(10-31-2018 05:06 PM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  

This thread highlights the conflict between two golden rules of game:

1) Be the best man you can be and quality pussy will come and stay.

2) Be Alpha and do whatever the hell you want, women can come and go, we don't give a fuck because we have abundance mentality.

The truth lies in the balance of those two things, and perhaps be and do what you want for yourself, NOT to attract and maintain pussy.

The truth doesn't lie in balance. The truth lies in WHO says the thing.

If a scrawny douchebag nerd says it, it's laughable.

If I say it, since I am 6 foot 1, 200 pounds, with a master's degree in aerospace engineering, and at least an 8 in looks (personally, I think I am a 10), it's cool.

I can AFFORD to spend a year shut up in a room playing videogames and saying "fuck you" to the world, because the moment I put down my controller and take a shower, the world's mine for the taking again.

But if a complete loser nerd does the same thing, he is merely digging a deeper hole for himself, and is wasting time that he could put into becoming a proper human being.

The posters above mistook me for the latter, because they can't see me. It's understandable, but no less laughable from my perspective. And yeah, maybe the nerd, if he managed to ever get a girlfriend, would be well advised to employ the pedestalizing techniques the OP advocates, since it would be hard for him to ever find another. But it wouldn't be hard for me, so my attitude is also warranted.

Edit: I see sethg has left the forum, so I guess I'll never really know...

[The Stronger Sex]

It could be argued that spending a year locked in your room playing videogames makes you a nerd loser, regardless of how tall you are.

[The Golden God]

Sethg reminds me of the typical frustrated kid you see these days, momma's boy who has been told his whole life he's special and when things don't work out for him he lashes out.

His post history talking about his "alpha male genetics" just proves to me he hasn't accomplished shit. You'll always hear narcissistic people who haven't done shit talk about how they have the potential to do whatever they want, but the reality is that they're just idealists with no experience.

Successful people preach the importance of hard work and lifting each other up in the community.

Thinking you can do whatever you want is just going to ensure that you end up rejected and alone, you have to give value to receive value. Telling a guy to not do anything to satisfy a girl so you don't make any "beta moves" is fucking retarded.

Some of these guys go too far in trying to fix their "beta tendencies" of the past, they over-correct and end up being assholes that no one wants to be around.

I was guilty of it myself when I first became involved in game and reading on red pill in high school.

You're not going to keep a high quality girl interested in you if you only do things that satisfy yourself. Human psychology still applies and has been around much longer than all these different versions of game theory that are online.

NO ONE wants to be around someone that only cares about satisfying themselves.

I'm not saying buy her flowers, take her on expensive dates where you pick up the bill and worship the ground she walks on. But, you need to hold a strong frame while providing enjoyment in whatever relationship you're going for, whether it's a one night stand or an LTR.

The extreme view of "I'll do whatever I want and she can fuck off if she doesn't like it" feels good to the guy who employs it but the reality is you'll be a lot more successful dropping that shit.

[Axel99]

This guy who is already a lawyer still needs to improve DAILY to keep some washed up skank around? Fuck that, good for him, keep rocking them cargo shorts homie.