[pancakemouse]

Originally posted on my blog.

The new year is almost upon us, and that means online fucking apps (I refuse to call them online dating apps) will be in full force, filled with lonely women who just realized they were alone for the holidays. Blackdragon, the expert on this stuff, notes that he gets 3x the results in January from apps as any other time of the year.

If you want to take advantage of this, here's what you should do:

Prerequisites

Fulfill at least half of the below requirements, roughly in order of importance:

• 5+/10 face (the most important factor; if you are below a 5/10 facially you should move to another country or try daygame)
• 5+/10 body
• White
• 5'9" or over
• Decent style (e.g. new, well-fitted clothes, hair and facial grooming)
• Under age 35
• Live in a city of more than 150,000 people
  

If you do not fulfill one of these requirements, improve the controllables (e.g. lift, lose body fat, buy new clothes, get a haircut, move, etc.) and once you're ready, implement the below.

Photos

Assemble four to six photos of yourself of the below archetypes. These photos must not be selfies, and ideally should be taken with a DSLR by someone that knows what they're doing.

If you don't have these photos, talk to your photographer friend, or hire a photographer from Craigslist/Instagram. If you don't want to go this route, buy a cheap DSLR and a 50mm 1.8 lens from Craigslist, buy the cheapest tripod you can find on Amazon, buy a DSLR remote, and take the photos yourself.

The first bullet is required, you can pick and choose from the rest:

• Upper-body shot of just you. Ideally taken with a DSLR with you in focus with a blurred, interesting background, wearing nicely-styled clothes (a suit if you're over 25, a button-down or something else nice if you're under 25).
• You with a dog or some other sort of animal. Only do this if you actually like animals.
• You with a group of friends. You should be as tall or taller and as attractive or more attractive than every friend in the photo. All of your friends must be decently attractive and not low-status (i.e. if this photo was taken at an anime convention, you're toast).
• You doing [insert hobby here]. Snowboarding, DJing, skydiving, climbing, playing a high-status sport (sorry, Magic: The Gathering doesn't count).
• You in an exotic location.
• You doing something that indicates you're a leader of men. Holding a microphone, giving a speech, standing on stage, etc.
• A candid, shirtless photo (e.g. playing sports, on a beach). If you cannot bench your bodyweight and/or squat/deadlift 1.75x your bodyweight AND are less than 18% bodyfat, skip this. If you don't have a candid shirtless photo, a non-candid is OK, but you'll get worse results.
  

Once you have the photos, pick out 10-12 that you think are good and send them to three girls you've hooked up with in the past to get their advice on which to use. Close female friends are a decent secondary options. Photofeeler is a distant third.

App Setup and Swiping

General App Setup

1. Create a fake Gmail account.
2. Use the fake Gmail account to create a fake Facebook account with a photo of a male model and your real first and last name (you don't have to use your last name if you're not using Hinge). If you're 28-35 and want to fuck 18-22 year olds, put your age as 27. This has the added advantage of giving you a 50% discount on Tinder Plus, as we'll see later.
3. Go to a random page in the Philippines and add 500 random Filipinos until you have 100 Facebook friends. This is needed to bypass Facebook account verification for Tinder.
   

Tinder

1. Download Tinder and sign up with your fake email address.
2. Tap "Get Tinder Plus" and purchase Plus. If you're under 28, this should cost $9.95 a month. If you're over 28 or over, this will set you back $19.95 a month.
3. Upload the photos you picked out in the photos section. Leave Smart Photos on.
4. Write a short, positive, non-needy bio that demonstrates higher value, e.g. "Dog whisperer. World traveler, last three trips were to Bali, Australia, and New Zealand. Avid cook, I guarantee my bacon risotto is better than yours."
5. Link your Instagram only if you have over 1000 followers and/or you have interesting photos that show a high-value lifestyle (e.g. travel, parties, friends).
6. Go to settings and set your distance range to the furthest range you think a girl would be willing to travel to meet you. Use the Gmaps Radius tool to figure out what the radius of your surrounding area is.
7. Set your age range to 18 at the low end and whatever the age of the oldest woman you'd have sex with is at the high end.
8. Go to http://www.tind3r.com and set up the Chrome extension so you can swipe and message from your computer.
9. Start swiping with Tind3r. Your minimum for a right swipe would be a girl you'd have sex with if they were to come directly to your house with no monetary investment from you. Do not swipe right on every girl, it brutalizes your private Tinder "Elo score".
10. Don't read bios or look at closely at photos or Instagrams. You should spend less than a second looking at each profile's photos before determining how to swipe. I can swipe about 75 girls a minute accurately with Tind3r and double that using my phone. This means, assuming 5000 girls are in your area, you should only need to waste about ten minutes a day swiping in order to exhaust every profile in a week.
11. Every day, use your 5 superlikes on girls you think are just out of your range. E.g. if you generally fuck 5s and 6s, use superlikes on 6.5s and the odd 7.
12. Swipe only during idle time, i.e. when you're on public transportation or on the toilet.
13. On Sunday between 8 and 10 AM, use your one free monthly Boost, which will put your profile at the top of every girl's stack in your area for 30 minutes. You don't have to swipe during this Boost, it doesn't have any effect on the matches you'll get.
    

