[questor70]

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/po...-movement/

I don't know where to start with this but I know the senior members here will have a field day with this.

At any rate, the condescension is real in this article.

[CRR]

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But if you are a man who can’t get a date with someone who actually likes you, it’s not because of feminism. It’s because you are someone people do not want to date.

Ironic considering a major component of feminism is undateable women.

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That is true even if they are not actively being horrible. Being a “nice guy” insofar as not abusing someone is just a baseline. As Cracked points out, “Saying that you're a nice guy is like a restaurant whose only selling point is that the food doesn't make you sick."

I love how they always go back to bashing "the nice guy". I/we agree. Any guy who acts like "the nice guy" and gets pissed when he doesn't get laid needs to reassess his strategy.

However, it's the same way I/we view feminists. A bunch of bitter women that are angry that the men they like don't reciprocate.

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That means you might have to pay attention to what other people like.

Interesting coming from a movement that insists that obese and/or aging women be thought of as beautiful.

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This is one of the first eras where men have to bring something to the dating and flirting table beyond the very fact of their being a male who is willing to date a women. Which means that they have to actually respond to women’s cues. They have to learn how to read women.

Sounds like someone just got dumped, again. And some 'creepy' guy tried to flirt with her. I had to listen to one of my girlfriend's friends complain about this the other night, again. Just like the author, she doesn't realize that the world doesn't revolve around her and a shitty, entitled attitude makes men run from even much more attractive women.

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A woman is going to be a cool aunt with an adopted shelter cat who excels in her career and spends her free time traveling around the world? Oh no.

At least she's prepared for the inevitable.

[CynicalContrarian]

Should probably open a pet store called - Dog Mom's, & see how long it takes someone to note the double entendre.

[monsquid]

She's a heinous troll with terrible writing skills. Without the sensational click bait headlines her articles would be worthless.

She's married to a soyboy.

[url=https://twitter.com/JenAshleyWright/status/982123729915330561][/url]

[Days of Broken Arrows]

"This is one of the first eras where men have to bring something to the dating and flirting table beyond the very fact of their being a male who is willing to date a women. Which means that they have to actually respond to women’s cues. They have to learn how to read women."

This is an absolute total lie. I'm surprised she can get away with writing this, considering people now have the history of world (and U.S. culture) at their fingertips via the Internet.

There was NEVER a time when men didn't have to bring something to the "dating and flirting table." NEVER.

Men had to have jobs. They had to earn a decent wage. They had to have a place in society. They had to look respectable. They had to be able to pay for dates.

When disease was rampant, they had to be healthy. In the South, they had to come from decent families.

The reason men have dating issues now is because the rules changed -- but only for women. This is part and parcel of our society today, which combines the worst elements of Christian chivalry and pop culture feminism.

Women are allowed to have a laundry list of criteria for men and that's called "standards." But when men have these criteria, it's called "bigotry" or "shaming."

An easy way to expose this is to go on any dating site. All of them allow women to demand specific heights, salaries, and education for men. But if you're a man and expect women to be a certain weight or you express "incorrect" political views, you get banned from the dating site.

Finally, the issue of "nice guys" is so wrongheaded it's mind-boggling. What's the other option? Being a bastard?

Anyone who has to navigate domestic life knows that the quickest ticket to divorce is to pair up with someone who is difficult and argumentative. No matter what feminists claim, that's the opposite of "nice."

If the entire world was composed of "bad-asses" and "bad boys" instead of nice guys, you'd get a dysfunctional culture. You'd get war. You'd get the Third World. This is the endgame of feminism.

And I don't want to hear about how awful nice guys are. Back in the 1940s and a few decades after that, men were expected to be nice and polite. If you put today's "bad boy" back in that culture, he'd be laughed at as a coarse, inarticulate reject.

Ironically, it looks like she married the ultimate "nice guy." So that alone should disqualify everything she says.

I'd love to meet the parents who are raising daughters to write articles like this. Or is it the colleges that are warping their minds?

[Paracelsus]

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Maybe it’s about time men started doing the same. I’m eagerly anticipating the day when men’s magazines start teaching men how to date by, say, suggesting they learn to cook for us.

Shit, dudegirl, we already know that move. It's time to send her a link to Return of Kings:

http://www.returnofkings.com/24748/6-rea...ow-to-cook

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2. You will know more than the average western woman

It is no secret that most western women, specifically American women, have no feminine instinct. A traditional women cooks, cleans and take care of the house, women like this are almost extinct in the states (just imagine my generation in a couple years). By casually hinting about your cooking skills you will already rein superiority over her, if she is unable to cook. It is powerful because she will not know how to do a task she knows she is supposed to know as a woman. The result is a women subconsciously placing you in a higher tier of value than herself. Even if you do not live in America you can boast about the fact that you can.

