[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-03-2018 02:49 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

This woman's life and her choices are a case study for the justification of traditional patriarchy, a system which would have prevented her from being seduced by the lies of the sirens of sexual liberation. Imagine how different this woman would feel today at 37 if, instead of starting her long ride on the cock carousel at 18, she had instead married a good, promising young man her father approved of and began to have children. By 25 she would have had 4-5 children and feel the natural fulfillment and meaning of motherhood that underlies all healthy female psychology. And today at 37 her children would be teenagers, shortly adults. She would still have plenty of time then to pursue a career in whatever she wanted.

The funny part is that Western society only partly kept women restrained. If a girl absolutely wanted to become an attention whore, a famous mistress to a wealthy man or royal, then that was her freedom. Her family and father may have shunned her then, but she was free to reject the wisdom and guidance of her family. The Amish to this day have this wise system - their women can leave their home, become strippers and porn stars if they want, they can try and emulate the SATC lifestyle. But most return and settle with a good Amish boy.

Women are herd animals and the patriarchy is the gentle shepherd - but just someone with iron rules.

As for this one - I am not so sure whether she wouldn't have chosen the full hypergamy lifestyle even in saner times. She regrets it now, but that is like a lottery winner who regrets blasting through all his fortune in a few years.

[MrLemon]

(06-03-2018 10:13 AM)therajraj Wrote:  

I don't think she really lost.

She will probably get married, receive financial support from her beta hubby, eventually divorce rape him for indefinite support and resume riding alpha cock of men in their 50s and 60s.

Her memories of alpha induced sexual thrills will be her most cherished memories until death.

It's really only a loss if she wanted a family which I did not see any mention of children

All women want children. 200 million years of evolution is in charge. Every single DNA in every cell in their body is screaming for children. If they deny it, of course they are lying.

[Thot Leader]

(06-03-2018 03:38 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(06-03-2018 10:13 AM)therajraj Wrote:  

I don't think she really lost.

She will probably get married, receive financial support from her beta hubby, eventually divorce rape him for indefinite support and resume riding alpha cock of men in their 50s and 60s.

Her memories of alpha induced sexual thrills will be her most cherished memories until death.

It's really only a loss if she wanted a family which I did not see any mention of children

All women want children. 200 million years of evolution is in charge. Every single DNA in every cell in their body is screaming for children. If they deny it, of course they are lying.

This. This is the whole crux of everything. Roosh has said repeatedly that western women can't lose, there are no consequences for them. I think this is true and have seen it repeatedly, where women I or my friends were involved with have betrayed their men and been sluts, hypergamous, etc. But most of these women are still childless well into their 30s, or are single moms (and we know what kind of life outcomes they and their kids tend to have).

So yeah, not having kids (or having them but not being able to raise them well) is the only price women will have to pay.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

< She lost. The only thing that saved her was to eject from the NYC environment and go away into the corporate world. But not much changed aside from that, since the main reason she left NYC was because all her fame projects went nowhere, all her TV projects did not get picked up and making six digits in New York probably did not leave her any savings anyway.

Now she is internally scarred by the Alpha men she had and she has to force herself to settle with a Beta schmuck who makes her toes crawl.

The woman only did not lose in terms of finances, that she could easily use her previous experiences to get an even better paid corporate job - that is no surprise. Women can succeed in our current feminist anti-male environment better. And she can still get a husband who will love her. Though she lost admittedly because it did not make her happy and she clearly admits that she would have done it differently.

Women in our times try to live like men, because if she were a 36yo successful guy who had dated a few hundred women, then he could now happily settle with a hot 22yo girl and be happy as a clam. If a woman does the same, then she is an inner trainwreck.

[MrLemon]

(06-03-2018 03:45 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  

So yeah, not having kids (or having them but not being able to raise them well) is the only price women will have to pay.

But that price is oblivion. It will crush their minds under waves of self-hatred and grief. They have failed to "live". Without children their entire purpose in life is failed.

Eventually this will drive them completely insane, and from thence to pure evil and hatred of all children.

That crazy cat lady? She's one step from mass murder at any time. If she's waiting at a stoplight in her car and the crosswalk is full of toddlers coming back to the day care center, I promise you she's thinking bad thoughts. Her pupils narrow, her lips twist downward just a little. She's breathing shallowly and tapping the accelerator with her ethically-sourced Danish walking sandals. She's trying to keep control. Just barrrrrely keeping control.

There are hundreds of millions of these creatures in the western world, and they vote every day to hurt families, hurt children, and hurt normality. They want revenge for their barren wombs.

[Cobra]

Well, while cats can't fill barren wombs, they can fill barren rooms.

[renotime]

New York City is where ovaries go to die.

