[thrive]

Around June 20, 2017, I will move to Belgrade for approximately 90 days. This is a certainty +/- 3 days because I am currently in a nearby country that I need to leave then.

I can't possibly slay every Serbian beauty in that little time, so I'm looking for a roommate/wing/buddy to tear up one of my favorite cities.

- About Me
- About Belgrade
- Costs
- About You
- Next Steps

About Me

I'm a 30 yo white American.

I read The Game when it came out. At the time, I was a virgin, and now I've banged about 150 chicks. I practice what I call omni-game, meaning that I will use day game, night game, Tinder, social circles, and any other way to bang hot chicks. I wouldn't call myself a disciple of any one style of game, but I probably run "Krauser" style day game and something between Mystery Method and RSD for night game. Obviously I picked up some stuff from Roosh too.

I've traveled nonstop for the last several years, been to about 80 countries in my life, and own my own business.

About Belgrade

I've spent a month in each of the last two summers in Belgrade. It is a fantastic city for game.

The metro area has 1.66 million, which I'd say is just big enough to give it the anonymity that quick sex with foreigners requires. I rarely saw the same people again there, while in a city of 800k where I am now, I see the same people frequently.

Many European cities empty out in the summer, but Serbians don't have a coast and are poor, so very few leave for the entire summer, meaning the game continues all summer.

During the summer, the nightclubs are on rafts (splavovi) on the river. Most suck because there is no bar or dance floor (everyone stands at their own table and orders from waiters), but a few have the common format in the rest of the world with a bar and a dance floor for meeting girls. At least one shitty-style night club is packed every night of the week. The good-style clubs are full Thurs-Fri-Sat-Sun.

During the day, beauties walk up and down the 1 km pedestrian strip of Knez Mihajlova street. It is potentially the best day game spot in the world. (Unfortunately it's not much of a secret, so one week two years ago I counted over 10 foreign daygamers completely burning the street. Thank god that was only one week.)

Tinder sucks in Belgrade. I think the girls are embarrassed to be seen there. You can burn through all the girls there in a day or two.

Serbian women are gorgeous. They aren't my absolute favorite in the world--I'd say Lithuanian--but they are up there. They put in the effort to stay thin and dress up, which mixed with natural beauty, can take you quite far. They are tall and short, busty and flat chested, but always dark haired.

The women speak good English overall. I do find that the better looking the girl, the worse her English is, and girls who are from other parts of Serbia and Republika Srpska don't speak English as well. However there is no shortage of great looking girls with great English.

(Speaking of language, I have been taking Serbian classes for about five months, averaging about 6 hours per week. I have reached a low level of conversational ability. I can usually express myself in a quiet one-on-one conversation. I can't understand TV, group conversations, etc. I am studying the language for fun. It is not necessary for gaming girls or living in Serbia.)

The women are much harder to bed than Western Europeans, North Americans, and South Americans. I got a few on the first date, but most took much more time--luckily we'll have 13 weeks. I didn't get any same night lays, although I never go for those anywhere (usually number farm at night.)

Based on my two months there and my numbers more generally, I'd put my over/under for new bangs at 7.5 in 90 days. I might also be able to rekindle a few from last year (like the one who is coming to visit me this weekend.)

Costs

I think we can get a 2BR apartment within a few hundred meters of the main square, fully furnished, for an all in price of 700 euros per month or so. That's 350 euros per person.

Everything in Serbia is dirt cheap. Beers are $2 at the bar and cheaper at the store. Food is $3-10 at a restaurant and cheaper at the store. A personal trainer is $10 an hour. A language teacher is $10 per hour. We'll rarely take taxis, but they cost very little.

I think $3,000 plus transportation costs to/from Belgrade is a reasonable estimate for the three months. You wouldn't live lavishly, but you wouldn't live badly either.

The Plan

Live in Belgrade for 90 days (the length of time most people can go without a visa) and pick up new girls and have dates every day. I don't want to do much travel outside of Belgrade. Maybe a weekend in Novi Sad or the Montengrin coast.

I'll spend a few hours a day at the gym and on Serbian class. I'll spend the rest of the day cooking, eating, walking and day gaming, dating, and going out at night.

