[Not a Second Hander]

Since moving to China for grad school I've been lucky enough to run into some very interesting people. Sons of African heads of state, 35 year old Chinese dudes in private jets and an expat CEO of a major MNC.

As a guy who is not rich by any definition, I am fascinated by these characters. Not for the glitz, glamor and bottle popping but rather their attitude and demeanor.

Could anyone self-made (or someone regularly rubbing shoulders with them) here describe to me how your mindset changes beyond a certain level of wealth.

How do people's attitudes towards you change?

Reaction from women?

Any stories are welcome.

[Cattle Rustler]

Reaction from women?
Just read Jariel’a simp stories. Read wealthy members posts.

Reaction from people? Again, read previous posts.

A search would have saved your a lot of time for both you and other members who read this thread

[Conscious Pirate]

Cue all the wealthy guys who really want everyone else to know how wealthy they are to jump in on this thread. I'm sure it's all part of the attitude & demeanour of being really successful.

[Mercenary]

I have worked in a few environments where rich people were customers.
Maybe the person who had to work his ass off to be rich has a admirable personaliy, but i can assure you his family does not.

Money to them becomes something like stones or pebbles. There's so many stones and pebbles anywhere, if you don't have enough to pay, just go and pick up some more. Nothing is too expensive. You never think...can i afford this ? And the problem with that is that when nothing is expensive and you don't have to work hard for anything, everything you get (whether its an object or an experience) has very little value. You wind up never thinking "it took so long and hard to get that, i really appreciate it.".

Often they become insane hoarders and their huge houses are filled with all sorts of expensive crap...or they start collections to whatever art is the new trend. Most of them are quite depressed though cause its all very empty and soulless in the end.

Very often they also tend to do more and more extravagant (or sometimes degenerate) stuff cause everything becomes boring to them. They always need a stronger fix to get them high. Always fly first class ? Yawn, I'll get my own plane... Always bang hookers ? Yàwn, I'll buy my own slave to shit on. You get the idea.

Also, people who are rich often think it gives you licence to treat everyone like either a spolied child or rude asshole. Stores and businesses will still kiss their ass and smile in their face, but if u act like that everyone secretly hates you.

Very often it's the rich women who have the worst personalities of all.

[Putin Closes]

Agreed. Big difference between self made and those born into wealth and how many generations of wealth in the family.

[Disco_Volante]

I bet it depends heavily on age, most wealthy men are old. It takes that long to build a business and many years of fat returns before you get to that point. Hell, even a 45 year old multi-millionaire is 'young' in the business world.

I was a waiter at a country club in highschool all the hugely wealthy guys were over 55 at least. It seems their children and wives get to enjoy it more than they do.

To be young and self-made rich is truly special I imagine.

[Spectrumwalker]

[Cobra]

The thread is a sensitive one as Cattle Rustler pointed out as no one here with wealth would want unsolicited attempts at more information. That, combined with a newbie with a low reputation level starting said thread is a legitimate concern although on the surface he and his post seem genuine.

This said, an important question is raised. If someone comes from poverty and builds wealth, he presumably has more appreciation for it. However, once that wealth is passed down, how does he ensure that appreciation stays intact within his family?

Are people who built wealth different in attitude from those that inherited it?

I have many interactions with upper middle class and in a few instances upper class individuals in the C suite of mid to large companies in my locale. There has been much resistance to meeting new people, at one point, myself being one. However, one specific individual was swayed to become my client after I realized he needs some fun in life. So I invited him to steak dinners and events with people he could talk to. The money I spent on this has been totally worth it, which goes back to the earlier post about these people being bored. If you are cool, do cool things and project confidence they will gravitate to you.

[Suits]

Sure, I can help answer this question.

Being rich isn't easy. It comes with its own set of challenges.

For example, I wake up everyone morning with a throbbing boner. It often doesn't go away until noon, which means it's hard to wear pants for a portion of my day or even leave my house. I have to have my butler leave the breakfast tray just outside my bedroom door and then scurry away before I go to collection. So what if I'm insecure about my erect penis. Sue me. Lots of people do.

