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Breaking into high end social circles
#26

Breaking into high end social circles

Easiest way for a "commoner" to break into the high end is go to an elite institution for undergrad / grad school. That means Ivy League + Stanford and a very few select schools. The elites highly value education, especially in Asia.
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Quote: (07-08-2017 09:51 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

Easiest way for a "commoner" to break into the high end is go to an elite institution for undergrad / grad school. That means Ivy League + Stanford and a very few select schools. The elites highly value education, especially in Asia.

Also going to prep school on New England
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#28

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Quote: (07-08-2017 09:51 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

Easiest way for a "commoner" to break into the high end is go to an elite institution for undergrad / grad school. That means Ivy League + Stanford and a very few select schools. The elites highly value education, especially in Asia.

The thread outline here is not to become their peer on every level. It was meant of how to become their party buddy - that can be done without the cash, pedigree or education.

Hell - I even know a girl (hot, smart and educated) who started out as a cleaning maid at yachts, then due to her work ethic and intelligence got ever bigger gigs at yachts and private plane administration for billionaires. She could have stayed doing that making 100k with little living costs, but last I heard - she got married to an upper class dude that she met on a yacht.

But that is the female way - also she did not have to fuck anyone doing it all.

I also know another guy who worked as a waiter/restaurant manager in one place where a billionaire was seen often. He once asked him whether he could talk to him about an idea. He quickly presented him with a business idea of a club/hotel on the beach in a posh little city in Northern Europe. The billionaire said yes and that bloke is a millionaire now as he gets a decent cut of the earnings.

There are a myriad ways on how to profit from the mere connections you have - as long as you have a smart head about you. There is no need to study with them - sometimes it is enough to be smart and impress someone with real money. This worked for the hot yet traditionally minded girl I talked about (she lost virginity only at 21) as well for the former waiter who is actually super-smart, but willing to work those jobs just to know extremely wealthy folk.

The same kind of connection could have been used by Distant Light in his hayday.
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#29

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No poster on the forum is more exhilarating to read than DL.

Whether you can duplicate his lifestyle or not, after reading him you feel anything is possible.

(I can't see any of those pictures though.)

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#30

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What do you Have that they would want from you?

When you are meeting someone new, you are constantly judging the heck out of him thinking 'what can I get out of this guy?'

They are doing the same thing.
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#31

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Quote: (07-10-2017 03:08 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  

What do you Have that they would want from you?

When you are meeting someone new, you are constantly judging the heck out of him thinking 'what can I get out of this guy?'

They are doing the same thing.

Yeah I completely agree with this. My original question wasn't how can I get access to these social circles without providing value, rather what value can I provide given that I'm not a pro athlete / actor etc.

From the replies it seems like charisma and high energy are the personal traits, and then knowing a bunch of people who do good work + being good at one particular thing (e.g. getting entry to top clubs, practicing some adrenaline sport like skydiving, being a great photographer etc. to stand out) are some ways to start.
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#32

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Quote: (07-07-2017 09:03 PM)Celestial Wrote:  

Quote: (07-07-2017 06:40 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

As stated by the other members, provide value.

You need to be able to recommend a cool winery or restaurant. Better yet, you should know some of the staff at these place to make sure that any recommendation you give, they'll be well taken care of.

What about providing a business service for them and doing a great job? Putting yourself out there with confidence and then delivering the goods always buys you graces with the wealthy folks. They've seen lots of posers. Don't be a try-hard, focus on bringing something to the table instead of being a mooch.

If you get a contact of someone with money, ask them great open-ended questions about some of the challenges they've been facing. One of the best ways I've found to network with people with money and access is by showing genuine interest in what is bothering them right now. Relieve that pressure point through your own services, or refer them to an expert in the field they need help with. Always keep a stocked contacts list in your phone of "go-to" people that you can recommend. If a wealthy person has a plumbing problem, I know the best damn plumber that lives between LA and SF. He'll get their mess cleaned up fast, and at a reasonable rate with a great sense of humor and a 1-year money back guarantee on his labor. That referral is BIG VALUE.

One of the best ways to embed yourself into a social circle is to force yourself to get to know people outside of your profession. Once you can observe that they do great work, if a wealthy person needs a great interior designer, I know of no less than two in my area that can transform their house. Their retainer starts at $20k, but damn, do they do impressive work. I plug the designers that deliver, not just some design hack that doesn't know what he's doing. Get to know competent people (and be one yourself) and you'll become an invaluable resource to high-end social circles.

