[Bigmac4u]

In Poland approximately 80% of animals test positive for the parasite T. gondii (Toxoplasma gondii). Toxoplasma gondii is an obligate intracellular, parasitic alveolate that causes the disease toxoplasmosis. I was looking at the T Gondii infection rates for people across the world and its more than 50% in some Eastern European countries. Contact with raw meat of infected animals, especially pork, is a significant source of human infections. And we all know Poles love undercooked meat.

Affected people will mostly demonstrate subtle shifts of behavior. But in a small number of cases, [Toxo infection] may be linked to schizophrenia and other disturbances associated with altered dopamine levels—for example, obsessive-compulsive disorder, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, and mood disorders.

From Wikipedia:

Behavior of infected hosts: men were more likely to disregard rule and were more expedient, suspicious and jealous. On the other hand, women were more warm hearted, outgoing, conscientious and moralistic (sounds like a lot of the clubs sluts that are popular on this board) ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxoplasma_gondii

Transmission

- Eating undercooked, contaminated meat (especially pork, lamb, and venison)

- Accidental ingestion of undercooked, contaminated meat after handling it and not washing hands thoroughly (Toxoplasma cannot be absorbed through intact skin)

- Eating food that was contaminated by knives, utensils, cutting boards, or other foods that had contact with raw, contaminated meat

Sources:

http://culturewhiz.org/forum/topic/how-p...ects-brain

https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/toxoplasmosis/epi.html

[PlevenskiTarikat]

Poland is also the Lyme disease hotspot of Europe. All of eastern Europe is actually. While toxoplasmosis might produce some subtle symptoms, Lyme disease (complex) can ruin your life. Interesting topic overall.

[icrus]

So does this mean after fucking Polish girls raw you slowly turn into a zombie?

[Bigmac4u]

Possibly. It’s funny to read the research that basically shows how different parasites induce more sexual behavior in humans, they increase the population of infected humans and increase the population of infectable hosts by doing that. One study showed an almost doubling of the number sexual partners for infected human, with an average of two more kid.

The worst bit is none of this is new… before “psychology” was invented, doctors who knew how to cure people would treat anyone with mania/anxiety/depression for digestion health, parasites, and colon dysfunction and cure them of their “mental” disorders. But it is more profitable to “treat” crazy people than it is to cure them.

[Belgrano]

(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

Transmission

- Eating undercooked, contaminated meat (especially pork, lamb, and venison)

- Accidental ingestion of undercooked, contaminated meat after handling it and not washing hands thoroughly (Toxoplasma cannot be absorbed through intact skin)

- Eating food that was contaminated by knives, utensils, cutting boards, or other foods that had contact with raw, contaminated meat

You forgot the most important one:

- Living with a cat

Think this is only relevant to Poland or Eastern Europe?
Think again!



Came up a few times before already:

The Final Verdict against cats - Never get one

Toxoplasma: Why Brazilian girls are so sexy?

[icrus]

I have a cat. Does this mean I have to cancel on all these girls now that want to sleep with me? I thought sleeping with lots of beautiful women was Alpha. Now it's not. I also don't want to turn into a zombie. I don't know who's going to take care of the cat once I'm a zombie. Although taking care of animals might be beta. Might have to stop that too.

So confusing all this pussycat stuff.

[TonySandos]

I'm going there some time soon for work. Thanks for the heads up. So: a) no going out to eat at all b) basically no kissing c) heavy duty bug spray in the woods

I'm just staying in Italy in my free time

[Bigmac4u]

(03-07-2018 11:53 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

Transmission

- Eating undercooked, contaminated meat (especially pork, lamb, and venison)

- Accidental ingestion of undercooked, contaminated meat after handling it and not washing hands thoroughly (Toxoplasma cannot be absorbed through intact skin)

- Eating food that was contaminated by knives, utensils, cutting boards, or other foods that had contact with raw, contaminated meat

You forgot the most important one:

- Living with a cat

Think this is only relevant to Poland or Eastern Europe?
Think again!



