[Lawrence of A Labia]

Like any normal overthinker I too indulge in the practice of questioning everything that happens to me, around me or with me. I try to find answers by myself but because I lack experience I seek answers from you.

So the first one is:
1) Why do I still catch oneitis?
- I've started approaching girls in broad day light or evening depending on when I feel like a lucky punk. But I'm still under construction.
- I'm in college, and there's a hot girl in my class like any other class. I've tried gauging her interest but I'm unsure mostly because I'm unsure about my own smv level.
- I've spent a day with her before outside the class but we had company half the time.
- on another fine day I decided to sit next to her for all lectures in class. Just to tell myself she ain't sht, I decided I won't initiate convo, not even hi. She tried a few times. 'hey we've same pen' 'i made this cover for the assignment' 'where r u lost?' and so on. I also know now that she's not single.
- By the end of the day I concluded, im still awkward around girls.

Things you should know:
- I was thinking of pussi and money when deciding a username.
- my country is sexually repressed.

Thank you for paying attention.

[torridon747]

1. Because you aren't gaming and fucking other girls. Don't chase em, replace em.

If I'm all hung up on a certain girl the quickest cure for me is to fuck 3 more or have a mini ltr with one good one. Try it.

[Lawrence of A Labia]

I'm out there fishing, waiting patiently to hook a fish. But it's taking more time than I thought it would.
   
In the mean time I go to class.
- Mini LTR seems like a good solution. I'll try it. It'll take me some time ofcourse.

Things you should know:
- I haven't kissed a girl yet. So I can't pass on any opportunity. I would even say I'm on the verge of desperation for all I know.

[blck]

Kissing ? Why ? Duct tape prevent this shit



Things you should know:

[Lawrence of A Labia]

That's funny, I guess I said something wrong.

[Jean Valjean]

(04-22-2017 06:27 PM)Lawrence of A Labia Wrote:  

- on another fine day I decided to sit next to her for all lectures in class. Just to tell myself she ain't sht, I decided I won't initiate convo, not even hi. She tried a few times. 'hey we've same pen' 'i made this cover for the assignment' 'where r u lost?' and so on. I also know now that she's not single.

Oneitis comes from having limited information about a girl, and filling in the gaps with an idealized fantasy. Girls will purposefully put their best foot forward and hide their bad qualities (at least till they get you locked down). But it's rare that any one girl will excel in all ways (looks, culinary skills, being good in bed, etc.), and as you experience being with more girls, you have more bases for comparison, and you learn the signs that a girl isn't as great as she seems. Disappointment produces a tendency to err on the side of skepticism.

You could always exchange numbers with her and see if she makes the first move by inviting you to her place to study with her. It would at least raise your prospects of success above zero. If she arranges a situation where you're in her bedroom alone together, go ahead and try to escalate. If something goes wrong, then you can come back here and report what happened and get further advice. Who knows, though, maybe you'll get your first kiss, and your first lay, and she'll dump her boyfriend for you. (Then you'll have a whole different set of problems to focus on!)

How did you find out she wasn't single? Did she mention it in conversation?

By the way, what you are you looking for -- just to get laid, or an LTR?

Quote:

- my country is sexually repressed.

Does that impact your logistics?

[Lawrence of A Labia]

- Someone asked her and she said 'no. I'm not single'
- Yes it impacts my logistics big time.
- I'm looking to get both laid and an LTR for the experience.

Studying together is a great idea thanks. I didn't think of it because I only study the day before an exam.
But I don't think she'll be inviting me over because she lives with her brothers.
I'll have to find some other place to study with her.
I don't want to jinx the bf dumping.

[LeoneVolpe]

If you haven't even kissed a girl yet, that's going to be the first thing you want to get out of the way. Forget about banging at this point, you have to learn to crawl before you can walk, and walk before you run. Also, you need to be realistic -- you're not likely to snag top-shelf pussy your first time at bat. You're going to have to work your way up to that.

Focus on finding a mid-range girl you can gain experience with. Then, once you've done that for a while, you can start working on pursuing more attractive girls. Girls play all the same games but at different difficulty levels. Essentially, the uglier she is, the less games she can afford to play, so a girl that's wolf ugly is like playing a game on easy, a mid-range girl will provide a moderate level of difficulty, and an upper echelon chick is playing the game on "expert." There are exceptions to every rule, but this is a good rule of thumb.

Again I say, don't make things more difficult on yourself than they have to be. Start on an easier mode and work your way up.