This is something I've been thinking about a lot. Those with money really want to emphasise comfort and convenience, and knowing people who do good work can help them achieve that. Right now I know a solid, no bullshit accountant and a top construction worker who freelances with reasonable rates and no games. I think these are pretty useful contacts and it'd be a good idea to get more like them.

Wealthy people have the following challenges:

1. How to make more money.
2. How to not lose money. (Not the same as #1).
3. How to save more time. (They are willing to spend $$$ in exchange for things that save them time. Think private aviation, personal assistants, etc.)
4. How to have maximum convenience. They don't like things that are inefficient, are a hassle, etc. That's why upper-middle class people use TSA Pre-Check, and the wealthy use private jets. The more money you have, the less hassle you have to deal with.

If you think about all four things I just posted above, and focus your efforts on how to relieve those pressure points the wealthy face, you will make yourself a valuable asset to that social class. Too many rich folks have seen wannabee moochers come into their social circle just trying to "living the good life" without having anything to offer. Value, value, value! Provide value. Then provide some more. High-end social circles are a Long Game. Trying to be a huckster won't work, they've sniffed out far too many try hards. Provide value, be honest, don't be a gossip (wealthy people value privacy and trust) and BE PATIENT.

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Quote: (07-14-2017 11:50 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

Quote: (07-07-2017 09:03 PM)Celestial Wrote:  

Quote: (07-07-2017 06:40 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  

As stated by the other members, provide value.

You need to be able to recommend a cool winery or restaurant. Better yet, you should know some of the staff at these place to make sure that any recommendation you give, they'll be well taken care of.

What about providing a business service for them and doing a great job? Putting yourself out there with confidence and then delivering the goods always buys you graces with the wealthy folks. They've seen lots of posers. Don't be a try-hard, focus on bringing something to the table instead of being a mooch.

If you get a contact of someone with money, ask them great open-ended questions about some of the challenges they've been facing. One of the best ways I've found to network with people with money and access is by showing genuine interest in what is bothering them right now. Relieve that pressure point through your own services, or refer them to an expert in the field they need help with. Always keep a stocked contacts list in your phone of "go-to" people that you can recommend. If a wealthy person has a plumbing problem, I know the best damn plumber that lives between LA and SF. He'll get their mess cleaned up fast, and at a reasonable rate with a great sense of humor and a 1-year money back guarantee on his labor. That referral is BIG VALUE.

One of the best ways to embed yourself into a social circle is to force yourself to get to know people outside of your profession. Once you can observe that they do great work, if a wealthy person needs a great interior designer, I know of no less than two in my area that can transform their house. Their retainer starts at $20k, but damn, do they do impressive work. I plug the designers that deliver, not just some design hack that doesn't know what he's doing. Get to know competent people (and be one yourself) and you'll become an invaluable resource to high-end social circles.

This is something I've been thinking about a lot. Those with money really want to emphasise comfort and convenience, and knowing people who do good work can help them achieve that. Right now I know a solid, no bullshit accountant and a top construction worker who freelances with reasonable rates and no games. I think these are pretty useful contacts and it'd be a good idea to get more like them.

Wealthy people have the following challenges:

1. How to make more money.
2. How to not lose money. (Not the same as #1).
3. How to save more time. (They are willing to spend $$$ in exchange for things that save them time. Think private aviation, personal assistants, etc.)
4. How to have maximum convenience. They don't like things that are inefficient, are a hassle, etc. That's why upper-middle class people use TSA Pre-Check, and the wealthy use private jets. The more money you have, the less hassle you have to deal with.

If you think about all four things I just posted above, and focus your efforts on how to relieve those pressure points the wealthy face, you will make yourself a valuable asset to that social class. Too many rich folks have seen wannabee moochers come into their social circle just trying to "living the good life" without having anything to offer. Value, value, value! Provide value. Then provide some more. High-end social circles are a Long Game. Trying to be a huckster won't work, they've sniffed out far too many try hards. Provide value, be honest, don't be a gossip (wealthy people value privacy and trust) and BE PATIENT.

Adding what JMK said, Wealthy People want to do Business with People Like Them.
People who they admire. This is no easy task. You gotta be THE BEST value wise. Or why do they want hang with you?
They sure as hell can afford the best.

