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My 2017 in Review
#26

My 2017 in Review

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Average notch rating: 6.03

I banged 28 girls this past year and my average rating was 6.03 as well.

Attraction and passion are non-negotiable
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#27

My 2017 in Review

Quote: (01-12-2018 02:40 AM)malc Wrote:  

Quote: (01-01-2018 01:56 PM)corsega Wrote:  

Quote: (01-01-2018 01:13 PM)questor70 Wrote:  

" I started recording dates and sending them to a chat group I was in."

This is some HARDCORE stuff here. Did you transcribe an audio recording or did you actually ask people to listen through the actual date?

People listened to the whole date and gave feedback on specific parts. I annotated the audio using SoundCloud.

It's the best way to actually get better — analyzing every conversation, segué, shit test, and how you handled it.

I hope you know that California is a two-party consent state as far as voice recordings go. Please tell me those sound cloud recordings are at least private, and you delete them after you get feedback from your buds?

They are private, and yes, I delete them.

In a forum where guys literally pretend to be rich to fuck golddiggers and host girls on AirBnB, then hook up with them, I figure I'm still trending towards "pretty moral".

Quote: (01-12-2018 02:59 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  

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Average notch rating: 6.03

I banged 28 girls this past year and my average rating was 6.03 as well.

With our powers combined, we are... one slightly-above-average manwhore ;-)
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#28

My 2017 in Review

Here's the epilogue: How My Game Will — or Won’t — Evolve in 2018.

Almost nothing in my lifestyle puts me in contact with hot women:

I work with all men.

I go to a rundown, sweaty, dirty gym that is 80% men, where the few girls that use the weight room don’t take their headphones out.

I live in the literal worst city in the US for attractive women (oh, and it’s also majority male). The neighborhood I live in is the worst part of town where any girl over a 5 doesn’t set foot.

My hobbies are majority male-dominated — the only women that are in my social circles are either lesbians or social justice warrior, intellectual-types (great for friends, but no sexual attraction there).

I rarely go to bars, I don’t spend money on clubs — hell, I don’t even drink.

And I fucking love it.

Most guys in the community find how I live absolutely insane, but living this ascetic existence is how I’ve most enjoyed life. My utter lack of contact with women was the reason I was convinced I would be a virgin forever, until I stumbled upon RooshV’s blog back in 2010, adding it to my RSS feed and thinking “I know I’ll be able to put this into practice someday…”

That’s why, when I downloaded Bumble while hanging out with two friends back in 2016, online game instantly appealed to me. Suddenly, I was getting direct feedback that girls were actually willing to fuck me based on nothing more than four low-quality photos and a dumb 100-word bio.

What’s better, all I had to do to get their pants off was spend an hour with them showing I wasn’t a low-value moron, and then I could fuck them, they’d leave, and I’d never have to hang out with them again.

2016 was about learning game without changing my lifestyle. I continued my busy hobbies and schedule, only inviting girls over on nights where I was bored and didn’t have anything else to do.

In 2017, I wanted more. I wasn’t getting the quality I wanted. I was tired of banging chubbies and average girls, knowing that my value was far higher than theirs, while higher-quality girls were flaking on me.

So I upped my game. I made an Instagram and started taking contrived photos and building my follower base to display status. I bought new clothes. I took girls out on dates. They sucked. I recorded them, sent them to other guys for feedback, and improved them. I DHVed about being an entrepreneur, a traveler, a citizen of the world. I experimented with daygame and nightgame.

It worked. Over the last few weeks, I’ve been so busy with girls I haven’t had time to think about much else.

Yet I’m still not where I want to be. I want higher quality. I want stunners. “Models”. Sorority girls. Instagram thots. I want to keep girls around, I want validation, I want nudes, I want threesomes, I want more texts saying “I wish you were here so I could take your dick.”

Here’s the issue:

I will reach a point in 2018 where I cannot get to where I want to be without changing my lifestyle.

I entered the game with a lifelong frame that girls were the furthest thing from a priority in my life. I’ve never pined after a girl, never had a crush, never passed notes or sent love letters, never had a monogamous relationship, never put a girl first, never did any of the Beta shit that so many guys that swallow the Pill apparently do.

