[Bienvenuto]

They start out even handed but eventually they can be relied on..

CNN - when you absolutely positively have to inject identity politics into every tennis match:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-EQBFt7nks

[Abelard Lindsey]

Compare Serena from 2001 with her in 2018. She is clearly masculinizing. This is likely due to steroid and other performance-enhancing compound use. She is actually quite pleasant and charming in the 2001 video. She is muscular and athletic, but over the top like she is today. Her voice is deeper and behavior much courser today than in 2001. Her face appears more masculine as well compared to 2001. All of this suggests steroid use.

[Trumpian]

(09-09-2018 10:30 AM)Abelard Lindsey Wrote:  

Compare Serena from 2001 with her in 2018. She is clearly masculinizing. This is likely due to steroid and other performance-enhancing compound use. She is actually quite pleasant and charming in the 2001 video. She is muscular and athletic, but over the top like she is today. Her voice is deeper and behavior much courser today than in 2001. Her face appears more masculine as well compared to 2001. All of this suggests steroid use.

Or menopause. Women's e/t ratio gets fucked up as they age.

I was stunned and delighted to see a Japanese girl beat her. But then I Google image searched her and I was like "oh..".

[questor70]

(09-09-2018 10:30 AM)Abelard Lindsey Wrote:  

Compare Serena from 2001 with her in 2018.

Needs pics. She was in the Sarah Connor T2 zone in 2001 but still clearly a woman.



The big difference now is her torso seems to have widened by a foot and her thighs and ass have become comically huge.



I'd hesitate to call her fat or out of shape but this sort of bulky physique won't perform well in anything other than football or weightlifting. You need SPEED on the court to catch that ball and that is why she's losing.

[Abelard Lindsey]

Serena is only 36 years old. She's not anywhere near menopause.

[monsquid]

Male or female most athletes reach their peak in their mid 30s. It's a combination of skill and physical athleticism. While skill can continue to go up there is a certain plateau while physical ability starts to decline for most starting around early 30s. Where these two curves meet is usually the apex of a professional athlete's career. Serena is on the decline. Others will take her spot. Someone who is smarter, faster, stronger, and younger will always eventually come along. Such is life.

[pants]

For endurance and weight lifting, that's the case.

Its been kind of rare for people in their 30's to do so well, what we sees on both side men/women has not been the case through history.

[Going strong]

(09-09-2018 10:33 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

I was stunned and delighted to see a Japanese girl beat her. But then I Google image searched her and I was like "oh..".

Naomi Osaka is a "hafu" (derived from the word Half), the daughter of a Haitian migrant and Japanese mother. They emigrated to the USA three years after Naomi's birth... In any case, Naomi hardly speaks Japanese.

I think Naomi's "biracial identity" might have confused and infuriated Serena. For Serena has a habit of hating on Asian women, probably because she feels threatened by their cute, slim femininity - but in Naomi's case, Serena was also confronted with a race-card as powerful as hers, or more. It must have unsettled Serena too much.

Regarding Serena's heavy drugs use, it is well-documented: she and the sister (and admittedly Simone Biles) use "medical-exemption drugs". Medical-Exemptions are the biggest scandal in the world of sports.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...ances.html

"The ITF said the Williams sisters had been given permission to use the drugs for 'therapeutic use' "

All these drugged-up "athletes" pretend to have Attention-Disorder or Asthma, and for political (and sponsor, it's big-money) reasons the sport authorities let them take drugs.

Questor70:

Serena is slow indeed, because of her massive steroid use, but she has a tactics to still win matches: She takes control of the point from the first moment, hitting hard from the middle of the court and not moving much, just dictating the game with her-his powerful ground-strokes. If you watch her play, you'll notice that she rarely moves from the center of the court, while forcing her slim opponents to run everywhere. Her secret being, to take control right from the first moment, from serve or return.

[marty]

(09-09-2018 10:33 AM)Trumpian Wrote:  

(09-09-2018 10:30 AM)Abelard Lindsey Wrote:  

Compare Serena from 2001 with her in 2018. She is clearly masculinizing. This is likely due to steroid and other performance-enhancing compound use. She is actually quite pleasant and charming in the 2001 video. She is muscular and athletic, but over the top like she is today. Her voice is deeper and behavior much courser today than in 2001. Her face appears more masculine as well compared to 2001. All of this suggests steroid use.

Or menopause. Women's e/t ratio gets fucked up as they age.

I was stunned and delighted to see a Japanese girl beat her. But then I Google image searched her and I was like "oh..".

Yeah, unfortunately the only thing Japanese about that girl is that her mother is Japanese. She doesn't even speak the language (her mother tongue). She's been living in the US since she was 3 years old (I just looked that up on Wikipedia a few days ago), she's basically American. I find it ridiculous how she can compete as a Japanese player when she can't even give an interview in Japanese.

But that's slightly off topic. I'm glad Osaka is black because otherwise Serena would have played the race card as well.

[Buck Wild]

^^^^^
Hates asians, threatened by biracial identity---LOL. I thought Serena was out of line here for sure but there are more stretches than a yoga class in this post.