[Lawrence of A Labia]

That is again great advice. I'll report back in a week or less.
What do mid range girls look like? I guess I'll have to ignore face and focus on body.

[Jean Valjean]

(04-23-2017 11:39 AM)Lawrence of A Labia Wrote:  

- Someone asked her and she said 'no. I'm not single'
- Yes it impacts my logistics big time.
- I'm looking to get both laid and an LTR for the experience.

Studying together is a great idea thanks. I didn't think of it because I only study the day before an exam.
But I don't think she'll be inviting me over because she lives with her brothers.
I'll have to find some other place to study with her.
I don't want to jinx the bf dumping.

Was this a guy she was trying to fend off using the boyfriend objection? I wouldn't necessarily let it deter you.

I just mention studying together because sometimes girls will use that as a pretext for inviting a guy to her house. If she happens to bring you over there at a time when her brothers and other cockblocks are absent, it's probably on.

If there's a 9 who's giving you IOIs, I think even as a kissless virgin there's no reason not to go for it, if you like her. If she's into you, it can be possible to escalate to sex on the first date, even if both you and the girl have little or no experience. I've done it before. Logistics are key, though.

When you're with her and she seems to be inviting you to escalate, go ahead and do it without hesitating before the opportunity passes.

(04-23-2017 11:54 AM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

Focus on finding a mid-range girl you can gain experience with. Then, once you've done that for a while, you can start working on pursuing more attractive girls. Girls play all the same games but at different difficulty levels. Essentially, the uglier she is, the less games she can afford to play, so a girl that's wolf ugly is like playing a game on easy, a mid-range girl will provide a moderate level of difficulty, and an upper echelon chick is playing the game on "expert." There are exceptions to every rule, but this is a good rule of thumb.

There are plenty of less attractive girls who are arrogant cunts, though, and there are some more attractive girls who have fewer guys competing for them because guys are intimidated by them.

Bonecrker wrote about the perils of approaching fat/ugly chicks. So did Zenpriest. I guess mid-range would theoretically be the sweet spot, but there are a lot of guys with the same idea, so maybe there's more competition.

[Lawrence of A Labia]

I'm pretty sure she has that bf.
If I get a chance to escalate I'll escalate. Otherwise I'll just let it be. Not put in too much effort. Her IOIs are not that strong.

In the mean time, I'm going for mid range girls. It just seems more realistic and more hopeful. I won't get too much attached and it'll be easier to go through a number of them until I succeed. Even if there's competition it's still a better option. I can already picture 2-3 possibilities. I often ignored them, but guess they're in luck now.

I'm not going for fat/ugly chicks.

[Jean Valjean]

(04-23-2017 02:03 PM)Lawrence of A Labia Wrote:  

I often ignored them, but guess they're in luck now.

There you go. Nice "you are the prize" mentality. Hopefully they have good taste.

Creative username, by the way.

[PapayaTapper]

LoaL

I thought for sure you'd come back as Harami 2

[torridon747]

I thought his posting style reminded me of someone

[LeoneVolpe]

(04-23-2017 01:06 PM)Jean Valjean Wrote:  

(04-23-2017 11:39 AM)Lawrence of A Labia Wrote:  

- Someone asked her and she said 'no. I'm not single'
- Yes it impacts my logistics big time.
- I'm looking to get both laid and an LTR for the experience.

Studying together is a great idea thanks. I didn't think of it because I only study the day before an exam.
But I don't think she'll be inviting me over because she lives with her brothers.
I'll have to find some other place to study with her.
I don't want to jinx the bf dumping.

Was this a guy she was trying to fend off using the boyfriend objection? I wouldn't necessarily let it deter you.

I just mention studying together because sometimes girls will use that as a pretext for inviting a guy to her house. If she happens to bring you over there at a time when her brothers and other cockblocks are absent, it's probably on.

If there's a 9 who's giving you IOIs, I think even as a kissless virgin there's no reason not to go for it, if you like her. If she's into you, it can be possible to escalate to sex on the first date, even if both you and the girl have little or no experience. I've done it before. Logistics are key, though.

When you're with her and she seems to be inviting you to escalate, go ahead and do it without hesitating before the opportunity passes.