Came up a few times before already:

The Final Verdict against cats - Never get one

Toxoplasma: Why Brazilian girls are so sexy?

Contact with raw meat of infected animals, especially pork, is a more significant source of human infections. Areas without any "artificially" inflated numbers of predator cats, aka pets, allows the rat population to increase and spread the T. Gondii... You either have to have a really healthy pet population to decrease the numbers of rats, mice, etc. or you get the infection rates high because the few cats that are around are infected themselves from always eating the rodents and never getting any deworming medication... in other words, indoor cats are mostly harmless and outdoor cats shed the parasite for only 1% of their lifespan, so you are much more likely to get the parasite/toxoplasmosis from the following:

Drinking municipal/well unboiled and unbottled water containing oocysts, exposure to contaminated soil, contaminated milk, exposure of children playing in sandpits, geophagia [115], [116], eating raw or undercooked meat, especially venison [117] or rabbits [118], raw oysters, clams, or mussels [119], consumption of unwashed raw fruits and vegetables contaminated with the oocytes [117], blood transfusion [120]–[122], maternal-fetal passage of blood cells (including placental trophoblasts) [123], [124], solid organ allografts [125], [126], bone marrow transplantation [127], allogeneic stem cell transplantation [128], sputum [129], breast milk [130], [131], and semen [132] (thus, probably the infection may be transmitted via both vaginal and oral sex, significantly more frequently from seropositive to passive sex partner than vice-versa (P<0.001) [133]). Poor hygiene, lower socioeconomic status and less education, as well as exposure to certain strains of T. gondii may also contribute to a higher rate of infection [134]

No doubt 90% of the posters here have multiple parasites. It only takes one trip! With T. Gondii you don't feel sick (as the source article says) but your body is over reacting to everything so you don’t get sick but you’re burning through nutrients too fast. Hence why a lot of Eastern Europeans age BADLY... if they don't eat super healthy. With autism + T. Gondii you'll see extreme behavior shifts late 30s if infected in 20s. So this should be a concern for a lot of people here.

[Sherman]

This is an interesting topic. I know cat lovers who absolutely worship cats. This could explain their insane obsession. Researchers say that this parasite makes even mice like cats, making it easy for the cat to catch the mouse.

[Bigmac4u]

(03-07-2018 01:28 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

I'm going there some time soon for work. Thanks for the heads up. So: a) no going out to eat at all b) basically no kissing c) heavy duty bug spray in the woods

I'm just staying in Italy in my free time

Don't worry about it. Parasites can be removed from the intestine using the right amount of vinegar for few days longer than the length of the gestation/life cycle. If you plan to take a trip to Ukraine, you should be aware of the high rate of Tuberculosis (TB). The incidence in the country is 87 per 100 000, and Kiev is 41 per 100 000, which is very high compared to other Western countries, which mostly dont even reach double figures. For example with the United States 2.9 per 100 000 or Germany 8 per 100 000. Don't worry, if you get TB, just get lots of sunshine... getting 10,000 iu of vitamin D for six months will allow the body to get rid of TB and that works for preventing it too. If I remember right, the body produces about 40,000 iu in white skinned people in about a half hour. If you aren't getting enough sun, take 15000 ui of vitamin D, that's equivalent to less than 10min of sunshine on your body! TB can't live in people with enough vitamin D

[Kyon]

this is the dumbest shit i've read all week and I love it

[TigerMandingo]

Man I never understood why people freak out about "undercooked" meats and other dumb shit like "germs". Your immune system is there for a reason, and it needs practice. When I was a kid, I swam in dirty lakes, played in the mud, ate street food which sometimes made me vomit, and other risky shit. I played with cats and get this - sometimes SOMETIMES kissed them (AHH!). The result is that as an adult I rarely get colds, flus, and pussy-ass allergies.

Grow a pair, will ya?

