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Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.
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Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote: (01-18-2018 05:10 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Quote: (01-17-2018 12:28 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Even your example of '5s' being a problem (while a far more real world example), is also evidence of how it appears to be more about money making & control as opposed to producing the best music possible.

To sum up my long experience with the music industry:

It's about getting dumb people to buy dumb shit sold by controllable puppets with heavy-handed managers singing songs written by songwriters and producers that are in favour with the label heads, hopefully involving samples owned by copyright holders so lawyers need to get involved, all in the name of not scaring off advertisers.

There's over-representation in all those italicized fields by two particular ethnic groups. No points, obviously, for guessing the first, but can you guess the second?

Is it not formerly Christian Whites or are blacks that dominant? They are over-represented in music, but not second in dominance or are they?
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Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote: (01-18-2018 05:26 PM)Aurini Wrote:  

I find that utterly unsurprising. Is there really no way that you can publish your music for a profit? I would dearly love to hear some of it.

I consider myself retired. Who the hell would want to be part of current popular culture? It's for twenty and thirty somethings with the emotional maturity and concerns of middle schoolers. Much like current Politics, really. Why you want to try to climb to the top of the mountain if it's just a pile of, well, dung?

At least the Cranberries chick was trying to sing about adult relationships or politics, even if she failed miserably. I never thought much of the band, and only really remember them in passing for the 'Linger' song, and even then because a band I knew used to cover it with a set of lyrics that made it about passing gas: "Oh no! There's such a smell from you when you said to pull your finger. Do you have to let it linger?

Zel: Italians, particularly in promotion, though they seemed to have lost interest during the 90's.
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a set of lyrics that made it about passing gas: "Oh no! There's such a smell from you when you said to pull your finger. Do you have to let it linger?

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Actually laughing so much that I dropped my phone reading this.

If only you knew how bad things really are.
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#29

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

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#30

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote: (01-18-2018 10:55 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  

Actually laughing so much that I dropped my phone reading this.

Abba were really huge when I was in Primary School. Kids used to sing this on the playground:

"Tonight my Super Pooper farts are going to blind you
Burning like the sun
(Su-pa-pa-Poo-pa-pa)
Here's another one!
I really you think you'd better run"






as well as:

"There was something in the air that night
Eggs on you, Fernando"

This is why I always choose my lyrical metaphors very carefully, studying them for a couple of minutes, thinking of the most obvious way someone's going to try and make fun of it.

Take 'Dancing Queen': a minute later, I've got this.

"You are the Queefing Queen
Blowing steam
From your inner seam
Queefing Queen
Squealing heat
From your loose Vajine
Oh no!"

IMHO, choosing 'Linger' as your lyrical hook was just asking for it.
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#31

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

A brief comment I had on tonight's livestream (it's not big enough to warrant a section or it's own video) was about how songs are so penetrative - Zombie always struck me hard - but it's a bunch of 24 year old cheese eaters making silly metaphors about a terrorist bombing that occurred during their childhood.

Despite the best intentions, they hardly have the emotional maturity to offer guidance. Pop music - even the good stuff - is nothing but children leading children.

If there were a way for you to get your music out there, in a financially responsible manner, not to get rich - but to make it available to the rest of us - we'd very much be in your debt.
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#32

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote: (01-18-2018 10:44 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

I consider myself retired. Who the hell would want to be part of current popular culture? It's for twenty and thirty somethings with the emotional maturity and concerns of middle schoolers. Much like current Politics, really. Why you want to try to climb to the top of the mountain if it's just a pile of, well, dung?


The simplicity of pop music adequately summarized in this one clip :





Part of the reason why I listen to much more involved metal.


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#33

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote: (01-19-2018 01:43 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

Zombie always struck me hard - but it's a bunch of 24 year old cheese eaters making silly metaphors about a terrorist bombing that occurred during their childhood.

Despite the best intentions, they hardly have the emotional maturity to offer guidance. Pop music - even the good stuff - is nothing but children leading children.

I always thought the same about Metallica with "One". It's a pretty heavy song, but WTF would those guys in that band know about it.
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Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote: (01-19-2018 05:24 AM)Cane Toad Wrote:  

I always thought the same about Metallica with "One". It's a pretty heavy song, but WTF would those guys in that band know about it.

At the very least they considered consequence & surmised at the horror of losing all of one's senses.
As opposed to the likes of Taylor Swift merely bitching about everyone else being at fault.


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Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote: (01-19-2018 05:45 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

As opposed to the likes of Taylor Swift merely bitching about everyone

So let's get back to basics...which one would you bang?

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Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote: (01-19-2018 07:04 AM)Cane Toad Wrote:  

So let's get back to basics...which one would you bang?

I'll go for the living thanks. [Image: cool.gif]

Hell, with Taylor Swift.
You may even get a spiteful song out of it as a 'badge of honour' after the fact...
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#37

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Skip ahead if you're interested in the Cranberries. This is just a lengthy Christian digression for Aurini.

