[Syberpunk]

Had to post this as I couldn't quite believe it, something so profoundly wrong about this:

Two commenters summed it perfectly:

"This has begun happening in Canadian schools as well.
I have seen this personally, where the school actually moves a child from one class to another for the simple reason that the child formed a tight bond with another, and the school stated "it is unacceptable, and detrimental to both children's development to have relationships that strong at 8 years old. They need to learn to be adaptive, and play with other people".


Of course paraphrased to remove names, but I'm curious if this is a portion of the inclusive and full-curriculum encompassing sex ed to teach kids that these bonds are bad, hence the "be adaptable" in regards to relationships."


So the left is now pushing their agenda to disable children by conditioning them to believe that forming close bonds is a bad thing and by selling this to the parents as 'avoiding other children to feel excluded'.
This is seriously evil and they are trying to disguise it under the shield of 'kindness'.
What this does to these children in later years and their ability to pair bond is truly worrying on many levels.
Satan himself couldn't be coming up with a more cunning and deceiving way to sell evil as kindness.
I am disgusted and people need to reject any further attempts of early mind manipulation and indoctrination via nurseries, preschools and primary schools.

That is despicable. Having a best friend gives you stability when things get stressful. It's easier to deal with bullies or a tough class when you know you have at least one other person to cheer you on and who understands what you're dealing with.

How does the left take something good -- learning to include others -- and turn it into a big pile of steer feces?

This commenter really gets and I relate to it the most:

"As a guy, I don't remember growing up and hearing me and other boys in the class label other kids as ''best friends''. Sure we would refer to each other as ''friends'' on occasion, but the ''best'' part was silently understood whenever it applied and didn't need to be announced. The only kids I saw announcing ''best friends'' were girls who would use it to clique up with some girls and to spite others. The boys would always be best friends for multiple years at a time or throughout the entire 13 years of schooling. Meanwhile the girls would be ''best friends'' one year, enemies the next, best friends the next, frenemies the next, and you get the idea."

My own:


Isn't that the WHOLE FRIGGIN POINT? We get to choose! That childhood friendships are intense and what makes them so funny/exciting and nostalgic. Everything was new and an adventure, like a Legend of Zelda treasure hunt.

I went to a TINY rural primary school in the 1990's, it had 30 pupils in total. 6 in my year, we all knew each other like brothers and sisters. (No inbred jokes please). We had talk to each other because it'd have pretty crazy if we didn't with those numbers.


First they crush family, then religion and then go after not only friendship, but one of the most profoundly innocent and lovely/good things there is, childhood friendship.

Just more communist agenda: separate men and women, parents and kids, families, communities, and friends. Create a nation of cognitive impaired poorly socially networked loner zombies whose only allegiance is the state particularly in the total absence of any other connections. Schools teach social bullshit, but no education or skills. Deep State focuses on social destruction and no hard core security or economic policy issues.

What happened to you can't choose your family but you can choose your friends?
(a saying that is probably a slight against family)

[EvanWilson]

Maoist China did make considerable efforts to destroy the family units in the 1950s and 1960s. Part of the programs were that the party would send family members to places hundreds of miles away from each other; however, even after all of that, when things improved, families still got back together years later.

[TigOlBitties]

The Left wants the State to be your best friend and family.

[Aurini]

I'm regularly reminded of Brave New World these days, particularly the bit about teaching young children "sexual play".

When a child's molested it's often enjoyable for the child (after all, sex is enjoyable), but it comes at the cost of long-term pair bonding. This is why so many porn stars have abuse in their background. This removal of friendship is just another step in creating the perfect, atomized Communist man.

[loremipsum]

(01-26-2018 03:47 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

I'm regularly reminded of Brave New World these days, particularly the bit about teaching young children "sexual play".

When a child's molested it's often enjoyable for the child (after all, sex is enjoyable), but it comes at the cost of long-term pair bonding. This is why so many porn stars have abuse in their background. This removal of friendship is just another step in creating the perfect, atomized Communist man.

Don't forget that the author's brother Julian Huxley was the first director of UNESCO. Wonder where Aldous Huxley got the schemes from...

The rabbithole never ends.

[loremipsum]

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[Leonard D Neubache]

Just one more joy of living in the sticks, where the teachers fight this insanity rather than jockeying for position to institute it.

We in the West are also now staring down the barrel of government bureaucracies filled entirely with social gamma misfits. That might sound like a joke, since most Gammas are just that. But lump enough of them together, give them some power and things are invariably going to get extremely bad.

Elections are like changing the icing you put on the cake, but the public service is still the actual fucking cake.

[HornyRamone]

This is the next step in the progressive's never ending quest to fully atomize the individual, so that everyone is completely controlled by the state and turned into obedient cubicle drones that make perfect consumerists in their shitty little urban apartments with their shitty little social media accounts.

Forming close friendships at that age is natural, and those early friendships usually last through high school at least before everyone parts ways.