3. You will impress

Cooking will not only make a woman a little more vulnerable in a sense but it will also certainly intrigue her and impress her. Assuming she already is attracted to you, it will only add more reasons into her head why she should sleep with you (if you haven’t yet). If you take the ‘Home Made Dinner’ route you will certainly impress and it’s a great aphrodisiac. It is simply a woman’s fantasy.

If you want a detailed meal list:

http://www.returnofkings.com/81306/8-fas...your-place

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I lately converted a lot of my dates into faster lays by proposing the great homemade dinner on the second date instead of waiting for the third. Sex is highly implied in this maneuver. You must SELL IT WELL, and make it sound like she could miss the dish of the century. Buy the ingredients, and some extra alcohol if your fridge is not stocked.

Once home, I usually clown around and pretend to be on my imaginary cooking show with her. You can do the same but it is paramount that you include her in the preparation. You can’t have her sitting down and waiting. You are not a slave and while she’s idle, she does the worst thing she can do: she thinks. Keep her busy.

Declare that she is the assistant, boss her around, give her the shitty knife that does not cut, use the imperative, touch her waist, tease her. Built up the tension without attacking too fast. A woman is in in her natural environment in the kitchen. She loves the orders, she is more relaxed, and her nature reveals itself. There are many great dishes you can cook if you ran out of Kratom—here are a few that served me well in the past:

[DJ-Matt]

^^^

[url=https://twitter.com/kingofponders/status/982314931709030400][/url]

[Fender_Bender]

That Twitter comment thread is hilarious-they are both getting shredded.

"Jamarcus Brown - 'that ellipsis tells me she wants an open marriage'"

His profile indicates he a writer for the Colbert Report...figures

[kamoz]

(04-08-2018 10:50 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  

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Maybe it’s about time men started doing the same. I’m eagerly anticipating the day when men’s magazines start teaching men how to date by, say, suggesting they learn to cook for us.

Shit, dudegirl, we already know that move. It's time to send her a link to Return of Kings:

http://www.returnofkings.com/24748/6-rea...ow-to-cook

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2. You will know more than the average western woman

It is no secret that most western women, specifically American women, have no feminine instinct. A traditional women cooks, cleans and take care of the house, women like this are almost extinct in the states (just imagine my generation in a couple years). By casually hinting about your cooking skills you will already rein superiority over her, if she is unable to cook. It is powerful because she will not know how to do a task she knows she is supposed to know as a woman. The result is a women subconsciously placing you in a higher tier of value than herself. Even if you do not live in America you can boast about the fact that you can.

3. You will impress

Cooking will not only make a woman a little more vulnerable in a sense but it will also certainly intrigue her and impress her. Assuming she already is attracted to you, it will only add more reasons into her head why she should sleep with you (if you haven’t yet). If you take the ‘Home Made Dinner’ route you will certainly impress and it’s a great aphrodisiac. It is simply a woman’s fantasy.

If you want a detailed meal list:

http://www.returnofkings.com/81306/8-fas...your-place

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I lately converted a lot of my dates into faster lays by proposing the great homemade dinner on the second date instead of waiting for the third. Sex is highly implied in this maneuver. You must SELL IT WELL, and make it sound like she could miss the dish of the century. Buy the ingredients, and some extra alcohol if your fridge is not stocked.

Once home, I usually clown around and pretend to be on my imaginary cooking show with her. You can do the same but it is paramount that you include her in the preparation. You can’t have her sitting down and waiting. You are not a slave and while she’s idle, she does the worst thing she can do: she thinks. Keep her busy.

Declare that she is the assistant, boss her around, give her the shitty knife that does not cut, use the imperative, touch her waist, tease her. Built up the tension without attacking too fast. A woman is in in her natural environment in the kitchen. She loves the orders, she is more relaxed, and her nature reveals itself. There are many great dishes you can cook if you ran out of Kratom—here are a few that served me well in the past:

Stating the obvious, but the above techniques are to ONLY GET A LAY. No level-headed man would ever consider marrying a woman in the above described scenario.

I say this though because these women, who place these men in their mind as being high value because they can cook, think they have a chance at marriage with them! They don't! They will get pumped and dumped by these high value men until they're in there 30's and....we all know the rest of the story.

When will they ever learn.....

Perhaps Roosh can hold a roundtable on YouTube titled 'what men are looking for in a wife.' Round up some high SMV men for good optics and that are willing to make some straight to the point statements that condense the forum's experience. Considering how many women are out there asking #wheresmyman something like this could be effective if marketed correctly. Spread it on social media, cause a shitstorm, get some women wondering. Just throwing out ideas.

[questor70]

(04-08-2018 11:52 PM)Fender_Bender Wrote:  

His profile indicates he a writer for the Colbert Report...figures

He had to have SOME social status / fame to compensate for the soy.

[CRR]

DOBA

Once again, spot on.