[Hypno]

Roid rage.

[mikado]

You can't just stop commenting on race than even the legal status of Osaka's father is discussed, Going Strong?

[kosko]

(09-09-2018 10:49 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

(09-09-2018 10:30 AM)Abelard Lindsey Wrote:  

Compare Serena from 2001 with her in 2018.

Needs pics. She was in the Sarah Connor T2 zone in 2001 but still clearly a woman.



The big difference now is her torso seems to have widened by a foot and her thighs and ass have become comically huge.



I'd hesitate to call her fat or out of shape but this sort of bulky physique won't perform well in anything other than football or weightlifting. You need SPEED on the court to catch that ball and that is why she's losing.

She just has a damn kid months ago...

I get that most find her ugly but this obsession about her masculine traits is all quite silly.

Nobody wants to talk about how she is 10 years past her expiring date for the sport. She has grabbed on to more years due to using power to overwhelm her opponents and also he fact that woman's tennis has been a barren desert with weak competition the past few years.

I don't get it. We rally that women should have kids and be mothers, Serena does this yet we still stomp on her. There are more nasty women to hold harsh criticism at.

I don't care much for whatever else she does. I don't hear spew political nonsense. All she does is play tennis and obsseses about being respected for what she has done.
She is a tame woman compared some of the other nasty trash like Lena Dunham we have in the moderm culture at the moment.

[Trumpian]

I'm surprised the Japanese government LET her represent them.

I mean they sent full blooded Japanese back to Brazil because they didn't think they were Japanese enough lol.

[marty]

(09-09-2018 11:26 AM)kosko Wrote:  

(09-09-2018 10:49 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

(09-09-2018 10:30 AM)Abelard Lindsey Wrote:  

Compare Serena from 2001 with her in 2018.

Needs pics. She was in the Sarah Connor T2 zone in 2001 but still clearly a woman.



The big difference now is her torso seems to have widened by a foot and her thighs and ass have become comically huge.



I'd hesitate to call her fat or out of shape but this sort of bulky physique won't perform well in anything other than football or weightlifting. You need SPEED on the court to catch that ball and that is why she's losing.

She just has a damn kid months ago...

I get that most find her ugly but this obsession about her masculine traits is all quite silly.

Nobody wants to talk about how she is 10 years past her expiring date for the sport. She has grabbed on to more years due to using power to overwhelm her opponents and also he fact that woman's tennis has been a barren desert with weak competition the past few years.

I don't get it. We rally that women should have kids and be mothers, Serena does this yet we still stomp on her. There are more nasty women to hold harsh criticism at.

I don't care much for whatever else she does. I don't hear spew political nonsense. All she does is play tennis and obsseses about being respected for what she has done.
She is a tame woman compared some of the other nasty trash like Lena Dunham we have in the moderm culture at the moment.

To be frank I don't see much of a difference to how she had looked before she had her child. It's not like she got fat during/after pregnancy, she's been quite thick for a while. Just look at some of her photos from 2016: (also google tells me her child was born last September, so not a few months but a whole year ago)

[Trumpian]

She really struggles at Wimbledon because she slid all over the place like it was a clay court. Rumor is they had to re-seed the court everytime she played.

[Bienvenuto]

(09-09-2018 11:26 AM)kosko Wrote:  

(09-09-2018 10:49 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

(09-09-2018 10:30 AM)Abelard Lindsey Wrote:  

Compare Serena from 2001 with her in 2018.

Needs pics. She was in the Sarah Connor T2 zone in 2001 but still clearly a woman.



The big difference now is her torso seems to have widened by a foot and her thighs and ass have become comically huge.



I'd hesitate to call her fat or out of shape but this sort of bulky physique won't perform well in anything other than football or weightlifting. You need SPEED on the court to catch that ball and that is why she's losing.

She just has a damn kid months ago...

I get that most find her ugly but this obsession about her masculine traits is all quite silly.

Nobody wants to talk about how she is 10 years past her expiring date for the sport. She has grabbed on to more years due to using power to overwhelm her opponents and also he fact that woman's tennis has been a barren desert with weak competition the past few years.

I don't get it. We rally that women should have kids and be mothers, Serena does this yet we still stomp on her. There are more nasty women to hold harsh criticism at.

I don't care much for whatever else she does. I don't hear spew political nonsense. All she does is play tennis and obsseses about being respected for what she has done.
She is a tame woman compared some of the other nasty trash like Lena Dunham we have in the moderm culture at the moment.

Agree and disagree, she has been a gigantic ass-and-thighed monster for many years - and yet someone had a go at me a while back for saying that she wasn't attractive? - ..motherhood was not the catalyst.

I was thinking whilst watching this -- she's rattled in this game and she can't rectify this situation and she can't handle that.
She's coming to the end of a great career and its not pretty.