Rather than chase women, I’ve spent the last ten years building an immense amount of value. Ten years of dedication to the iron. Business. Money. Confidence. Travel. Zero inhibition.

I rarely got laid when I was younger because I hid all of this from the world. I’m humble. I’m not a self-promoter. I stay quiet, preferring to lurk in the shadows and help other guys, while taking none of the credit. As soon as I learned Game, I learned to unhide this value, and then came the women. I was surprised to learn that everything I had been doing to build myself as a man was actually somewhat attractive to women as well — I just had to put myself in a position to show it to them. Of course, once any normal girl figures out I’m a maniac Sigma with a weird social circle and weird hobbies after sleeping me with a couple times, it’s tough to keep her around, but I keep enough in the rotation that it often doesn’t matter.

My struggle, now, will be that I will develop my Game to such a level where it will be impossible to improve the quality of the women I’m sleeping with without becoming someone I’m not.

The path to hotties has become quite clear to me over the past few months. It is not paved with shirtless Tinder photos and inviting girls over for wine, nor with Yad stops on San Francisco sidewalks. No, the path to hotties is paved with social circle and status.

If I were to drop everything and focus my life on only fucking hot girls, where’s what I would do:

Drop my current hobbies, change my clothing style and backstory, and moving to a completely new city, change my friends group, rent a million+ dollar apartment, organize parties, throw money around, promote in clubs, and become the king of my new social circle. This would actually be pretty easy to do, and I could accomplish it in under two years. I would slay with the best of them, with girls like I described in my previous post: I’m not attracting the types of girls I want to attract.

But I’m a Sigma, so this would be treason. I live a unique and ascetic life because it brings me joy, and if changing this would mean converting into some vapid Chad Thundercock whose only interests include cracking open a cold one with the boys, boat shoes, and American football…. all for what? Top-shelf vagina?

Having to hide who I actually am around the type of people that this lifestyle would attract would be devastating. I would be intellectually stunted.

It doesn’t seem worth it. So for 2018, I’ll keep my lifestyle intact and continue to improve my game. When I reach a point where an upward trajectory seems impossible, only then will I consider a change.
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#29

My 2017 in Review

I have had very similar internal conflicts regarding preferences. The fact that you have articulated it clearly is at least one major step. Many men don't clearly identify what they want, let alone possible ways of getting what they want, and the possible disadvantages of attempting to get the aforementioned. Because - as you allude to quite astutely - it is not necessarily always worth the effort even if you could get something that you want. In other words, it's simply a bad business deal, poor risk/reward, however else you want to phrase it.

You call yourself a Sigma. I don't call myself a Sigma, as I believe this is a title that is to be earned. I would humbly still refer to myself as Gamma, and the only way forward for me is to become a Sigma, but relatively few men in my opinion manage to reach that fabled title. Maybe I am glorifying it a bit. Maybe you have earned it from your perspective or even by my standards, who knows. 10 years in self-development is a hell of a lot of work. So I can see why you call yourself such. I don't like the whole Greek letter classification of men, especially when it becomes ridiculous like "delta" men or "iota" men or "epsilon" men etc. But alpha, beta, gamma, sigma, omega - I think are admittedly useful distinctions. Either way - let's assume you are Sigma, then take a look at those aims of yours.

1. Southern Belle Sorority Girls. Oh my god, some of these girls can make you temporarily forget about "the decline of the US" especially when you compare them to the relatively reserved, stone-faced EE girls. A big problem I had (only in bars/daygame) is that it was hard to know whether they were genuinely interested because they can be so friendly (over-friendly, sometimes) and expressive. Obviously the closer to 18 they are the better quality generally as they haven't had as much time to get poisoned by "the decline of the US" etc. Straight out of highschool, wide-eyed, enthusiastic, charming accents, blonde hair.