^ Aurini. It's due to a promise I made in Prayer last October, and then the most incredible thing happened about two weeks ago. I won't go into it here, but know that there's no logical reason for it - it flies in the face of Science - but, if you have knowledge of the Still Small Voice, then you understand how patterns and coincidences are anything but. Ask and you shall receive. Your questions are always answered, very quietly and humbly, if you're not distracted by the empty noise of the World. The more you 'unplug', the clearer the signs.

For me, the process happens, as in this example:

- my Sister felt she was being spiritually-terrorized, I asked for the knowledge to help her;

- an old friend brought up just how fucked up my life has been. I joked that perhaps my family is cursed;

- I overheard you and Pastor Thomas and he mentioned how the sins of the parents are passed down along familial lines as a curse;

- Two 'curses' in such a short time isn't coincidence. This is the pattern. I now know to pay attention to when Curses are discussed over the next few days;

- The concept of Generational Curses comes up in another podcast;

- I know to look deeper.

- I found the bible passages describing this process;

- That made sense, given my Parent's interest in New Age and the Occult; and how, the more they did, the more my childhood home felt, well, haunted.

- I looked for ways to break a Curse;

- I made an off-hand comment about it to a member in private, not knowing why I would bring up such a ridiculous and possibly-divisive idea. He responds with how his grandmother believed their family suffered the same type of curse;

- This is another direction. I am on the right track.

- I mentioned this concept of Generational Curses to my then-girlfriend on an evening-walk to what I've always felt is a place of positive spiritual power. "It makes sense. I would have inherited my Dad's Demon of Lust". (He was a Legendary Pussy Hound and always playing around on my mother);

- Her: "I'm glad you did."

- "Yeah, yeah. I keep wondering if it's a form of damage. Look at my Sister. Do you see how she's so similar to what you know of my Mother? The constant apologies, the sense that she doesn't deserve even the smallest kindness, even to the extent her refusal of help can seem insulting. See how the Sins of the Parents give the Demon permission to enter."

- Her: "No, this is too crazy."

- We arrived back home, and my sister called. I put her on Speakerphone as I cooked dinner. We were talking about her singing and I commented on how she beats herself up during her performances before she even starts singing, and that she needs to trust in herself."

- Her: "Well, I was listening to [a podcast - possibly KJ Media?] and well, I'm like Mum. I've been thinking about Generational Curses lately."

- My girlfriend screams and drops a Saucepan.

- Her: "How could she know that? How could she possibly-know we were just talking about that?"

- My Sister laughed, because she knows how information comes to Believers at the same time, like the point is to gather together and discuss what we feel we're being told. It seems to be important that we compare notes, and I advise anyone reading who suddenly finds themselves thrown in with another Christian to pay close attention.

- I couldn't convince my girlfriend that we weren't putting her on. I kind of instinctively-sensed that she's wrong for me, and had been reading how, if you place your trust in the Lord, he will choose your friends and partners, and I mentally-agreed to giving up my free will in this regard, as another message I keep seeing is To Trust;

- Later that night, I wondered more about how to help my Sister, then, in a Podcast, you off-handedly mention the Prayer to St Michael.

- I found it. That's the one. Quintus, very kindly, takes the time to read it for me in Latin.

- I gave it to her, and, for no apparent reason, I said "Don't be afraid. Trust. I think Fear can be another way for them to enter."

- One of your Podcasts, not long after. "Well, Fear allows entry."

- She uses the Prayer, and Trusts, and the presences terrorising her back away.

- We both know they'll be back, with more. You have to be strong and vigilant against stepping backwards.

- They fear the name of Jesus. Those they have control over seem contracted to verbally-purge their disgust over the name. If someone mentions, say, Mohammad, Buddha, Shiva, John Smith or even Satan in my presence, I'm fine: people believe what they leave. But the moment I bring the name Jesus comes up just in passing - and I never try to convert anyone - the Bile from other people seems uncontrolled. Watch any Atheist or Leftist. They have to react.

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This will seem like a bit of a digression, Davis, but bear with me.

- I've mentioned I've been looking after The Kid since his Dad abandoned him before Christmas. He was in public housing, his Dad was a hoarder, and the place was, well, incredible in its filthiness. We're waiting for him to be placed in a smaller flat, and Housing told us to just leave it a mess and they'll send cleaners when he's gone and they'll bill his Dad, whenever they find him. Personally, I think he's gone off into the outback like an old dog instinctively wanders off into the woods, so good luck to them.

The Kid won a lot of my respect when the pair of us had spent some time cleaning up his Kitchen so I could teach him to cook - I can't begin to describe how bad it was - and I said it doesn't matter if Housing was jerking him around, we should keep cleaning the place, and he nodded and said "It's the right thing to do, isn't it?"

The Kid worked harder than I ever expected him to work, so, for the last 10 days, we've done about six hours each day, trying to make the place respectable.

