[Spike]

Hey guys,
I don´t wanna spam my site, just want your opinions on the business cards i had printed recently. For me the cards are a great way to get feedback from people i meet on my views on my trip and my life. Also i dont wanna facebook every guy who wants to keep in touch.

Please rate from 1 - 10 ( 1 being the worst card you´ve ever seen) and give me opinions on the style.

http://www.aroundtheworldin80girls.com/2...girls-com/

[Kona]

(08-29-2011 06:10 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

Hey guys,
I don´t wanna spam my site, just want your opinions on the business cards i had printed recently. For me the cards are a great way to get feedback from people i meet on my views on my trip and my life. Also i dont wanna facebook every guy who wants to keep in touch.

Please rate from 1 - 10 ( 1 being the worst card you´ve ever seen) and give me opinions on the style.

http://www.aroundtheworldin80girls.com/2...girls-com/

You paid too much for them. I thought you got 1000 of them for maybe 5 dollars???

The girl with her tongue sticking out looks like she has down's syndrome.

I give your cards a 2. D-Lux needs to get back to work.

This video should help:

Aloha!

[Spike]

(08-29-2011 06:35 AM)Kona Wrote:  

(08-29-2011 06:10 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

Hey guys,
I don´t wanna spam my site, just want your opinions on the business cards i had printed recently. For me the cards are a great way to get feedback from people i meet on my views on my trip and my life. Also i dont wanna facebook every guy who wants to keep in touch.

Please rate from 1 - 10 ( 1 being the worst card you´ve ever seen) and give me opinions on the style.

http://www.aroundtheworldin80girls.com/2...girls-com/

You paid too much for them. I thought you got 1000 of them for maybe 5 dollars???

The girl with her tongue sticking out looks like she has down's syndrome.

I give your cards a 2. D-Lux needs to get back to work.

This video should help:

Aloha!

Ok, a bit harsh but honest. That "down sydrome" chick : She may put on a funny face but she´s a smoking hot 19 year old Vietnamese chick you gave me a hell of a bang.

And printing a 1000 business cards for 5 dollar ??? Please tell me adress of your printshop.

[OSL]

Haha aw come on man, she's really cute.

I'm not sure how much business cards go for in the US, or whereever you are getting them, but in general it's better to invest more money in higher quality cards.

Neil, is that pic with you and a ton of chicks in Vietnam? Those girls are pretty damn cute. All of the Vietnamese chicks I know in New York are busted, but that's probably because they're engineers or finance chicks. I hear they're hotter in Cali.

I think the card is a little bit busy. It's already got a lot going on with the font. In my humble opinion, I think you should only feature the girl who is walking on the beach with her ass in our direction. Take both other chicks out of the picture. Also, move her to the right side so that the font and picture don't overlap.

Just my opinion. If you could get a mockup/sample of that it would be cool.

You can probably get someone to photoshop that for you on http://www.fiverr.com in a couple of hours time, for five bucks.

[Vicious]

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with this business card. Just drive traffic to your blog? Shouldn't you have some accomplice at home doing that for you with these cards in that case? I just can't figure out how you are going to market these, to random guys in bars on the road?

It's the guys back home in the cubicles that you want to reach out to.

[UgSlayer]

I would go for something a bit more elegant and simpler. That card looks like my 12 year old nephew made it on photoshop. That is the kind of clientelle you're going to attract. Make it sexy, but not like a vegas street hooker ad you might see caught on a bush outside on the strip.

[Spike]

(08-29-2011 08:11 AM)youngmobileglobal Wrote:  

Haha aw come on man, she's really cute.

Neil, is that pic with you and a ton of chicks in Vietnam? Those girls are pretty damn cute. All of the Vietnamese chicks I know in New York are busted, but that's probably because they're engineers or finance chicks. I hear they're hotter in Cali.

Can you be more percise about which picture you are talking about ? i have quite a lot of pictures like that ?

I think the card is a little bit busy. It's already got a lot going on with the font. In my humble opinion, I think you should only feature the girl who is walking on the beach with her ass in our direction. Take both other chicks out of the picture. Also, move her to the right side so that the font and picture don't overlap.

I tought about have only the chick in the middle ( which is/was my Russian girlfriend who followed me around all over asia.

Just my opinion. If you could get a mockup/sample of that it would be cool.

You can probably get someone to photoshop that for you on http://www.fiverr.com in a couple of hours time, for five bucks.