[DarkTriad]

(03-08-2018 02:04 AM)Sherman Wrote:  

This is an interesting topic. I know cat lovers who absolutely worship cats. This could explain their insane obsession. Researchers say that this parasite makes even mice like cats, making it easy for the cat to catch the mouse.

Is there something similar that makes them like parisitic politicians? it would explain a lot.

[jcardial]

(03-08-2018 01:48 AM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 11:53 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

Transmission

- Eating undercooked, contaminated meat (especially pork, lamb, and venison)

- Accidental ingestion of undercooked, contaminated meat after handling it and not washing hands thoroughly (Toxoplasma cannot be absorbed through intact skin)

- Eating food that was contaminated by knives, utensils, cutting boards, or other foods that had contact with raw, contaminated meat

You forgot the most important one:

- Living with a cat

Think this is only relevant to Poland or Eastern Europe?
Think again!



Came up a few times before already:

The Final Verdict against cats - Never get one

Toxoplasma: Why Brazilian girls are so sexy?

Contact with raw meat of infected animals, especially pork, is a more significant source of human infections. Areas without any "artificially" inflated numbers of predator cats, aka pets, allows the rat population to increase and spread the T. Gondii... You either have to have a really healthy pet population to decrease the numbers of rats, mice, etc. or you get the infection rates high because the few cats that are around are infected themselves from always eating the rodents and never getting any deworming medication... in other words, indoor cats are mostly harmless and outdoor cats shed the parasite for only 1% of their lifespan, so you are much more likely to get the parasite/toxoplasmosis from the following:

Drinking municipal/well unboiled and unbottled water containing oocysts, exposure to contaminated soil, contaminated milk, exposure of children playing in sandpits, geophagia [115], [116], eating raw or undercooked meat, especially venison [117] or rabbits [118], raw oysters, clams, or mussels [119], consumption of unwashed raw fruits and vegetables contaminated with the oocytes [117], blood transfusion [120]–[122], maternal-fetal passage of blood cells (including placental trophoblasts) [123], [124], solid organ allografts [125], [126], bone marrow transplantation [127], allogeneic stem cell transplantation [128], sputum [129], breast milk [130], [131], and semen [132] (thus, probably the infection may be transmitted via both vaginal and oral sex, significantly more frequently from seropositive to passive sex partner than vice-versa (P<0.001) [133]). Poor hygiene, lower socioeconomic status and less education, as well as exposure to certain strains of T. gondii may also contribute to a higher rate of infection [134]

No doubt 90% of the posters here have multiple parasites. It only takes one trip! With T. Gondii you don't feel sick (as the source article says) but your body is over reacting to everything so you don’t get sick but you’re burning through nutrients too fast. Hence why a lot of Eastern Europeans age BADLY... if they don't eat super healthy. With autism + T. Gondii you'll see extreme behavior shifts late 30s if infected in 20s. So this should be a concern for a lot of people here.

Calm down, settle down. It is pretty far from being a slam dunk that Toxoplasma gondii is causing significant personality differences. There still needs to be a lot more research done before acting like the jury is in. There are multiple possible confounding variables potentially at play. Just one such example is that certain personalities are probably much more likely to put themselves in situations that are higher risk for exposure.

[jcardial]

(03-08-2018 02:04 AM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 01:28 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

I'm going there some time soon for work. Thanks for the heads up. So: a) no going out to eat at all b) basically no kissing c) heavy duty bug spray in the woods

I'm just staying in Italy in my free time

Don't worry about it. Parasites can be removed from the intestine using the right amount of vinegar for few days longer than the length of the gestation/life cycle. If you plan to take a trip to Ukraine, you should be aware of the high rate of Tuberculosis (TB). The incidence in the country is 87 per 100 000, and Kiev is 41 per 100 000, which is very high compared to other Western countries, which mostly dont even reach double figures. For example with the United States 2.9 per 100 000 or Germany 8 per 100 000. Don't worry, if you get TB, just get lots of sunshine... getting 10,000 iu of vitamin D for six months will allow the body to get rid of TB and that works for preventing it too. If I remember right, the body produces about 40,000 iu in white skinned people in about a half hour. If you aren't getting enough sun, take 15000 ui of vitamin D, that's equivalent to less than 10min of sunshine on your body! TB can't live in people with enough vitamin D