We're now to the point that childhood friendships = bad, childhood sex changes = good.

[Sombro]

Wasn't Gulagian that chick from Star Trek?

[Teep]

In a weird way, going off the friendship thread...they've actually got a point.

I find many if not most adults are incapable of forming close bonds in adulthood. It's like people have been indoctrinated to believe that one has their core group of childhood best friends, and then every one else is an acquaintance to be kept at arms length.

Inevitably, with a highly transient economy, these people find themselves time zones away from their best friends, and lacking any sort of meaningful real-life relationships.

I see it all the time.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(01-26-2018 09:29 PM)HornyRamone Wrote:  

This is the next step in the progressive's never ending quest to fully atomize the individual, so that everyone is completely controlled by the state and turned into obedient cubicle drones that make perfect consumerists in their shitty little urban apartments with their shitty little social media accounts.

Forming close friendships at that age is natural, and those early friendships usually last through high school at least before everyone parts ways.

We're now to the point that childhood friendships = bad, childhood sex changes = good.

Don't buy into the imaginary idea that progressive indoctrination is along that far.

There's a mutual fetish between the Left and the Right to take one example out of a million citizens and slap it in a faux-news trigger-peice whereafter the Right end up screaming that transvestite children will be flooding the streets any second now.

It's their version of meme warfare. Don't focus on their small wins to the detriment of achieving your own.

(01-26-2018 10:11 PM)Teep Wrote:  

In a weird way, going off the friendship thread...they've actually got a point.

I find many if not most adults are incapable of forming close bonds in adulthood. It's like people have been indoctrinated to believe that one has their core group of childhood best friends, and then every one else is an acquaintance to be kept at arms length.

Inevitably, with a highly transient economy, these people find themselves time zones away from their best friends, and lacking any sort of meaningful real-life relationships.

I see it all the time.

This is not indoctrination. This is pure tribal genetics. It was the same 100 years ago and 1000 years before that. The difference back then was that you needed your tribe to survive so you didn't just up stakes and piss off to where you were going to make 2 more shekels per hour.

Human adults are biologically adapted to not only distrust other unknown human adults but to mentally unperson them in case they had to be killed off as competitors.

[Alsos]

I'm not religious, but at some point in the past couple of years, I've evolved from seeing things like this as cultural Marxism in action to suspecting it's actually demonic.

It's so far beyond mere ideology any more. It can serve an ideology to indoctrinate kids into seeing the world a certain way or learning a slanted version of history or shading certain facts. It's infusing normal and productive individuals-in-the-making with preconceptions and biases that will lead them to supporting a particular agenda based on shared views and values they've been inculcated with. (That's pretty much what public education was intended and designed to do from the beginning.) You can do that without making them dysfunctional.

But examples like this point to a completely different motivation: the deliberate and systematic destruction of children's minds and souls. Their ability to trust others, to trust their own minds and judgment, to form healthy relationships, to love, to perceive the good, to appreciate beauty, etc. are carefully undermined and destroyed. It's as though the educators doing this are psychopaths who enjoy seeing happiness wrecked and innocence corrupted. Yes, the crushing of minds and souls may indeed cause so many social problems and unrest that it brings about the leftist-desired collapse of society and their longed-for opportunity to then rebuild a socialist utopia on its ruins, but that's a garnish - the crushing and the misery, despair, and suffering that it brings seem to be the real goal.

Look at the people pushing this kind of thing, inappropriate childhood sex education, transgenderism, critical race/gender theory, etc. into K-12 not as educators, but as monsters like Marion Zimmer Bradley and Walter Breen.

[Leonard D Neubache]

The difference between a state being run top to bottom by demons or by a generation of fundamentally broken childless narcissist crones is marginal at best.

When the shooting starts if it makes you feel better to think of them as demons then, hey, whatever floats your boat.

[Teep]

(01-26-2018 10:31 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 09:29 PM)HornyRamone Wrote:  

This is the next step in the progressive's never ending quest to fully atomize the individual, so that everyone is completely controlled by the state and turned into obedient cubicle drones that make perfect consumerists in their shitty little urban apartments with their shitty little social media accounts.

Forming close friendships at that age is natural, and those early friendships usually last through high school at least before everyone parts ways.

We're now to the point that childhood friendships = bad, childhood sex changes = good.

Don't buy into the imaginary idea that progressive indoctrination is along that far.

There's a mutual fetish between the Left and the Right to take one example out of a million citizens and slap it in a faux-news trigger-peice whereafter the Right end up screaming that transvestite children will be flooding the streets any second now.

It's their version of meme warfare. Don't focus on their small wins to the detriment of achieving your own.

(01-26-2018 10:11 PM)Teep Wrote:  

In a weird way, going off the friendship thread...they've actually got a point.

I find many if not most adults are incapable of forming close bonds in adulthood. It's like people have been indoctrinated to believe that one has their core group of childhood best friends, and then every one else is an acquaintance to be kept at arms length.

