[James Bond Next level]

With all the laws tightening around the heterosexual white male and the ever increasing demographic of muslims, a conflict is bound to happen in the west sooner or later. In the end, I think we will prevail, but unimaginable horrors will happen at the start.

Personally, I have tried to warn people, but they had either already the same opinion (a minority) or don't care/don't want to know/are scared (the majority). Now I think it's hopeless (in western EU at least) and besides, do you really wanna fight for gays/sluts/cucks or whatever who despise you? Maybe they ought to try their own medicine. So I prefer to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Hence, this thread is dedicated to discuss options, how can we prepare now so if a serious problem arise (police state, muslim revolution, civil war, economic crisis, etc) we can leave and build a new life far away in relative peace.

1 - Weapons

• Fist/feet: boxing/MMA classes seems a good idea
• knives: free to buy and easily concealable
• Guns: learning how to shoot and acquiring guns. The latter can be done, but it's not easy depending on the country
  

2 - Protection

• bulletproof vest: free to buy
• medical kit: with rudimentary classes, a must
  

3 - food
Several bottle of water are the minimum from what I can tell.

4 - Destination
An important point too: where to flee in emergency situations? I think it should be at least not in EU nor north america. If possible, a country with no extradition, because who knows what a corrupt government can invent.
My ideas so far:

• moldova/ukraine: are actively seeking to join EU, so not sure
• belarus/russia
• colombia: famous for the non-extradition
  

I'm looking to acquire a foreign passport as well, don't know where though.

5 - Money
Maybe the most difficult and most crucial point. Because even if you manage to flee abroad with your potential family, what do you do after?
Some ideas:

• have some cash/a small quantity of gold: even if money is worthless, it will still be enough to buy say a plane ticket or whatever
• become rich, because the rich always have more options than the rest
• opening a bank account abroad, so you can transfer everything on it quickly.
  

The last point and the passport are my main concerns. Ideally, it would be a national bank unreachable by foreign countries so that the relocation is as discreet and safe as possible.

[jeffreyjerpp]

(05-29-2018 08:24 AM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  

With all the laws tightening around the heterosexual white male and the ever increasing demographic of muslims, a conflict is bound to happen in the west sooner or later. In the end, I think we will prevail, but unimaginable horrors will happen at the start.

Personally, I have tried to warn people, but they had either already the same opinion (a minority) or don't care/don't want to know/are scared (the majority). Now I think it's hopeless (in western EU at least) and besides, do you really wanna fight for gays/sluts/cucks or whatever who despise you? Maybe they ought to try their own medicine. So I prefer to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Hence, this thread is dedicated to discuss options, how can we prepare now so if a serious problem arise (police state, muslim revolution, civil war, economic crisis, etc) we can leave and build a new life far away in relative peace.

1 - Weapons

• Fist/feet: boxing/MMA classes seems a good idea
• knives: free to buy and easily concealable
• Guns: learning how to shoot and acquiring guns. The latter can be done, but it's not easy depending on the country
  

2 - Protection

• bulletproof vest: free to buy
• medical kit: with rudimentary classes, a must
  

3 - food
Several bottle of water are the minimum from what I can tell.

4 - Destination
An important point too: where to flee in emergency situations? I think it should be at least not in EU nor north america. If possible, a country with no extradition, because who knows what a corrupt government can invent.
My ideas so far:

• moldova/ukraine: are actively seeking to join EU, so not sure
• belarus/russia
• colombia: famous for the non-extradition
  

I'm looking to acquire a foreign passport as well, don't know where though.

5 - Money
Maybe the most difficult and most crucial point. Because even if you manage to flee abroad with your potential family, what do you do after?
Some ideas:

• have some cash/a small quantity of gold: even if money is worthless, it will still be enough to buy say a plane ticket or whatever
• become rich, because the rich always have more options than the rest
• opening a bank account abroad, so you can transfer everything on it quickly.
  

The last point and the passport are my main concerns. Ideally, it would be a national bank unreachable by foreign countries so that the relocation is as discreet and safe as possible.

I have given serious thought to this, and agree that we are generally entering an "emergency" period. There is obvious social unrest building, and the world financial system is on the brink of a debt collapse.

