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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash
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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash

As mentioned in this article, you simply cannot count on credit cards while traveling internationally, even if you inform your banks about your overseas trip. Some great advice -- and some interesting real life examples -- about what can go wrong when carrying only credit cards. I received this article in an email today, but I was unable to find a web link (which I typically try to include).

Personally, I try to carry half the stuff I think I will need -- and twice the cash I think I will need. I have had a Schwab debit card for while, but I think that I will also look into the Fidelity debit card mentioned below.

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How To Survive The Global War On Cash
Jan. 25, 2018
Taiping, Malaysia

Here's some fresh advice, something that goes against what my wife Vicki and I have been saying and doing for at least 30 years...

Carry more cash when you travel or live abroad.

I hate to recommend cash. With cash we're vulnerable to theft and loss. Some years ago friends rented a beach house in Uruguay, hid their cash under the stove, forgot about it, and later baked a pie.

They had to send the burned bills to the U.S. Bureau of Printing and Engraving and eventually received full reimbursement.

So cash presents risks. Still, I recommend more cash because of several problems in recent years...

I'm writing this in Taiping, Malaysia. On a previous trip to Malaysia I tried and failed to use my E*Trade Bank debit card in a cash machine.

Our debit cards get blocked so often, in so many places around the world, I took this snag as routine. I called E*Trade to clear my card and was assured my card was clear. The punch line: “We've blocked Malaysia.” It wasn't that my card was being blocked... it simply wouldn't be accepted in the country. I had other cards, and one worked... but what if other banks follow the E*Trade lead?

On a recent trip to Argentina, we tried half a dozen ATMs in Buenos Aires before we found one with cash. Then we were limited to only 1,000 pesos—about US$60—and were charged a fee of nearly 100 pesos. I later learned the bank stepped on the exchange rate for another 5%; my total cost to get the cash came to 15%. Fidelity reimbursed the 100-peso fee, but I was outraged.

A day later I found a machine that gave me 2,000 pesos, twice the amount, but with the same high fees. Slightly better. But the machine only let me do two transactions a day.

I finally gave up and exchanged US$100 bills with a friend. Argentines themselves seemed desperate for cash. We saw stores offering 20% discounts, even 30% discounts, simply for payment in cash. Restaurants knocked off 10% or sometimes 20% for cash or, as an alternative, added an extra 10% for a credit card. We saw so many benefits for cash, yet found it so hard, and expensive, to get the stuff from ATMs.

In Kiev, Ukraine, two years back, five or six banks had branches near our hotel. I typically had to check all or many of them before I found one with reasonable limits of US$300 or so. Others had only small bills and released only small amounts.

India has always presented cash problems. On our first trip to Mumbai (Bombay), airport ATMs were out of order. I was informed that the airport exchange dealers make sure the ATMs remain out of order.

With non-working ATMs, airport exchange dealers can collect high fees from those who need rupees to pay the cab.

Then, a couple years back, India abruptly shut down nearly the entire cash economy. Prime Minister Modi decided to make 500 and 1,000 rupee notes, some 84% of the cash money supply, worthless. He placed tight restrictions on withdrawals of the new bills and on exchanges of the old ones.

Indian ATMs remained empty for weeks. When newly designed bills finally arrived in banks, hundreds of Indians crowded in line to get their hands on the cash. Travelers relying on ATMs could get nothing or only small amounts. Friends on the ground in India reported that even dollar bills failed to buy cash rupees, simply because nearly all rupees had been taken out of circulation. Crisis. But one day those dollars bills will come in handy.

Bank of China nearly always has ATMs that work, but the problem is finding the machines in smaller cities. We decided to open a bank account in China and secure a local debit card to enable us to get cash when we needed it.

Last October, I tried to do an online purchase with my Capital One Bank Visa card. In my experience, CapOne denies most overseas online transactions, so I called to clear my US$265 charge in advance. I went through two frontline people before I got to a supervisor. She took down my information, noted the amount, and assured me my online transaction would go through. I spent over half an hour on the phone.

The next day CapOne promptly denied the transaction.

Foreign banks these days charge higher and higher ATM fees, sometimes US$6 to US$8 a pop. My favorite bankers, Schwab and Fidelity in the United States, reimburse those foreign ATM fees. But most European and American banks make you pay the foreign ATM fees and then add fees of their own, for example, three euros (or dollars) per transaction, plus 2% to 3% of the amount withdrawn.

