[bgbusiness]

I have realized through my experience and pattern recognition that if a girl is Indian (especially an immigrant and not Americanized), I will probably just NEXT her Hard.

My experiences are as follows:

1.A girl working as a cashier at a shop.
I accidently brought up some sandwich that I paid for at the entrance. You need to pay first so that they make a sandwich for you here and then you exit. I went up to the other cashier, trying to pay, I was tired, jaded, losing sleep, so I didn't know why I did that. This fucking Indian chick looks at it like she doesn’t know what it is...?
I immediately know that she will try to bullshit this situation.
I ask her, "Am I allowed to pay for this at the other register?"
(I already did, but I just asked her because I was confused why they had two registers.)
She says that, "They don’t.” with a firm voice, but her head and eye contact is shivering so I know it’s fucking bullshit, she was new to the sandwich shop also. I have never seen there.

I am like, "What? I am pretty sure, I just want to double check."
She says, "Yeah you right." reluctantly.

What the actually fucking bullshit. I have had experiences like this over 5 times with chicks that I barely know who try to just BS me so they can have short-term comfort. I am like "what...?"

2.Ms. Patel.
So this chick I got a number from one of my classes, I knew something was wrong with her when I invited her to an event. The event was at 6pm, she texted me at 6:30 that she can't make it. I thought she will never text.
So she has me on snapchat, has seen me partying, sleeping around, going to clubbing, having dinner with girls and just crazy amount of social proof, being ambitious and stuff...
I asked her again couple time throughout almost 2 years of knowing her, I was always banging chicks and going out, so it wasn't a huge effort...
She finally tells me that she is down to hang out, dressed to KILL, shows me all the signs that she likes me, but never texted me back.
Before this "date", she would see me in public, but would always just look away, but would respond to my texts, it was super weird.
This is when I realized that girls really can't be GOOD friends.
Almost 2 years of social capital and social currency built, just GONE.

I have consulted with several of my friends, they told me that, this chick was probably just using me as attention and validation. She is not interested in dating anybody and her ASD is crazy super high even though she knows that people are having sex.

3. Chick opens me.
This chick walks up to me, opens me after a class, then just stood there when I shook her hand and introduced myself. I had to bounce after 30 seconds of silence because I had shit to do.
One of the WEIRDEST experiences EVER.
We add each other on FB, both liked each others profile pic, I asked her why she didn't say anything, she just makes up an excuse that she was trying to ask about HW. <- obviously a bullshit.
Then I was busy and didn't respond to her for 3 hours, she just unfriended me, then I was like WTF? So I told her, if she wants to grab coffee with me, she could have just asked me through messenger. Then she blocked me.

These are some of the examples and not even 10% of my weird experiences with these Indian chicks.

Again, I am not racist and I love Indian girls, I think they are really sexy.
Their skin color, the skinny and tight body.
I love their food and their culture where they emphasize on family and loyalty. I just think that majority of the girls who are 18~24 play hardcore mind games and flirt like 13 year olds.

I think these girls are just content with putting guys in the "friend zone" or "beta orbiter zone" and not really interested in seriously dating. I think most of them are used to beta Indian guys and don't really know how to actually flirt and start to date. They don't have a clue.

They are just fantasizing in their head and most of them are virgins according to my experience.

I am at the point where if she is Indian, she has to come up to me and just straight up ask me out, or else I won't make a move. I have decided to not associate myself with Indian chicks in the future.

[pancakemouse]

I've been with two actual Indian girls (read: girls that actually grew up in India). Both were 20-21 years old.

First was a bitchy 8 sorority girl, one of, if not the hottest girls I've ever had in my bed. Thai mom, Indian dad, came here for college. Shit tests for days and her personality was such a turnoff I couldn't get hard.

Second was my regular fuckbuddy this summer. Came to the US for college. Also gave tons of shit tests but some of the best sex I've ever had, loved to be dominated. Her shit tests were really easy to defuse, If I just stayed silent for a couple seconds she would recant.

So my very small anecdotal experience matches up somewhat with yours.

[True Balla]

Well I mean this is just a lot of generalization so Ill try to address what I can. But first of all, its definitely going to depend on what race you are. If you're not Indian, and she wants an Indian guy, you're shit out of luck. Also, it's very common that Indian girls want Indian guys (parental pressure, social circles, etc.)

Your situations:
1. It doesn't sound like you even spit game. Seemed like she was diffusing the situation by telling you you're right so you would move on instead of being mad. I don't see anything wrong with this situation, you chose a poor approach.