"You're a liar and a thief."
"You owe me an apology."
"You will never officiate one of my matches again."
The only real response should be - 'yeah Im sorry, I lost it, happens to the best of us.'

good luck to her but.. this is just a problem of the sporting elites - too much drug use, too much training and competition, too much media scrutiny, the list goes on, for years and years .. she is another alien with strange over-pushy parents whose kinks (a la Britney) are beginning to show as her competitive youth fades.

And if you ask me they don't just play too much - they play each other too much. Same match ups. Again an again. All the time..
Was never like that back in the day.

someone should do a study :cat-lady:

[Kona]

She's married to the guy that owns Reddit.

Is he a (((JEW))) I can't seem to do firm by Googling.

If so this outburst of hers was a staged attack to push their agenda.

Aloha!

[debeguiled]

Ho hum. This is just typical SJW behavior. No different from Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Their basic assumption is: "I'm a better person than you."

So when they get caught out, they can't back down, because you are below them. It would be like handing the steering wheel over to a bee that flew in your car window.

Unthinkable.

In their minds life is like this: I get what I want, and if not, I shame you, you surrender, and I get what I want.

It always works.

So when it doesn't, they can't cope, they start giving direct commands, making insane proclamations and boasts, destroying things.

What most people do is start with negotiation and work their way up to drawing their pistol. These people start with their (emotional) pistols drawn, and have nowhere to retreat to, they have to double down.

That is why mockery is such an effective tool against them. It is inconceivable to them or their followers that they are mockable.

So if you mock them it is the ultimate true colors moment.

They lose their minds to gutteral invective.

If you don't believe me, check out the Twitter activity of this aging (((brown))) male college professor on Twitter.

He is tearing them up. Hope he doesn't lose tenure.

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[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(09-09-2018 09:55 AM)MajorStyles Wrote:  

(09-09-2018 06:46 AM)Horus Wrote:  

(09-08-2018 11:38 PM)MajorStyles Wrote:  

Why would I give a shit about women's tennis?

That's a slippery slope, good Horus. When a society is controlled by Cultural Marxism, we cannot applaud female athletes. Just look at how the media will shoehorn the Mary Sue into everything: i.e. action movies, children's cartoons, commercials, etc. They turn a positive into a negative. Now we have American girls that prefer soccer to cosmetics. Very dangerous.

As a general rule, applaud a woman that shines in domestic affairs. That's where she can benefit a society the most; and simultaneously, that's where the majority of women find their greatest happiness.

Remember that most women do not respect a man's praise. Therefore, we should be very miserly with our compliments. Let's reserve the compliments for women that are dutiful housewives and mothers: the rest of the women will follow suit, since they are followers by nature.

Jeez, you can't even post a simple "WB" anymore without it being interpreted as a political statement...

[nomadbrah]

(09-09-2018 10:59 AM)monsquid Wrote:  

Male or female most athletes reach their peak in their mid 30s.

Nope, not at all true for women, who frequently peak in their late teens.

[Hypno]

(09-09-2018 11:26 AM)kosko Wrote:  

She just has a damn kid months ago...

I get that most find her ugly but this obsession about her masculine traits is all quite silly.

Nobody wants to talk about how she is 10 years past her expiring date for the sport. She has grabbed on to more years due to using power to overwhelm her opponents and also he fact that woman's tennis has been a barren desert with weak competition the past few years.

I don't get it. We rally that women should have kids and be mothers, Serena does this yet we still stomp on her. There are more nasty women to hold harsh criticism at.

I don't care much for whatever else she does. I don't hear spew political nonsense. All she does is play tennis and obsseses about being respected for what she has done.
She is a tame woman compared some of the other nasty trash like Lena Dunham we have in the moderm culture at the moment.

Her appearance matters here because she plays the female gender card but doesn't appear to be a female. If you are born a female and take as much steriods and testosterone as a pro wrestler, are you still female? Is it an accomplishment to win on the ladies' circuit?

People aren't criticizing her because she is fat after having given birth, but rather because she has more muscle than most men. Her before and after pictures are worse than Barry Bonds. She should have the same damn asterisk that he does.

[Kona]

Well dudes, after careful research, I'm taking Serena Williams side.

Here's a minority (arguably) female athlete who's risen to the top of the white man's game. Just like Tiger Woods did.

To be penalized over that thief comment is ridiculous. People get worked up in sports, and talk some trash. Big deal. However, in these reserved and we'll mannered sports, the first chance they get to take you down, they jump all over it. Just like Tiger and his wife cheating. You think other professional golfers didn't cheat on their wives? You think other tennis player didn't say way worse things to the ref? Come on.

Breaking the racket is wrong, but that shit happens. She didn't use any foul language, she insulted a guy that appears to me to be a bigger birch than she is.

Also, I think it's hilarious that to settle the dispute the had to call some other white people out of the back. I

None the less, up until this point, I thought Venus and Serena were twins.

So I say good job Serena williams. Wether.it seemed tantrumy or not, she's right that men do a lot worse, in tennis and other sports. She standing by her beliefs, like a real man.

Aloha!

[Repo]

I dont know alot about tennis, but I know if I guy told that to a ref in basketball he'd get an immediate technical.

[1RationalDoc]

That was the most B.S thing i ever heard.