You can basically ignore most of the items on your list besides location. When it comes to surviving a crisis period, it is like real estate: LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.

If you are reduced to gun fights and water bottles, your emergency preparation was pretty terrible, and you will probably die soon. I have read accounts of collapses like this, and living conditions were horrifying beyond what you can imagine.

The key is to absolutely, positively, be very far away from wherever the violence and chaos is. Some criteria to consider:

1) Population density: the less people per square mile, the better.
2) Accessibility: how easy is it for roving mobs to find where you are, assault you, and take your stuff?
3) Population: do people own guns, and value the rule of law?
4) Population part 2: are there lots of dangerous minority groups? Will you fit in wherever you go?

[jeffreyjerpp]

(05-29-2018 08:24 AM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  

With all the laws tightening around the heterosexual white male and the ever increasing demographic of muslims, a conflict is bound to happen in the west sooner or later. In the end, I think we will prevail, but unimaginable horrors will happen at the start.

Personally, I have tried to warn people, but they had either already the same opinion (a minority) or don't care/don't want to know/are scared (the majority). Now I think it's hopeless (in western EU at least) and besides, do you really wanna fight for gays/sluts/cucks or whatever who despise you? Maybe they ought to try their own medicine. So I prefer to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Hence, this thread is dedicated to discuss options, how can we prepare now so if a serious problem arise (police state, muslim revolution, civil war, economic crisis, etc) we can leave and build a new life far away in relative peace.

1 - Weapons

• Fist/feet: boxing/MMA classes seems a good idea
• knives: free to buy and easily concealable
• Guns: learning how to shoot and acquiring guns. The latter can be done, but it's not easy depending on the country
  

2 - Protection

• bulletproof vest: free to buy
• medical kit: with rudimentary classes, a must
  

3 - food
Several bottle of water are the minimum from what I can tell.

4 - Destination
An important point too: where to flee in emergency situations? I think it should be at least not in EU nor north america. If possible, a country with no extradition, because who knows what a corrupt government can invent.
My ideas so far:

• moldova/ukraine: are actively seeking to join EU, so not sure
• belarus/russia
• colombia: famous for the non-extradition
  

I'm looking to acquire a foreign passport as well, don't know where though.

5 - Money
Maybe the most difficult and most crucial point. Because even if you manage to flee abroad with your potential family, what do you do after?
Some ideas:

• have some cash/a small quantity of gold: even if money is worthless, it will still be enough to buy say a plane ticket or whatever
• become rich, because the rich always have more options than the rest
• opening a bank account abroad, so you can transfer everything on it quickly.
  

The last point and the passport are my main concerns. Ideally, it would be a national bank unreachable by foreign countries so that the relocation is as discreet and safe as possible.

The banking system is coming down. Your best bet is bitcoin/litecoin/gold/silver, imho.

armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/sovereign-debt-crisis/a-global-systemic-collapse-opportunity-risk/

zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-29/everything-has-gone-wrong-soros-warns-major-financial-crisis-coming

[Leonard D Neubache]

Anywhere you're fleeing to has to have the highest bedrock of respect for law and order, regardless of nation of origin.

Too many Westerners get comfortable with the idea that they can flee to a second or third world country if the West goes to shit, but they don't seem to realise that the only reason they don't get robbed and murdered in foreign nations is because of their current status as first worlders and the money that will dry up if too many 1st worlders stop going there because it's not safe enough (for 1st worlders)

From what I understand you can see this in places like Brazil where the common criminals know not to go out of their way to target tourists or the police will come down on them hard. Tourism is money.

But if the West undergoes a serious sort of collapse then tourist money means jack squat and that additional protection you get for not being a local is suddenly flipped on its head and you're a prime target.

Places like Japan are good. If you were the last white man alive on earth and you were in Japan you wouldn't be murdered, you'd actually be swimming in Japanese pussy. Meanwhile if you were the last white man alive on earth and you were living in Colombia then your extradition-free status would be the last thing on your mind.

Sorry for stealing your lines, Zel.