You don't remember correctly, so you should stop trying to play scientist and give medical advice regarding vitamins and parasites since you have no idea what you're talking about. 40,000 IU everyday would result in toxic levels in a relatively short time frame. An hour of strong sun would result in more like 1,000 IU.

Normal doses for Vitamin D3 are 1000–4000 IU, or 25–100 micrograms but will vary depending on a individual's blood volume. Taking 15,000 iu is terrible advice and could be very harmful. This is not medical advice so consult your doctor or do your own research, but definitely don't consult Bigmac4u.

[Bigmac4u]

(03-08-2018 11:45 AM)jcardial Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 01:48 AM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 11:53 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 10:41 AM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

Transmission

- Eating undercooked, contaminated meat (especially pork, lamb, and venison)

- Accidental ingestion of undercooked, contaminated meat after handling it and not washing hands thoroughly (Toxoplasma cannot be absorbed through intact skin)

- Eating food that was contaminated by knives, utensils, cutting boards, or other foods that had contact with raw, contaminated meat

You forgot the most important one:

- Living with a cat

Think this is only relevant to Poland or Eastern Europe?
Think again!



Came up a few times before already:

The Final Verdict against cats - Never get one

Toxoplasma: Why Brazilian girls are so sexy?

Contact with raw meat of infected animals, especially pork, is a more significant source of human infections. Areas without any "artificially" inflated numbers of predator cats, aka pets, allows the rat population to increase and spread the T. Gondii... You either have to have a really healthy pet population to decrease the numbers of rats, mice, etc. or you get the infection rates high because the few cats that are around are infected themselves from always eating the rodents and never getting any deworming medication... in other words, indoor cats are mostly harmless and outdoor cats shed the parasite for only 1% of their lifespan, so you are much more likely to get the parasite/toxoplasmosis from the following:

Drinking municipal/well unboiled and unbottled water containing oocysts, exposure to contaminated soil, contaminated milk, exposure of children playing in sandpits, geophagia [115], [116], eating raw or undercooked meat, especially venison [117] or rabbits [118], raw oysters, clams, or mussels [119], consumption of unwashed raw fruits and vegetables contaminated with the oocytes [117], blood transfusion [120]–[122], maternal-fetal passage of blood cells (including placental trophoblasts) [123], [124], solid organ allografts [125], [126], bone marrow transplantation [127], allogeneic stem cell transplantation [128], sputum [129], breast milk [130], [131], and semen [132] (thus, probably the infection may be transmitted via both vaginal and oral sex, significantly more frequently from seropositive to passive sex partner than vice-versa (P<0.001) [133]). Poor hygiene, lower socioeconomic status and less education, as well as exposure to certain strains of T. gondii may also contribute to a higher rate of infection [134]

No doubt 90% of the posters here have multiple parasites. It only takes one trip! With T. Gondii you don't feel sick (as the source article says) but your body is over reacting to everything so you don’t get sick but you’re burning through nutrients too fast. Hence why a lot of Eastern Europeans age BADLY... if they don't eat super healthy. With autism + T. Gondii you'll see extreme behavior shifts late 30s if infected in 20s. So this should be a concern for a lot of people here.

Calm down, settle down. It is pretty far from being a slam dunk that Toxoplasma gondii is causing significant personality differences. There still needs to be a lot more research done before acting like the jury is in. There are multiple possible confounding variables potentially at play. Just one such example is that certain personalities are probably much more likely to put themselves in situations that are higher risk for exposure.

