[goodington]

We’ll have to agree to disagree on the coffee dates. The success rate is probably lower than for more unconventional dates and I’m sure I’ve lost out on bangs as a result, but they can still be extremely effective if your game is tight.

There’s also no substitute convenience-wise for being able to go downstairs from the office at 2pm on a work day, spend an hour meeting a new girl, then go back to work like nothing happened. If it was a dud I’ve lost nothing except an hour of my workday, and if she’s promising I’ll queue up a second date where I can close the deal.

There have even been a few times where I got the bang later that day, or in one case we met for coffee at 5pm, and by 6pm I was fucking her in the storage room in the basement of my condo building. You don’t need to take a girl go-karting to establish attraction and comfort...

[PapayaTapper]

(11-01-2018 09:44 AM)goodington Wrote:  

Update: she just sent me a DM “hi babe”. What should I text next?

^ Nothing

Or did you text back already?

Dude you seem to be hearing us... but you aint listening

You write "What should I text next?" but what I read is "Oh shit I still have a shot at the hottest pussy in my life! What are magic words that will help me get it?"

Youre leaking weakness / thirst/ desperation. Youre making my pussy dry and I dont even have one

We are trying to to teach you how to fish more effectively in the future and youre still trying to land this carp.

Ironically she's the one jiggling the flashy bait and like a doomed fish youre on impulse auto pilot

But the "solution" isn't in words in a text. Its in in your mindset, perception and inner dialogue.

Ive already laid out the step by step process that has the highest degree of success if you still want to hit this bangler...and your asking what to text her

Wait 2-3 days then text her "Meet me at x place tomorrow at 8. Wear something sexy" then follow the formula that I outlined above. Ignore any other response than "Ok, Ill be there, babe"

Do anything else and you may as well just offer to pay her for the pussy straight up

I write this knowing youll probably ignore the advice but maybe someone else can benefit

[Jefferson]

(11-01-2018 11:34 AM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

Youre making my pussy dry and I dont even have one

My God I love this thread...

[kaotic]

(11-01-2018 11:28 AM)goodington Wrote:  

There have even been a few times where I got the bang later that day, or in one case we met for coffee at 5pm, and by 6pm I was fucking her in the storage room in the basement of my condo building. You don’t need to take a girl go-karting to establish attraction and comfort...

Yet you want to take the girl in your OP you're trying to fuck to an EDM Club and give her MDMA?

Noir and PT seriously have give you so much fucking advice, I hardly scratched the surface like these players have.

They know EXACTLY what to do and they're seasoned vets, I've hungout with PT a few times, dude is the real deal.

You're maybe absorbing 20% of what they're saying man, you gotta stop being stubborn and stop giving excuses.

You need to step outside your comfort zone and try something new.

I can pretty much say your OP girl is a lost cause because you literally have no leverage on her.

[goodington]

Guys, chill and have a little faith. I left her on read, and will not be inviting her to the club. We’re having a discussion here, and just because I throw some shit against the wall on the forum it doesn’t mean I’m going to run off and actually do it.

Also, I do have leverage on her... I have all the photos from our shoot that she wants to be able to post online for her own validation. At some point I have to give her the proofs because that’s what photographers do, but I can make her squirm a little.

I could do the “meet me Friday at 8 at X” but I won’t have a location to take her to afterward, and I also already have plans to go see my regular side girl. I’m also going to Mexico for a week this Sunday so I was thinking I’d put her on ice until I get back, although if it were me I’d at least respond to her message and send over the proofs.

[PapayaTapper]

^ You seem like reasonable guy stuck in a marriage (no judgement) that isn't fulfilling all your needs...ok..I get it. I keep responding to your posts for several reasons. Among them is the fact that you show some flashes of "getting it".

I know youre not some clueless goofy kid and you have some semblance of game. Because of that I see an opportunity for a real breakthrough if you only get out of your own way a little

For example her needing to get her pictures / proofs from you is not leverage. Thats just one of the "perks" she's looking to extract from you that's she's leveraging by perpetuating the possibility of you getting her pussy.

You dont have any leverage until she's the one making excuses to come over and spend time sucking your dick and fucking you for your approval

You dont get that leverage with "stuff" (unless she's a straight up hooknitch)

You only get that kind of leverage on a woman by finger blasting her mind from "above" her.

"Above" as in better / stronger / dominant /... and caring less

[goodington]

Fuck, you’re right. I need to work on caring less. I find the hard part is getting “above”; once I’m there it’s fine, but getting there is hard for me for some reason.

[Shimmy]

Sociopath semi-pro taking you for a ride, you sound like a WK and she is manipulating the fuck out of you.

[Hypno]

Its easier to fuck a girl in the first hour than on the fourth date. After the first hour, she begins to set the hook and gets more leverage.

Everyone will act like a beta from time to time, no one is perfect. The only way you can un-do the damage is to ignore her, and then reframe as PT said a few posts above. Its counterintuitive, but the most effective thing is to do nothing.

[goodington]

Yeah, it’s funny... at this point I feel like it’s not worth the effort to try. We texted a bit back and forth because she wanted to do another photoshoot and I blew her off (said I’d never shot twice with the same girl, which is true) and she hasn’t really expressed any interest in hanging out otherwise.

I also gave her shit for being such a prude after saying “I love dick” when we went out at the bar with her friends:

Me: for a girl who loves dick you sure play hard to get
Her: Lol not at all, I’m a good girl

Says the blonde Asian with fake tits...

IG stories are great for ignoring girls.. just go out and have fun and they see everything you do without them.

[kaotic]

That text made you sound salty, how the hell are you still on this time raper?

Move on.

[PapayaTapper]

The old adage “You know the difference between a slut and a bitch? A slut fucks everybody. A bitch fucks everybody but you” fits

Of course she loves dick. They all do. What they don’t like is dick from guys that don’t turn them on.

And guess what category guys that come off as thirsty / needy / weak/ desperate / etc etc fall into.

[goodington]

Yeah, oh well. I am salty, but have also moved on. This was almost a week ago and I’m meeting new girls on Friday and next Tuesday.

Lesson learned, don’t pretend to be a nice guy just because she says that’s what she wants.