Wealthy people are not the Ballers and Players you see on TV.
Don't be intimidated by the private jets. These are just vehicles to secure their family. Who can blame them with the faulty engines and passenger abuse lately?
Every wealthy I meet are Major Family Men who only care about what is best for their family. So, the hardest yet most effective part of becoming valuable to them is getting to be known as a family member.

How do you do that? Stop talking to Losers. Concentrate your network. 6 Degrees of Separation is Real. Let them come to you. This is not a overnight thing. This can take years to gain their full trust. Being published or known by others as a Trusted source is essential.
Because Wealthy people rarely bet on the New and Unproven thing.
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Excellent points by crdr. Wealthy folks at heart are conservative, or at least the dads are. Sometimes they'll have some wild child children if they are helicopter parents, but a surprising number of rich kids actually are somewhat grounded. Trust is key as mentioned above. Being a great listener helps show that you are a thinker, not just all-talk-no-action.

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@DL

Great to have your posts back. I actually made some friends within the last year that live the way you write about it, I believed it never saw guys like that in action all day every day out.

They live for fun, and live off their personal presence. If it was 10AM on a Tuesday in the hallway before going out to a cafe it feels like being a in club with their exuberance for life.

It really rubbed off on me and made me see what is possible.

Only downside I learned from them that I think are inescapable coke, guys with $ that aren't very cool, and great looking women that have meager personalities and senses of humor.

They are the ultimate salesmen that sell their presence to everyone and anyone and they enjoy it. Keeping their vibe going and staying high is their first concern when out always.

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Another side note. Dun Dun Dun! You need money!!
You cannot be taking your clients to fucking McDonalds to chat big league contracts or demonstrate high value products and services or even shoot the shit.
Especially New Millionaires who want to spend every dime they have. Including YOURS!

Nor, do you want to go bankrupt paying for dinners and *strippers*

When you have money and business acumen going for you. It's a steep but less steeper climb than being a broke joke marketing and networking to Millionaires.
Because if Wealthy people make Millionaires feel broke, how the hell are you gonna feel when they start pressing on you?

But, as in life, there are no hard fast rules. Ambition, more ambition than them can cover up the money thing. But this is just a Personal Finance tip so you yourself don't blow out your bank account for some deal that ultimately falls through...
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This is an interesting topic and can warrant a whole new thread all by it self. I'm my experience, this is where you'll meet your 9's and 10's. The ability to build or get into social circles is pretty crucial in this regard, so knowing the basics is something worth investing in.

First and foremost, whether it be breaking into a social circle or building your own social circle the underlying principal is this: How can I offer value?. Value, in this context could mean adding good vibes, providing advice on topics that interest themselves, money, status, pre-selection, etc.

We also need to realise that a 9 or 10 has value by default, without doing anything. And whether you like it or not, this is how the world is treating them so being the kind of guy that adds value to peoples lives is mandatory. While I am not advocating needy behaviour or reciprocating to them (9s-10's & high status dudes), if you are already a value giving guy in general without wanting anything in return, then the people who reciprocate that will be worth it.

Once you have these things in mind, collect details of all people you think is cool and start organising events, this isn't limited to women either (Credit RSDLuke and AFC Adam). Keep attempting to organise events, even if they suck, the people who see the effort will invite you to all their cool shit and now you're part of that click. You'll also find people willing to help you out in terms of free entry and discounts/free on tables.

You should also research the cultural differences if you're in a different country, and learning the language of that country will make life a whole lot smoother. After you get access to these circles, basic game + logistics will suffice.

Some recommended books on people building and giving value:

- How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie
- Influence: Science and Practice by Robert Cialdini
- The Education of Millionaires by Michael Ellsberg
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Quote: (07-14-2017 04:48 PM)crdr Wrote:  

Another side note. Dun Dun Dun! You need money!!
You cannot be taking your clients to fucking McDonalds to chat big league contracts or demonstrate high value products and services or even shoot the shit.
Especially New Millionaires who want to spend every dime they have. Including YOURS!

Nor, do you want to go bankrupt paying for dinners and *strippers*

When you have money and business acumen going for you. It's a steep but less steeper climb than being a broke joke marketing and networking to Millionaires.
Because if Wealthy people make Millionaires feel broke, how the hell are you gonna feel when they start pressing on you?

But, as in life, there are no hard fast rules. Ambition, more ambition than them can cover up the money thing. But this is just a Personal Finance tip so you yourself don't blow out your bank account for some deal that ultimately falls through...