2. Well, there could be plenty of reasons...
A. She saw you as a friend and stopped replying once she realized you wanted more (most likely the case) because she wants an Indian guy in theory.
B. You said you fuck a lot of girls, maybe she didn't want to ride the carousel
C. You said you party a lot and seem cool with lots of friends, well maybe she wanted to have a night out and thought it was normal for you to invite friends out

3. I mean yeah Indian girls can be socially awkward. But in my experience, most women just suck in conversing. Whenever this happens to me, I take lead if she doesn't respond after a few seconds. Again, I don't see where you were gaming her past introducing yourself.
A. Maybe she just had a question about Hw...
B. You probably came off too strong. You gotta play it really slow. As you said, most are virgins.


There's also just a large variety of Indian girls and how they grew up. There is American raised with strict parents, American raised with chill/loose parents, Indian raised with loose parents who came to US, Indian raised with strict parents, etc.

But I mean if they're hot, they're gonna get a lot of attention. Especially by all those beta Indian guys, so they'll be used to it. You're going to have to game really hard and stand out to be worth something.

PS. I don't think most Indian guys are as beta as you may think. Im 5'8 and a regular Indian looking guy that you would probably just think is a beta buck if you saw me around. However, I have multiple companies, network well, super polished when I want to be, and probably can have a variety of factors in which you may or may not be able to compete (money, success, etc). This isn't a diss or anything, but most Indian-Americans are quite wealthy. I know my social circle is all Hotel owners, Doctors, Dentists, Pharmacists, Investment Bankers, etc. as far as my Indian friends go. I think I bring a lot to the table in terms of game, even if I come off as beta. And, there's probably 10 of me spitting at a hot Indian girl at any given time. If she's 8+, then thats 100+ guys probably. Also, most Indian guys are greedy so they all just hit on the super hot ones, even if they're ugly. You'll have to beat some of those beta's in terms of time put in sometimes. And some of the Alpha's in terms of what you bring to the table. As you know, it's all situation but just wanted to give you my perspective.

[bgbusiness]

(10-31-2017 01:28 AM)True Balla Wrote:  

Well I mean this is just a lot of generalization so Ill try to address what I can. But first of all, its definitely going to depend on what race you are. If you're not Indian, and she wants an Indian guy, you're shit out of luck. Also, it's very common that Indian girls want Indian guys (parental pressure, social circles, etc.)

Your situations:
1. It doesn't sound like you even spit game. Seemed like she was diffusing the situation by telling you you're right so you would move on instead of being mad. I don't see anything wrong with this situation, you chose a poor approach.

2. Well, there could be plenty of reasons...
A. She saw you as a friend and stopped replying once she realized you wanted more (most likely the case) because she wants an Indian guy in theory.
B. You said you fuck a lot of girls, maybe she didn't want to ride the carousel
C. You said you party a lot and seem cool with lots of friends, well maybe she wanted to have a night out and thought it was normal for you to invite friends out

3. I mean yeah Indian girls can be socially awkward. But in my experience, most women just suck in conversing. Whenever this happens to me, I take lead if she doesn't respond after a few seconds. Again, I don't see where you were gaming her past introducing yourself.
A. Maybe she just had a question about Hw...
B. You probably came off too strong. You gotta play it really slow. As you said, most are virgins.


There's also just a large variety of Indian girls and how they grew up. There is American raised with strict parents, American raised with chill/loose parents, Indian raised with loose parents who came to US, Indian raised with strict parents, etc.

It wasn't an approach, I did not try to GAME her especially cashier chick and the girl who opened me. They were not really my type and were not HOT.

I am just saying it was a weird interaction and I did not see the point in the cashier chick trying to BS me. She would have not gained anything.

And you are missing the point. That's not the POINT...If a girl is approaching me in class, she should lead the convo, SHE FAILED. You have a misunderstanding. I am not trying to spit any game to these girls.

It's weird when I see an Indian chick who is an 7, I tend to have way harder time gaming her compared to if she was 7 Asian or 7 White.
It's not that they are super attractive dude, I am just seeing these behaviors from Indian girls only.

[True Balla]

(10-31-2017 02:41 AM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 01:28 AM)True Balla Wrote:  

Well I mean this is just a lot of generalization so Ill try to address what I can. But first of all, its definitely going to depend on what race you are. If you're not Indian, and she wants an Indian guy, you're shit out of luck. Also, it's very common that Indian girls want Indian guys (parental pressure, social circles, etc.)