[gework]

(06-03-2018 02:39 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

My jewdar is pinging. Can anyone confirm her (((tribe)))?

That's a very sensitive piece of apparatus you have there. Her father is paternally German and the mother Anglo. I think you're picking up on the residuals.

(06-03-2018 03:38 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

All women want children. 200 million years of evolution is in charge. Every single DNA in every cell in their body is screaming for children. If they deny it, of course they are lying.

Every one of our ancestors procreated. Then came liberals...

(06-03-2018 05:57 PM)renotime Wrote:  

New York City is where ovaries go to die.

And that's not all.



Likely she's packed off a couple of hearses of her own.

[Rotten]

Quick reminder that the Sex and the City book was part cautionary tale.

Even On the very first page, the author wrote that finding a normal life and husband in the city was an impossibility.

But this aspect of the book was ignored when the HBO series was made. The actresses cast were almost two decades older than their characters. The Tv show featured an NYC that was an endless parade of alpha male. Written by gay men, the show has the women live the lives of gay men.

Every Gen X woman who grew up idolizing that show is still single and lives with a toy dog.

Bushnell, the author, was only able to land a beta male gold digger with her 60 million dollar Sex and the City Fortune, an unhappy nine year marriage that ended when her husband left her for a former ballerina.

PS. If a woman starts appearing on Bravo reality TV shows, like Allison and Bushnell, they are about to get divorced.

[CynicalContrarian]

(06-03-2018 03:38 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

All women want children. 200 million years of evolution is in charge. Every single DNA in every cell in their body is screaming for children. If they deny it, of course they are lying.

Ask a chick to give a genuinely logical reason why they want kids & they probably would not be able to.
They may talk about family, legacy & all manner of other secondary notions.

Yet ultimately, they wouldn't be able to give a logical answer cause the desire for kids is nigh on subconscious.
As you say, they're compelled at a level well before human reason, but it is to their folly that they allow their (lack of) reason to get in the way.

[Brahman]

She went to my high school (3 years younger than me)

New Trier high school, winnetka, Illinois (rich suburb of Chicago)

Totally lol’d seeing this

She briefly dated a guy I know who created the game that zynga bought for like 20 million

[RatInTheWoods]

WB and let loose, but only because I have had a vasectomy.

[Thot Leader]

(06-03-2018 05:34 PM)MrLemon Wrote:  

(06-03-2018 03:45 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  

So yeah, not having kids (or having them but not being able to raise them well) is the only price women will have to pay.

But that price is oblivion. It will crush their minds under waves of self-hatred and grief. They have failed to "live". Without children their entire purpose in life is failed.

Eventually this will drive them completely insane, and from thence to pure evil and hatred of all children.

That crazy cat lady? She's one step from mass murder at any time. If she's waiting at a stoplight in her car and the crosswalk is full of toddlers coming back to the day care center, I promise you she's thinking bad thoughts. Her pupils narrow, her lips twist downward just a little. She's breathing shallowly and tapping the accelerator with her ethically-sourced Danish walking sandals. She's trying to keep control. Just barrrrrely keeping control.

There are hundreds of millions of these creatures in the western world, and they vote every day to hurt families, hurt children, and hurt normality. They want revenge for their barren wombs.

Historically this is entirely accurate. But things have changed. Women today have options well into older age. The old cat lady was a recluse; today even old fat hags have social media connections and opportunities for companionship. Male thirst is real, women will have suitors pursuing them into old age and beyond. Entertainment abounds.

Will all these creature comforts compensate for a lack of children in women's lives? No, but it will serve to anesthetize them, prevent them from ever having to look in the mirror. They will be miserable and unfulfilled but either won't know it, or they will but not know the cause of their misery. In this respect I can see the spinster bubble lasting until such time as society declines to the point it can no longer provide for women's basic economic needs.

[Thot Leader]

(06-03-2018 06:26 PM)gework Wrote:  

(06-03-2018 05:57 PM)renotime Wrote:  

New York City is where ovaries go to die.

And that's not all.

The west village, where Carrie Bradshaw's apartment was in one of the few red zones in wealthy Manhattan. The black areas seem pretty red too.

[KMK]

She's 37. By that age fertility has slightly declined but is still far above "gone." 2 minutes of googling says that if she tries hard to conceive a baby with her betabux, there's about a 70% chance she'll succeed. For a 20's woman it's 90ish%.

Early to mid 40s is when it starts to look truly hopeless.

Her crisis is "I aged out of being able to secure commitment from a top tier man", not "I can't have kids anymore."

[Player_1337]

Chick sounds like an egomaniac bitch.

[KMK]

(06-03-2018 02:49 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

Imagine how different this woman would feel today at 37 if, instead of starting her long ride on the cock carousel at 18, she had instead married a good, promising young man her father approved of and began to have children.