(04-23-2017 11:54 AM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  

Focus on finding a mid-range girl you can gain experience with. Then, once you've done that for a while, you can start working on pursuing more attractive girls. Girls play all the same games but at different difficulty levels. Essentially, the uglier she is, the less games she can afford to play, so a girl that's wolf ugly is like playing a game on easy, a mid-range girl will provide a moderate level of difficulty, and an upper echelon chick is playing the game on "expert." There are exceptions to every rule, but this is a good rule of thumb.

There are plenty of less attractive girls who are arrogant cunts, though, and there are some more attractive girls who have fewer guys competing for them because guys are intimidated by them.

Bonecrker wrote about the perils of approaching fat/ugly chicks. So did Zenpriest. I guess mid-range would theoretically be the sweet spot, but there are a lot of guys with the same idea, so maybe there's more competition.

I agree, but that's why I said "there are exceptions to every rule." Also, I'm not advocating OP hooks up with a complete she-beast, but a moderately attractive/mid-range girl is a good place to start. If he doesn't even know how to kiss, which is something he mentioned earlier, then even if there could be theoretically less competition for more attractive girls, at this point OP would only embarrass himself by not knowing what to do with them.

[LeeEnfield303]

Well, his nick is worth something, at least.


Thank you for paying attention.

[Lawrence of A Labia]

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[Lawrence of A Labia]

I.. didn't do any new approach,
- mid semester tests are going on
- self confidence is flexible.
- the girls I talked about; one is too friendly with everyone, other I saw once the whole week that too for a split second.. She walked past me, got in the bus, left, her face is actually nice.
- meanwhile wherever I pass that cute girl she notices me, waves at me, I nod and keep walking.
- I spent these 5 days watching and judging girls, this mid range thing is rap!ng my time. If I find them attractive, they're cute, if I don't find them attractive, they're ugly.
-Campus gaming is intimidating.
Silver lining?

[ksbms]

Labia man, it's really simple, either you fuck or you don't, pick which side of the fence you're on. Trust me, if you don't try, some other dude will fuck this sweet pussy and cum in this sweet lil mouth. Zero fucks given, my friend. Caveat: on campus go indirect, if all goes well, say she looks cute and ask​ her out for a proverbial​ coffee.

[Lawrence of A Labia]

Thanks ksbms

[Lawrence of A Labia]

Train of thought
[Going slightly off topic, but it is a Dilemma]

Music: vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion.

'One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain.'
Bob Marley

2) I appreciate good music and lyrics but it also has the power to make you feel something. That is not working in my favor.

Sad ones, resulting in doing nothing.

You do not want to listen to that before an approach, So you might think of these happy ones,

but even these result in doing nothing because they pump you up so much, as soon as you plug out to go and do that approach, you are already in a different zone.
Answer is simple don't listen to music before play but what about when you're at home or in the bus, then this music is conditioning you.
Sad music - you're supposed to be sad
Happy music - you're happy for 5 more minutes then neutral then sad again.

Maybe I'm thinking too much again.

[Bland]

Lawrence,

I think it's possible the cute girl in your class might be interested. Her wanting to start a conversation with you is a good sign.

It seems like you're trying to be aloof around her, but there's such a thing as being too aloof. If she is interested, but you never give her the time of day I think she would eventually give up.

Lawrence of A Labia Wrote:

I'm unsure mostly because I'm unsure about my own smv level.

The concept of SMV level is useful to consider when discussing cultural dynamics, and it's useful to do things to try to raise it like going to the gym, getting a good job, etc. However, I don't think it's ever useful to try to figure out what your SMV level is.

You should just assume that you're better than any woman that you're interested in. Just fake it, until you make it.

[Lawrence of A Labia]

Bland Wrote:

I think it's possible the cute girl in your class might be interested. Her wanting to start a conversation with you is a good sign.

Yeah on sunny days, I can feel the chemistry.

Bland Wrote:

It seems like you're trying to be aloof around her, but there's such a thing as being too aloof. If she is interested, but you never give her the time of day I think she would eventually give up.

See the problem is she gets alot of attention and to tackle that I only talk to her if I have talked to 2-3 girls already that day.
This happened yesterday. I was wearing uniform and nobody else in the campus was, so of course girls I talked to asked about it. My favorite was this girl who looks cute in makeup, when I saw her I took her hand, pulled her in that made her jump a little.
I told them all I didn't know what day it was.
Well, I saw her in the exam hall, she didn't make any eye contact maybe she's losing interest, I could care less, I had an exam to take.
My aloofness depends on my mood. If I'm feeling good, I socialise, otherwise I just let it be.