My new girlfriend didn't understand why it was taking us so long at first, until I showed her pictures of the house and, particularly, his bedroom, and she immediately-burst into tears. This was his father, enjoying his White Privilege I guess.

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He's only ever had one sheet for years, that his Dad never washed, and it was Flannel. In Summer.

As he told me earlier this morning, he didn't know there were 'these things called Cotton Sheets' until I told him I'd get him some. I even offered him a bigger bed, but he politely-declined and said he'd happily-take anything he was given. So, one new Bedframe, Mattress, Mattress Protector, Pillows, Pillow Protectors, Summer Bamboo Quilt, Winter Duck and Down Feather Quilt, a Summer Throw Blanket and a Winter Wool Blanket later and, as he told me this morning "Now I know what you meant by how amazing clean sheets are."

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"It's a small pleasure," I said, "but a great one at the same time."

I told him how the story of my mother's last year of her life, as the cancer accelerated, and I said to her "You know you can have clean sheets every day, right?"

He grinned, and said "Awww, that's so beautiful."

I'm in utter awe of this Kid. I have no idea how he survived his upbringing to be as fundamentally-decent as he is. I mean, he hasn't seen his mother since he was two, and she killed herself last year. He's not on drugs; he hasn't ended up in a gang; he's not rubbing houses; he's not sulky and emo; he's not making up weird genders for attention; he's not taking his hardship out on society by blaming everyone else the way rich kids all larp as Communists do; and he doesn't feel victimized because he has no genuine conception of his hardship, and even now that's he's realising it, he's finding humour, not sadness, in it. He's simply this introspective kid who always has something interesting to say, and is surprisingly-witty, particularly with language. As my girlfriend said, "Now he's opening up, and you're teaching him independence, I don't think I've ever seen a happier Kid."

Which is good for him, but, man, she's constantly prone to crying now whenever he'll innocently-come out with a question like "What do people eat for lunch?"

There were probably 1000 pizza boxes stuffed into every cupboard in that house.

We've had a lot of conversations as we've cleaned - and, boy, have we cleaned - and I mentioned that if you can control your external surroundings, it'll help keep your mental house in order as well.

He said, "So, was Dad dirty because he was depressed, or depressed because he was dirty?"

He understood the cycle, and he doesn't want to be anything like that, which is why I think it's good for him to clean and stay in this house independently for a while, at least until he's evicted towards at end of the month. He has noted that I'm a very... as he put it... controlled man, which led into a discussion of why I took up weight training as a teenager and he said he'd like to try it too.

Back to Demonology though. Today, we downed mops and buckets, poured out sugar soap, and I said, "You know, I think we're finally done here."

That was when Bill turned up, with paperwork that had to be filled out to dispose of the standard Housing Commission Old Commodore up on Bricks in the backyard. The Kid started filling the form out on the washing machine, for some reason I happened to look up, and I groaned.

"I forgot about the Roof Access hatch."

They both looked over, and The Kid looked up. "Dad would never have fit up there." (His Dad physically-resembles Dwayne Johnson).

"We should still check," I said. "But I can't fit up there either." We had this same problem cleaning the corner kitchen cupboards. My shoulders were too wide to fit into them to clean, no matter what angle I twisted myself in.

"Where's a ladder? Bill asked.

"No ladder," The Kid and I both said. We had to clean the outer windows earlier in the week by him balancing on my shoulders, because it seemed easier than the long drive back to my place to bring one back.

I pulled my hiking torch out of my shorts, handed it to him as I knelt down, and we repeated our balancing act so he could have a look.

As he was trying to light the torch he said "I think there's something up here."

"Probably only around the hatch," I said. "Your Dad would have been too lazy to throw anything too far."

He reached in and handed something down. A copy of 'Swank', a magazine I didn't think genuinely-existed: I always assumed it was a parody.

Bill laughed, but then The Kid said "Uhhh... it looks like there's more."

"Gloves!" Bill said, and started for the back door to his truck, until the Kid said "It looks like a LOT more."

"See if the pages are stuck together," Bill said. "You might meet your brothers and sisters."

I winced. "Get my gloves too, while you're at it."

Bill ducked out the door, as a stack of magazines appeared next to my head. The Kid was already passing them down.

"Wait for the gloves," I said.

"I'm just trying to work out just how much is here," The Kid said, "There's so many I can't see behind them, even with the torch."

Suddenly, another teenage boy wandered in the back door, saying "Hey [The Kid], do you know there's some Biker in your backyard?" then stopped dead as he saw me.

"He's up there, " I said. "Cleaning."

He greeted his friend. "I'm cleaning dirt," The Kid called down, "but not exactly dirt." He passed another stack of magazines down. Pregnant porn.

His friend's jaw fell open. "No way."

"And he told me his Dad had no hobbies," I said.

The Kid called down. "Like, I know there were times I'd go away for a few days, and I thought he'd probably enjoy having the house to himself but, I didn't think..."