There are a lot of lows. Every time the stock market takes a dip, I lose more money than the average slacker American earns in a life time. It's incredibly unfair that this is legally permitted to happen and evidence that my life is no easier than that of my inferiors, the poor people (anyone who earns less that 200K per year).

I also have to deal with all the gold digger. It comes with the territory. I'm forced to own multiple estates and constantly buy new luxury condos just so that I have somewhere to disappear to after I ghost on another plate.

So, while I'm glad I'm not a member of the subservient classes, being rich ain't easy and I had better damn well have your empathy for all that I'm forced to suffer through.

[Cr33pin]

It feels a lot like this

[balybary]

I am not rich so I have to console myself with gifs of the wealthy Forum Members

[Off The Reservation]

(01-02-2018 09:27 AM)Suits Wrote:  

Sure, I can help answer this question.

Being rich isn't easy. It comes with its own set of challenges.

For example, I wake up everyone morning with a throbbing boner. It often doesn't go away until noon, which means it's hard to wear pants for a portion of my day or even leave my house. I have to have my butler leave the breakfast tray just outside my bedroom door and then scurry away before I go to collection. So what if I'm insecure about my erect penis. Sue me. Lots of people do.

There are a lot of lows. Every time the stock market takes a dip, I lose more money than the average slacker American earns in a life time. It's incredibly unfair that this is legally permitted to happen and evidence that my life is no easier than that of my inferiors, the poor people (anyone who earns less that 200K per year).

I also have to deal with all the gold digger. It comes with the territory. I'm forced to own multiple estates and constantly buy new luxury condos just so that I have somewhere to disappear to after I ghost on another plate.

So, while I'm glad I'm not a member of the subservient classes, being rich ain't easy and I had better damn well have your empathy for all that I'm forced to suffer through.

Did someone trigger your inner-troll this morning?

[Atlanta Man]

I am so poor , I am ashamed....I tried so hard to get rich.

[Mr. Accuride]

The self-made outright rich people that I know 1) don't look like they're rich, 2) live pretty modestly in comparison to their wealth, and 3) remain pretty humble and invisible. After awhile, money just becomes a tool to procure more money for shits and giggles, to put it back into their business or even for giving to charity anonymously. Even when they splurge and don't really care about cost, they still consider the value proposition very highly. Think of the Chock full o'Nuts saying of "Better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy"...you might see them buy civet coffee if it is being sold at a steep discount, but they wouldn't be caught dead in a Starbucks and might prefer Dunkin Donuts instead. Or they may buy business class internationally, but not first class because it's 5x more expensive and not 5x better than business class.

The richest guy I know is a multi-billion dollar net worth CEO, but he doesn't look like it. He drives a beat up station wagon, goes to diners to eat his bacon and eggs with coffee, and although is very sociable, doesn't come off as arrogant or give off a rich vibe at all. He lives in a nice farm by the lake, but the property itself is worth less than $600k all told. He would also invite me to box games...to a minor league baseball team. I figured he was doing okay, but it didn't occur to me for over a year that he was actually worth multiple billions of dollars. Another billionaire that I know drives a BMW....from 2005 with a cracked windshield. He owns many hotels, but when I first met him I thought he was a hotel guest. It seems to be a commonality that transcends race, religion, creed or otherwise.

It makes me believe that the splurgy, outward display of wealth types either inherited it, or got it all in one big shot (lottery, IPO, etc.) and didn't grind it out like the ones I know did.

[debeguiled]

Some of these recent threads are starting to sound like questions on Quora which doesn't seem to have many serious questions anymore:

What Does It Feel Like to Become a Millionaire?

How Does It Feel to be Secretly Rich?

How Does It Feel to be Extremely Rich?

What's It Like to be Rich As In 1% Rich?

What Does It Feel Like to be Rich and Famous

Either that or something from US or People magazine.

Might be better to make a thread about making money than how those exotic rich feel about it.

[Genghis Khan]

From personal experience:

My dad has a networth in the 8 figures.
For most of my life, I though we were middle class, maybe even lower class considering how little money we spent. I had the shittiest clothes and other items in school.