Inevitably, with a highly transient economy, these people find themselves time zones away from their best friends, and lacking any sort of meaningful real-life relationships.

I see it all the time.

This is not indoctrination. This is pure tribal genetics. It was the same 100 years ago and 1000 years before that. The difference back then was that you needed your tribe to survive so you didn't just up stakes and piss off to where you were going to make 2 more shekels per hour.

Human adults are biologically adapted to not only distrust other unknown human adults but to mentally unperson them in case they had to be killed off as competitors.

Sure, but I'd argue with open borders and multi-cultural societies as we have in the West, that "biological programming" is outdated.

We often have very little in common with the people we grew up with. So the age of that relationship should necessarily reflect the value of it.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

Back in the '60s, the left used to support whatever was natural. Now they ban the natural and push the unnatural.

It's not us who changed. It's them.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(01-26-2018 11:12 PM)Teep Wrote:  

...
Sure, but I'd argue with open borders and multi-cultural societies as we have in the West, that "biological programming" is outdated.

We often have very little in common with the people we grew up with. So the age of that relationship should necessarily reflect the value of it.

Biological programming is never outdated.

It will outlast the retardation of our increasing bizarre and un-natural socieities.

[loremipsum]

(01-26-2018 10:32 PM)Alsos Wrote:  

I'm not religious, but at some point in the past couple of years, I've evolved from seeing things like this as cultural Marxism in action to suspecting it's actually demonic.

It's so far beyond mere ideology any more. It can serve an ideology to indoctrinate kids into seeing the world a certain way or learning a slanted version of history or shading certain facts. It's infusing normal and productive individuals-in-the-making with preconceptions and biases that will lead them to supporting a particular agenda based on shared views and values they've been inculcated with. (That's pretty much what public education was intended and designed to do from the beginning.) You can do that without making them dysfunctional.



Look at the people pushing this kind of thing, inappropriate childhood sex education, transgenderism, critical race/gender theory, etc. into K-12 not as educators, but as monsters like Marion Zimmer Bradley and Walter Breen.

Looking at the whole plan has made me question whether the elite are purposefully doing what the bible foretold,
or the bible foretold what the elite are currently doing.

Devil only has the infamous archonic trick to reverse creation instead of create.
The values that have upheld the most stable civilization on earth were created by strong men and
are currently being turned upside down, just like the good old pentagram.
It is demonic in every sense of the word.

[911]

(01-27-2018 12:32 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Back in the '60s, the left used to support whatever was natural. Now they ban the natural and push the unnatural.

It's not us who changed. It's them.

They didn't support what was natural, they redefined degeneracy as natural. You have Kinsey which Zel mentioned above, who built the foundations of modern sexology on fraudulent research, and Margaret Mead, who corrupted anthropology by portraying extreme promiscuity as a normal part of traditional Polynesian societies. So degeneracy is a natural thing, and going against it is reactionary at best, and a symptom of bigotry.

One other aspect here which I've breached above is the corruption and cooption of science, and the use of "scientism" or PC cultural marxism in a lab coat in order to drive their agenda, think Bill Nye teaching us about the "sexual spectrum". Either you're on board or you're a dumb Christian flat earther who believes that the world is 6000 years old.

[Paracelsus]

After reading some Taleb, I've come to realise this idea -- along with a lot of socialist initiatives -- is basically a Procrustean solution to a problem of volatility.

What they don't tell you about this attempt to stop best friends is primarily to combat one friendship phenomenon. And as usual, that phenomenon is primarily female: the toxic female friendship.



This film was based on the Parker-Hulme murder case in 1954. A more modern take on the incident was the Slender Man murder.

But its more usual incarnation is where two girls get very, very close primarily because they don't have any other friends. You would have seen this again and again in your school lives: there was always a pair of girls that nobody liked, so they stuck together like glue. This was a coping mechanism and entirely fine in most cases: as a defence system against bullying it has a lot to recommend itself since the one thing a bullied kid needs -- aside from mental resolve to stand up to bullying -- is some support their own age.

But as I said, it's a socialist, and Procrustean solution because socialism is highly vulnerable, or fragile, to volatility - Black Swan events like market crashes smash the hell out of fragile bodies like banks and socialist governments, because these bodies are built on things remaining entirely predictable and non-volatile. Have a look at Venezuela: the very reason it is in the tenth circle of Hell right now is because it was fragile - dependent on its oil exports to pay for its government. When oil prices dropped, it shattered like glass.

In the educational system, because we have, as Taleb puts it, "touristified" childhood, or made it a soccer-Mom existence where activities are highly structured, the system is fragile to volatile forces like very strong friendships. The system cannot handle even the possibility of a dysfunctional close friendship, it can't unpick it and it hasn't got the resources to solve it, so it does what all fragile systems do: attempts to ban it, thus driving the problem wholly underground and making it a hidden fragility which usually blows up in a Black Swan event.