I don't think you need a whole lot of money if you have something else to offer. Looking at how Distant Light lives, it's pretty clear that if you have the right vibe and living to the fullest you can sell your presence and cover up the face that you're not a millionaire. Ultimately money is just one of the bargaining chips I think, you can make up for it with something else of value, but yeah, if you're a cashier at McDonalds, out of shape and living with mom, totally get that money could be a life changer from that situation.
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Quote: (07-14-2017 07:59 PM)Celestial Wrote:  

Quote: (07-14-2017 04:48 PM)crdr Wrote:  

Another side note. Dun Dun Dun! You need money!!
You cannot be taking your clients to fucking McDonalds to chat big league contracts or demonstrate high value products and services or even shoot the shit.
Especially New Millionaires who want to spend every dime they have. Including YOURS!

Nor, do you want to go bankrupt paying for dinners and *strippers*

When you have money and business acumen going for you. It's a steep but less steeper climb than being a broke joke marketing and networking to Millionaires.
Because if Wealthy people make Millionaires feel broke, how the hell are you gonna feel when they start pressing on you?

But, as in life, there are no hard fast rules. Ambition, more ambition than them can cover up the money thing. But this is just a Personal Finance tip so you yourself don't blow out your bank account for some deal that ultimately falls through...

I don't think you need a whole lot of money if you have something else to offer. Looking at how Distant Light lives, it's pretty clear that if you have the right vibe and living to the fullest you can sell your presence and cover up the face that you're not a millionaire. Ultimately money is just one of the bargaining chips I think, you can make up for it with something else of value, but yeah, if you're a cashier at McDonalds, out of shape and living with mom, totally get that money could be a life changer from that situation.


Haha.
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Just hang out where rich people hang out and look the part.
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#41

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- Be great positive energy
- Have drugs
- Bankroll dinners (provide access to dinners)
- Have other girls
- Have high standards in guy friends (poor quality guys reflect poorly on you)
- Logistics (be close to the action) or always be available to hang out
- Lock down the city

5 out of the 7 will have you doing good. Each additional one you add will rocket you up.

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You don't make money hanging around with money.

You don't build a successful business hanging around people with successful businesses.

Their money is not your money unless you're an (accredited) investor with something to offer. If you're at a Polo match don't start talking business, talk about polo.

It is true if you hang out with shit that you begin to smell like it - but it is NOT true that if you hang out with money you'll begin to make it.

If you want to break into high society networks invest your hard earned dollars into attending events they attend (polo matches, equestrian events, car shows, yacht shows, ect... but do not make it a point as to why you're there. Better to just say the event sucks if you know nothing about it and you're entertaining a friends request to attend. You'd be surprised how hard a person will try to convince you that it's not boring. Best negotiation position is to have someone with deep pockets trying to convince you they do not partake in boring interest. Bonus points if you make them feel like they need to prove it to you.

Make friends with the attendees via capturing a open spot where people can rest their legs after an hour of bullshitting and don't even think to talk about doing business together ever.

Talk about whatever interest you and if one of them bites at one of your interest let them speak. If not just ignore them and don't pretend to care about anything their saying.

Say exactly who you are whether it be a tow truck driver or investment banker and treat everyone as if you don't give a shit who they are or what they do. Be relaxed, funny, real and uncaring of how someone might feel about you no matter who they are.

As soon as you let off a scent that you're uncomfortable and networking. Anyone that is worth getting to know will smell it a mile away and depending on how predatory they are will either use your insecurities against you and play nice to milk some resources, labor or whatever else you have to offer out of you or ignore you entirely and have nothing to do with you which are usually the ones you want to get to know. The ones that ignore people are usually the ones with the most to offer in a networking sense. They are not ignoring to be dicks they are quiet because they have had more ass kissing in one day than most people receive in a lifetime. Aunt Gena has already asked them 20 times how are they liking the food and events so don't be Aunt Gena.

Hang around the quiet people at these events and keep your trap shut yourself. You'll be surprised how many of the useful ones will look around and find another human not at the event to bullshit. If you appear not to give a shit like the other successful ones i.e. keeping your business cards in your pocket you might find yourself invited to some after hours or after event things.
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Quote: (07-14-2017 11:59 PM)FFL Wrote:  

You don't make money hanging around with money.

You don't build a successful business hanging around people with successful businesses.

Their money is not your money unless you're an (accredited) investor with something to offer.

It is true if you hang out with shit that you begin to smell like it - but it is NOT true that if you hang out with money you'll begin to make it.