What if that option was never available to her?

How likely do you think it is that this particular woman has a father who would have picked a good husband for her?

If you're a father that wants to pick a good husband for your daughter, you have to make a best guess based off of a few meetings with suitors who are always trying to put their best foot forward in front of you. This is a very difficult task that most men aren't cut out for. It can be rendered impossible by any of - being blue pill about human nature, being unlucky enough to meet a clever social manipulator at the wrong time, being a short tempered prick who chases off good men over trivial slights, or just plain not caring who your daughter marries.

Lots of young women out there who have no access to guidance towards a good suitor. They have to wing it, and winging it with any degree of competence means building up lots of life experience with men first, and building up lots of life experience with men means a few years of carousel.

The happiest, healthiest families I know all have a mother that conceived her first kid in her mid to late 20s.

Bit of a tangent, I know the woman in the OP is far past that age, but I disagree strongly with the idea that all women marrying and conceiving ASAP is good for society.

The daughters of high-IQ, family-future-minded red pill men should marry ASAP.

The rest should wait 5-10 years (good compromise between societal health and personal happiness), or skip marriage and reproduction altogether (best for societal health, but miserable personally, a hardcore form of taking one for the team.)

[jeffreyjerpp]

The problem isn't this one outrageous slut....the problem is that every other young woman is becoming an outrageous slut, too.

My question is this: is there a non-authoritarian solution to this problem? Jordan Peterson hinted with his "enforced monogamy" comment that the answer might be no.* We are quickly nearing a crisis point of social alienation, demographic decline, and an overturn of the rule of law via false rape accusations. If there is some way of getting women to voluntarily renounce their increasingly toxic, whorish behavior, and become the virtuous pillars of home and community they ought to be, I would love to hear it.

Otherwise, we face a very stark and grave reality. I should be sad about it, but I am not. I have seen how cruelly women treat men they view as "beneath" them. I have seen how proudly they cheer the destruction of the rule of law, if it means additional social status and sexual privileges for them. How easily women ignore social stability and the welfare of children in favor of their own petty interests. Their righteous indignation towards the best President our country has had in decades, because he said some true words about their sexual nature that made them sad.

One thing I have never seen is women exercise good judgment on a large scale.

*My persuasion radar also went off when he said this. I think he may have greater ambitions than being a self help author/psychiatrist. Jordan Peterson for President of Gilead?

[jeffreyjerpp]

(06-03-2018 11:33 PM)KMK Wrote:  

.....but I disagree strongly with the idea that all women marrying and conceiving ASAP is good for society.

This is a good point, actually. Demanding that women never date, only sleep with the exact first man they marry, and then ultimately produce a healthy/loving home with their partner is unrealistic. A healthy society needs an emotionally healthy home life to function, like a strong spine in a healthy body.

A functional plan would be to encourage kids ages 16+ to have monogamous dating and sexual relationships, but legally require women to be married by age 26, or else they will be married to the state and enter a public service nunnery on the periphery of society. Get rid of no-fault divorce and make alimony very difficult to receive except in cases of egregious misconduct (husband is physically abusive, using hard drugs, abandons family, etc). Test children at birth to make sure they belong to the father. Write laws that make it illegal to propagandize "alternative" lifestyles. If women are found to be unfaithful, public shaming done Cersei style.

Also, we probably need to limit the number of low IQ children born (perhaps a one child policy for couples with an average IQ under 100). Then provide large incentives for couples with high average IQs to have as many children as possible.

Those are my ideas, anyways.

[azuzuru]

Quote:

We were all invited by a 40-something billionaire to his Miami mansion; he even sent his private jet for us. It was just him, the three of us and his butler and chef. I don’t think this man was used to being told no, and he started chasing me around his mansion. I finally had to lock myself in the bathroom.

I don't believe that for a second. Who does she think she's kidding?

Given her loose lifestyle and experience, she knew exactly what she was getting into. She did some lines and banged that man, and so did her friends.

But she can't say that publicly. She might lose her [idiot] "reasonable" boring beta man.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(06-04-2018 01:58 AM)azuzuru Wrote:  

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We were all invited by a 40-something billionaire to his Miami mansion; he even sent his private jet for us. It was just him, the three of us and his butler and chef. I don’t think this man was used to being told no, and he started chasing me around his mansion. I finally had to lock myself in the bathroom.

I don't believe that for a second. Who does she think she's kidding?

Given her loose lifestyle and experience, she knew exactly what she was getting into. She did some lines and banged that man, and so did her friends.

But she can't say that publicly. She might lose her [idiot] "reasonable" boring beta man.