Bumble

1. Download Bumble and sign up with your fake email address.
2. Upload the same photos and use the same bio as you did on Tinder. If you linked your Instagram on Tinder, mention it in your bio.
3. Use the same distance and age settings that you did on Tinder.
4. For Bumble, you're going to autoswipe. First, download AutoHotKey on your computer. Edit AutoHotKey.ahk and paste the following in:
   

toggle=0
#MaxThreadsPerHotkey 2

F7::
Toggle := !Toggle
While Toggle{
Send r
sleep 2000
Send g
sleep 2000
}
return

1. Download BlueStacks, an Android emulator. Run through the setup.
2. Download Bumble on your BlueStacks instance. Log in with your fake email address.
3. In the bottom right, click on the icon of the keyboard and map "r" to "Swipe Up" and "g" to Swipe Right.
4. While on the swipe screen, hit F7. Let the autoswiper run until you run out of profiles to swipe on (you won't be able to use your computer while you do this, so use a different computer or run it overnight).
   

Hinge

1. Download Hinge and sign in with your fake email address.
2. Use the same photos you did with Tinder, but remove any shirtless photos if they're not candid.
3. If you're under 5'10", add an inch to your height.
4. If you have a medium to high-status job, list it.
5. If you went to college, list it.
6. Answer three of the questions in a witty, intellectual way. Use good grammar and proofread for spelling.
7. Start viewing profiles. Never like any of the photos of the girls, but rather their questions directly (shows interest in their "mind" rather than their appearance).
8. Don't waste your time leaving a comment with your like unless you have something interesting to say (e.g. if she says she wants to go to Ecuador on her bucket list, mention that you just got back from there).
   

Coffee Meets Bagel

1. Download Coffee Meets Bagel and sign in with your fake email address.
2. Use the same photos you did with Hinge.
3. Follow the same Hinge guidelines about height, job and education.
4. Use the same questions you answered for Hinge but warp the answers to fit Coffee Meets Bagel's scheme for "I am...", "I like..." and "I appreciate when my date..."
5. Go to suggested and like all the Bagels you'd have sex with.
6. Go to discovery and like girls until you run out of beans.
7. Repeat this process every day at noon (when your bagels have been replenished).
   

Happn

1. Download Happn and sign in with your fake email address.
2. Use the same photos and bio you did with Tinder. If you linked your Instagram to Tinder, link it here as well.
3. If you never leave your house, sign out of Happn on your phone and sign into Happn on BlueStacks. Use the BlueStacks location feature to change your location to where hot girls live/work/hang out. Change your location once a day.
   

App Messaging

If you're playing this right, matches should be rolling in on all of your apps. You're going to use the exact same openers and messaging format for every app.

1. Open a girl with a non-needy, unique opener (I'm not going to post examples here, because if I do they'll start getting used and not be unique anymore). The opener should ideally assume something about her and end in a question mark, but doesn't have to.
2. Gauge her response, and write back, using less text than her. If she hasn't asked you a question (what I call the hook point), provide some information, like a DHV about yourself, and ask her another question.
3. If she's asking you questions back, you have a green light. Respond something like "That sounds cool, we should grab a drink. I'm free [x] or [y] day, let me know what works for you." Based on her response, tell her where and when to meet you.
4. If she's not asking you questions back, you have a yellow light. Keep DHVing and teasing her for a few more lines until you get her to invest. If she's not investing but still responding, hit her with the date pitch after a maximum of five messages from each of you.
5. If she's being combative, you have a red light. Stay non-reactive and playful. Keep DHVing and teasing her until you have a yellow or a green light, at which point you should pitch the date.
   

Other tips:

• Ignore any rules about waiting a certain amount of time to text back. The minute you match with a girl, you are already fighting a losing battle against her attention. Reply back as soon as possible and keep her engaged.
• If a girl stops responding, wait 2-3 days (at least) and hit her back with a funny respawn text teasing her for disappearing. I'm not going to post mine, but if she's riding a horse in her profile, here's a mediocre example: "<name>, did you fall off your horse and die? Let me know where I should send flowers." Do this twice, and wait 2-3 days between each message. If she doesn't respond, leave her and work another girl.
• Burn every lead to the ground. You should be messaging and scheduling dates with every girl you match with in order to cultivate abundance.
  