I want a roommate/wing because it's always more fun to undertake big projects with a partner. We can celebrate the 10s we bag, commiserate on the girls who ghost us, and laugh at our best and worst approaches. We can give each other social proof, motivation, and advice.

About You

The main thing is that you have to be normal. Yeah it would be great if you were an expert at pick up, but it's much more important that you be a likable, easy-going person who can read social cues like a normal human being.

You also need to have $3,000 or a job you can do remotely, and a desire to game a lot. That's about it.

Next Steps

General questions about Belgrade, me, etc; leave them here. But if you're serious about wanting to do this with me, send me a PM, and we will set up a time to Skype and meet each other.

[Tenerife]

I'm currently in Belgrade. I assume this city must completely change when summer arrrives. Currently it's cold, rainy, grey and there is a dearth of attractive women on Knez Mihaijlova.

It's cheap as hell though and I find the overall city layout and vibe to be relaxing and enjoyable.

Across from the splavovi is a place called Beton Hala which is in the riverfront and hosts such clubs as tilt and gotik. Gotik was rocking on Friday and had more hot girls than I've seen in most clubs in the world. Difficult table set up for approaching though.

[Pornopung]

Just chiming in here as I've met thrive a few times in Bucharest and kept in touch since.

He's not much of a poster here but definitely one of the top guys I met through this forum - he really has his shit together when it comes to the location independent lifestyle. Fun high energy guy to be around with great game, he won't hesitate to approach and can keep any group entertained. He also has a lot of creative ideas for getting access to high quality girls.

Unfortunately I doubt I can spend the whole summer in Belgrade, but if I could I would have jumped on this offer. Good chance I'll come for a visit.

[thrive]

Last couple summers plenty of hot and sunny days with girls strolling alone and in pairs down Knez Mihajlova. Plus Serbia seems to have the most promo girls per capita for easy warm up approaches.

They also are all over the bazene (pools) and I assume out at Ada (river) beach though I have somehow never made it there.

[thrive]

(04-19-2017 11:08 AM)Pornopung Wrote:  

Just chiming in here as I've met thrive a few times in Bucharest and kept in touch since.

He's not much of a poster here but definitely one of the top guys I met through this forum - he really has his shit together when it comes to the location independent lifestyle. Fun high energy guy to be around with great game, he won't hesitate to approach and can keep any group entertained. He also has a lot of creative ideas for getting access to high quality girls.

Unfortunately I doubt I can spend the whole summer in Belgrade, but if I could I would have jumped on this offer. Good chance I'll come for a visit.

Now let the PMs flood in. A zero rep guy being vouched for by a 12 rep guy

I hope Pornopung does come to Belgrade.

His reference to "a lot of creative ideas for getting access to high quality girls" might have something to do with the Miss Universe [Eastern European Country] invitation I just finagled or the idea I have to throw a one-off club-like party in Belgrade.

[Pornopung]

(04-19-2017 11:15 AM)thrive Wrote:  

His reference to "a lot of creative ideas for getting access to high quality girls" might have something to do with the Miss Universe [Eastern European Country] invitation I just finagled or the idea I have to throw a one-off club-like party in Belgrade.

I'm just kissing ass to be your +1 for the Miss Universe contest.

[Tenerife]

Lots of low rep posters are really awesome guys, from my experience and I rarely ever care about rep points when meeting someone.

Belgrade has a high ratio of 8s, high English fluency, and extremely low prices. Combined with what the OP has already stated about people staying in the city for summer, it should be a great opportunity for people who want to hit EE without breaking the bank. It's also very easy and low cost to do the city on a short term basis. Long leases aren't required even by those on a tight budget.

[Demandred]

I'm a local and have my own place, so I'm not a good fit, but if you guys need help regarding girls or lifestyle in Serbia hit me up, I'll be glad to help you out.

[ascotpudding]

I've known Thrive for several years from when we both lived in South America.

All the other comments from people who know him are correct. He's a cool guy and I'm sure he'd be an easy and fun roommate to have.