[James Bond Next level]

(05-29-2018 11:52 AM)jeffreyjerpp Wrote:  

I have given serious thought to this, and agree that we are generally entering an "emergency" period. There is obvious social unrest building, and the world financial system is on the brink of a debt collapse.

You can basically ignore most of the items on your list besides location. When it comes to surviving a crisis period, it is like real estate: LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION.

If you are reduced to gun fights and water bottles, your emergency preparation was pretty terrible, and you will probably die soon. I have read accounts of collapses like this, and living conditions were horrifying beyond what you can imagine.

The key is to absolutely, positively, be very far away from wherever the violence and chaos is. Some criteria to consider:

1) Population density: the less people per square mile, the better.
2) Accessibility: how easy is it for roving mobs to find where you are, assault you, and take your stuff?
3) Population: do people own guns, and value the rule of law?
4) Population part 2: are there lots of dangerous minority groups? Will you fit in wherever you go?

I should have explained: the items are just for the time between when you recognize the crisis and when you arrive at the new destination, so typically 24h to 4 days. Nobody can live even medium-term by staying in the west, even if they are in the most remote place.

(05-29-2018 10:07 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Anywhere you're fleeing to has to have the highest bedrock of respect for law and order, regardless of nation of origin.

Too many Westerners get comfortable with the idea that they can flee to a second or third world country if the West goes to shit, but they don't seem to realise that the only reason they don't get robbed and murdered in foreign nations is because of their current status as first worlders and the money that will dry up if too many 1st worlders stop going there because it's not safe enough (for 1st worlders)

From what I understand you can see this in places like Brazil where the common criminals know not to go out of their way to target tourists or the police will come down on them hard. Tourism is money.

But if the West undergoes a serious sort of collapse then tourist money means jack squat and that additional protection you get for not being a local is suddenly flipped on its head and you're a prime target.

Places like Japan are good. If you were the last white man alive on earth and you were in Japan you wouldn't be murdered, you'd actually be swimming in Japanese pussy. Meanwhile if you were the last white man alive on earth and you were living in Colombia then your extradition-free status would be the last thing on your mind.

Sorry for stealing your lines, Zel.

Interesting point of view. However I think you generalize too much: Brazil and Colombia I agree, but some 2nd/3rd world countries are not just a band of murderers waiting for us. I agree that we can never be seen as a local, but if you make real efforts to integrate into their society, you will be at least tolerated. Besides, keep in mind it is in case of emergency, so drastic time=drastic measure.

Japan is a bad choice, even if there is no direct crisis inside, the island is overpopulated. So when shit hit the fan elsewhere, food imports will likely stop. And since they import 25 B$ of food and export only 3,54B$ (source: https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/c...n/#Exports ), they will indirectly be affected too and fight among themselves for food.
A better option is ukraine: they export 2,56 B$ of food and import only 1,69 B$ (source: https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/ukr/ ), so they have a reasonable chance of being able to feed themselves.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Emergency relocation plan B - relocating to a safe and prosperous place.

[Montrose]

Contingency plans should be based on the scenarios you think likely. For example, an economic crisis is admittedly a problem, but survival is much more likely in your own country than abroad. Leaving France to be a refugee in Brazil because of an economic crisis is a bit far fetched. Also, famine is an extremely unlikely scenario. 500.000 died in the Syran Civil War, of which very few died of starvation, and those who did were in besieged areas, not because of low food production

Japan produces very little food, that is true, but it still produces 10 million tons of rice, which is enough to feed all its population 3000 calories a day, and that does not include potatoes etc... the organization of food distribution is much important than food production. If the world descends into anarchy, I’d rather be in Japan than in the Ukraine.

Preparations should be made in function of the most likely scenarios, not to prepare against everything including alien invasion.