Problems: they are still american, and with that come the usual problems. Also, things are pretty close knit and social circle is key in access to these girls. The university and sorority and greek life can be a bubble where outsiders just don't get a look in. They might get football player (or other sports) BFs or a guy from a fraternity. Nowadays in 2018 realistically you would have to either run some huge numbers in cold approach in a city with a heavy sorority presence of the kind you like, with the acceptance that you might likely strike out as an outsider, or literally go back to college and change your entire lifestyle just for them, to stand a realistic chance of a good quality girl. Obviously, fucking hard. It's like when guys make recommendations to "go to Russia" for the hottest girls, as if there is no downside. Money. Difficult language. Corruption. Shithole cities. The list goes on. Everything has a price.


2. Instagram Thots. These girls are some of the biggest attention whores on the planet. With these girls you are trading hot bodies for possibility of conversation that would make you want to off yourself. Due to the choice they have, including oil sheikhs offering 5 figures to shit on them, they know their value very well and are extremely hypergamous. How the fuck would you get them? I'm not an expert in this, I hate social media so you would know more than me. All I can say is that while these girls are physically hot, their personalities are often the exact opposite.


3. Hot gym rats. Yeah, they would require steroids to set you apart from the other guys, even more work at the gym, approaching subtly, and a lot of luck. A lot of these gym rats can overlap with instagram thots, so you get the attention whoring qualities as well often with these girls.


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You basically picked some of the 3 most difficult types of girls to get. Apart from the southern belle college freshman in a sorority, who I would say are a mixture of "pretty" and "sexy", leaning towards "pretty", the other targets of yours are definitely on the "sexy" end of the "sexy-cute spectrum". I've had this theory for a long time now just doing daygame a lot and seeing different types of girls. Guys rate girls 1-10, I usually rate 4-8, but whatever your scale, you can have completely different types of girls with the exact same rating on your scale. So a "7" = another "7", technically, but the reality is that they are completely different types of girls, and so the way to obtaining them can be very different. One "7" can be fairly obtainable, while another "7" is just completely out of reach.

The girls who do go for you may contain some fatties and average girls, but also some pretty girls. You might rate one of your "cute, nerdy latinas" as a solid 7. She might have stylish glasses, the kind that make her look better than without, and nice clothes. Good quality girl. Then you see a sexy girl in high heel knee high leather books, designer handbag, thick makeup, and while she does have a certain "wow" factor due to her dress and makeup, she is objectively still a "7". She's just "sexy" rather than "cute". You can get the "cute" girls, but not the "sexy" ones. Some guys get mistaken and rate the "sexy" girls much higher as "9s" and "10s" but that is more a measure of the "look" they give off, plus their difficulty, rather than objective beauty. A good example is Ukrainian girls who have their cosmetics/hair/clothes/accessories game at a very high standard, and dress sexy with sexy makeup, but have skin problems and yellowing teeth. These girls are usually sponsored, older (23+), entitled, and more difficult to get. But their apparent first glance "sexiness" is like crack to your dick, while a pretty, well dressed latina with glasses, nice teeth, clear skin and an elegant sense of style just doesn't fill your mind with immediate thoughts of "God I want to fuck her so bad..."

I have the same problem as you except that, if I had to choose, I would choose the cute/beautiful vs hot/sexy type every time, even if both were equally accessible. Don't get me wrong I would love the sorority girls and thots as much as you, but I don't see my game at a level that can get them yet (I don't do online), and even if my game were very good, it would still be very hard by cold approach. The "Eastern" equivalent would probably be getting Russian models, or girls who are genuinely beautiful enough to be models and imported on contracts to Paris, Milan and New York.

You're setting your sights high as hell as far as the difficulty of the girls you want, when in fact your game might not be at a sufficiently high level yet, especially if you're only doing online game, where quality is noticeably lower. A lot of the instagram thots may be on Tinder, but better looking girls online are generally on it for more attention.

In cold approach it's generally agreed that the best quality is available in daygame, at least to approach (results may vary by person and location). Until, via daygame, I have a harem of cute girls who I would not only rate on an objective beauty scale, but also on a scale of how difficult they were to actually bang and keep in a rotation (thus to measure where I'm at in terms of game), then I would not go for significantly higher rated girls or significantly higher rated "difficulty" until I'm consistent with the current level, and so on. Incremental improvements.