American banks call the 2% to 3% a foreign transaction fee.

In a fairly new scam at ATMs and online, banks abroad try to convert to the card's currency—in my case dollars—at an unfavorable rate. The ATM asks, “Do you want to leave Visa's system and let us make the exchange to dollars for you?” The answer should always be “no.” Say “yes” and you get hit for an extra 3% to 7% on the exchange rate. Be careful. Often the ATMs use such convoluted wording—intentionally—that you may unwittingly permit the foreign bank to convert to dollars.

To give an example, I recently bought plane tickets from Air New Zealand's online site. I accepted the price in N.Z. dollars. After entering my U.S. card data, a message said something like, “for your convenience we have converted the amount due to US$223. If you prefer to pay in New Zealand dollars, tap here.” Naturally I did the tap.

I preferred to pay in the local currency, which converted to US$216. I saved US$7, or 3%.

Some banks—and restaurants, hotels, and websites—go ahead and convert at a rip-off rate without giving you a local currency option. I've seen this exchange-rate scam at Argentine ATMs (see above), ATMs at small banks in France, at some hotels in France, and in restaurants in Thailand. I think these rip-off conversions border on theft. Yet more and more banks around the world will likely start doing their own conversions and using their own exchange rates. The resulting mega-profits for the banks will prove irresistible.

In so many countries, debit and credit cards have become either useless, expensive, challenging, or dangerous. So many times I've put down a card to pay for dinner and been told my bank denied the transaction. So many times I've been charged extra, sometimes 10% or more, to use a credit card. So many times I've stuck a card into an ATM and been refused.

In France and Spain last year I tried self-checkout at supermarkets, only to have my U.S. card rejected because the machine required a signature. Unlike in much of the world, U.S. cards still require signatures, something Europe replaced with PINs long ago.

When it comes to cash, we're regressing. When Vicki and I first retired in the 1980s we'd go into banks all over the world. We'd put down our debit card, our passport, and get nearly whatever amount we wished. We never carried any dollars in cash. Then came ATMs, even more convenient.

We used ATMs for decades without fees and with only a few problems here and there. At times we tried to go into a bank, as in the old days, but were directed to the machines outside.

Most of today's card problems result from card fraud. Sophisticated fraudsters from Russia, Pakistan, Nigeria, the United States, and other countries rip-off ATMs, their banks, and retailers around the world.

In desperation, banks deny transactions. Call to complain, and bank people will listen sympathetically. Then the bank will deny the next transaction, too.

A friend recently traveled to Southeast Asia. As an alternative to cash, he bought travelers checks he purchased in Germany for a 1.5% fee. He found that Asian banks charged another 3% fee to cash them and then only after my friend went to the bank's head office, filled out forms, and waited hours in line. Frustrating.

Now, without banks, without machines, we're stuck. I believe we'll have to start carrying more cash, say US$2,000 or so on most trips.

If traveling to Cuba you'll need more than that to exchange for Cuban pesos, Cuba's convertible currency. You'll need more than that in Argentina, too, to avoid fees and hassle and to get a decent exchange rate. You'll need more than that in smaller African and Asian countries and even in China and Japan, where many ATMs still refuse foreign cards.

Most travelers carry an ATM card from a large European or American bank. If you use the card, figure you'll pay 10% or more on withdrawals, including local ATM fees, foreign transaction fees back home, and now the local exchange-rate rip-off explained above.

Those fees kick in provided you can find a machine that dispenses money, and that you can endure long lines, and that you can get your transaction approved.

My advice: Switch to Fidelity or Schwab in the United States. And carry a wad of hundred dollar bills in a money belt.

I hate cash, especially in high-crime countries. But I'm resigned to traveling with more of the stuff. I refuse to pay 10% to 15% of my travel money just to get a few pesos, rupees, hryvnias, or ringgits.

Paul Terhorst

Editor's Note: Paul Terhorst has more than 35 years' experience living a life of absolute freedom.

Retired since age 35, Paul has been wandering the globe as interest, wanderlust, imagination, opportunity, and currency exchange rates dictate.