Bill came back in, eyed the newcomer warily, then tried to hand me the gloves.

I shook my head, "I'll need him back down or up to put them on." I looked up. "Can you pull yourself up?"

"I've got no upper body strength," The Kid said.

I nodded. "Funnily enough, neither did his Dad, given his size."

"Course not," Bill said. "All the exercise went into his right hand."

Newcomer snorted. "No, seriously, you're right. His Dad's forearms were HUGE."

Come to think of it. They were. Still, that won Bill over to the Newcomer, but I could see there was some work to do, so it was time to stop screwing around.

"Come down," I said to the Kid.

Bill pointed. "The Comes Up!"

I eventually got The Kid back on ground level. "There's so much of it".

Bill grumbled - "The things I do" - and I hoisted him in the air until he quickly-pulled himself into the roof.

"In his bloody sixties and he's fitter than all of us," I noted.

I heard a scattershot of expletives drift down, which is usually Bill-speak for something good.

His grinning head looked down the hatch at me. "You won't believe this, my man. He's cleaned every Sex Shop in the area out."

I motioned with my head. "These two can start their own. Hell, you've got the sign. They can make some money for Video Games."

"They could start a lending library. Loan them out for bills, hope they don't come back soggy."

I'd gotten my gloves on by now. "Just pass the damn things down, Boss."

So Bill started, whilst The Kid started explaining to his friend that he now had Cotton Sheets and how I'd taught him how to get quality on Sale by taking him around all the stores in town. "It seemed boring at first, but it made sense because then we knew what the average prices were. Go look in my room."

His friend hurried up, then came back. "Very flash. You won't want to stay over at my place any more."

"What do I look like," The Kid said, "Some 250 Thread Count Scrub?"

I was so busy laughing at this that Bill threatened to "drop the next load on my head".

I glared up at him. "I think enough loads have been dropped."

"No-one is ever going to believe this," Newcomer said.

The thing is, they kept coming down. On and on. And each time I'd think, 'well, that's got to be the end of it', and then Bill would be passing down even more, coupled with a rain of fibreglass insulation.

Newcomer just kept laughing more and more with each bundle. "You're kidding, right."

I shrugged as another pile came down. "Maybe he was trying to insulate the house."

"... Gash is warm," Bill said, not helping.

It got so ridiculous, that I stopped to take a quick photo to show Guy, knowing he wouldn't believe us, since we'd already found a bundle of porn mags under the car parts on the weekend. And this was only half of it, and even then, I don't think the picture really sells just how much of it there is there.

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By the time it was all down, it had crossed the line from amusing to, well, sad, so I didn't take a second one.

Noting the pornvalanche had finally subsided, I got under the hole so Bill could step down onto my shoulders. "Are you going to drop down or what?"

"I'm stuck, mate. All these..." exaggerated "...sexy girlies up here. I caught my hardon on the hatch."

Back on the ground, he had a clearer look, and motioned with his foot towards one. "... and that's what a double adapter looks like."

"I'm glad we looked up there to clean," The Kid said, "but... yeah, I wish we hadn't."

I was trying to take it all in. "And what do we do with it all?"

The Kid grinned. "Donate it to Vinnies!"

Bill loved that. "The boy's learning! Anyway, I guess you two lads are in for some fun times."

Newcomer looked grossed out. Gen Z again. "We don't want it! Don't you two want it?"

"Fuck no!" I said.

"We can get laid," Bill added. "Stick mags are what you do when you can't."

And here we reach the point of the story: I recognised the Kid was in one of his deeper thought moments, so waited. As expected, he suddenly looked up and right into me.

"This is a big part of why Dad was like he was, isn't it?"


I nodded. "One of the bigger ones I imagine." Bill bit his tongue, sensing something important was being considered.

"Let's get rid of it. Clear the air."

This had happened a few days before, when we found what The Kid had dubbed as 'Smellmo' under a layer of dead grass and chicken shit in the backyard. A friend saw the picture and said "No, there's something bad there," and warned us to burn it with fire.

I had to say, "Already done, man." Both of us felt it.

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It took 18 large garbage bags to get them all tied up. My Ute was already filled with a load of garbage, so Bill and I tied it down and took it to the garbage tip and returned for the smut, when Bill got a call and had to head off quickly about the tow truck for the car.

The bags kept stretching and threatening to break - The Kid is across the road from a Public School and they were obviously-having a Somali Induction Day, because there were 100 screaming black children coming out of the gate and walking down the street towards us. I was thinking, "Great, these mags are going to spill all over the damn lawn, and someone will probably call us Racist before they call the cops, because all the girls are White," but we finally got them in.

That's when I realised Bill had driven off with my hardtop in the back of his truck. We'd locked it in as we went to the tip because, well, Housing Commission area.

"Look, I'll just get it out of here," I said to the Kid. "I won't chance going all the way to the dump, but if I can get it home, Bill can drop my hardtop back when he gets a chance, and I'll go to the tip first thing in the morning."