First time my dad ever brought up he had a million was when I was 16 years, way past the age that money would have a significant influence on me.

I didn't even know how rich he was until he told me a few years back, when I was in my mid-twenties and already independent.

That's how I plan to bring up my own kids - live a normal, middle class life, and only reveal my wealth once it seems they're responsible kids/adults. I'll never let my money turn my prodigy into spoiled brats.

[Genghis Khan]

(01-02-2018 02:06 PM)Mr. Accuride Wrote:  

The self-made outright rich people that I know 1) don't look like they're rich, 2) live pretty modestly in comparison to their wealth, and 3) remain pretty humble and invisible. After awhile, money just becomes a tool to procure more money for shits and giggles, to put it back into their business or even for giving to charity anonymously. Even when they splurge and don't really care about cost, they still consider the value proposition very highly. Think of the Chock full o'Nuts saying of "Better coffee a millionaire's money can't buy"...you might see them buy civet coffee if it is being sold at a steep discount, but they wouldn't be caught dead in a Starbucks and might prefer Dunkin Donuts instead. Or they may buy business class internationally, but not first class because it's 5x more expensive and not 5x better than business class.

The richest guy I know is a multi-billion dollar net worth CEO, but he doesn't look like it. He drives a beat up station wagon, goes to diners to eat his bacon and eggs with coffee, and although is very sociable, doesn't come off as arrogant or give off a rich vibe at all. He lives in a nice farm by the lake, but the property itself is worth less than $600k all told. He would also invite me to box games...to a minor league baseball team. I figured he was doing okay, but it didn't occur to me for over a year that he was actually worth multiple billions of dollars. Another billionaire that I know drives a BMW....from 2005 with a cracked windshield. He owns many hotels, but when I first met him I thought he was a hotel guest. It seems to be a commonality that transcends race, religion, creed or otherwise.

It makes me believe that the splurgy, outward display of wealth types either inherited it, or got it all in one big shot (lottery, IPO, etc.) and didn't grind it out like the ones I know did.

Agreed 100%. You don't become that rich by spending your capital left and right. People who act the wealthiest tend to have the shittiest financial management behavior. You end up with dudes like 50 cent being $30million in the hole or whatever.

Meanwhile, billionaires like Warren Buffet reinvest every dime they can spare. It's what made them into billionaires in the first place, despite it perhaps being counterintuitive.

[Matsufubu]

I'm not particularly wealthy myself but move in circles with wealthy people, both old money and new money plus some celebrities. I'm a chameleon so I can fit in with most crowds from working class to upper class, although I'm obviously not one of them. Aristocracy is a level beyond what I can blend in with, although I do know a Viscount and a Marquis who are both lovely people and not pretentious at all. I know a few lords and they can be a bit hit and miss with what they are like.

New money people I generally have a good deal of respect for as long as they're not classless with it. Some can handle it if they've been raised properly - they're fairly down to earth and have good advice. Some are absolute chavs who got lucky and I resent them having it - not for me, but I just think with all the good wealthy people could do for society, going 'banger' racing in brand new Bentleys and shoveling kilos of coke up your nose is a bit of a waste.

Proper old money people are generally a likeable bunch, as much of the pretense is gone as they have nothing to prove. They keep the same car for years and years, don't talk down to you too much, and it's the breeding that really makes them stand out from the others.