Paul writes a regular monthly column for Lief's Simon Letter advisory service.
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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash

I am also travelling with more cash these days. My bank charges me a fortune, also the bank of the atm you are withdrawing from can charge you also. Thailand is a classic example, all of the atms charge about 200 baht on top of what your bank charges.

There are some companies who offer prepaid cards with an app, the one I use, Revolut, allows me to use my card for purchases in foreign countries often at the interbank rate. So it's very convenient, can hook it up to Uber for example.

Also in countries like Ukraine often the machines are not working, or as you say offer tiny withdrawal amounts, and you run the risk of getting your card skimmed
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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash

I'll second this advice.

I decided to cycle from Serbia to Croatia for an hour. All I took with me was the bike with rear bike light, passport 5,500 dinars ($55) and a phone with 40% battery life. The typically aggressive Serbian border guard let me through, but on the other side I was interrogated for 90 minutes by the placid Croatian boarder guards as my passport had a problem which meant it was invalid. They told me I had to go back to Serbia, but on trying to go back to Serbia, they also spotted the passport problem and would not let me go back. The Croats said I could stay in Croatia and one of the guards let me hotspot his phone to get on to AirBnB. My tourist SIM had expired a few hours earlier. There was actually a place in the village, but being Scrooge incarnate I decided to save $20 and book a place what I thought would be at most 90 minutes cycle away. Five hours later I arrive at my destination at about midnight, three hours of which were in the pouring rain and with three stops by the Croatian police. Having not eaten since breakfast I took some apples from the side of the road. It's also pretty difficult riding with car lights beaming in your face all night. Once I realised how far I had to travel, I tried to book into a hotel, but turns out dinars are not popular in Croatia.

On arriving at the AirBnB, I was confronted by an angry middle-aged Croatian matriarch, who switched to mothering mode when I told her why I was so late. However, I wasn't able to get to sleep that night and after a large breakfast I biked back all the way to the Serbian border, a round trip of 180km with no sleep in 30 hours, in the pouring rain. I had about 5% battery left on arrival at another AirBnB and luckily they were prepared to swap my dinars for kuna, which I used to go to Zagreb with, booked into another AirBnB and used my encrypted bank details which I had stored on my phone to take out 200 EUR worth of kuna from Western Union. I used this to get an EU-free emergency passport:

[Image: Emergency-Passport-1.jpg]

Using the courtesy WiFi in the embassy I piped in a bit of Nigel Farage into just-post-Brexit waiting room. Two days later I got to the border and returned to Serbia with 175 kuna.

My plan B was making a raft from my bike and trying to make it across the Danube.

For extra precaution I think it's best to go with:

USD/EUR in cash
Multiple cards
Phone with encrypted banking details
Ideally same details on a waterproofed SD card embedded in your shoe

Last year I had a problem in Bangladesh with being rejected by several ATMS, one of which decided it wanted to swallow my card for three minutes. It seemed the issue might have been that general ATMs are only plugged into the domestic bank network; only ATMs in banks were on the global grid.
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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash

Quote: (01-25-2018 07:34 PM)gework Wrote:  

I had about 5% battery left on arrival at another AirBnB and luckily they were prepared to swap my dinars for kuna, which I used to go to Zagreb with, booked into another AirBnB and used my encrypted bank details which I had stored on my phone to take out 200 EUR worth of kuna from Western Union.

Thanks for sharing your story. Do you mean that you used your smartphone to access your bank account on the web -- and then wired money to a Western Union? Or do you mean something else by "encrypted bank details"? [I have used Western Union only a few times many years ago.] Can you withdraw money from a Western Union just by providing them with your bank account information? If so, that is good to know, because they have more than 550,000 locations worldwide.
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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash

Quote: (01-25-2018 07:34 PM)gework Wrote:  

The Croats said I could stay in Croatia and one of the guards let me hotspot his phone to get on to AirBnB.

That border guard is an upright bro.

Hidey-ho, RVFerinos!
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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash

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Then, a couple years back, India abruptly shut down nearly the entire cash economy. Prime Minister Modi decided to make 500 and 1,000 rupee notes, some 84% of the cash money supply, worthless. He placed tight restrictions on withdrawals of the new bills and on exchanges of the old ones.