For gaming, you can count on him to be a great wing man. He'll open sets, day or night, and does have some creative ways to game chicks.

And he's got good looks standards that he applies to the the whole groups of chicks, not just the one he is targeting.

So you won't be stuck jumping on grenades on sets he does open.

If you're thinking about giving Serbia a try, do it with Thrive, you guys will have a great summer.

Wish I weren't stuck working this summer, or I'd do it myself.

[Doce]

I can vouch for the OP as someone with a good organisational touch to his game. Witnessed him effortlessly keep the attention of hot chicks (groups) when I already got burnt out and scratched my head for what to say. I would jump at the opportunity if I could afford to spend time in Belgrade this summer

[spaceman]

I just wanted to post that I have been to belgrade twice in the past 3 years and have had SNLs almost every night I went out (fri/sat). All were at least 7s and it was easy to pick up girls there.
Just being a funny talking shit American makes it easy. I need to go back

[thrive]

(04-19-2017 04:25 PM)Doce Wrote:  

I can vouch for the OP as someone with a good organisational touch to his game. Witnessed him effortlessly keep the attention of hot chicks (groups) when I already got burnt out and scratched my head for what to say. I would jump at the opportunity if I could afford to spend time in Belgrade this summer

And I think that's everyone who knows me on the RooshV Forum. See guys, I'm cool AF so come live with me in ex-Yugoslavia.

[ElJefe1]

There's no place quite like Belgrade in the Summer, All you have to do is show up and you're banging more hotties than anyone can handle....

[BigL]

If you need help from local gamers, you can check this facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/188854582576/?fref=nf

[thrive]

(04-20-2017 04:18 AM)BigL Wrote:  

If you need help from local gamers, you can check this facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/188854582576/?fref=nf

As of two years ago, the founder of that group had negative game (actively repelling any quality girl.) That probably hasn't changed.

He's gotten some media attention as has PUA generally in Serbia. A few girls have brought it up to me. They're all creeped out by it obviously. Equally obviously, if you have game, girls don't know you're running game, so the girls never suspected I was part of the very community they were insulting.

[BigL]

You probably think about that guy that have his own "pua company". He is not a founder, he is admin. I dont like him either but there are good guys that actually helped me in that group.

[thrive]

Yes, I was referring to the admin

[PainPositive]

(04-19-2017 10:42 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  

I'm currently in Belgrade. I assume this city must completely change when summer arrrives. Currently it's cold, rainy, grey and there is a dearth of attractive women on Knez Mihaijlova.

It's cheap as hell though and I find the overall city layout and vibe to be relaxing and enjoyable.

Across from the splavovi is a place called Beton Hala which is in the riverfront and hosts such clubs as tilt and gotik. Gotik was rocking on Friday and had more hot girls than I've seen in most clubs in the world. Difficult table set up for approaching though.

OP's statement about Serbia being landlocked and people staying in Belgrade all summer is inaccurate. Almost all Serbs go on at least a week vacation during the summer but many go for a month.

They even have a saying for it in Serbian. Which roughly translates to "Go to the seaside". Greece and Montenegro are the most popular and the latter is very popular because the prices are extremely cheap and most Serbs can afford to go.

August is completely dead in Belgrade. Nightlife goes from some of the best to a ghost town. It's the worst.

I'll make a longer response later but one piece of advice is to avoid Knez Mihailova for daygame. Girls constantly talk about how all the foreigners are there constantly saying the same lines. "I just saw you from over there and had to come say hi" or other worn out phrases.

Well known PUAs come to Belgrade every summer with groups of guys as large 50 swinging dicks. It's a joke. Summer is the worst time to be in Belgrade. Spring and fall are much better.

I've been here 2014 and I see the same rotation of PUAs and other homos running around Splavs and spam approaching on Knez. It's a shit show.

[PainPositive]

(04-19-2017 06:04 PM)spaceman Wrote:  

I just wanted to post that I have been to belgrade twice in the past 3 years and have had SNLs almost every night I went out (fri/sat). All were at least 7s and it was easy to pick up girls there.
Just being a funny talking shit American makes it easy. I need to go back

What clubs were you hanging out at?