I drove home very carefully, but by the time I made it, all the bags had split and the entire back tray was a mess of porn. I was very damn a Cop hadn't pulled me over, especially one of the many Butch Dykes in town, given that I'm a muscular, obviously-heterosexual man with a tray load of Objectification, even before you could call it an Unsecured Load.

I knew I'd have to rebag it before tomorrow, but, given that it was 42 degrees this afternoon, and knowing my girlfriend is down the coast with her Grandmother for the weekend, I thought I'd put all the magazines in the lounge room and take advantage of the air conditioning to bag it up at my leisure later. It took me 30 minutes to get it all inside.

They filled my entire coffee table up past my knees. There's got to be 500 magazines there. I realised I'm very out of touch with the porn scene: back in my day when you'd have to dumpster dive behind a newsagents at night to find a coverless Penthouse or Playboy that's all there was, unless you were really lucky to get a Hustler.

None of the names meant anything to me, Swank, Foxxy, Cherrie. None of them looked worth a glance, because they all had that over-airbrushed and photoshopped Dead Doll look I hate. It'd be like jacking it to a corpse.

On top was what used to be called a Contact Mag, where you can see just how fat, ugly and desperate the average couple are. I noted that it shared the same name as the fictional one in 'Twin Peaks' - probably someone realised they could capitalize on pre-existing brand awareness, so I had a quick flip, wondering if I'd see Laura Palmer.

Nope, it was just guys thinking women really are that hard up for sex they'd have to send a letter to some random guy in a magazine, and chicks with visible fupas. There was a stink of desperation and sadness about it, and I thought of Smellmo, and thought "I'm glad that world isn't mine."

Then I flipped the page and saw what was obviously The Kid's Dad, even with a black bar across his eyes, and understood why I instinctively-picked it up. It's funny to think a guy that jacked, tall (6ft5) and, well, horsehung was seemingly-incapable of getting laid.

I thought of his house, then came in here and browsed for a bit, then started typing my reply.

Halfway through, I remembered The Kid's words. "This is a big part of why Dad was like he was, isn't it?"

I thought of his Dad's sad picture again in the magazine.

I instinctively-understood that I'd just planted a giant open doorway for darkness to enter my house in the middle of my lounge room.

I got up, thinking I could finish this reply later.

I spent another 30 minutes out in the sweltering heat, transferring it out into the back garden shed, as far away from my house as I could get them. Those girls with their plastic skin and dead eyes are gone the moment the tip is open in the morning.

I've seen where that Demon leads, and want no part of it. Even his Son understood, which is why I suspect I've been guided towards his care.

This doesn't seemingly have a lot to do with the music aspect of things - although it does - but it seemed worth sharing with you, regardless.
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#38

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote: (01-19-2018 07:05 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Hell, with Taylor Swift.

Taylor Swift is all yours.

I'll take (would have taken) Delores any day.

That might have been a good mix...Delores' mind and Taylor Swift's bod

I like the tall slim blondes...and I also like the emotional deep thinking alternate girls

Given the choice, I'll take the alternate girls over the McDonald's Taylor girls.
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#39

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

I believe I read that it came out she had been struggling with some sort of back injury for a while (had to cancel her tour because of it) and had discovered she had bi-polar disorder, "dark depression", among other health issues. So there's the possibility of long-term drug abuse too.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/01/15/d...her-death/

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But in May 2017, O’Riordan also opened up about her recent diagnosis of bipolar disorder in an interview with Metro.

Bipolar disorder is a mental illness associated with unusual shifts in mood, energy and activity levels and the ability to carry out day-to-day tasks, according to the National Institutes of Mental Health.

O’Riordan said she had struggled with extreme mood swings throughout her life.

“There are two ends of the spectrum — you can get extremely depressed and dark and lose interest in the things you love to do, then you can get super manic,” she said.

Vice-Captain - #TeamWaitAndSee
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Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

@Bosch - [Image: potd.gif]

It's only on this forum that a thread on the death of some 90's singer can change to a story about cleaning out a Housing Commission house.

,,Я видел, куда падает солнце!
Оно уходит сквозь постель,
В глубокую щель!"
-Андрей Середа, ,,Улица чужих лиц", 1989 г.
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#41

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote: (01-19-2018 05:45 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

Quote: (01-19-2018 05:24 AM)Cane Toad Wrote:  

I always thought the same about Metallica with "One". It's a pretty heavy song, but WTF would those guys in that band know about it.

At the very least they considered consequence & surmised at the horror of losing all of one's senses.
As opposed to the likes of Taylor Swift merely bitching about everyone else being at fault.



I first saw the clip to One when I was 11. It haunted me for a while after I saw it.