If you want examples, I recommend the breakdowns on Playing with Fire. He's the only guy I know that provides full screenshots of all his messages from opener to sex (keep in mind, however, that he is above average looks and runs shirtless photo + explicit bio game. If you're average, you can't expect these results, but his messaging is good).

Weekly Routine

The above will cover you for the first week. After that, you'll notice that your matches are going to fall off. This is because Tinder and Bumble give newbies an early boost to get their profiles shown to more people. So every Sunday night, here's what you're going to do:

1. Create a new fake Gmail account and Facebook event, and add 100 friends again.
2. Go into your Bumble and Tinder accounts associated with your old fake email and hide the profiles to the public. This will make it so you can still chat with your old matches, but won't have two profiles up at once.
3. Create new Bumble and Tinder accounts. Follow the exact same methods as you did last week regarding using your Tinder Boost and autoswiping on Bumble, but tweak your photos/bio using feedback from the last week.
   

It should take less than an hour to do this each week, but you'll get 50% more matches, not only with the newbie boost, but also because you'll be shown to different girls each week due to the random nature of Tinder.

Results

Number of matches per week is going to completely depend on physical attractiveness and quality of profile, as well as your sexual market value in your city compared to the male competition on the apps.

Here are my average weekly results as an average-looking guy in San Francisco, the hardest city in the United States for average guys:

• 52 matches (30 from Tinder, 7 messages from Bumble, 13 from Hinge, 1 from CoffeeMeetsBagel, 1 from Happn)
• 36 matches worth opening (rest were errant swipes or I had buyers remorse)
• 17 matches reply
• 5 matches schedule a date
• 2 matches actually show up to the date (the rest flake or logistics don't work)
  

Two dates a week is on the low end for cultivating abundance, so if you're getting worse results than this, something is wrong. You need to improve your sexual market value, photos, openers, or messaging.

It's impossible to provide generic troubleshooting steps because every guy will have different problems, but if you PM me, I'm happy to help.

Finally, you'll notice I didn't provide any information for what to actually do on a date. That's because this has been written about extensively by other guys. I recommend Blackdragon or Tom Torero for more on that.

[torridon747]

+rep from me. I can't see this not working. I already do a lower tech with less apps version of this and +1 a week is easily obtainable. Will follow this exactly soon and report back.

[MaceTyrell]

Lost me at white.

Back to Sourcecode’s datasheet I go.

[pancakemouse]

(12-26-2017 07:30 PM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  

Lost me at white.

Back to Sourcecode’s datasheet I go.

I wrote "fulfill at least half of the below requirements".

You can make up for not being white if you have most of the other factors covered. Just like you make up for being short if you have the other factors covered. Or being overweight, or living in a small city, et cetera.

Solution for not being white is the same advice I would give you anyone with an uncontrollable SMV disadvantage: increase your controllable SMV.

[eradicator]

How is not being white a disadvantage? Why even mention race as that isn’t something we control?

Why is San Francisco harder for single guys than los mangeles?

Are hinge, happn and bumble worth downloading?

[torridon747]

I think what OP meant is black dudes have an inherent disadvantage with online dating. I've read anecdotal reports on the forum that seem to confirm the notion.

He mentioned it because it's a thing that effects SMV in certain areas in the US, and if you don't tick off enough of the related boxes you probably aren't going to get a notch a week.

Let's not let this thread devolve into race baiting.

[The_e_man]

Excellent write-up. +1

[Mufasa]

(12-26-2017 08:08 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

How is not being white a disadvantage? Why even mention race as that isn’t something we control?

Why is San Francisco harder for single guys than los mangeles?

Are hinge, happn and bumble worth downloading?

top of the sexual/social hierarchy to a majority of women

[pancakemouse]

(12-26-2017 08:08 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

Why is San Francisco harder for single guys than los mangeles?

Are hinge, happn and bumble worth downloading?

SF is similar to LA in difficulty, but has the added disadvantage of having way uglier girls than LA. So not only is it hard to get matches and logistics are tough, but you have to settle in looks.

Hinge/Happn/Bumble: depends on you and your context. If you're getting enough from Tinder to keep you afloat, no need to download. If you're struggling, you need to explore all available avenues.

[Heart Break Kid]

Doesn't Tinder punish users who use auto swipe by only showing them bots and fat sluts?

[EndsExpect]

(12-26-2017 08:08 PM)eradicator Wrote:  

How is not being white a disadvantage? Why even mention race as that isn’t something we control?
Why is San Francisco harder for single guys than los mangeles?
Are hinge, happn and bumble worth downloading?

From what I see being black is feast or famine. Either you throw off the vibe of the stereotype that the women are looking for... or you don't. I mean to say that up and coming rappers clean up on Tinder... the rest don't perform as well. I think it's likely that tons of girls that would be into dating a cool black guy, just skip over them online because they are flooded with options. The exception are the women that are literally HUNTING for black guys only... and these chicks want a stereotype more than they want a man, so you have to fit that image.

