[Syberpunk]

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/lord-of-...202606519/

http://deadline.com/2017/11/lord-of-the-...202201636/

Can't wait for the moral relativism, we must "understand" the enemy, bastardized inside out. Can't wait for the whole story to be repurposed for the globalist's aims. It will go from "I am no man" to "There are no men!!!"

"This was how LOTR as it was always meant/intended to be", they'll scream.

I recently finished reading the trilogy and its a miracle the films are as good as they are. Hats off to them.

Beyond depressing...

[Mage]

This is ridiculous how holywood just keep making remakes and reboots, look how spiderman has a new remake series every two years.


The latest LoTR movies are excellent and there is no need to remake them, maybe after 50 years, but definitely not now. The only reason why someone would want to do that is probably to introduce more liberal agenda - my prediction it will be a love triangle between Gandalf the vibrant, Frodo and Sam. Gandalf will make love to Frodo to push pedophilia and Sam will be the beta orbiter trying to do the best to get noticed by his master. Also Aragon will be completely written out an Eowyn will do everything he does, including marrying the elven princess in the end. Oh and Legolas will be a brown muslim, because we can't have elves standing in for a superior race of white people. Sauron will make a physical appearance trough and he will be the whitest dude ever seen, maybe played by Mel Gibson.


Honestly I can't imagine how they will rewrite the plot, because LoTR at it's core is the most pro border tale ever. Gandalf is a figure literally interchangeable with Trump. And Sauron is pretty much interchangable with the now incorporeal but ever present Mohammad and the latest incarnation of the latest self proclaimed Calif. Saruman would be lesser evil from a different direction - maybe a Mexican drug lord

[N°6]

I was thinking yesterday how surprising it was that Peter Jackson got away with the LOTR trilogy. Maybe he took the scions of Hollywood by surprise but then he did it again with the Hobbit.

The remake will be brutal = worse than the new Star Trek.

[Nordwand]

The Rohan charge in "Return of the King":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vienna.

[Paracelsus]

(11-04-2017 08:00 AM)Syberpunk Wrote:  

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/lord-of-...202606519/

http://deadline.com/2017/11/lord-of-the-...202201636/

Can't wait for the moral relativism, we must "understand" the enemy, bastardized inside out. Can't wait for the whole story to be repurposed for the globalist's aims. It will go from "I am no man" to "There are no men!!!"

"This was how LOTR as it was always meant/intended to be", they'll scream.

I recently finished reading the trilogy and its a miracle the films are as good as they are. Hats off to them.

Beyond depressing...

[Sonoma]

Why would they remake a perfectly good trilogy?

It's been done well already, and recently enough you could probably just use nearly all the same actors without issue.

Unless they're more just trying to create a series set in middle earth, which would be more reasonable and seemingly more likely. The Tolkien canon is pretty expansive

[Alsos]

Dumb.

What they ought to do instead is adapt the Silmarillion and other related materials, with Jackson's style (and possibly involvement), as complements to the movie trilogies. Hire different up-and-coming writers and directors to do short (1-3 episode) installments adapting particular stories, using the same aesthetics and tone to hold it all together. Have a single small team of story developers overseeing the work to also keep the storytelling consistent and faithful to the source material (but allowing for actual stories to be developed from Tolkien's originals, which were often documentary in tone or fragmentary rather than fully-developed stories).

This would avoid stepping on the Jackson movies, which (for all the Hobbit trilogy's problems) would be hard to top. Indeed, those films have a huge fan base to build on (guaranteed audience), and reusing the costuming, makeup effects, settings, and other design work that Jackson developed for the first trilogy would actually save Amazon a huge amount of money on production (lower cost per episode). Plus they'd have the opportunity to build a farm team of genre writers and directors that they could springboard into other series - Amazon having declared they want to develop their own GOT-class genre juggernaut.

That would be a smart thing to do. Which is why I expect Mage's predictions to be more on the mark.

A hilariously black-pill alternative would be to adapt that book that re-tells LOTR from Sauron's perspective, but made extra fresh with parodies of SJWism and nods to current events. Show the forces of Mordor as insurgent Middle-Earthers of Color fighting back after thousands of years against:
- Aggressive colonization and occupation (the Numenorians stole ME from its native inhabitants after greed and ambition caused their own homeland to be destroyed by climate change; now they want Mordor and Angmar)
- Religious intolerance (men and elves have persecuted the harmless, innocent worshippers of Morgoth and Sauron for millennia, motivated by straight-up melkorphobia)
- Cultural appropriation (the elves and men and dwarves adopted Sauron's jewelry habits, some men actually stole the speech and habits of Mordor, and several men and one Maia actually tried to take Sauron's magical abilities as their own!)
- Racism (need one really elaborate?)
- Ableism (elves and men reject not only those in twisted orcish and uruk-hai bodies but most especially those in no bodies at all - I can't even!)
- Violent speech (with all their names and kennings and such the various languages of Middle Earth's supposed heroes are nothing but propaganda vehicles for othering the Other and demonizing the de-- er, marginalized)
- Mass gendercide (you don't see any female orcs because of the rape culture of the supposedly heroic side - nobody talks about this)
- Entitled Numenorian supremacism (magical bloodlines justifying rule over all other Men are not okay, nor is summoning armies of lesser Men and other beings to establish that rule for you because "muh throne!")