[thrive]

(04-20-2017 06:45 PM)PainPositive Wrote:  

(04-19-2017 10:42 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  

I'm currently in Belgrade. I assume this city must completely change when summer arrrives. Currently it's cold, rainy, grey and there is a dearth of attractive women on Knez Mihaijlova.

It's cheap as hell though and I find the overall city layout and vibe to be relaxing and enjoyable.

Across from the splavovi is a place called Beton Hala which is in the riverfront and hosts such clubs as tilt and gotik. Gotik was rocking on Friday and had more hot girls than I've seen in most clubs in the world. Difficult table set up for approaching though.

OP's statement about Serbia being landlocked and people staying in Belgrade all summer is inaccurate. Almost all Serbs go on at least a week vacation during the summer but many go for a month.

They even have a saying for it in Serbian. Which roughly translates to "Go to the seaside". Greece and Montenegro are the most popular and the latter is very popular because the prices are extremely cheap and most Serbs can afford to go.

True they go a week. I joke with them that rich girls go to Greece, middle class to Montenegro, and poor to Ada (river beach in Belgrade.)

But in many parts of Europe, people go for the whole summer. So Belgrade still has tons of people all summer in my experience.

(04-19-2017 10:42 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  

August is completely dead in Belgrade. Nightlife goes from some of the best to a ghost town. It's the worst.

Two years ago I was there the first half of August and did not have this experience. It seemed just like July to me.

(04-19-2017 10:42 AM)Tenerife Wrote:  

I'll make a longer response later but one piece of advice is to avoid Knez Mihailova for daygame. Girls constantly talk about how all the foreigners are there constantly saying the same lines. "I just saw you from over there and had to come say hi" or other worn out phrases.

Well known PUAs come to Belgrade every summer with groups of guys as large 50 swinging dicks. It's a joke. Summer is the worst time to be in Belgrade. Spring and fall are much better.

I've been here 2014 and I see the same rotation of PUAs and other homos running around Splavs and spam approaching on Knez. It's a shit show.

True-ish. I hope people read it and don't come to create more competition for me, but only true-ish. Of the 150 or so girls I approached during the day last summer, only 1 mentioned PUA. She said something like "I know what you're doing."

Definitely thousands of girls have been approached on Knez Mihajlova, and some girls multiple times, but if you vary the opener a little and they like your look/energy/charisma on the approach, you can still get a result. They won't group you in with those guys.

And no girls on the splavs said anything about PUAs except one who was talking about them as a group I wasn't a part of because a good night approach will just feel normal, so they won't associate you with anyone else's approach.

[spaceman]

I only went to belgrade in the winter/spring and it seemed as though I was the only foreigner around any of the night clubs and stuff.
it was great

[PainPositive]

(04-22-2017 05:23 AM)thrive Wrote:  

True-ish. I hope people read it and don't come to create more competition for me, but only true-ish. Of the 150 or so girls I approached during the day last summer, only 1 mentioned PUA. She said something like "I know what you're doing."

Definitely thousands of girls have been approached on Knez Mihajlova, and some girls multiple times, but if you vary the opener a little and they like your look/energy/charisma on the approach, you can still get a result. They won't group you in with those guys.

Yes, they will. If you are approaching on Knez you will be lumped in as a PUA or the type of tool who spam approaches dozens of girls a day on the same street.

They may not mention it because they are polite but they do talk about it amongst friends. Serb PUAs have been on talk shows here and articles in newspapers come out every summer showing screenshots of PUA bootcamp ads along with the dates of the event along with the names of people hosting it.

Multiple girls I've dated including my current girlfriend have told me about getting approached three times in 10 minutes walking down Knez during summer.

Spam approaching is a bad practice that should be avoided. It does no favors for yourself or other guys that will come after you. (Not to mention the people who live here full time and would like Belgrade to remain unspoiled.) Be a little more creative and you'll have more success without looking like a tool.

[thrive]

(04-27-2017 10:21 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 05:23 AM)thrive Wrote:  

True-ish. I hope people read it and don't come to create more competition for me, but only true-ish. Of the 150 or so girls I approached during the day last summer, only 1 mentioned PUA. She said something like "I know what you're doing."