To me, the most likely scenarios to be prepared against are:
1. Deteriorating security (more or less suddenly) in your city
2. A long civil war, with moderate or low level fighting and occasional massacres along the frontline. Example: Lebanese Civil War, Syrian Civil War, Yugoslavia
3. A short burst of extreme violence (Rwanda 1994, less plausible fall of Phom Penh 1975)
4. 6-month pandemic outbreak in your city
5. Nuclear attack or accident in your city

A long (more than 6 months) period of anarchy is extremely unlikely in my view. Power vacuums are rare. Someone is going to take charge, but it may not be your friends.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(05-30-2018 03:38 AM)James Bond Next level Wrote:  

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Interesting point of view. However I think you generalize too much: Brazil and Colombia I agree, but some 2nd/3rd world countries are not just a band of murderers waiting for us. I agree that we can never be seen as a local, but if you make real efforts to integrate into their society, you will be at least tolerated. Besides, keep in mind it is in case of emergency, so drastic time=drastic measure.

Japan is a bad choice, even if there is no direct crisis inside, the island is overpopulated. So when shit hit the fan elsewhere, food imports will likely stop. And since they import 25 B$ of food and export only 3,54B$ (source: https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/c...n/#Exports ), they will indirectly be affected too and fight among themselves for food.
A better option is ukraine: they export 2,56 B$ of food and import only 1,69 B$ (source: https://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/ukr/ ), so they have a reasonable chance of being able to feed themselves.

Different crisis' affect different areas in different ways.

It would be ill advised to set up shop in Ukraine to avoid famine. Ask Ukranians if they've ever had one before. Being anywhere in between Russia and the nearest regional US military base is a bad idea.

Japan would be bad in some disasters and less so in others. Every location has its ups and downs. Its strengths and its weaknesses.

New Zealand is probably the best location all things considered, as long as you keep your nose out of politics. It's sort of like Old England in a way but with more favourable gun laws. If the rest of the West went to hell then their parliament would quickly have to toss the PC marxist crap, and if they didn't they could be overthrown by a handful of farmers.

[The Catalyst]

(05-30-2018 04:27 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

New Zealand is probably the best location all things considered, as long as you keep your nose out of politics. It's sort of like Old England in a way but with more favourable gun laws. If the rest of the West went to hell then their parliament would quickly have to toss the PC marxist crap, and if they didn't they could be overthrown by a handful of farmers.

Man the world must be a bad place if people are seriously considering moving here.

[Leonard D Neubache]

It's the elasticity of the situation.

NZ's not super, but it wouldn't get much worse either.

[James Bond Next level]

(05-30-2018 04:27 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Different crisis' affect different areas in different ways.

It would be ill advised to set up shop in Ukraine to avoid famine. Ask Ukranians if they've ever had one before. Being anywhere in between Russia and the nearest regional US military base is a bad idea.

Japan would be bad in some disasters and less so in others. Every location has its ups and downs. Its strengths and its weaknesses.

New Zealand is probably the best location all things considered, as long as you keep your nose out of politics. It's sort of like Old England in a way but with more favourable gun laws. If the rest of the West went to hell then their parliament would quickly have to toss the PC marxist crap, and if they didn't they could be overthrown by a handful of farmers.

It reminded me an article I read about billionaires buying estate in new zealand : https://www.inquisitr.com/3950643/billio...pocalypse/

Quote:

The special attraction to New Zealand is that its a First World country located strategically thousands of miles away from the world’s geopolitical hotspots. New Zealand is far from the ravages of ISIS in the middle east, the growing social, political and economic tensions in Europe and North America, and the threat of confrontation between China and the U.S.

You add favorable gun laws, almost no language barrier, autonomy with food. Very good choice leonard! Will start to look closer into this country. It's no paradise of course, but it could be as you said a good compromise

[The Catalyst]

(05-30-2018 05:11 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

It's the elasticity of the situation.

NZ's not super, but it wouldn't get much worse either.

NZ's not super is the understatement of the century.

[The Black Knight]

No western country will be safe (including NZ) if you're honestly in desperate need of escaping from another western country; especially if you're a US citizen. ALL of them today are hostile to heterosexual red pill men; especially white men.

The USA, UK, Canada, Australia, Ireland, and the NZ (the big english speaking western countries) are filled to the brim with SJWs, militant libtards/feminists, and self-hating white people. The complete lack of due process and unethical-ness TODAY in these countries on various fronts from family courts, false accusations, and workplace intolerance in combination with importing 3rd world low class garbage likely means you will just end up trading one shade of dogshit at the end of the day vs another shade of dogshit.