,,Я видел, куда падает солнце!
Оно уходит сквозь постель,
В глубокую щель!"
-Андрей Середа, ,,Улица чужих лиц", 1989 г.
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Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote:AnonymousBosch Wrote:

I'm in utter awe of this Kid. I have no idea how he survived his upbringing to be as fundamentally-decent as he is. I mean, he hasn't seen his mother since he was two, and she killed herself last year. He's not on drugs; he hasn't ended up in a gang; he's not rubbing houses; he's not sulky and emo; he's not making up weird genders for attention; he's not taking his hardship out on society by blaming everyone else the way rich kids all larp as Communists do; and he doesn't feel victimized because he has no genuine conception of his hardship, and even now that's he's realising it, he's finding humour, not sadness, in it. He's simply this introspective kid who always has something interesting to say, and is surprisingly-witty, particularly with language. As my girlfriend said, "Now he's opening up, and you're teaching him independence, I don't think I've ever seen a happier Kid."

I am compelled to speculate: this may be why you were sent to him. He may well be finding humour in what was done to him, but humour has a way of turning cruel and bitter unless someone's there to present a different way of seeing the world. That was/is my mother and sister's default operating mode. Thankfully I don't see them often enough for it to be my mode, but when I do, the habit is very easy to fall back into.

Can we please start posting to get that fucking Elmo picture off the page, there is something very wrong with it.

Remissas, discite, vivet.
God save us from people who mean well. -storm
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#43

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Months later, there was an unexpected footnote to my above story about cleaning that house.

A mate I hadn't seem for a couple of years called today and said his truck was 'loaded up', and would it be alright if I stored 'some books' at my place.

I said I was about 10 minutes away and to just leave them round the back, and he said, "Well, nah, it's a lot of magazines."

I pegged this. "Dirty ones?"

"Yeah. I've custody of my daughter during the weeks now, and I don't want them there."

"Yeah, I don't think I have the space. I'll talk to you in 10."

I headed back home and already found him around the back, unpacking multiple garbage bags onto the decking and sorting them into piles such as Swank, Foxxy, Cherrie.

So, all, hardcore porn, and he was right. It was a lot of it. So much he looked kind of dumbfounded. "There were 20 bags," he said, "...and about 20 in each one."

...Swank, Foxxy, Cherrie...

Wait a minute. "Where did you get this?"

"Well, [Mate #1] had them in his garage, but his wife found them and pitched a fit, and said either they went or she did, so he called me and asked if I wanted them."

"How'd he get so many?"

"Well his mate had them but then needed them gone too. Something about not wanting to 'take the skin of his dick'. They've been through a few fellas by now. They reckon they came from the Tip originally. They had them in one of the worksheds there but they got some ugly female bitch working out there and she started talking about sexual harrassment..."

I've run into that bitch.

"... so they started doing the rounds."

I looked at his piles. "You seen an Aussie Flesh World there yet?"

"Yeah, I did. I put it in the 'mixed' pile."

He kept sorting and I found it, and flicked through it. "Hey, did you ever meet [The Kid's Dad]?"

"Yeah, real tall bloke. Bit of a tool."

I showed him the pic in the mag. He laughed, "No fucken way."

"Mate, these were his. I already had them here. I was the bloke who took them to the tip."

"Yer fucken jokin'."

I shook my head, then told him the story of how we found them.

He stopped. "What are the odds?" Then he really looked at the piles around him. "There's so much of it. Like, [Mate #1] said he had a stack of porn and I thought, yeah, OK, but... how do you even start going through it. It's just a mass of gash..."

I remembered what my mate Bill said once when I asked him how many women he reckoned he'd been with: "Fucked if I know. It's easier to just say 'a mass of pussy'. It all blurs. Most birds ain't that memorable."

"Look," I said, "I don't have the room anyway."

"Who bloody does?" He looked around. "Like, yeah I might have a few porn mags on the top shelf of me bedroom cupboard, sure. But, I don't know, this feels..."

"... wrong?"

"Yeah, it's off. I'll take a few 'Pictures' (Aussie Softcore Mag), but the rest..."

"Don't you have mates..."

"I don't know, [Bosch]. It's just... I don't want to give this to them."

"I'll get rid of them," I said.

"I can load 'em back up for you."

"Nah, it's cool. I need to figure out what to do with them so this time they stay gone."

After he left, I kept thinking 'This means something, but I can't see it." It's just too much of a co-incidence otherwise. This city isn't THAT small.

I called my girlfriend, thinking she wouldn't believe this, but she just sounded scared: she's very protective of The Kid. "Get them gone as soon as you can."

"Already ahead of you."

I rang Bill, who snorted, and said "Creepy."

I was struggling for an idea. "I can't take them back to the Tip. Someone else will find them. I can't recycle them - there's cameras there. I can't just dump then out in the bush , there's always some cunt with a phone. It's too far out to [my bush property] to do a bonfire and I don't want them out there anyway."

Bill: "I was going to burn some pallets this afternoon. Bring them out. This is what we used to call unfinished business, so let's finish it."

I'll take a drive out there after lunch.