Definitely thousands of girls have been approached on Knez Mihajlova, and some girls multiple times, but if you vary the opener a little and they like your look/energy/charisma on the approach, you can still get a result. They won't group you in with those guys.

Yes, they will. If you are approaching on Knez you will be lumped in as a PUA or the type of tool who spam approaches dozens of girls a day on the same street.

They may not mention it because they are polite but they do talk about it amongst friends. Serb PUAs have been on talk shows here and articles in newspapers come out every summer showing screenshots of PUA bootcamp ads along with the dates of the event along with the names of people hosting it.

Multiple girls I've dated including my current girlfriend have told me about getting approached three times in 10 minutes walking down Knez during summer.

Spam approaching is a bad practice that should be avoided. It does no favors for yourself or other guys that will come after you. (Not to mention the people who live here full time and would like Belgrade to remain unspoiled.) Be a little more creative and you'll have more success without looking like a tool.

"Spam approaching is a bad practice that should be avoided."

If you mean approaching many girls in a short period of time is bad, I couldn't disagree with you more. Gotta flip some rocks.

[WorldTravelerJB]

(04-19-2017 10:05 AM)thrive Wrote:  

Around June 20, 2017, I will move to Belgrade for approximately 90 days. This is a certainty +/- 3 days because I am currently in a nearby country that I need to leave then.

I can't possibly slay every Serbian beauty in that little time, so I'm looking for a roommate/wing/buddy to tear up one of my favorite cities.

- About Me
- About Belgrade
- Costs
- About You
- Next Steps

About Me

I'm a 30 yo white American.

I read The Game when it came out. At the time, I was a virgin, and now I've banged about 150 chicks. I practice what I call omni-game, meaning that I will use day game, night game, Tinder, social circles, and any other way to bang hot chicks. I wouldn't call myself a disciple of any one style of game, but I probably run "Krauser" style day game and something between Mystery Method and RSD for night game. Obviously I picked up some stuff from Roosh too.

I've traveled nonstop for the last several years, been to about 80 countries in my life, and own my own business.

About Belgrade

I've spent a month in each of the last two summers in Belgrade. It is a fantastic city for game.

The metro area has 1.66 million, which I'd say is just big enough to give it the anonymity that quick sex with foreigners requires. I rarely saw the same people again there, while in a city of 800k where I am now, I see the same people frequently.

Many European cities empty out in the summer, but Serbians don't have a coast and are poor, so very few leave for the entire summer, meaning the game continues all summer.

During the summer, the nightclubs are on rafts (splavovi) on the river. Most suck because there is no bar or dance floor (everyone stands at their own table and orders from waiters), but a few have the common format in the rest of the world with a bar and a dance floor for meeting girls. At least one shitty-style night club is packed every night of the week. The good-style clubs are full Thurs-Fri-Sat-Sun.

During the day, beauties walk up and down the 1 km pedestrian strip of Knez Mihajlova street. It is potentially the best day game spot in the world. (Unfortunately it's not much of a secret, so one week two years ago I counted over 10 foreign daygamers completely burning the street. Thank god that was only one week.)

Tinder sucks in Belgrade. I think the girls are embarrassed to be seen there. You can burn through all the girls there in a day or two.

Serbian women are gorgeous. They aren't my absolute favorite in the world--I'd say Lithuanian--but they are up there. They put in the effort to stay thin and dress up, which mixed with natural beauty, can take you quite far. They are tall and short, busty and flat chested, but always dark haired.

The women speak good English overall. I do find that the better looking the girl, the worse her English is, and girls who are from other parts of Serbia and Republika Srpska don't speak English as well. However there is no shortage of great looking girls with great English.

(Speaking of language, I have been taking Serbian classes for about five months, averaging about 6 hours per week. I have reached a low level of conversational ability. I can usually express myself in a quiet one-on-one conversation. I can't understand TV, group conversations, etc. I am studying the language for fun. It is not necessary for gaming girls or living in Serbia.)