That all said, parts of the USA is and will likely continue to be the overall best place to be IF you want to stay in a western country and hold your ground somewhere. TONS of open space, cheap resources, and well armed/funded anti-government types to group up with in flyover country to make a stand with. Trump has woke a lot of folks in the last two years and even if Trumpism candidates don't own the majority in the future post-Trump due to demographics (a very real possibility), it doesn't mean 60 million+ potential allies with land/resources suddenly stop existing.

Assuming you don't want to take a stand and escape the west entirely, I'd say some Asian countries are the best bet. Not perfect; just overall best. The economic pendulum has and will continue to swing towards Asia for the foreseeable future, risk of violent crime is relatively low, and being an actual red pill man who wants a feminine thin woman is not a crime but expected. No doubt there will tradeoffs like being culturally/socially isolated and language barriers (both of which can be overcome somewhat with intense effort) but where else you gonna go?

Africa? Fuck that. Latin America? Maybe parts of Chile and Uruguay. Maybe parts of central europe/EE but between the EU and migrants, who knows.

If you want to prepare to emigrate to another country as a possible escape, you should be doing your homework YEARS in advance:

1. Research countries for the basics (taxes, visas, citizenship, legal structures, average cost of goods, etc)

2. Visit country. Get vibe for the place. Re-visit several times to feel out deeper and see more variety. Get comfortable. Learn language/culture basics.

3. Make social connections/build network. Date only women from that country/region and open bank accounts if possible. Get some of your assets offshore/outside the reach as best possible of the IRS/local tax authority.

4. Start seriously learning the language/culture. You want to integrate as fast as possible.

Do this for at least 2-3 countries. You never know if Foreign County Escape Plan A will go to shit down the line and/or they close their borders. If you're rich, you can probably buy your way into any country you want. Obviously, the higher net worth you can attain, the greater your prospects will be.

Finally, if you can get a second passport (EU heritage ones are the easiest to get for many), consider getting it. US citizens are taxed on worldwide income (might change in the future since they went to territorial taxation recently for corporations) and having a second passport has numerous benefits aside from tax avoidance. Most importantly, if prevents your current country from keeping a lock on you. If shit is really going downhill, don't put it past the gov't to prevent people from leaving the country completely; either physically and/or financially; the latter which is already the case. Those fraud daycare welfare monies for 3rd world Muslims in America so they can fund terrorists in the middle east don't pay for themselves.

In a worst case situation, you could renounce your citizenship. Don't have another passport? You are fucked.

Again, the prep starts years in advance.

[BlueMark]

(05-30-2018 06:41 AM)The Black Knight Wrote:  

Assuming you don't want to take a stand and escape the west entirely, I'd say some Asian countries are the best bet. Not perfect; just overall best. The economic pendulum has and will continue to swing towards Asia for the foreseeable future, risk of violent crime is relatively low, and being an actual red pill man who wants a feminine thin woman is not a crime but expected. No doubt there will tradeoffs like being culturally/socially isolated and language barriers (both of which can be overcome somewhat with intense effort) but where else you gonna go?

For those who associate Asia with censorship or the things in this article, it's important to realize that Asia is not just CCP-controlled China and a bunch of third-world banana republics.

The fully developed part of Asia (Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore) offers a standard of living comparable to the West. English is even an official language in Hong Kong and Singapore.

See this map of IMF advanced economies. The highlighted parts of Asia look small but they are home to over 200 million people.

[Montrose]

When I was in Lebanon after the war, I talked to to the (Christian) mother of my friend about the events of 1975. She said: ‘I wanted to leave Beirut and move abroad, but my husband said ‘we’re not leaving! We’re not going to be like the Palestinians who left their homes with the key in their pocket. If we leave, we’ll never come back’. So they stayed and my friend went to school with a M-16. I will tell this story to my sons.

[ProGambler]

NZ would be the best place by a distance imo, Australia & Pacific islands strong too. A lot of places in rural Europe would be solid too. Sparsely populated with your own food and fuel supply that you can defend with guns.