What on earth could this mean? I used to think 'shit just happens', but lately... no. There's intention behind what seems like coincidence.
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#44

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

The picture of the Elmo reminds me of derelict houses that we used to kick through as a kid and you'd just find all sorts of sadness and decay in places like that. Needles, stick mags, used nappies and blow up dolls.

The vibe is on the same wavelength of ancient heavily graffitied brick public toilets that stink of god knows what and the time a weird old guy kept trying to give me money for the games down at the Timezone in the city when I was 10.

Fire is the best course here.
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#45

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote: (04-28-2018 09:51 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

Months later, there was an unexpected footnote to my above story about cleaning that house.

A mate I hadn't seem for a couple of years called today and said his truck was 'loaded up', and would it be alright if I stored 'some books' at my place.

I said I was about 10 minutes away and to just leave them round the back, and he said, "Well, nah, it's a lot of magazines."

I pegged this. "Dirty ones?"

"Yeah. I've custody of my daughter during the weeks now, and I don't want them there."

"Yeah, I don't think I have the space. I'll talk to you in 10."

I headed back home and already found him around the back, unpacking multiple garbage bags onto the decking and sorting them into piles such as Swank, Foxxy, Cherrie.

So, all, hardcore porn, and he was right. It was a lot of it. So much he looked kind of dumbfounded. "There were 20 bags," he said, "...and about 20 in each one."

...Swank, Foxxy, Cherrie...

Wait a minute. "Where did you get this?"

"Well, [Mate #1] had them in his garage, but his wife found them and pitched a fit, and said either they went or she did, so he called me and asked if I wanted them."

"How'd he get so many?"

"Well his mate had them but then needed them gone too. Something about not wanting to 'take the skin of his dick'. They've been through a few fellas by now. They reckon they came from the Tip originally. They had them in one of the worksheds there but they got some ugly female bitch working out there and she started talking about sexual harrassment..."

I've run into that bitch.

"... so they started doing the rounds."

I looked at his piles. "You seen an Aussie Flesh World there yet?"

"Yeah, I did. I put it in the 'mixed' pile."

He kept sorting and I found it, and flicked through it. "Hey, did you ever meet [The Kid's Dad]?"

"Yeah, real tall bloke. Bit of a tool."

I showed him the pic in the mag. He laughed, "No fucken way."

"Mate, these were his. I already had them here. I was the bloke who took them to the tip."

"Yer fucken jokin'."

I shook my head, then told him the story of how we found them.

He stopped. "What are the odds?" Then he really looked at the piles around him. "There's so much of it. Like, [Mate #1] said he had a stack of porn and I thought, yeah, OK, but... how do you even start going through it. It's just a mass of gash..."

I remembered what my mate Bill said once when I asked him how many women he reckoned he'd been with: "Fucked if I know. It's easier to just say 'a mass of pussy'. It all blurs. Most birds ain't that memorable."

"Look," I said, "I don't have the room anyway."

"Who bloody does?" He looked around. "Like, yeah I might have a few porn mags on the top shelf of me bedroom cupboard, sure. But, I don't know, this feels..."

"... wrong?"

"Yeah, it's off. I'll take a few 'Pictures' (Aussie Softcore Mag), but the rest..."

"Don't you have mates..."

"I don't know, [Bosch]. It's just... I don't want to give this to them."

"I'll get rid of them," I said.

"I can load 'em back up for you."

"Nah, it's cool. I need to figure out what to do with them so this time they stay gone."

After he left, I kept thinking 'This means something, but I can't see it." It's just too much of a co-incidence otherwise. This city isn't THAT small.

I called my girlfriend, thinking she wouldn't believe this, but she just sounded scared: she's very protective of The Kid. "Get them gone as soon as you can."

"Already ahead of you."

I rang Bill, who snorted, and said "Creepy."

I was struggling for an idea. "I can't take them back to the Tip. Someone else will find them. I can't recycle them - there's cameras there. I can't just dump then out in the bush , there's always some cunt with a phone. It's too far out to [my bush property] to do a bonfire and I don't want them out there anyway."

Bill: "I was going to burn some pallets this afternoon. Bring them out. This is what we used to call unfinished business, so let's finish it."

I'll take a drive out there after lunch.

What on earth could this mean? I used to think 'shit just happens', but lately... no. There's intention behind what seems like coincidence.

If those mags are in good shape, you could sell them on eBay. There is a market for vintage porn.

As the porn industry churns out more and more odd-looking "females" with implants, facial alterations, and tattoos, I think the market will grow when it comes to natural-looking women (pre-1990 or so).

Also, don't you people in the UK have apartment complexes with communal dumpsters? That's what we have here in the US and that's always been my place to throw junk away.
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#46

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Burn if possible. There's too much bad karma wrapped up there (even if we ignore the supernatural and consider only the psychological creature they represent). Alternative: band them up tightly, wrap each stack in a black bag, and toss them out with the garbage one at a time, to let them rot away with the rest of the dead filth in the garbage dump.
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#47

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Quote: (04-29-2018 10:33 AM)Aurini Wrote:  

Burn if possible. There's too much bad karma wrapped up there (even if we ignore the supernatural and consider only the psychological creature they represent). Alternative: band them up tightly, wrap each stack in a black bag, and toss them out with the garbage one at a time, to let them rot away with the rest of the dead filth in the garbage dump.