Nah - billions don't teach you Game. He flew over all 3 of the girls that were working and socializing together on the show. They all thought that they are going to be reality TV stars. Maybe they thought that he was interested in some project or if he were a beast with Game, then he should have tried seducing them and then focusing on the one most willing. That might have worked - charming them all and then banging one. If he had invited one of them over for a date, then this is a different thing, but he cock-blocked himself by bringing all 3 making life more difficult (because if he even slightly mis-calibrated the meetup then the girls start talking and laughing at him - even pity-fucking him would be a loss of face to either one of those girls as the other ones would know that she banged).

So it was dumb - Game-less bloke should have invited one and banged. Then one month later invited the second one. Heck - he could have done the same with the third and fucked them all - just not at the same time.

And keep in mind that those women were not some Bombay street urchins or Ukrainian rural girls - they were already dating NFL multi-millionaires and sons of billionaires - so a billionaire was not that special at least to those 3 at that time.

[godzilla]

(06-03-2018 10:04 PM)Thot Leader Wrote:  

(06-03-2018 06:26 PM)gework Wrote:  

(06-03-2018 05:57 PM)renotime Wrote:  

New York City is where ovaries go to die.

And that's not all.

The west village, where Carrie Bradshaw's apartment was in one of the few red zones in wealthy Manhattan. The black areas seem pretty red too.

The red zones in Manhattan are likely where there is more project housing. More poverty usually equals higher abortion rates. Rich liberal bitches always got birth control.

[Tex Cruise]

(06-03-2018 02:49 PM)scorpion Wrote:  

"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." - Isaiah 3:12

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13 The Lord standeth up to plead, and standeth to judge the people.

14 The Lord will enter into judgment with the ancients of his people, and the princes thereof: for ye have eaten up the vineyard; the spoil of the poor is in your houses.

15 What mean ye that ye beat my people to pieces, and grind the faces of the poor? saith the Lord God of hosts.

16 Moreover the Lord saith, Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, and walk with stretched forth necks and wanton eyes, walking and mincing as they go, and making a tinkling with their feet:

17 Therefore the Lord will smite with a scab the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion, and the Lord will discover their secret parts.

18 In that day the Lord will take away the bravery of their tinkling ornaments about their feet, and their cauls, and their round tires like the moon,

19 The chains, and the bracelets, and the mufflers,

20 The bonnets, and the ornaments of the legs, and the headbands, and the tablets, and the earrings,

21 The rings, and nose jewels,

22 The changeable suits of apparel, and the mantles, and the wimples, and the crisping pins,

23 The glasses, and the fine linen, and the hoods, and the vails.

24 And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty.

25 Thy men shall fall by the sword, and thy mighty in the war.

26 And her gates shall lament and mourn; and she being desolate shall sit upon the ground.

[JekyllAndHyde]

Well it takes two to tango for love explosions to occur as mentioned by Borat.
wa wa we wa.

Anyway last I searched, New York has a competitive PUA scene despite the abundance of hypergamic females.

(06-03-2018 09:51 AM)nola Wrote:  

The entitlement is strong in this one. Kudo's to all the men in her past that dodged that bullet. Someone needs to find her current boyfriend and explain to him he needs to stop being so fucking reasonable. This girl literally went Mrs. Cleo and published what his future is going to look like. Divorce rape is right around the corner when she decides she needs to go find herself again using his 401k. I also predict she'll take another oath of "celibacy" after the wedding. Mr. Big will still be blowing lines out of her ass crack and warming her up to say she's too tired or not in the mood to Mr. Reasonable.

Next she'll proclaim that she found the holy saviour and becomes a born again virgin.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(06-04-2018 07:49 AM)JekyllAndHyde Wrote:  

Well it takes two to tango for love explosions to occur as mentioned by Borat.
wa wa we wa.

Anyway last I searched, New York has a competitive PUA scene despite the abundance of hypergamic females.

(06-03-2018 09:51 AM)nola Wrote:  

The entitlement is strong in this one. Kudo's to all the men in her past that dodged that bullet. Someone needs to find her current boyfriend and explain to him he needs to stop being so fucking reasonable. This girl literally went Mrs. Cleo and published what his future is going to look like. Divorce rape is right around the corner when she decides she needs to go find herself again using his 401k. I also predict she'll take another oath of "celibacy" after the wedding. Mr. Big will still be blowing lines out of her ass crack and warming her up to say she's too tired or not in the mood to Mr. Reasonable.

Next she'll proclaim that she found the holy saviour and becomes a born again virgin.

Or a born again vegan. Lecture people about sexuality these days and they roll their eyes. But lecture them about food and "cruelty to animals/rescues" and you become a Mini Messiah who can judge everyone else as sinners.

I can't even begin to tell you the amount of women I know who got old and became unbearably preachy vegans. When they can't control you with their tits anymore, they try to control you through social shaming.