Your situations:
1. It doesn't sound like you even spit game. Seemed like she was diffusing the situation by telling you you're right so you would move on instead of being mad. I don't see anything wrong with this situation, you chose a poor approach.

2. Well, there could be plenty of reasons...
A. She saw you as a friend and stopped replying once she realized you wanted more (most likely the case) because she wants an Indian guy in theory.
B. You said you fuck a lot of girls, maybe she didn't want to ride the carousel
C. You said you party a lot and seem cool with lots of friends, well maybe she wanted to have a night out and thought it was normal for you to invite friends out

3. I mean yeah Indian girls can be socially awkward. But in my experience, most women just suck in conversing. Whenever this happens to me, I take lead if she doesn't respond after a few seconds. Again, I don't see where you were gaming her past introducing yourself.
A. Maybe she just had a question about Hw...
B. You probably came off too strong. You gotta play it really slow. As you said, most are virgins.


There's also just a large variety of Indian girls and how they grew up. There is American raised with strict parents, American raised with chill/loose parents, Indian raised with loose parents who came to US, Indian raised with strict parents, etc.

It wasn't an approach, I did not try to GAME her especially cashier chick and the girl who opened me. They were not really my type and were not HOT.

I am just saying it was a weird interaction and I did not see the point in the cashier chick trying to BS me. She would have not gained anything.

And you are missing the point. That's not the POINT...If a girl is approaching me in class, she should lead the convo, SHE FAILED. You have a misunderstanding. I am not trying to spit any game to these girls.

It's weird when I see an Indian chick who is an 7, I tend to have way harder time gaming her compared to if she was 7 Asian or 7 White.
It's not that they are super attractive dude, I am just seeing these behaviors from Indian girls only.

Got it. Yep, they're just raised conservative and do not get as much practice with social interaction. Parents encourage them to dive into and concentrate on studies.

I do agree that Indian 7's are harder. I think its the aspect above where they get a lot of attention, so there's just less they have to do or learn/reciprocate as far as social interaction. I agree with you and it sucks.

[TheFinalEpic]

Princess Jasmine Syndrome

[Chicopicante]

Indian girls are fucking trash, dude. They're the poor man's Latina.

[musampa]

Sounds like the cashier was not f@cked well for a long time.

[jselysianeagle]

(10-31-2017 01:28 AM)True Balla Wrote:  

PS. I don't think most Indian guys are as beta as you may think. Im 5'8 and a regular Indian looking guy that you would probably just think is a beta buck if you saw me around. However, I have multiple companies, network well, super polished when I want to be, and probably can have a variety of factors in which you may or may not be able to compete (money, success, etc). This isn't a diss or anything, but most Indian-Americans are quite wealthy. I know my social circle is all Hotel owners, Doctors, Dentists, Pharmacists, Investment Bankers, etc. as far as my Indian friends go. I think I bring a lot to the table in terms of game, even if I come off as beta. And, there's probably 10 of me spitting at a hot Indian girl at any given time. If she's 8+, then thats 100+ guys probably. Also, most Indian guys are greedy so they all just hit on the super hot ones, even if they're ugly. You'll have to beat some of those beta's in terms of time put in sometimes. And some of the Alpha's in terms of what you bring to the table. As you know, it's all situation but just wanted to give you my perspective.

Digression:

Indians are a wealthy and very successful minority in terms of their educational and career achievements, but they're still seen as low SMV in the Western dating market for a variety of reasons. All the things you mentioned are great for when some chic is looking to settle down, but on their own they don't make you a panty-wetter, sorry. Seen too many successful Indian brothers just like that in places like LA and NYC who struggled mightily to land a date let alone play the field. And I'm NOT saying "there are no Indian players", just that on the whole there's a lot fewer of them than you'd find in other demographic groups.

This (low SMV in the West) in turn means it takes longer for the average Indian Joe to master game and rack up a sufficiently high enough notch count before he gets pressured by mommy and daddy to settle down It's a markedly different story outside the West though - Latin America/EE/FSU women will generally be more receptive. This appears to somewhat mirror the experience of our other Asian brothers (see the Asian Guy Travel Thread on here) and also that of Black Americans.

And while Indian women aren't at the top of the totem pole either, their SMV is still higher in relative terms to that of most Indian dudes - they know this and will therefore hold out for the best (however they define "best") they can get.

OP is almost certainly Indian himself.