I've had that argument many times with women regarding the 'nice guy'. Feminists act like it's a crime if a guy is socially awkward. A common characteristic of 'nice guys' I know is that they have trouble expressing when they like a woman, so they resort to acting 'nice' to women. Oh the horror. A guy who does things for a woman, pays for her when they hang out, and it's not reciprocated. Fine. The guy is probably going to be hurt, no need to pour salt in his wound. Their stories of all of these guys lashing out at them are highly exaggerated, or downright lies. Funny how feminists talk about how entitled these guys supposedly are since, again, among other things they insist that all women are beautiful. And lets not ignore that many of these women play a part in this drama, they know full well that the guy has feelings for them, but are more than willing to accept the attention and free stuff.

I know at least two guys who women I know made comments about them being 'nice guys'. Both are socially awkward. Both eventually grew out of it and have decent girlfriends. And to be clear in my above post, my criticism of nice guys is more out of trying to lift them up. When things aren't going your way, you have to rethink your strategy and adapt accordingly. The exact opposite of what feminism is about.

Bottom line is in today's world, it is ok to be a nice guy. But don't hesitate to become the wolf when necessary.

[C-Note]

(04-08-2018 09:53 PM)monsquid Wrote:  

[url=https://twitter.com/JenAshleyWright/status/982123729915330561][/url]

Looks like this photo was taken in Japan. As has been discussed on this forum before, when Western feminists go to Japan or other places in East Asia, they quickly become very frustrated, resentful, and angry at what they see, even the lesbian ones.

[Sandstorm]

"A woman is going to be a cool aunt with an adopted shelter cat who excels in her career and spends her free time traveling around the world? Oh no."



"a cool aunt" - yeah, right. How comforting that will be, when the last words the Cool Aunt hears before she dies in her hospice bed are:

"mommy can we go home now? Aunty Jennifer smells real bad, and I want to play Minecraft."

[Sandstorm]

"The fact that feminism means women and men now try to enter into unions with people they actually like is one reason the divorce rate is thought be at its lowest in 40 years."

Or it could be because no fucking men are stupid enough to get married anymore....

[Paracelsus]

(04-09-2018 03:44 PM)Sandstorm Wrote:  

"The fact that feminism means women and men now try to enter into unions with people they actually like is one reason the divorce rate is thought be at its lowest in 40 years."

Or it could be because no fucking men are stupid enough to get married anymore....

Protip: when a journalist uses the words "is thought", they have zero sources for whatever they are thinking, and it is likely what is thought is not true at all.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(04-09-2018 03:34 PM)Sandstorm Wrote:  

"A woman is going to be a cool aunt with an adopted shelter cat who excels in her career and spends her free time traveling around the world? Oh no."



"a cool aunt" - yeah, right. How comforting that will be, when the last words the Cool Aunt hears before she dies in her hospice bed are:

"mommy can we go home now? Aunty Jennifer smells real bad, and I want to play Minecraft."

In their bizarro world, for kids a "cool aunt" means "we stay at her house every once in a while and eat chocolate for breakfast while she sleeps off the hangover she got staying up all night drinking red wine and reading messages from Tinder Chads responding to her ultra-filtered pictures, none of whom she still has the guts to meet because even with make-up she looks like she died two weeks ago."

Cunts like these self-assign "cool" status to themselves merely because their nephews and nieces aren't immediately hostile to them, and because they don't have to discipline them or provide boundaries. They are so narcissistic they create a false narrative that their sibling's children hold them in any regard whatsoever.

If they were at all honest or self aware they wouldn't label themselves "the cool aunt" any more than 46 year old Manuela, the childsitter, would label herself "the cool childsitter".

[debeguiled]

"Cool Aunt" is code for "Honorary Child."

So she will be the cool aunt who owns a rescue cat who takes pride for some reason when her husband eats soy doughnuts.

I actually love articles like this because they signal the dawning realization among women that feminism is over.

She knows very well that reality is the exact opposite of everything she writes.

She is sinking deeper and deeper into delusional mommy-make-it-stop, pull-covers-over-the-head territory.

What a load of word salad from someone who probably hates salads.

Join me and hubby in my dream world.

We're angels!

We'll just fly away!

[url=https://twitter.com/JenAshleyWright/status/983295455642693632][/url]

[Genghis Khan]

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This is one of the first eras where men have to bring something to the dating and flirting table beyond the very fact of their being a male who is willing to date a women. Which means that they have to actually respond to women’s cues. They have to learn how to read women.

Most women don't really bring anything to the table except their looks and vaginas. They're "pretty" women.

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That is true even if they are not actively being horrible. Being a “nice guy” insofar as not abusing someone is just a baseline. As Cracked points out, “Saying that you're a nice guy is like a restaurant whose only selling point is that the food doesn't make you sick.

I'm a very curious person, sometimes to my own detriment.