[Leonard D Neubache]

I suppose it depends on whether you're betting on a totalitarian world order emerging where society remains functional but wrongthinkers are rounded up en masse,

or,

whether you're betting on a catastrophic collapse of civilisation in which 90% of the earth's population dies off within a year.

If you want to cover both then you're going to need two separate plans for two separate locations, because I can say with reasonable certainty that there is no single location suitable for both outcomes.

p.s. I agree that NZ is obviously a poor choice if you're betting on a totalitarian world government forming.

[Dalaran1991]

(05-29-2018 10:07 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

Too many Westerners get comfortable with the idea that they can flee to a second or third world country if the West goes to shit, but they don't seem to realise that the only reason they don't get robbed and murdered in foreign nations is because of their current status as first worlders and the money that will dry up if too many 1st worlders stop going there because it's not safe enough (for 1st worlders)
....

But if the West undergoes a serious sort of collapse then tourist money means jack squat and that additional protection you get for not being a local is suddenly flipped on its head and you're a prime target.

Would like to expand on what Leonard said. This is why, despite my ill sentiments for Vietnam, I'm always glad I could just grab my bag and fly back there when shit hit the fan in Europe.

But I doubt that you white boys can do the same.

I can't speak for Russia/Ukraine but I imagine it wouldn't be far off from the situation in Asia.

The white god factor exists due to the status and wealth associated with it. But the moment the West collapse, all that shine and light go down puff like smoke in the wind. To be replaced with a sentiment of vindication and enmity.

The truth of the matter is that everybody hates the white men, especially the Asian. They hate the status quo as it is. Black men are consider sub-humans even among some of my Vietnamese friends, and white men only receive the most grudging of respect/acceptance because they are more powerful economically and culturally. I'm not even talking about the Han Imperialists in China. Asians are among the least friendly people on earth but among the most practical/greedy (that's why you have it easy being a tourist there). Most Asians hate Asians from other countries, much less whites, and minus some exceptions their countries are very racially homogeneous and they want to keep it that way. Not to mention a lot of white cultural values clashes fiercely with the rigid, highly traditional structures of Asian societies. Do you know that Vietnam is among the hardest country to get citizenship?

A sense of enmity toward the white men have been growing for a long time in Asia and it's making itself known recently, as Asia experiences rapid growth. I was just there in April and I saw how even the white god factor is losing its shine. Once Europe falls and they get to be the top dogs, there will be none of this "refugees welcome" shit. Even in times of peace as it is right now the idea is that you want in, you gotta pay. So in time of war you will pay big or you will pay and you wont even get in. Think not for a moment that you can shelter there until shit blows over unless you got serious liquid assets with you, in which case most will try and rob you. Heck when I was there 3 weeks ago lotta assholes were trying to cheat me of my money, and I'm Vietnamese.

For the middle class daily life is already a constant struggle in most Asia countries, so imagine being a stranger there without the white god factor to help you. You would survive sure but it wont be no picnic, and if you are politically hunted rest assured the corrupted Asian governement or even the mafia here will hunt you down and hand you in for a hefty bounty.

Your best bet is to stock up on liquid asset and fly to a 1st world country who is politically neutral because Asia will be closed to you. I know jack shit about New Zealand but if its what Leonard makes it out to be then it's a safe bet.

That said, there's no reason shit will get THAT bad in our time yet. We have a few more decades to enjoy the decline.

[ProGambler]

Decades more to enjoy? I can't see the financial system making it past 2040 when technological unemployment becomes the norm.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Dalaran is obviously correct - predominantly white coutries in EE, also Belarus, Ukraine and maybe even Denmark and Finland - those are the ideal places of relocation when the West collapses. Otherwise it's also Argentina and Chile with a White majority. Asians won't treat you kindly if you are broke and a fleeing refugee from the formerly rich Western states.

When the world descends into clannish or religious civil war and collapse then the best survival mechanism is to group among your own kind. That is how successful people survived while others were massacred via one pen-stroke of a dictator and a majority who were ruthless. Hungary for example accepts already Westerners wanting to flee. Israel will accept you even if your wife has one Jewish grandparent.