[bgbusiness]

(10-31-2017 03:26 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

This (low SMV in the West) in turn means it takes longer for the average Indian Joe to master game and rack up a sufficiently high enough notch count before he gets pressured by mommy and daddy to settle down

Yes, agreed.

(10-31-2017 03:26 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

And while Indian women aren't at the top of the totem pole either, their SMV is still higher in relative terms to that of most Indian dudes - they know this and will therefore hold out for the best (however they define "best") they can get.

Yes, but at the same time I have seen Indian chicks who are 7s going for high-value white dudes and getting destroyed.

(10-31-2017 03:26 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

OP is almost certainly Indian himself.

No. I am 100% Korean.
I have wrote this in other threads.

[EndsExpect]

(10-31-2017 01:28 AM)True Balla Wrote:  

PS. I don't think most Indian guys are as beta as you may think. Im 5'8 and a regular Indian looking guy that you would probably just think is a beta buck if you saw me around. However, I have multiple companies, network well, super polished when I want to be, and probably can have a variety of factors in which you may or may not be able to compete (money, success, etc). This isn't a diss or anything, but most Indian-Americans are quite wealthy. I know my social circle is all Hotel owners, Doctors, Dentists, Pharmacists, Investment Bankers, etc. as far as my Indian friends go. I think I bring a lot to the table in terms of game, even if I come off as beta. And, there's probably 10 of me spitting at a hot Indian girl at any given time. If she's 8+, then thats 100+ guys probably. Also, most Indian guys are greedy so they all just hit on the super hot ones, even if they're ugly. You'll have to beat some of those beta's in terms of time put in sometimes. And some of the Alpha's in terms of what you bring to the table. As you know, it's all situation but just wanted to give you my perspective.

I live in an area with TONS of Indian people. The women are very clicky. Some are super... super hot! The ones 7 and above are pretty much for Indian guys only and only Indian guys. Also... they are insanely smart and rich compared to the average American girl.

Have had some luck over the years with Indian women over 30 in the 6 and 7 range. I think it really comes down to the fact that there are tons around.

Also... keep in mind that Indian women are just as willing to cheat as American girls. I learned this one time when we were at a bar and this Indian couple was there. My friend is black and felt like she was making eyes at him. So we went over and he ran some game on this woman while we chatted up her husband a bit. This guy didn't like my friend hitting on his wife but said nothing. Long story short... an hour later this guy is trying to figure out where his wife went, while she is fucking my friend in the backseat of his car in the parking lot.

So... Indians are pretty much just like everyone else. You just have to understand how the culture affects their actions a bit.

I really want to go after this Indian surgeon. I've taken her out to lunch and dinner before for work. I'm just not willing to put my cash flow in danger. This woman is physically an 8, but intellectually a 10.

[kaotic]

....why aren't you diversifying your pussy portfolio ?

[bgbusiness]

(10-31-2017 04:03 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

....why aren't you diversifying your pussy portfolio ?

....why are you assuming that I am putting all my eggs in one race?
So judgemental. I don't think you even read the thread, 2/3 of the girls were just normal daily interactions, I am not trying to invest into those girls.

I just wanted to focus on this one race/topic for now to anchor the conversation. Next thread is going to be about black chicks. Then Mexican/Latina chicks.

[thedarkknight]

Juice isn’t worth the squeeze

[bgbusiness]

(10-11-2017 05:11 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

Really interested to see you perform more in the future and they are super helpful.
I couldn't found any info on your stats.
What is your height and how would you rate yourself on aesthetics?
What is your age and race?

(10-11-2017 05:17 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I'll DM you.

Btw, you said you will DM me about your stats, never got it.
Which I am not curious about it anymore, so it doesn't matter, but just want to point out that your actions and words not matching up.

[True Balla]

(10-31-2017 03:26 PM)jselysianeagle Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 01:28 AM)True Balla Wrote:  

PS. I don't think most Indian guys are as beta as you may think. Im 5'8 and a regular Indian looking guy that you would probably just think is a beta buck if you saw me around. However, I have multiple companies, network well, super polished when I want to be, and probably can have a variety of factors in which you may or may not be able to compete (money, success, etc). This isn't a diss or anything, but most Indian-Americans are quite wealthy. I know my social circle is all Hotel owners, Doctors, Dentists, Pharmacists, Investment Bankers, etc. as far as my Indian friends go. I think I bring a lot to the table in terms of game, even if I come off as beta. And, there's probably 10 of me spitting at a hot Indian girl at any given time. If she's 8+, then thats 100+ guys probably. Also, most Indian guys are greedy so they all just hit on the super hot ones, even if they're ugly. You'll have to beat some of those beta's in terms of time put in sometimes. And some of the Alpha's in terms of what you bring to the table. As you know, it's all situation but just wanted to give you my perspective.