It says in the article that i have a designer

(08-29-2011 11:34 AM)UgSlayer Wrote:  

I would go for something a bit more elegant and simpler. That card looks like my 12 year old nephew made it on photoshop. That is the kind of clientelle you're going to attract. Make it sexy, but not like a vegas street hooker ad you might see caught on a bush outside on the strip.

just to make sure we´re talking about the right design she the picture below, this is the final design and printed version. The card is pretty clear and photoquality

http://www.aroundtheworldin80girls.com/2...bizcard-1/

[Spike]

(08-29-2011 08:38 AM)Vicious Wrote:  

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve with this business card. Just drive traffic to your blog? Shouldn't you have some accomplice at home doing that for you with these cards in that case? I just can't figure out how you are going to market these, to random guys in bars on the road?

It's the guys back home in the cubicles that you want to reach out to.

I hand them out because i want feedback on my lifestyle and to get people talking about it. Esspecially whem i piss people of with it than i´m sure they will tell their friends at birthday parties.
This will drive some traffic to my blog. I have no accomplice back home.

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I just can't figure out how you are going to market these, to random guys in bars on the road?

Well, as you know. Guys always talk about girls, so at one point or another my site will come up. Just a few days ago i really pissed someone off. I´m sure he will tell all his buddies.

[Lumiere]

Who are you planning to give your cards to exactly?

Do you tell girls that you have a blog about banging and travelling and give them a card?

[worldwidetraveler]

Hey Neil,

I think you are wasting your money with the cards. If you want traffic, then you should start posting a lot more. Blogging is a lot of work and you need to be consistent with it. I just looked at your blog and it has very little quantity of posts. You will get traffic from posting more and more topics. It just looks like you haven't really put anything into your blog.

You also want readers to come back several times a week and can only be done with consistent posting.

Blogging is a lot of work.

[Spike]

(08-29-2011 02:50 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  

Who are you planning to give your cards to exactly?

Sometimes i leave a stack in hostels or bars. I also hand them out to foreigners i meet. No use handing them out to locals. I can follow my trafficon my site so i can see if it works. if not, well than i lost 30 dollars. No big deal.

Do you tell girls that you have a blog about banging and travelling and give them a card?

A few girls i banged know about the site, both indonesian and no contact with them anymore. One is getting married and broke contact a long time and the other one tried to sue me. 3 braxzil girls on my facebook know about it by accident so i can forget to hook up with them but i´m sure they put in a good word for me whe i visit them ( brasilia)

[Spike]

(08-29-2011 02:52 PM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  

Hey Neil,

I think you are wasting your money with the cards. If you want traffic, then you should start posting a lot more. Blogging is a lot of work and you need to be consistent with it. I just looked at your blog and it has very little quantity of posts. You will get traffic from posting more and more topics. It just looks like you haven't really put anything into your blog.

You also want readers to come back several times a week and can only be done with consistent posting.

Blogging is a lot of work.

You don´t have to lecture me on blogging . i know its a shitload of work. I started the blog from scrath with NO knowledge of building websites at all. i think i did a pretty good job so far. I´m very far behind with the travel stories because i´m already 2 travelin 2 years and 5 months and only blogging for 5 months. I have to catch up with 2 years of travel stories. The best ( south East Asia ) is yet to come.

I´m trying to post twice a week but don´t have the time for it now. i have to choose between traveling on a insane schedule and banging girls OR sit behind a screen and type up stories.

Once i´m home i will promote the shit out of the site since i´m not planning on getting a job. I´ll have a glassfiber conection and 2 large screen to work with. Now i have a 10 inch laptop and a shitty connection at bet.

[worldwidetraveler]

(08-29-2011 03:07 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

You don´t have to lecture me on blogging . i know its a shitload of work. I started the blog from scrath with NO knowledge of building websites at all. i think i did a pretty good job so far. I´m very far behind with the travel stories because i´m already 2 travelin 2 years and 5 months and only blogging for 5 months. I have to catch up with 2 years of travel stories. The best ( south East Asia ) is yet to come.

I´m trying to post twice a week but don´t have the time for it now. i have to choose between traveling on a insane schedule and banging girls OR sit behind a screen and type up stories.

Once i´m home i will promote the shit out of the site since i´m not planning on getting a job. I´ll have a glassfiber conection and 2 large screen to work with. Now i have a 10 inch laptop and a shitty connection at bet.

Too bad you don't have more time to post right now. It takes time to build a following and I am sure you will be pretty broke once you get back home (based on what you said in other posts).

You might want to write up your posts in Word so all you have to do is copy and paste it.

[Smitty]

(08-29-2011 03:07 PM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

You don´t have to lecture me on blogging . i know its a shitload of work. I started the blog from scrath with NO knowledge of building websites at all. i think i did a pretty good job so far. I´m very far behind with the travel stories because i´m already 2 travelin 2 years and 5 months and only blogging for 5 months. I have to catch up with 2 years of travel stories. The best ( south East Asia ) is yet to come.