I didn't write a academic paper here, so stop acting like I DID. This is an informal discussion WITH other such topics like "banging" on the weekend vs. weekday. Toxoplasma gondii is only ONE parasite OF many. You could have dozens on top of bad bacteria

Your personality is SHAPED by your biochemistry https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/28/magaz...-mood.html

[Bigmac4u]

(03-08-2018 12:02 PM)jcardial Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 02:04 AM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 01:28 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

I'm going there some time soon for work. Thanks for the heads up. So: a) no going out to eat at all b) basically no kissing c) heavy duty bug spray in the woods

I'm just staying in Italy in my free time

Don't worry about it. Parasites can be removed from the intestine using the right amount of vinegar for few days longer than the length of the gestation/life cycle. If you plan to take a trip to Ukraine, you should be aware of the high rate of Tuberculosis (TB). The incidence in the country is 87 per 100 000, and Kiev is 41 per 100 000, which is very high compared to other Western countries, which mostly dont even reach double figures. For example with the United States 2.9 per 100 000 or Germany 8 per 100 000. Don't worry, if you get TB, just get lots of sunshine... getting 10,000 iu of vitamin D for six months will allow the body to get rid of TB and that works for preventing it too. If I remember right, the body produces about 40,000 iu in white skinned people in about a half hour. If you aren't getting enough sun, take 15000 ui of vitamin D, that's equivalent to less than 10min of sunshine on your body! TB can't live in people with enough vitamin D

You don't remember correctly, so you should stop trying to play scientist and give medical advice regarding vitamins and parasites since you have no idea what you're talking about. 40,000 IU everyday would result in toxic levels in a relatively short time frame. An hour of strong sun would result in more like 1,000 IU.

Normal doses for Vitamin D3 are 1000–4000 IU, or 25–100 micrograms but will vary depending on a individual's blood volume. Taking 15,000 iu is terrible advice and could be very harmful. This is not medical advice so consult your doctor or do your own research, but definitely don't consult Bigmac4u.

As an informal discussion with topics as such as "would you bang this" and posts about "zombies" I didn't bother subtracting an extra zero from numbers. Moreover, arguing about issues with people like you is not really something I find worthwhile. You have no real power or intellect, so I do not really care if you are persuaded or not. Seriously, you sound like the kind of guy who can't figure out a statement if there's a simple typo.

other guy: Do you want to have dinnee tonight brah?
him: Sorry, I don't understand what you mean!!!!

Hardly the person anyone should bother with

[jcardial]

(03-08-2018 01:19 PM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 12:02 PM)jcardial Wrote:  

(03-08-2018 02:04 AM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

(03-07-2018 01:28 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  

I'm going there some time soon for work. Thanks for the heads up. So: a) no going out to eat at all b) basically no kissing c) heavy duty bug spray in the woods

I'm just staying in Italy in my free time

Don't worry about it. Parasites can be removed from the intestine using the right amount of vinegar for few days longer than the length of the gestation/life cycle. If you plan to take a trip to Ukraine, you should be aware of the high rate of Tuberculosis (TB). The incidence in the country is 87 per 100 000, and Kiev is 41 per 100 000, which is very high compared to other Western countries, which mostly dont even reach double figures. For example with the United States 2.9 per 100 000 or Germany 8 per 100 000. Don't worry, if you get TB, just get lots of sunshine... getting 10,000 iu of vitamin D for six months will allow the body to get rid of TB and that works for preventing it too. If I remember right, the body produces about 40,000 iu in white skinned people in about a half hour. If you aren't getting enough sun, take 15000 ui of vitamin D, that's equivalent to less than 10min of sunshine on your body! TB can't live in people with enough vitamin D

You don't remember correctly, so you should stop trying to play scientist and give medical advice regarding vitamins and parasites since you have no idea what you're talking about. 40,000 IU everyday would result in toxic levels in a relatively short time frame. An hour of strong sun would result in more like 1,000 IU.