Indian ATMs remained empty for weeks. When newly designed bills finally arrived in banks, hundreds of Indians crowded in line to get their hands on the cash. Travelers relying on ATMs could get nothing or only small amounts. Friends on the ground in India reported that even dollar bills failed to buy cash rupees, simply because nearly all rupees had been taken out of circulation. Crisis. But one day those dollars bills will come in handy.

I was there exactly when that happened - it was a complete shit show. The old currency was invalidated overnight. The Indian government didn't tell anyone they were doing this because they wanted to catch tax cheats by making them come in to exchange all their money and explain. Good in theory, but it was very poorly orchestrated. We had barely enough currency to get us through the mess. We only found one machine with the new notes, which was limited to about $35 per withdrawal, and of course it had a huge line of people waiting.

Cash makes sense for small merchants and independent restaurants everywhere. Even in western Europe they like cash - it helps them avoid the tax man. But if you're staying in brand name hotels or going to better established restaurants, cards should usually be fine. I don't get transaction charges at all with mine, it's one of the many Signature Visas from Chase. My experience is the no-annual-fee cards usually don't offer this feature. I can't remember the last time I got declined while overseas, but the bank probably sees that I'm all over the place.

If you're doing a lot of international traveling get a card that's designed for that purpose and you may have fewer denials.
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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash

Quote: (01-25-2018 07:56 PM)Tail Gunner Wrote:  

Do you mean that you used your smartphone to access your bank account on the web -- and then wired money to a Western Union? Or do you mean something else by "encrypted bank details"?

I have a password protected file on the phone. In that I keep the login details for a bank account, debit card details and login details for Western Union.

You can send money to Western Union via bank transfer (which for me takes two hours or less) or instantly by debit card. The fee for this is about 4-5% in Serbia and Croatia, which is the same hit you will take when withdrawing from an ATM in Serbia and Croatia anyway. It seems pretty much every bank in The West, at least, deals with Western Union, many post offices and exchanges deal with Western Union.

On a different note, if you'd like to avoid fees TenX Bitcoin debit cards are an option. I think there is a 3 EUR per transaction fee, but there are no FX or other fees as far as I am aware. I used it once to order something in Gibraltan Pounds and there was nothing other than this 3 EUR fee on top. So if you like making payments for large sums in different countries it's a good option as it cuts out the foreign exchange fee. Problem is their cards are currently blocked due to their card provider being banned by VISA. Also you have to keep the funds in Bitcoin, which is fine if the price is going up, but not if it's going down.
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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash

Schwab is hands down the best. No withdrawal fees, no foreign transaction fees, great app, awesome brokerage account, and very friendly staff.

My only credit card without foreign transaction fees rapes me on the APR. Thankfully, I rarely use it nowadays.
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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash

I don't do any financial on my phone. That is just asking for trouble.

I would add that you should carry mint-condition (or close to it) bills when you are abroad. When I visited Perú, people were very picky about my currency. They didn't want anything with even the slightest tear.
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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash

Quote: (01-26-2018 02:13 AM)puckerman Wrote:  

I don't do any financial on my phone. That is just asking for trouble.

I would add that you should carry mint-condition (or close to it) bills when you are abroad. When I visited Perú, people were very picky about my currency. They didn't want anything with even the slightest tear.

Fucking third world shit holes always want perfect $US Dollars.

Hypocrisy.

I'm looking at you Myanmar. Slumdogs.
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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash

I can’t believe the idiots in the OP got their money back after burning it in a stove, US customer service is the best, bar none!

Honestly I just deal with the high banking fees while in countries where the average monthly minimum wage is less than $500.
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Do Not Rely Solely On Credit Cards While Traveling -- Always Carry Sufficient Cash

Quote: (01-26-2018 01:43 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Schwab is hands down the best. No withdrawal fees, no foreign transaction fees, great app, awesome brokerage account, and very friendly staff.

My only credit card without foreign transaction fees rapes me on the APR. Thankfully, I rarely use it nowadays.

I agree on Schwab. But why would you care about a high APR on a credit card? I do not care about the APR on any of my credit cards, because I never carry a balance. If you have the money to use a Schwab debit card, then you also have the money to pay off a credit card balance within the 30 day grace period -- and earn airline points on your spending.
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