Digression:

Indians are a wealthy and very successful minority in terms of their educational and career achievements, but they're still seen as low SMV in the Western dating market for a variety of reasons. All the things you mentioned are great for when some chic is looking to settle down, but on their own they don't make you a panty-wetter, sorry. Seen too many successful Indian brothers just like that in places like LA and NYC who struggled mightily to land a date let alone play the field. And I'm NOT saying "there are no Indian players", just that on the whole there's a lot fewer of them than you'd find in other demographic groups.

This (low SMV in the West) in turn means it takes longer for the average Indian Joe to master game and rack up a sufficiently high enough notch count before he gets pressured by mommy and daddy to settle down It's a markedly different story outside the West though - Latin America/EE/FSU women will generally be more receptive. This appears to somewhat mirror the experience of our other Asian brothers (see the Asian Guy Travel Thread on here) and also that of Black Americans.

And while Indian women aren't at the top of the totem pole either, their SMV is still higher in relative terms to that of most Indian dudes - they know this and will therefore hold out for the best (however they define "best") they can get.

OP is almost certainly Indian himself.

Yes agreed, I have a much harder time getting Western girls (white mainly). In my opinion, It takes me a lot more effort and a lot more game than a white guy would need to bed the same girl. The successes usually come from women already exposed to Indian culture; Yoga, an Ex, Bollywood movies, or the food.

At the same time when I go back to chasing an Indian girl, it is far easier. Having to need the extra game to compete for other races makes me that much stronger in terms of what I can offer. Coming back to Indian girls who don't have the prejudice that I'm naturally a lower SMV, and actualy has the opposite effect just makes it that much better for me. For the other races, it works the other way there they just have to put in all that extra effort that us Indian guys have to put in for the white girls lol.

(10-31-2017 03:43 PM)EndsExpect Wrote:  

(10-31-2017 01:28 AM)True Balla Wrote:  

PS. I don't think most Indian guys are as beta as you may think. Im 5'8 and a regular Indian looking guy that you would probably just think is a beta buck if you saw me around. However, I have multiple companies, network well, super polished when I want to be, and probably can have a variety of factors in which you may or may not be able to compete (money, success, etc). This isn't a diss or anything, but most Indian-Americans are quite wealthy. I know my social circle is all Hotel owners, Doctors, Dentists, Pharmacists, Investment Bankers, etc. as far as my Indian friends go. I think I bring a lot to the table in terms of game, even if I come off as beta. And, there's probably 10 of me spitting at a hot Indian girl at any given time. If she's 8+, then thats 100+ guys probably. Also, most Indian guys are greedy so they all just hit on the super hot ones, even if they're ugly. You'll have to beat some of those beta's in terms of time put in sometimes. And some of the Alpha's in terms of what you bring to the table. As you know, it's all situation but just wanted to give you my perspective.

I live in an area with TONS of Indian people. The women are very clicky. Some are super... super hot! The ones 7 and above are pretty much for Indian guys only and only Indian guys. Also... they are insanely smart and rich compared to the average American girl.

Have had some luck over the years with Indian women over 30 in the 6 and 7 range. I think it really comes down to the fact that there are tons around.

Also... keep in mind that Indian women are just as willing to cheat as American girls. I learned this one time when we were at a bar and this Indian couple was there. My friend is black and felt like she was making eyes at him. So we went over and he ran some game on this woman while we chatted up her husband a bit. This guy didn't like my friend hitting on his wife but said nothing. Long story short... an hour later this guy is trying to figure out where his wife went, while she is fucking my friend in the backseat of his car in the parking lot.

So... Indians are pretty much just like everyone else. You just have to understand how the culture affects their actions a bit.

I really want to go after this Indian surgeon. I've taken her out to lunch and dinner before for work. I'm just not willing to put my cash flow in danger. This woman is physically an 8, but intellectually a 10.

Goodluck man! Indians in general are super clicky indeed. I wouldn't waste the bank trying either.

[kaotic]

I'm absolutely being judgemental, I'm judging your writing and experiences.

You aren't explaining what you're doing with other girls that aren't working on the Indian girls you're complaining about.