Normal doses for Vitamin D3 are 1000–4000 IU, or 25–100 micrograms but will vary depending on a individual's blood volume. Taking 15,000 iu is terrible advice and could be very harmful. This is not medical advice so consult your doctor or do your own research, but definitely don't consult Bigmac4u.

As an informal discussion with topics as such as "would you bang this" and posts about "zombies" I didn't bother subtracting an extra zero from numbers. Moreover, arguing about issues with people like you is not really something I find worthwhile. You have no real power or intellect, so I do not really care if you are persuaded or not. Seriously, you sound like the kind of guy who can't figure out a statement if there's a simple typo.

other guy: Do you want to have dinnee tonight brah?
him: Sorry, I don't understand what you mean!!!!

Hardly the person anyone should bother with

Closer to:

You: Take 15,000 IU of Vitamin D everyday, it's like ten minutes of sunshine...might as well take 40,000 since that's what half an hour of sun does

Him (a few months later if still alive): Why do I have hypertension and why are my soft tissues calcifying

You: Just made a few typos, brah

[ksbms]

[...] Moreover, arguing about issues with people like you is not really something I find worthwhile. You have no real power or intellect, so I do not really care if you are persuaded or not. Seriously, you sound like the kind of guy who can't figure out a statement if there's a simple typo. [...]

A person engaging in advancing with ad hominem argument usually indirectly concedes s/he has no reasonable arguments left to sustain a plausible defense. It's better to bow and leave stage left instead of persisting in self-humiliation and personal auto-da-fé.

[Bigmac4u]

Lol, If you go out in the sunshine in the summer at noon you can make 15,000 iu or more naturally. It is generally considered that the safe upper limit of daily vitamin D intake is 10,000 IU/day. That being said, everybody is different and may require more or less vitamin D. If you're trying to get rid of TB you might want to hit 15,000 IU.

https://www.easy-immune-health.com/toxic...level.html

Quote:

"I had my Vitamin D level checked in August, where it was around 40. I got a fibromyalgia relapse and the doctor told me to start taking 10,000 to 20,000 iu's of Vitamin D3 for a month, then drop to 10,000 iu's. I did this in January 2011. I didn't remember the 20,000 everyday, so it was hit and miss, closer to 4 times week. Then I had 10,000 maybe 5 or 6 times a week for 6 more weeks. A total of about 10 weeks".

I guess that all means you're stupid.

I mean, really stupid

https://www.easy-immune-health.com/Overd...min-D.html

Quote:

"Most experts in vitamin d believe that toxicity begins around 250 ng/ml. A level of 150 is actually found naturally in lifeguards in tropical areas like Hawaii and others who get lots of sun. But with your high anxiety over this and your Fibromyalgia, I suspect that you have Signs of Magnesium Deficiency and could benefit from some extra magnesium."

[Bigmac4u]

(03-08-2018 05:34 PM)ksbms Wrote:  

[...] Moreover, arguing about issues with people like you is not really something I find worthwhile. You have no real power or intellect, so I do not really care if you are persuaded or not. Seriously, you sound like the kind of guy who can't figure out a statement if there's a simple typo. [...]

A person engaging in advancing with ad hominem argument usually indirectly concedes s/he has no reasonable arguments left to sustain a plausible defense. It's better to bow and leave stage left instead of persisting in self-humiliation and personal auto-da-fé.

Yeah, I guess you were wrong?

This fool got straight up 3D owned

[jcardial]

(03-08-2018 05:40 PM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

Lol, If you go out in the sunshine in the summer at noon you can make 15,000 iu or more naturally. It is generally considered that the safe upper limit of daily vitamin D intake is 10,000 IU/day. That being said, everybody is different and may require more or less vitamin D. If you're trying to get rid of TB you might want to hit 15,000 IU.

https://www.easy-immune-health.com/toxic...level.html

Quote:

"I had my Vitamin D level checked in August, where it was around 40. I got a fibromyalgia relapse and the doctor told me to start taking 10,000 to 20,000 iu's of Vitamin D3 for a month, then drop to 10,000 iu's. I did this in January 2011. I didn't remember the 20,000 everyday, so it was hit and miss, closer to 4 times week. Then I had 10,000 maybe 5 or 6 times a week for 6 more weeks. A total of about 10 weeks".