In my experience the problem wealthy people are the children and grandchildren of the self-made wealthy people who didn't raise them properly, i.e. spoiled them rotten. To them life is a game and the unwashed masses are just pawns to be played with and disposed of when they cease to be of use or entertainment. Even if they are intelligent and productive themselves, it's all still a game that they can't lose as they are protected from risk and everything is on their terms. They also operate like their own Mafia-cum-Freemasons-cum-Wicker Man - I'm never "a friend of ours", but "a friend of mine". As for the parties...well, drugs and debauchery are the words for it. I've been at one where there's a long table with £50k of coke for party goers to use. Then a 'fucking room' when they fancy it, which if often when they're coked up and drunk. I've also witnessed the darker side of the wealth, privilege and decadence, which I obviously can't go into here, but other threads like 'Is Hollywood run like a Satanic cult', 'The Pizzagate thread', and other such themed threads about what groups of wealthy and famous people get up to hit home for me. It happens, and casual Satanic stuff is embraced knowingly and unknowingly. Thing is, plebs like me can't prove a damned thing, especially if you knew who was at these parties. Anyway, there's a reason they keep me at arms length, and me them, and my family as far away as possible. I am not one of them and I have no desire to get any closer. I've seen some social climbers try, and they get chewed up and spat out when the wealthy are done with them, and if they don't get the picture...well, they had better get the picture quick.

That said, it's mostly just dumbfuckery by rich kids, but there is an 'us' and 'them'.

[godzilla]

I got a couple mil saved up. Its awesome. I eat cupcakes and swim in pussy all day.

Notice how I didn't specify the currency

[Cuchulainn2016]

(01-02-2018 02:40 PM)Genghis Khan Wrote:  

From personal experience:

My dad has a networth in the 8 figures.
For most of my life, I though we were middle class, maybe even lower class considering how little money we spent. I had the shittiest clothes and other items in school.

First time my dad ever brought up he had a million was when I was 16 years, way past the age that money would have a significant influence on me.

I didn't even know how rich he was until he told me a few years back, when I was in my mid-twenties and already independent.

That's how I plan to bring up my own kids - live a normal, middle class life, and only reveal my wealth once it seems they're responsible kids/adults. I'll never let my money turn my prodigy into spoiled brats.

This is very very similar to my life.

My father was working class, very working class, as in the toilet was outside the house, old school working class.

He left school at 14-15, my grandparents made him learn a foreign language and he joined the civil service.

Once in the civil service he worked very hard, took himself to a senior level, and then took early retirement and set up his own business with a colleague which was quite successful.

Growing up, I always thought my family were middle class, and not the top end.

They did not spend money wastefully, more importantly, they never spoiled me, though I never wanted for anything I needed.

They sent me to a very posh private school, were most others were stupendously rich to what I believed my family were (and probably were at that time).

I look back and think of the spoiled kids in my school, who when passing there driving test, daddy gave them a new BMW. Me, I walked into school the next day.

Imagine, my surprise when recently I found out my familys net worth was 7 figures (low 7 figures). I am technically a HNWI.

I work, in a job which is paid an average wage, but before the possibilities of wealth were opened up to me, I lived a good life, which would have seemed beyond my means, but was due to the lessons my parents gave me as I grew up. Additionally, I took whatever I earned and invested it, and I have personal assets of about 200,000.

Anyway, my upbringing has shown me, as others have said, those who are born into money, and spoiled end up failing, and/or going of the rails, whilst those whose family is a bit stricter with them seem to thrive.

Additionally, I seem to have become something of a social chameleon due to my upbringing, which has allowed me to fit in pretty much wherever I want.

I think, if you are going to be rich, you have to have faced some adversity in your life, to not be a complete fuckup. Whether you join the army for a tour, or your family business takes a knock in a recession, or your parents force you to do a paper round when you are 8 for pocket money, these things should instill some common sense and stop you being a dumb rich kid.

[BortimusPrime]

Anyone who is actually wealthy or has wealthy parents would be foolish to talk about it. Any forum including this one is going to have it's share of hustler personalities and they will latch on to a wealthy person like a remora. Guys who talk way too much and whose bragging stories always seem to have some element of trickery involved. Sadly there's a thin line between the kind of entrepreneurship lauded by the manosphere and being an obnoxious little leech that would be making infomercials had he been born prior to the internet age.

[Sonoma]

I think it depends on the type of person.

For some, they get enough money to buy whatever and they then choose to just hold their money and be content to have that purchasing ability without actually owning the items.

For others they just go into a spiral of spending more and more just to reach that next spending high.

For me, I have the funds to buy a very nice car, but I'm opting to hold off because I know once I get that car, I won't ever be able to revert back to something more reasonable