The reality of daygame gurus that is often conveniently skipped is that they actually rely on the kind of girls that you also find yourself getting, simply because they are far more receptive to being cold approached, in general. Instagram thots and sexy as hell, well dressed, sponsored semi-pros are a lot more likely to give instant blowouts and not give a fuck about it. There's a huge difference in difficulty in approaching such a girl walking fast with intent in one direction with a bitch face and a sweet looking girl wandering around slowly. Instagram thots nowadays regard themselves as at least minor celebrities. It's going to be very hard, not to mention that smartphone addiction reduces their attention span to that of a gerbil.

It's great to have lofty goals - and I have lofty goals in the end too - but aiming too high too soon can also leave you falling flat on your face. Of course it is not allowed on this forum, but I know guys who went to Medellin to satisfy that primal urge for "big ass big tits IG thot" by more transactional means, if you know what I'm saying. Of course I don't advocate this as a primary means of getting your rocks off but since these IG thots can be intolerable and the quality of Medellin thots can be quite high, I know guys who have sensibly come to the conclusion that it's just not worth it in the US to go the "game" route on the IG thots in the US, and they just take a more "direct" route to (often superior) IG thots in Colombia. I personally think I've still got a bad case of yellow fever, and I would never do P4P in SEA, but I feel I still need to go there and bang as many as I can to get rid of as much of it as possible. Unless I find a super hot mini LTR worthy girl/girls, it's just a means to an end: to rid my desire of that kind of girl. I already found after banging just a couple asians in the US, my yellow fever decreased significantly. Therefore Colombia might be a good place to consider for a trip. There's a decent sized community from the last I heard in Medellin. It could at least significantly reduce your desire for IG thots and even gym rats because they are there too.

You can't change who you are deep down, and I agree, it's not worth becoming something you are absolutely not in order to satisfy essentially what your dick is telling you to go after. But there are alternative ways of going about this, so all is not lost. Plus, as cliche as this may sound, you are getting far more strange than the average guy in his entire life. If you stay put, online is doing well for you but, higher quality, which is what you desire, is in real life cold approach. With your self-development, and relative lack of fear of approach, you might be able to do really well by online/daygame combo in somewhere like Colombia, if your desires are fit sexy girls with big ass and tits.

A lot of guys have banged these thots and come to realize that beyond the bang there is nothing. You are banging a variety of girls, and it's natural to want what you don't have, but as you seek to get what you don't have, also appreciate what you have achieved for 2018 and going forward (since I suspect it will take longer than 1 year to be consistently banging top instagram thots etc.)

I'm trying to let "real life" not get in the way but, after I returned from my recent ~3 month trip to Poland, medical, family and business stuff naturally puts my travel plans on hold for at least ~8 months but hopefully one day we can meet, have a few beers and work on these god damn fucking thots. For I know that feel all too well: when a girl is riding your dick enthusiastically, while you're thinking of a different girl you didn't manage to bang, and you wish it was her. Finally, the Gamma/Sigma life can get very lonely at times. Normal guys, mostly BP betas, become annoying, old friends who accept the RP but then see the magnitude of the challenge of PU after having tried for a long time, give up and get married. So it's good to cultivate friendships with men who share similar goals. I've daygamed with some guys in EE but they were just daygame machines; the importance of being friends prior to any game is understated.

In any case, good luck for 2018 and I know for a fact you will tame more strange than I will this coming year. Best thing I can do is add Russian and possibly Spanish to the to do list so that at least I can hit the ground running once I've sorted shit out here. Don't be too hard on yourself if you're not slaying instagram whores in the US. One girl I banged in Poland was a 5, young, average face but chubby. The amount of guys who are orbiting her and trying to fuck her absolutely amazes me. And that's in Poland. This is what we are dealing with in 2018. It's never not hard work.
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#30

My 2017 in Review

Post of the fucking year.

Really appreciate your insights, brother.

edit: went to rep you and found out I already had for a post you made about Poland! And I think I've only repped like 3 guys on this forum ever.
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My 2017 in Review

What are your weird hobbies?
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