I´m trying to post twice a week but don´t have the time for it now. i have to choose between traveling on a insane schedule and banging girls OR sit behind a screen and type up stories.

Once i´m home i will promote the shit out of the site since i´m not planning on getting a job. I´ll have a glassfiber conection and 2 large screen to work with. Now i have a 10 inch laptop and a shitty connection at bet.

Neil, a business card is not a bad idea if it just has your contact info on it, including your blog address. I would skip the pictures that you currently have. It's actually obnoxious and reminds me of those porn cards the mexicans hand out on the corners of Las Vegas.

If you want to drive traffic to your site, pissing off people is not the way to do it. That's the Tucker Max approach circa 2004 and it gets old quick...real quick. I would highly recommend you focus more on quality blog content.
No offense but the message I quoted from you above sounds like a bunch of excuses. If you want to maximize blog traffic, then my opinion is you give people a good reason to go to your site. People want to 1) learn, 2) be entertained and 3) live vicariously through others who are out there what they secretly want to do but cannot escape the cubicle to actually do. Make your site useful full of real-time travel tips. I would love your site if it was full of your own custom data sheets on all the places you've been. No excuses about no time or 10-inch screen - that's all bullshit. You take flights, you have down time, you take trains, etc. Use that time to write and contribute to the community. If you produce quality content, your site will flourish. Conversely, if you just post pictures of you with women, it will attract some attention from guys who want an idea of what the women in a particular location really look like, but you'll get little to no return hits from them because you offer nothing else.

No offense at all, just my honest opinion to help a brother out.

[Jarocho2003]

I thought the cards were to get women to call you, but for driving in traffic, you would do well writting more and learning a little SEO while you can. It helps to know what tittle, tags, and words to use. Once you have plenty of content, submit your site to the search engines...

[UgSlayer]

Yes I was thinking of that same design. Another poster here mentioned that it looked like the hooker ads in Vegas, so I would take that criticism seriously.

Neil, for you next batch, I highly recommend going with something very simple. Your website url is provacative enough that all you need is your pseudonymn, url, and a sexy little catch phrase along with a simple logo. Maybe a silhouette of a woman and a globe. Maybe a short one or two sentence mission statement on the back also.

No need for the color photos of the women and the beach.

Around the World in 80 girls is quite a clever url. You don't need much else to pique someone's interest. Especially a horny male traveler.

Hope this helps and good luck!

[Spike]

I don´t take offense in any of your guys comments. Thats why i posted the thread , to get the feedback.

@worldwidetraveler

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Too bad you don't have more time to post right now. It takes time to build a following and I am sure you will be pretty broke once you get back home (based on what you said in other posts).

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You might want to write up your posts in Word so all you have to do is copy and paste it.

Yep, i do write them up in word and copy paste, i have also a dutch travelblog which is up to date, i have to write up those stories first (before i forget details) i translate those posts to english and write the extra stuff i dont want my family to read on the 80girls blog.

I will be broke as fuck when returning home and will have to live with family and friends for a while. in this time i will work like a dog on my site and other projects.

@smitty

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Neil, a business card is not a bad idea if it just has your contact info on it, including your blog address. I would skip the pictures that you currently have. It's actually obnoxious and reminds me of those porn cards the mexicans hand out on the corners of Las Vegas.

In hindside i might be to flashy now. I gues i will use only the picture of the russian girl next time and to the far right.

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no offense but the message I quoted from you above sounds like a bunch of excuses. If you want to maximize blog traffic, then my opinion is you give people a good reason to go to your site. People want to 1) learn, 2) be entertained and 3) live vicariously through others who are out there what they secretly want to do but cannot escape the cubicle to actually do. Make your site useful full of real-time travel tips. I would love your site if it was full of your own custom data sheets on all the places you've been.

On the datasheets : i know i could easily write a 150 datasheets if i kept track of names and streets i visted in all my cities. i didnt because i just blog for 5 months and already traveling for 2 years and 5 months. It would also be like cloning Naughty nomad. The difference between our sites is that he for 90% mostly provides datasheets and raw info and my site describe everything that happend to me when traveling. The good and the bad and the ugly . I dont lie on my site, if i dont get laid for a while or have issues. i will write about it.

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No excuses about no time or 10-inch screen - that's all bullshit. You take flights, you have down time, you take trains, etc. Use that time to write and contribute to the community. If you produce quality content, your site will flourish. Conversely, if you just post pictures of you with women, it will attract some attention from guys who want an idea of what the women in a particular location really look like, but you'll get little to no return hits from them because you offer nothing else.

I now only take busses and travel in on insane schedule. i mostly take night busses so there no dayliight to write shit up. Batery life of my laptop is only a few houtrs so never take it on board. The daylight time i have i usually need for learning spanish on the bus.