If you want to break into high society networks invest your hard earned dollars into attending events they attend (polo matches, equestrian events, car shows, yacht shows, ect... but do not make it a point as to why you're there. Better to just say the event sucks and you're entertaining a friends request to attend because most of them are very boring.

Make friends with the attendees via capturing a open spot where people can rest their legs after an hour of bullshitting and don't even think to talk about doing business together ever.

Talk about whatever interest you and if one of them bites at one of your interest let them speak. If not just ignore them and don't pretend to care about anything their saying.

Say exactly who you are whether it be a tow truck driver or investment banker and treat everyone as if you don't give a shit who they are or what they do. Be relaxed, funny, real and uncaring of how someone might feel about you no matter who they are.

As soon as you let off a scent that you're uncomfortable and networking. Anyone that is worth getting to know will smell it a mile away and depending on how predatory they are will either use your insecurities against you and play nice to milk some resources, labor or whatever else you have to offer out of you or ignore you entirely and have nothing to do with you which are usually the ones you want to get to know. The ones that ignore people are usually the ones the most to offer in a networking sense. They are not ignoring to be dicks they are quiet because they have had enough ass kissing in one day for most people lifetimes.

Hang around the quiet people at these events and keep your trap shut yourself. You'll be surprised how many of the useful ones will look around and find another human not at the event to bullshit. If you appear not to give a shit like the other successful ones i.e. keeping your business cards in your pocket you might find yourself invited to some after hours or after event things.

Reading this, I don't know why I went to University, I don't know why I bother to make money. I don't know why anyone bothers to make money. You just need to squat around yachting events and hang around the quiet people and you're in their entourage....

This is some Silver Bullet Bullshit! Haha.
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#44

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Quote: (07-15-2017 12:12 AM)crdr Wrote:  

Quote: (07-14-2017 11:59 PM)FFL Wrote:  

You don't make money hanging around with money.

You don't build a successful business hanging around people with successful businesses.

Their money is not your money unless you're an (accredited) investor with something to offer.

It is true if you hang out with shit that you begin to smell like it - but it is NOT true that if you hang out with money you'll begin to make it.

If you want to break into high society networks invest your hard earned dollars into attending events they attend (polo matches, equestrian events, car shows, yacht shows, ect... but do not make it a point as to why you're there. Better to just say the event sucks and you're entertaining a friends request to attend because most of them are very boring.

Make friends with the attendees via capturing a open spot where people can rest their legs after an hour of bullshitting and don't even think to talk about doing business together ever.

Talk about whatever interest you and if one of them bites at one of your interest let them speak. If not just ignore them and don't pretend to care about anything their saying.

Say exactly who you are whether it be a tow truck driver or investment banker and treat everyone as if you don't give a shit who they are or what they do. Be relaxed, funny, real and uncaring of how someone might feel about you no matter who they are.

As soon as you let off a scent that you're uncomfortable and networking. Anyone that is worth getting to know will smell it a mile away and depending on how predatory they are will either use your insecurities against you and play nice to milk some resources, labor or whatever else you have to offer out of you or ignore you entirely and have nothing to do with you which are usually the ones you want to get to know. The ones that ignore people are usually the ones the most to offer in a networking sense. They are not ignoring to be dicks they are quiet because they have had enough ass kissing in one day for most people lifetimes.

Hang around the quiet people at these events and keep your trap shut yourself. You'll be surprised how many of the useful ones will look around and find another human not at the event to bullshit. If you appear not to give a shit like the other successful ones i.e. keeping your business cards in your pocket you might find yourself invited to some after hours or after event things.

Reading this, I don't know why I went to University, I don't know why I bother to make money. I don't know why anyone bothers to make money. You just need to squat around yachting events and hang around the quiet people and you're in their entourage....

This is some Silver Bullet Bullshit! Haha.

I actually said the opposite of what you're insinuating and I said nothing about University nor squatting at events geared to the wealthier classes.

You should focus on making your own money first and socially acclimating into high net worth circles which is a add on to being able to afford to attend events high net worth people attend.

What I was also saying is people want to hang out with like personalities. Not ass kissing leeches.

It'll show pretty quickly if you're attempting to make a friendship based on them only benefiting you, your ego and your dick. And I can promise you it'll not last as long as you might imagine it would.

Good on you getting an education and focusing on building wealth for yourself. That's what real men do.
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#45

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It is truly key to know how to be with some Hero of X and kick it and NOT talk about X.