There are many scenarios of what might happen in the future - planning ahead is not bad. The truly rich have houses on almost all continents and can change even citizenships or have special permits. This is not only for holiday reasons - they want to have additional survival options for their kin.

[TigerMandingo]

Nothing is collapsing anytime soon. You guys need to chill. I stepped outside today and it was a beautiful and sunny 80 degrees. People were walking, jogging and doing all kinds of shit outside. Bitches wearing tight jean shorts is a sight to behold as well. Yet some of you guys would have me believe that I need to start packing my shit cuz muh Islam.

It's like Sergey Shnurov said (russian rock musician) "everytime I log onto the internet the world is about to end. When I go outside things are fine"

[Simeon_Strangelight]

(05-30-2018 01:51 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

Nothing is collapsing anytime soon. You guys need to chill. I stepped outside today and it was a beautiful and sunny 80 degrees. People were walking, jogging and doing all kinds of shit outside. Bitches wearing tight jean shorts is a sight to behold as well. Yet some of you guys would have me believe that I need to start packing my shit cuz muh Islam.

It's like Sergey Shnurov said (russian rock musician) "everytime I log onto the internet the world is about to end. When I go outside things are fine"

There are times in history where things are about to go down.

I don't see that anywhere for now. The finances are also quite some time away to go truly worse. This is not Europe in the 1930s as of now. Back then many people sensed that shit is going to happen.

Currently it's hardly an issue. You have to adjust safety measures for Muslim- and African-inhabited areas, but that is just reaching US city life. Americans had been living under those conditions for a long time (in some cities and areas). Islamic terror is an added danger - prepping is not going to help you with it - learning a few Islamic texts in Arabic can help save your life.

There is currently no need to set up a bunker in New Zealand. The only country where things can deteriorate fast is South Africa for Whites - those buggers are one genocide away from extermination.

Even when things get real, then you usually have a few years warning. The Western Titanic is sinking slowly and it will take at least another 2 decades even in the worst Western countries.

[TigerMandingo]

(05-30-2018 03:20 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Islamic terror is an added danger - prepping is not going to help you with it - learning a few Islamic texts in Arabic can help save your life.

Wrong.

Quote:

A total of 3,370 residents of Belgium, France, Germany, Sweden, and the United Kingdom were murdered by terrorists from 1975 to June 20th, 2017. About 231 million people lived in those five countries in 2015. If they were combined into a single country, the annual chance of dying would be about 1 in 2.8 million per year over that period. The annual chance of being killed in a terrorist attack was a mere 1 in 8.3 million per year if those five European countries were judged as one state from 2001 through June 20th, 2017. That is a lower risk than the 1 in 1.6 million per year chance of an American being murdered in a terrorist attack on U.S. soil from 2001 through 2017. Even in Europe, terrorism is a relatively small and manageable threat.

You might as well start worrying about shark attacks.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

Again with the Islamic appeasement - 2 days after another attack.

"But Muh car accidents kill so many more bro"

Go and move to fucking Saudi Arabia already - or enjoy the safety in ISIS territories.

And the worst part are the stats taken decades back.

Hey - how about the 300.000 crimes done by the newcoming Muslim migrants - if you add rape, gang rape, sexual attacks, general attacks, petty crime on top of terror, then the Muslims don't look so good eh?

And the terror aspect - the UK had multiple brutal attacks in the last 2-3 years just as France. Sometimes people were gutted in theaters - this is is not a fucking car accident - all those idiots comparing it to it are insane. You can continue doing that until you end up in Lebanon situation and all the people in your city are slaughtered like halal meat. Insanity. There is no fucking chance in hell of being hurt 1 in a million by a Muslim in Europe. Just fucking send your girlfriend running in parks and walking home at night - you will get numbers closer to 10-20%.

In addition it is telling that I say that terrorism is yet not of fundamental danger - just pays to keep your eyes open. But that is exactly where your Islamophobia-trained eye falls upon. Fucking join ISIS already and get it over with.

[Easy_C]

Watch this for the guest, not for Alex J.

TLDR: For a lot of reasons, your best bet is low population Rocky Mountain area states. #1 Location is Utah.