Endless possibilities there.

[questor70]

(11-04-2017 08:00 AM)Syberpunk Wrote:  

Can't wait for the moral relativism, we must "understand" the enemy,

Wasn't that already the plot of the Warcraft movie? That orcs and men had a chance to live in peace?

Nobody really knows how this would be handled yet, though. As much as I appreciated Peter Jackson's LOTR upon first viewing, it hasn't held up as well as I once thought it would, other than maybe for Fellowship. I could live with fewer helicopter style crane shots dollying into bigatures and slow-motion.

[Foolsgo1d]

The first trilogy of LOTR is quite real when compared to the Western nations over the last few years. Invasions of foreign savages aided by traitors and weak leaders listening to whispers of agents of chaos. Battles to defend the walls as they're overrun with few reinforcements until a single man rallies them.

Problem is LOTR didn't have communists or Islamists and the enemy is already inside the gates and the soldiers are inside their barracks.

[Repo]

I have to assume this is for a series based in the LOTR universe, and not for LOTR.

[El Chinito loco]

(11-04-2017 04:53 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

The first trilogy of LOTR is quite real when compared to the Western nations over the last few years. Invasions of foreign savages aided by traitors and weak leaders listening to whispers of agents of chaos. Battles to defend the walls as they're overrun with few reinforcements until a single man rallies them.

(((Wormtongue Goldberg)))

Yep there was lots of red pill stuff in the Lotr novels and a few moments in the film adaptation.

Too much singing and dancing faggotry in the original books though but Tolkien was a language and poetry sperg.

[spokepoker]

This is for a TV series, not movies. I say go ahead, maybe they can get closer to the books and put in all the stuff they had to cut for the movies.
It'd probably have to be 2 seasons, seeing as how each movie was 3 hrs (or seemed like it), so 1 hr episodes, ten per season, should be able to get everything from the books on screen.

[Mage]

(11-04-2017 08:18 PM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

Too much singing and dancing faggotry in the original books though but Tolkien was a language and poetry sperg.

Before Radio and TV was invented people used to sing and dance a lot to entertain themselves in real world too. It was a big part of life. I would argue it was healthier then sitting in front of a box and watching only select professionals do this while eating junk food. Since sexes were more segregated in their duties it was normal for groups of women to sing while knitting or for groups of men to sing while drinking or riding or traveling. Also it was normal and not faggotry for men to dance in between themselves, obviously not the modern types of dances where one is a lead and the other follows, like salsa or waltz, those are dances for man and women, but there were man only dances and female only dances in past.

[questor70]

LOTR is in many ways an ode to MGTOW / bromance. Of course, SJWs interpret the male-bonding of, let's say, Sam and Frodo, as gay. That's not how it was intended, however.

Tolkien was a WWI vet and any war veteran knows that the bonding that happens in the trenches is stronger than some ordinary romance. Nevertheless, Tolkien was blue-pill in finding certain select women to pedestalize. Of course, in his stories they DESERVED the pedestalization. When you build your own universe you make your own rules. It's high fantasy, not a documentary.

[Syberpunk]

(11-05-2017 10:10 AM)questor70 Wrote:  

LOTR is in many ways an ode to MGTOW / bromance. Of course, SJWs interpret the male-bonding of, let's say, Sam and Frodo, as gay. That's not how it was intended, however.

Tolkien was a WWI vet and any war veteran knows that the bonding that happens in the trenches is stronger than some ordinary romance.

They touch on that in this video, the lack of male bonding/fellowship in modern stories.

[Easy_C]

(11-04-2017 08:00 AM)Syberpunk Wrote:  

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/lord-of-...202606519/

http://deadline.com/2017/11/lord-of-the-...202201636/

Can't wait for the moral relativism, we must "understand" the enemy, bastardized inside out. Can't wait for the whole story to be repurposed for the globalist's aims. It will go from "I am no man" to "There are no men!!!"

Unless the enemy is white males. Then they're literaly Hitler.

Or in this case, literally Sauron. I'm morbidly curious to see how they're going to find a way to make a connection between Trump voters and orcs.