This is just my take on it. I could be totally wrong.

[pancakemouse]

(12-26-2017 09:49 PM)Heart Break Kid Wrote:  

Doesn't Tinder punish users who use auto swipe by only showing them bots and fat sluts?

Yes. This is noted in the original post. What I haven't tried yet is autoswiping using BlueStacks and adding in a random left swipe 1 in every 4 swipes. I'm going to run an experiment and see if that gets around it.

[MongolianAbroad]

Kudos to the OP, very detailed, well written post, but, mind blown.

We've officially jumped the shark in the West.

[Sourcecode]

This data sheet is detailed in ways it doesn't have to be.
70 percent fluff.

Those prerequisites aren't needed. The only thing needed is decent style.
Plenty of data sheets on the forum.
Plenty of picture data sheets on the forum
The set up isn't needed.

No reason to set up a fake email or Facebook.
You can use your own.
If you do create a new on.. You don't need to add random people.

I created Facebook and same day created a tinder. That extra Facebook still has no friends and has never had issues.

Just delete your tinder wait a day and make another one. With the same Facebook.

If you wanna be extras. Go on Facebook and remove the app permission also before you make a new one.
You get a boost for making a new profile period.

I even reconnect the same three month subscription to tinder and it still works fine.


Whoever through out the idea that black rapper types clean up... Wrong

I have played the artist profile, the professional and the stereotype.
Stereotype loses every time and only pulls in low quality chicks of all races.


I don't understand why San Francisco is hard.. Everyone I know including myself did well.
How is it hard to beat out autistic tech boys on tinder? Bad logistics just means you can't afford to live in a better area. Either make more money and live in the city.. Or only focus on girls in the Bay.
San Francisco people have chill attitudes.. It's easy to strike conversation... Shit.. Just go to Dolores Park.

And At 52 matches and 2 dates.. No mention of a lay... That's like.. 4 percent conversion assuming you smash both girls.


This date sheet is way more than a "little investment" and doesn't seem to pay off.

Needs to be optimized more for how to go from messaging her... To getting get in bed... Instead of a gauge how to use each app.

[KMK]

Last time I made a fake facebook and started friending random people, it triggered some flag and Facebook automatically took away my friending privileges. What was up with that, and is it different now?

[Sourcecode]

Thread needs photo examples.

[Razor Beast]

I appreciate the time you took to put this out there but no guy who's a 5/10 is getting laid once a week, probably not even once a month even with huge time investment on apps. 7-8/10 minimum looks+body with good game to get lays that often. For anyone average or lower even optimized expect it to be like pulling teeth every step of the way. From getting matches, responses to openers (you never get opened), timely responses, not getting forgotten the second she matches a better looking guy (happens all the time), getting the number, getting a response to the message/call, getting her agree to meet up, getting her to actually show up, getting her to be normal and down for whatever lol this shit is just absurd. No offense, but if your looks aren't up to par why bother? Why not perfect a very specific niche in real life which plays to what strengths you may have? That's really the only hope for an average looking guy or below.

[Barron]

+1 rep

Can attest to the White part working.

[crudeloyalist]

Can OP suggest any skin lightening products for us darker skinned players?

[brick tamland]

Dear OP,

How can some dudes start working on being White?

Thanks in advance

[kaotic]

[zoom]

(12-26-2017 06:52 PM)corsega Wrote:  

52 matches (30 from Tinder, 7 messages from Bumble, 13 from Hinge, 1 from CoffeeMeetsBagel, 1 from Happn)

You got five online dating apps on your phone?



That's not normal. To any newbie reading this, just forget this thread, go read the books Bang and Day Bang and go do some approaches.

[treypound]

(12-27-2017 08:20 AM)crudeloyalist Wrote:  

Can OP suggest any skin lightening products for us darker skinned players?

[Putin Closes]

The butthurt on this thread is amusing. Once you get a formula working, online dating is that easy. For those who don't close well online, no worries there's always day game. It is obvious being white helps in the west, this has been shown from multiple studies. I have prefilled script that I use that cuts down time spent per day significantly.

If you are running day game how many hours you're wasting trying to find an elusive 7 on the streets in Asia.

Also ELO score on mass right swipe is not true if you are rolling in matches, at least from my own testing. Good post OP.

[jselysianeagle]

(12-27-2017 01:37 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

It is obvious being white helps in the west, this has been shown from multiple studies.

Yep, not sure why dudes are getting bent outta shape over that one. It sucks but is just another reason to GTFO the west lol. That said, I do know a few Asian/Black guys that do well online, so it's not impossible either.

If you can't crack these apps just go the old fashioned route - day/night game or social circle.