I guess that all means you're stupid.

I mean, really stupid

https://www.easy-immune-health.com/Overd...min-D.html

Quote:

"Most experts in vitamin d believe that toxicity begins around 250 ng/ml. A level of 150 is actually found naturally in lifeguards in tropical areas like Hawaii and others who get lots of sun. But with your high anxiety over this and your Fibromyalgia, I suspect that you have Signs of Magnesium Deficiency and could benefit from some extra magnesium."

You're the clown trying to give unsolicited medical advice on how to treat TB with Vitamin D. Aside from being super random, this is advice a doctor should be giving because it is contingent on your body size and current blood levels. Your quote is from an anecdotal short term treatment under doctor supervision and only on the 1-2 month time frame.

There is long term build up with Vitamins, so a dose that is fine in the short term can have negative effects if maintained over several months. A dose of 10-15k won't outright poison you but it is likely sub optimal for health over several months. 40k-60k IU/day long term is likely enough to cause adverse effects or outright toxicity in the majority of people.

[Bigmac4u]

Lol, in East Germany between the 1940's and 1960's, children would ROUTINELY get 6 doses of 600,000 IU's of Vitamin D between birth and 18 months old. This gave these small children an incredible 3,600,000 IU's of Vitamin D in 18 months. That is Three Million, Six Hundred Thousand IU's in 18 months in small children as a routine hospital procedure for several decades!! There have been zero reported incidences of Vitamin D Toxicity from too much sunshine. You're completely ignorant. I'm a world renowned pathologist.

[Bigmac4u]

Oh, and Doctors aren’t scientists. They’re more like mechanics. Listen to a noise. Look it up. Prescribe medicine. They have robots that can do that shit. Proper science takes focus, discipline and patience.. not to mention creativity at times.. and of course intellect. Traits rarely found at all today, let alone all in a single person.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archi...es/517368/

That article is about the stupidity of most doctors. They don’t know how the body works so they use a ton of drugs and silly treatments. It’s basically primitive caveman stuff that hasn’t changed in 20 years lol

Here's a brilliant health test: If you get sleepy sun tanning it's because the immune system cells need vitamin D to signal that something needs to be done... so you get super tired when all of a sudden your body starts doing shit to remove bacteria etc and you fall asleep in the sun...

[jcardial]

(03-08-2018 07:43 PM)Bigmac4u Wrote:  

Lol, in East Germany between the 1940's and 1960's, children would ROUTINELY get 6 doses of 600,000 IU's of Vitamin D between birth and 18 months old. This gave these small children an incredible 3,600,000 IU's of Vitamin D in 18 months. That is Three Million, Six Hundred Thousand IU's in 18 months in small children as a routine hospital procedure for several decades!! There have been zero reported incidences of Vitamin D Toxicity from too much sunshine. You're completely ignorant. I'm a world renowned pathologist.

You're scraping at the bottom of the barrel if you're going that far back and referencing it as good practice or evidence of anything. The Germans were doing a variety of inhumane testing on children so I don't know what you're trying to prove. For all you know their kidneys were damaged from it. To be fair, 3.6 million IU over 18 months is an average of 6.6k IU/day.

"Because of this wide therapeutic index, vitamin D toxicity is extremely rare, but does occur at excessively high doses. Doses more than 50,000 IU/day raise levels of 25(OH) vit D to more than 150 ng/ml and are associated with hypercalcemia and hyperphosphatemia.4 Vitamin D intoxication can be iatrogenic, due to self medication or accidental with over fortification of milk or contamination of common dietary constituents like table sugar or cooking oil."