Pretty similar to girls.
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#46

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Quote: (07-14-2017 10:17 PM)DVY Wrote:  

- Be great positive energy
- Have drugs
- Bankroll dinners (provide access to dinners)
- Have other girls
- Have high standards in guy friends (poor quality guys reflect poorly on you)
- Logistics (be close to the action) or always be available to hang out
- Lock down the city

5 out of the 7 will have you doing good. Each additional one you add will rocket you up.

The poor quality guys is definitely something I've experienced. While I'm far from an international playboy or high energy Distant Light, I'm trying to be more like that, and noticed beta, passive-aggressive guys are the worst to hang with, and just drag down energy and vibe completely. Had a lot of friends like that (still do) that prefer to sit at home, watch porn and swipe on tinder while refreshing instagram 10000 times, trying to move away from that.
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Quote: (07-07-2017 12:49 AM)Cattle Rustler Wrote:  

I'll second what jselysianeagle wrote "You have to have something of value to offer.". What do you have to offer that will want high society folks to have you around? You want them, they don't want you for now.

That.

I haven't pushed in that direction much yet (work will take me there eventually), but I've generally seen that people who do so are people who are great in the community.

The examples I've seen to do that are personal trainers (specifically, the fitness manager at a country club), top tier bakers/decorators/photographers (the ones who have a "best in town" reputation), and so on.

What I have noticed is that the easiest way to break into those circles is to provide a service that the rich consume (to include drugs). Another way that I've seen people edge their way in is through aggressive exploitation of the nonprofit sector. Nonprofits are often valuable to the wealthy as networking and reputation building events, so if you are able to connect them that way it's a huge asset.


Another common way that I've seen people do this is if you work in investment management, by which I mean NOT strip mall shops like Edward Jones, but in a place that will call its services "private banking" or "private wealth management".
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#48

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Great thread, good info, hilarious stories from DL.

I wonder how many times the word 'yacht' will be used here

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#49

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Love this thread. A repeat of what other people have said, but what works for me is being where rich and important people spend their leisure time.
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#50

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@celestial I wasn't "like this" starting off it's who I grew into and the change in perspectives due to past experiences. This is why I have grown relatively slow in past 2.5 years compared to 2011-2013 where every 6 months it felt like I evolved into a drastically better person.

It isn't obvious until you look back and think "wow" because the growth is like looking back at your 5 year old self when you're now 15.

Something people fail to NOT realize and is probably why people don't grow much...

Social Circles, Friends & Family are bias and a threat to falling into dogmatic belief traps...

A stranger is meeting you for the 1st time or brief past encounters. So what they SEE is what they GET. There is no BIAS.

So when you connect with a stranger guy or girl and it tripwires as a connect/friend or spirals into a sexually crazed experience with a woman, it's an objectice consequence of WHO YOU ARE and WHERE YOU ARE AT.

There is no greater currency than YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS

Most people grow insanely slow because they live in social boxes and riddled with bias. Gravitating towards stability, comfort, security & fantasy.

Why I love socializing & cold approach is because you meet all walks of life INFORMALLY as strangers.(which are just friends you haven't given a chance to meet you yet)

A stranger has nothing to lose by harshly saying "FUCK OFF you scheming cunt, trying to act nice to eat my pussy".

However, when they are randomly thinking you or pointing out great aspects of you on a consistent basis it's confirming

You reek of xyz aspects, it's so obvious who you are and what you're abou thatt a person can feel it in just 5mins of knowing you.

It's from there where were ripe, open & vulnerable to grow. This is one aspect as to why I hate monogamy. I have not grown in an incredible rate or unexpected manner as I haven't been dealing with other consciousness on that level. (The times I've been broken off with gf, I've rekindled with that and had refreshing experiences despite knowing at best it woulda last 2-3 encounters more)

If I had good memory I could align different girls who played key roles in my growth. Only one I vividly can recall is march 2012 the chick who caused me to never chase women ever again.

Now what I didn't realize...As a stranger she CRIED stating she cared about me and worried about me. This was similar to experiences I've had with my GF. Actually gaining 1st hand experience in a relationship I've come to realize many girls have projected similar intentions I was just so unaware back then and/or ignored it. (Had I been aware, I'd have never even got in current relationship)

If you rewind farther back I was far from this guy and had little to no understanding of my inner workings far less socially & sexually.