The women are much harder to bed than Western Europeans, North Americans, and South Americans. I got a few on the first date, but most took much more time--luckily we'll have 13 weeks. I didn't get any same night lays, although I never go for those anywhere (usually number farm at night.)

Based on my two months there and my numbers more generally, I'd put my over/under for new bangs at 7.5 in 90 days. I might also be able to rekindle a few from last year (like the one who is coming to visit me this weekend.)

Costs

I think we can get a 2BR apartment within a few hundred meters of the main square, fully furnished, for an all in price of 700 euros per month or so. That's 350 euros per person.

Everything in Serbia is dirt cheap. Beers are $2 at the bar and cheaper at the store. Food is $3-10 at a restaurant and cheaper at the store. A personal trainer is $10 an hour. A language teacher is $10 per hour. We'll rarely take taxis, but they cost very little.

I think $3,000 plus transportation costs to/from Belgrade is a reasonable estimate for the three months. You wouldn't live lavishly, but you wouldn't live badly either.

The Plan

Live in Belgrade for 90 days (the length of time most people can go without a visa) and pick up new girls and have dates every day. I don't want to do much travel outside of Belgrade. Maybe a weekend in Novi Sad or the Montengrin coast.

I'll spend a few hours a day at the gym and on Serbian class. I'll spend the rest of the day cooking, eating, walking and day gaming, dating, and going out at night.

I want a roommate/wing because it's always more fun to undertake big projects with a partner. We can celebrate the 10s we bag, commiserate on the girls who ghost us, and laugh at our best and worst approaches. We can give each other social proof, motivation, and advice.

About You

The main thing is that you have to be normal. Yeah it would be great if you were an expert at pick up, but it's much more important that you be a likable, easy-going person who can read social cues like a normal human being.

You also need to have $3,000 or a job you can do remotely, and a desire to game a lot. That's about it.

Next Steps

General questions about Belgrade, me, etc; leave them here. But if you're serious about wanting to do this with me, send me a PM, and we will set up a time to Skype and meet each other.

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This sounds like a fabulous plan! I might be up for it, and definitely have the flexibility. Will try PMing you. Or PM me when you can.

[PainPositive]

(04-27-2017 11:57 AM)thrive Wrote:  

(04-27-2017 10:21 AM)PainPositive Wrote:  

(04-22-2017 05:23 AM)thrive Wrote:  

True-ish. I hope people read it and don't come to create more competition for me, but only true-ish. Of the 150 or so girls I approached during the day last summer, only 1 mentioned PUA. She said something like "I know what you're doing."

Definitely thousands of girls have been approached on Knez Mihajlova, and some girls multiple times, but if you vary the opener a little and they like your look/energy/charisma on the approach, you can still get a result. They won't group you in with those guys.

Yes, they will. If you are approaching on Knez you will be lumped in as a PUA or the type of tool who spam approaches dozens of girls a day on the same street.

They may not mention it because they are polite but they do talk about it amongst friends. Serb PUAs have been on talk shows here and articles in newspapers come out every summer showing screenshots of PUA bootcamp ads along with the dates of the event along with the names of people hosting it.

Multiple girls I've dated including my current girlfriend have told me about getting approached three times in 10 minutes walking down Knez during summer.

Spam approaching is a bad practice that should be avoided. It does no favors for yourself or other guys that will come after you. (Not to mention the people who live here full time and would like Belgrade to remain unspoiled.) Be a little more creative and you'll have more success without looking like a tool.

"Spam approaching is a bad practice that should be avoided."

If you mean approaching many girls in a short period of time is bad, I couldn't disagree with you more. Gotta flip some rocks.

I mean approaching as many girls as possible on the most played out street in a city day after day with the same openers wearing the same leather jacket as two dozen other dudes doing the same thing thinking girls are oblivious to it.

Flipping rocks that have been overturned three times in the last five minutes probably isn't going to give you the returns you could get if you hit areas that are less frequented by spam approachers.

There are universities, bars, lakes, parks, megamarkets, and tons of better areas to game in Belgrade besides Knez. When you look at the number and quality of actual lays coming from there opposed to other venues it makes sense to be more creative. Just my two cents.