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No offense at all, just my honest opinion to help a brother out.

None taken, i need the feedback.

@Jarocho2003

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I thought the cards were to get women to call you, but for driving in traffic, you would do well writting more and learning a little SEO while you can. It helps to know what tittle, tags, and words to use. Once you have plenty of content, submit your site to the search engines...

I did all that seo stuff, i spend countless hours learning about it. Now i just use an all in one seo tool in wordpress. Works really well.

@Ugslayer

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Yes I was thinking of that same design. Another poster here mentioned that it looked like the hooker ads in Vegas, so I would take that criticism seriously.

i do take it serious, i also have doubts because i realize now that when i leave a stack of cards anywhere ( bars /hostels) the staff will probably throw them away because there to provocative.

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Neil, for you next batch, I highly recommend going with something very simple. Your website url is provacative enough that all you need is your pseudonymn, url, and a sexy little catch phrase along with a simple logo. Maybe a silhouette of a woman and a globe. Maybe a short one or two sentence mission statement on the back also.

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Around the World in 80 girls is quite a clever url. You don't need much else to pique someone's interest. Especially a horny male traveler.

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Hope this helps and good luck!

Good feedback, although printing on both sides will increase the price a lot i guess. Yep, the title is well chosen. i like it a lot. it always get a lot of laughs and curiousity.

I might experiment with a few new designs in the near future. but i still have a shitload of cards i won´t throw away now.
Greetz Neil

[Lumiere]

Why did she try to sue you?

[Spike]

(08-30-2011 04:51 AM)Lumiere Wrote:  

Why did she try to sue you?

She found out about my site and totally freaked out over her pictures even though her fae was seriousy blurred out. Her body is still in the pictures though. its the ones with the underwear saying ; will work for shoes.

We had a major email battle and she is a total drama queen complainng how she has to protect her business. I said i wont remove them bcause your face is not visible. She already written down some names of other girls on my facebook before i blocked her. and threatend to tell those girls too. after this i removed the pics. i dont want thing spreading all over mu facebook.
Im still writing the story about her though but without personal details.

[oldnemesis]

(08-29-2011 06:10 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

I don´t wanna spam my site, just want your opinions on the business cards i had printed recently. For me the cards are a great way to get feedback from people i meet on my views on my trip and my life. Also i dont wanna facebook every guy who wants to keep in touch.

Honestly if I got a card like that, I'd think you're running a brothel or strip club. And your latest design has too much text.

BTW, did you get a signed model release form from this chick? She can sue your ass if she finds out.

[oldnemesis]

(08-30-2011 10:06 AM)Neil Skywalker Wrote:  

We had a major email battle and she is a total drama queen complainng how she has to protect her business. I said i wont remove them bcause your face is not visible.

This is a VERY bad idea. Not only you're taking some legal risk, but it also tells her that you think she's the hottest chick you ever had, and you will never get anything better.

[Gmac]

I don't think he has anything to worry about. Where is this chick from?

[oldnemesis]

(08-31-2011 11:26 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

I don't think he has anything to worry about. Where is this chick from?

It doesn't matter. She can met a beta lawyer dude in a bar, and complain to him.
Don't gamble with legal shit unless you absolutely have to, or unless you know what you're doing. It may sting you in a face in the least pleasant moment.

[Spike]

(08-31-2011 07:17 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(08-31-2011 11:26 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

I don't think he has anything to worry about. Where is this chick from?

It doesn't matter. She can met a beta lawyer dude in a bar, and complain to him.
Don't gamble with legal shit unless you absolutely have to, or unless you know what you're doing. It may sting you in a face in the least pleasant moment.

She's from Bali/indonesia and has her own office/business. I wasn't worried about her threats about taking my site down. I think i got my privacy covered online. Back in Holland im registered as a homeless person. It was the only way to get out of mandatory health insurance. I basically dissapeared of the radar for taxes,government, all companies.
When she threatened to tell my other facebook friends i got a bit scared of a domino effect.

[Smitty]

In the states she could force you (through the law) to remove her photo due to the nature of its use (i.e. your site is all about banging women). She could sue for defamation of character, libel, slander, you name it...what you write about her is merely your word against hers...but I don't believe you're from the states so it's a moot point.

If I were you, I'd be more concerned about her retaliation. With photoshop and a little time on her hands, she could really fuck you up. She could pay a few talented graphics students looking for a quick buck to put your face on the nastiest amateur gay porn and plaster the photos all over the Internet -- linking back to your site. With time and anger, there are no limits...

So my question is: Why not just get rid of the photo if she doesn't approve of you posting it? I know we think very little of the female gender around here, but you shouldn't interfere with someone's reputation and need to make a living. Let her go and move on from it.