Past 2.5 years I've lived an incognito shadow of myself as the authenticity of how I am isn't in alignment with the roles I currently play

@tr1cky Yep, I've played with both energetic dancing and none at all. What I NEVER talk about is when I projected what I called "homo-erotic mating dance" this almost always resulted in me fooling around with chicks.

Prior to high end scene I had to cut that out because it would mean I could never genuinely just have fun dancing by myself.

So enter high end scene...I'd eventually tone down bugging out and save it for big djs, warehouse parties & music events.

Enter monogamy...I don't even want chicks coming up to me as anything can cause potential drama in my relationship...So high end scene is me utilizing my variation of "2 step" haha. Most of my bugouts happen outside my apt listening to music.

I essentially hide that aspect of myself & when it comes to dancing & messing with girls I stopped that before even getting in high end scene.

Irony this is why I stopped talking alot too...Living in such a manner interacting with strangers your experiences are broad. People LOVED STORIES to the point where every night out I had stories and I kept repeating then to female friends who loved hearing the randomness of my life.

For instance...I noticed on facebook "on this day" back in 2012, apparently 2 gang members who intended to rob me while I was drunk from a warehouse party. Ended up chatting with me, joking around and running up on unmarked cabs. (I had completely forgot about this)

Most people just liked my mind, I interpret the world in a humorous manner (despite not being externally comedic) I like playing with perception & interpretation of what I'm processing...

This leads to me laughing alot and open to having fun as I'm pretty lawless. A chick could go from sniffing coke to sucking cock then wanting to do shots & all I'll care about is "if you have no guilt and had a blast then let the goodtimes roll". I don't see stats or accolades as anything. Born hot...who cares. Sellout concerts...who cares.

All that matters is if they're open for fun and can handle how I am. Most strangers have shown that I make people comfy & enable them to just BE happy & free with having fun. Dancing is just a bonus "plot twist" as I think it's rare to have a stimulant junkie who can't help but dance.

Most people in high end scene never seen that side. This stemmed from my 1st warehouse party where I helped/instigated atleast 30 people all bugging out to the music. Easy to see the concept "were all one" in that sense but I see it 24/7. (Sadly live in contradictory of that concept for the time being)

As for other comments...
- @PutinCloses comment...Goodluck spending all your life efforts going to prep schools and elite colleges just to ATTEMPT to be wothin high end social circles...Talk about priorities. Especially when that's not guaranteed & limited to a social box

- @Zelcorpion...Yep so many offers and opportunities missed whether I was aware or not. However, I did it all for personal growth. (and adventure) In some sense I'm like a crash dummy who craves continual reinvention. There is only 1 true fuckup I've ever done and that was due to alcohol abuse and plans for villas & models in south of france + ibiza. That would've been epic BUT also woulda been locked in as the NY gatekeeper for that crew as I was the only one who lived here. Nowadays, I have friends in those realms but I'm unbounded. I rather stay unbounded as my mind always craves different realms like a sponge.

- @debeguiled haha...I genuinely think it's due to the residual "most people have NO IDEA" the growth, freedom and possibilities that were unlocked. 2012 theme was literally "Yo I had so much fun I could die...I'm 100% ok, I had more fun in a year than an average lifetime. I'm glowing and stress-free."...What most hear in terms of experiences is just side effects. No year has been able to touch 2012. Prague 2016 was only aspect that had potential although roles/obligations kept sexual aspect surpressed. Out in a foreign city with my presence and personal power. It's the closest thing to playing god without cheating physics. I was in a state of surrealism the whole time.

- @Celestial
1. Self-Discover Yourself (Most guys are eager to gain rapport with a woman yet haven't even begun to gain rapport with themselves)

2. Explore How You Enjoy Being & Living

3. Shamelessly Project (You will indirectly provides potential lessons to all those who interact with you)

4. Disssolve Fears/ego...Move towards unconditional loving intentions

5. "Let The Wind Blow" - Give up control and forcing things. If you are BEING proper then the probable experiences will naturally manifest. There is a joke between clients who start having sexual breakthroughs where I say gameplan is...SHOW UP...Because due to how I've become its guaranteed shit is gonna get wild. (New joke past few years have been AVOID, who woulda thought I'd purposely have to do my best for people not to like me #Retarded)

- @JohnMichaelKane...Can cut through the noise "what do wealthy guys want?" Girls!!! Show me a man who says otherwise and he's either an outlier, low sex drive or riddled with belieftraps. Such realms guys just wanna be THE MAN aka "win the illusion". So you are fun to be around AWESOME!!! But wait, you happen to know shit ton of girls...You my friend will be given the world. Everything else is minor as you provide a good/fun environment personably & you bring them in proximity of girls. Presence overrides Girls as you'll notice the people value you as a person than the girls. Many guys I met was living like this 3, 5, 10, 15 years. I had stepped in this world in less than a year yet connected with many...Like other dude stated I missed tons of opportunities but realistically I wasn't built to take advantage of it.