True Ball is absolutely right:

Girl 1 was pointless diatribe and you sounded cranky - or jaded and tired in your terms - that wasn't really a sexual/dating interaction.

Girl 2 took you 2 YEARS to pull her into a date - that's downright laughable - come on man - you deserve better and can do better. You aren't there to be her friend, fuck her or get out of bed. Also, "social currency invested" - you put this chick on a pedestal bro. The 2 years explains that. YOU CANNOT BE FRIEND WITH FEMALES.

Girl 3 was another non issue game - and of all things you added her on facebook, I've NEVER added a girl on social media, at most they can follow me on IG.

[kaotic]

(10-31-2017 04:15 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

(10-11-2017 05:11 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

Really interested to see you perform more in the future and they are super helpful.
I couldn't found any info on your stats.
What is your height and how would you rate yourself on aesthetics?
What is your age and race?

(10-11-2017 05:17 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I'll DM you.

Btw, you said you will DM me about your stats, never got it.
Which I am not curious about it anymore, so it doesn't matter, but just want to point out that your actions and words not matching up.

Stop with the passive aggressive, have some balls and call me out what you think isn't matching up on my actions versus words.

Let's not beat around the bush.

As for your request ? I probably forgot because I was banging Indian 8's brah instead of bitching about them online.

Oh my stats ?

I'm a 6'4 Master Race Chad Thundercock 8


Now if you're done with the foreplay and being passive aggressive let's have a real conversation and break down your game and your strategy when approaching women, Indian or otherwise.

[bgbusiness]

Lol.
I am good, no thanks.

[jselysianeagle]

(10-31-2017 03:33 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

I am 100% Korean.

Wtf dude... Korean women are some of the hottest women around, bar none. Why are you even wasting your time with Indian chics? I'd try to get into the local Korean scene if I were you and work that angle instead. You've have a much better ROI too.

[kaotic]

(10-31-2017 04:36 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

Lol.
I am good, no thanks.

Exactly because you aren't bringing anything constructive to the conversation.

If my actions don't match my words, I expect to be quoted and called on it, then corrected.

That's how things work, we're bringing constructive criticism in the push to help you over to the other side. It's not us giving you shit and attacking you, we're seeing things OBJECTIVELY.

There are some holes in your game that need to be shored up, this forum is here to help, but you have to be willing to listen, there tons of guys in your shoes that are moving forward.


I mean I even pointed out in another thread to you:

Quote:

(10-31-2017 03:39 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

(10-30-2017 09:43 PM)bgbusiness Wrote:  

I have realized and internalized some of new ideas.
1. Girls are really bad friends.
- Recently, I texted some female friends that I had in the past, as they are emotionally creatures and you don't bring immediate value to their life, they either did not respond or responded days later.
- I have heard that girls don't give a shit about how many years you been friends with, but I have finally internalized it after few instances where that came out to be true.

The only type of girl friend is a friend with benefits. The only exclusions may be child hood friends, your friends wives, and girlfriends.

Quote:

2. Girls will go on tinder/bumble dates with you just for validation and attention.
- These girls don't want to sleep with you. They know you can fuck them and dump them.
- They only want to tease you, get the free meal if possible or whatever and dip out.
- They will even text you that it won't work out. I have heard this from a girl who I wouldn't even cold-approached in real life. The only reason I went out with her is because she messaged me first and I thought it would be an easy lay.

This sounds like a game level issue on your part.

In the past 3 years, I've never been on a dinner date with a girl I haven't fucked yet, matter of fact, I rarely have gone to dinner with any of the chicks I've banged.

You can assume the sale, but it needs to be scalable.

I think the biggest thing I cant point in you experience is you didn't filter girls well enough and didn't grab her interest.

I've had hundreds of dates, most have been succesful to a point, rarely have I paid for booze/or apps and not gotten anything out of it.

Hell I've done sober cost free dates at parks or outside coffee shops.

[General Stalin]

So you had a poor casual interaction with a cashier (who you were not trying to game), got flaked on by another girl on a first date who you continued to fruitlessly pursue for two fucking years and had some akward interaction with a classmate (who you also were not trying to game)

Get back to us when you actually try running some game on these Indian girls, and actually have a decent pool of experiences worth drawing a conclusion on

[Cobra]

So the OP in his delusion is continuing his attempt at the opposite of game here:

thread-66403...pid1707012

[cosworth]

I have a thing for Indian girls at the moment. I find they generally have nice tight pussies. So extra points for that.