The thing about nice guys is: it doesn't work because it's become the baseline. Most men in the West are civilized and many have a good job. Not only that, but women have jobs too. That's why being a nice guy means you today don't bring anything to the table.

An analogy: imagine people lived in a time where water was a rare commodity and you were the guy who had water. Now suddenly everyone has water. So what value do you really bring?

It is what it is though. Adapt or don't pass on your genes. But here's where my curiosity comes in: what happens when the shoe really is on the other foot. If sex robots and relevant technologies really take off, are we going to see men lament 'pretty' women who bring nothing to the table except their pussy?

It isn't as if the average Western woman has anything else to offer.

Imagine this, in a world of 10/10 sex bots with AI:

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This is one of the first eras where women have to bring something to the dating and flirting table beyond the very fact of their being a female who is willing to date a man. Which means that they have to actually respond to men’s cues. They have to learn how to read men.

That is true even if they are not actively being horrible. Being a “pretty woman” insofar as not being hideous to look at is just a baseline. As Cracked points out, “Saying that you're a pretty woman is like a restaurant whose only selling point is that the food doesn't make you sick.

Maybe it’s about time women started doing the same. I’m eagerly anticipating the day when women’s magazines start teaching women how to date by, say, suggesting they learn to cook for us.

EDIT: or if we end up with a massive economic collapse and suddenly women's choices are between dating a nice guy with a solid job and starvation.

Who knows, but at least for me, the older I get and the more I understand the world, the more excited I get to see how everything will play out. Maybe this is what Dante meant with Divine Comedy.

[456]

See those soy bitch tits poking out of his sides? Is that on purpose? Is he wearing her bra as a joke or is that naturally how his shirt fits?

[MidJack]

(04-10-2018 06:20 PM)456 Wrote:  

See those soy bitch tits poking out of his sides? Is that on purpose? Is he wearing her bra as a joke or is that naturally how his shirt fits?

Manboobs. Dude needs to lay off the soy donuts.

An unusual case of gynecomastia associated with soy product consumption:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18558591/

I am willing to bet this is in fact not so unusual.

[puckerman]

(04-09-2018 02:38 PM)C-Note Wrote:  

Looks like this photo was taken in Japan. As has been discussed on this forum before, when Western feminists go to Japan or other places in East Asia, they quickly become very frustrated, resentful, and angry at what they see, even the lesbian ones.

What exactly is the source of this frustration? I am sorry if I missed this elsewhere.

[PapayaTapper]

(04-09-2018 02:38 PM)C-Note Wrote:  

(04-08-2018 09:53 PM)monsquid Wrote:  

[url=https://twitter.com/JenAshleyWright/status/982123729915330561][/url]

Looks like this photo was taken in Japan. As has been discussed on this forum before, when Western feminists go to Japan or other places in East Asia, they quickly become very frustrated, resentful, and angry at what they see, even the lesbian ones.

"Now thanks to my wife's strap on I look at this donut and I now know what its like to be a woman"

[Delta]

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Women have accepted, from birth, the notion that dating is about bringing qualities to the table. And it is honestly exhausting how much women are expected to bring to the table to be a desirable partner. (You can just read the “cool girl” speech in Gone Girl to see how exhausting it can sometimes be.)

Maybe it’s about time men started doing the same. I’m eagerly anticipating the day when men’s magazines start teaching men how to date by, say, suggesting they learn to cook for us.

Geez, there's untrue, and then there's the polar opposite of true. I can only wonder what reality this woman has been living in.

Ever notice how when men vent frustration about lack of dating success it goes something like:
"I'm a decent looking, in-shape, normal dude with a steady job, and average looking women act like they're better than me, blah blah blah"

Whereas with women it's always:
"I felt like I was hitting it off with this super cute guy but then he just started ignoring me! Why do men always do this, blah blah blah"

Men are conditioned to consider the value that they have to offer relative to the women they pursue... when was the last time you heard a woman give an honest assessment of what she brings to the table? The problem is always that the tall, built, handsome, high-status men who keep rejecting her are shallow assholes; she's positively amazing and awesome if you'd just look past the layers of fat.

And it's easy to see why. Men's self-help material teaches men to eat right, lift weights, dress and groom well, fix and maintain stuff, be likable to women, and yes, cook. Women's self-help material teaches women to love themselves no matter what, and never settle!

Unless I'm just unaware of the female version of this forum where women obsess over how to increase their value in the eyes of men

[Vladimir Poontang]

Before marriage, it's more obvious what men bring than what women bring. It's easier for a man to showcase what he has to offer than a woman. That's why it's easy to make women believe that they don't need to offer much. On the clitty'n'beta forum I asked "people" (women) what they had to offer, and mostly they said some equivalent of "just me".

[John Michael Kane]

She's a bitch, and he has bitch tits. End of story.