- @FFL idea is something I DO NOT RECOMMEND. Before I monologue, yes make your own money and don't go into this thinking how to make money agenda. Heck, strip money out of the equation.

Entertainment & Hospitality industry is a relationship based realm. It TRUMPS MONEY...If you have your own money & you pay...The you my friend...

Are a "client" on an excell sheet and will be offered & upselled to spend MORE MONEY.

Money Is A Logistical Tool...Live in a city, option to live in the heart, make your apt female friendly & socially interactive (one of my clienrs had a miami penthouse with stripper pole...3 model apartments in his luxury building, he was 20 at the time so the chicks used to chill at his place. Ended up getting a russian gf and went to both Ukraine & Russia)

Now...Some pua type tried to get an IN at one NY venue. Spent $1k a few times. Then showed up wanting to get in. "That'll be $1k"

Flipside non-community friend of mine I met in nightlife...who used to daygame meeting models.
- Club tables FREE
- Non-Promoter Dinners FREE
- Summer House Hamptons FREE
- Cannes Film Festival Mr DiCaprio will be out there...well he's gonna want to be around GALS *snap* leo in tabloids BUT wait who is that guy right next to him. Why are 2 NYers a famous man & a BTS nightlife dude together? Their salaries aren't anywhere near each other. (At most my friend makes 120k+ or had enough to rent a $6k a month loft...thanks to being the man who knew women)

You don't geneeally go from spending money to FREE unless you are an investor. This is a relationship based realm. The cost of BUYING YOUR WAY is the fast track to going broke.

Search a malaysian fund being investigated for the alleged loss of 4 billion...All I'll say is I've hung with people. Spending 100k in a month on nightlife...Yea iight!!! Go make your money and comeback only to have to make more money to support all the other areas in life. (Even worst most guys do that shit in hopes to get laid)

This realm and anything luxurious is RICH CONSUMER fantasies. You are playing the game/fantasy by BUYING. You are supporting the illusion by being apart of it and it's a reflection of all the FREEBIES you get.

As a girl this is much easier, be hot, meet a staff member, get invited and introduced to clients...network network network. (However, along the way someone is gonna fuck as women have urges too. I wouldn't call it fucking her way to the top, just alot are willing to tap and used power to try and entice)

Plain and simple, 6 stunning girls can go to a club and say "setup a table for me and my girls" if there is space BINGO, if not...Meet x-insider he'll take care of you.

For a guy different story...You got power? Show it by spending!!! That dinner your eating dropping $900 before the $2k table...The 2 hobo looking guys with 10 girls sharing plates who will be sitting right next to you. $0. He has girls to interact with off the bat...Your $3.5k in and starting with 0 girls...

Hope you didn't do this strictly to fuck chicks because $1k-$2k coulda smashed 1-2 of your fav pornstars, no hangover.

Make as much money as you please BUT spend it in realms worthy of spending it. Yea, could be fun to treat a friend to a table at a club if he rarely goes out or in some meh city and want to support their nightlife economy. But on a weekly basis just to be apart of a scene naaaaaaa stop being lazy.

Takes more effort to make money than to break into the high end scene.

P.S...@NomadOfEU I wouldn't have survived, I'm a legit junkie to thrills, sensations & partly disinhibition . (And I don't neccesssarily mean in the irresponsible wild and fucked up sense either) In prague, I was drunk, high and sniffed white elephant snus from the only indian guy at a local bar where after 10pm we weren't allowed to make noise outside because it was all residential. No phone service, no one had a clue where I was, no idea how I was going to make it back to airbnb. One of the few times, I was so fucked up I just sat there listening to everyone chat hahaha. The orginal guy rolling things up and I were so messed up we just stopped speaking enjoying the moment together. Then next day aimlessly walking sat in a park, some office workers needed a lighter for weed...ITS WEED. High & lost in the city dancing for 4-5 hours having one of the best days of my life. I'm missing out on the accumulation of memorable experiences. In these senses I'm not normal by any means. Stability, predictability, comforts, security, etc is ultra boring.
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