They were double-bagged the first time. Tough bags too. The guys at the dump must go through the dumpsters looking for spoils.

They're now all burnt. Weight off my mind.

re: Psychological Creature: I've been intrigued by the archaic use of 'creature' lately, and have noticed how the traditional rite of exorcism considers even Salt as a living creation, capable of holding demons, requiring a ritualized blessing to purify it before use.

When I look at Smellmo, or, dammit - I just noticed a tiny demon mask statue from New Zealand an ex-girlfriend gave me on my desk that's become part of my Unconsidered Furniture - this concept takes on a greater strength. There was something wrong about those magazines. It's interesting to note that no-one was entirely-comfortable around them: it was all nervous laughter, jokes, and the appearance of initial excitement that they quickly lost when they took their greater presence in. No-one really wanted to look at them, which, after all, is their intended use.

Food for thought. I'm really going to have to take a more conscious look around this place.
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#48

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

The movie "Chuckie" was based off of a real-life possessed doll.

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#49

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Hey bosch, would you mind sharing your story about why you took up weightlifting as a teenager. Thanks man, much appreciated.
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#50

Lead singer of Cranberries suddenly dies.

Pheonix:

Funnily enough, the motivation wasn't sexual - that was just a benefit - but more from a combination of life observations. Note that though Stallone and Schwarzenegger were starting to become popular Bodybuilding still wasn't 'mainstream' enough to not have the stigma of being a Subversive Subculture about it. Gyms were very much functional male spaces with no comforts. The women that were there were there on male terms. Now most are glorified coffee shops - with their carpets, creches, televisions and dance music the woefully-'Female' dominates the industry.

It was most-likely a combination of these things:

- Intellectually, the idea of a 'sound mind' and a 'sound body' working in harmony appealed to me. This was back when Greek Philosophy was more commonly-discussed in Schools or Books.

- I grew up in a very poor, rough area, and I noticed the pattern of the older, bigger kids picking on the weaker ones. Luckily, I was a fast kid, practiced situational awareness, and knew my area well, including all the short cuts and hiding places.

- I was physically-bashed as a kid a few times - sometimes, no matter how fast or knowledgeable you are, and sometimes, shit happens. I have a scar on the back of my skull from where some older kids held me down and split my head open with a rock. One of the girls with them, they type who thought violence is an abstract game when its done by the guys they egg on to feel power, went hysterical and vomited when she saw the white of my skull. I got a bit fat there for a while after that, but the knowledge sunk in: you need to be stronger.

- I lived on the street for a while after my parent's divorce and the move to the city. I noticed the pattern of sexual abuse of the weak by those in authority (politicians, police, clergy, celebrity, youth leaders).

- In both cases, I noticed most people are extremely-cowardly and pick easy targets whilst giving a berth of respect to those who project the ability to handle themselves. This could mean the difference between a passing car full of teenagers yelling at you, throwing bottles at you, or stopping to rob you or not.

- I fell into destructive patterns from resentment towards the world. Luckily, at exactly the time I needed it, I met the Mentor I needed. He, in a very real sense, saved me from going too far down the bad road, and put me back on the right path. He was a very built man, who taught me that a good outlet for my anger at the world was iron. He was right.

Everything naturally-followed from that: I stopped being victimised, for the longest time. Discipline, repetition, results = confidence and a softening of my destructive energy. That being said, eventually you reach a size my mate Tony always described as 'Bastard-Sized', meaning 'every drunken bastard who wants to prove something tries to pick a fight with the biggest bastard in the room' (which would usually mean us). The solution to that, is, of course, Game. You can charm or intimidate about 4 out of 5 of them into de-escalating.

I'll always remember my Mentor - now sadly-passed in the line of duty - taking the time to give a shit about me. When a fella I knew abandoned his son last Christmas, and I helped him get set up in an apartment, and learn to cook, shop and budget, I explained to him that someone had done this for me, and that he can repay me by doing the same in future for someone else, if he's ever in the position to help.

I've been giving him training instruction over the last few months: the combination of getting just even four months fitter and living-independently has massively-increased his confidence. He's gone from bumbly, nervous energy Michael Cera to casual, relaxed body language and a "I can handle myself" cool smirk. I've noted he's becoming the 'i got this' voice of calm reason to his friends, when they're having issues. With his height, he's going to kill it with women.

Bodybuilding was the best thing I ever did. I highly-recommend it, if only for the psychological benefits of getting outside of your own head. But, understand, it is best paired with psychological self-examination. You also have 'mental weights' you can regularly lift to keep your mind in order, which includes regular, active work on habitual destructive patterns.
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