[Highpool]

I've had unprotected sex with a lot of women who I never told my real name or contact info.

I'm aware that I might get them pregnant. I'm not going out of my way to do it but I'm not going out of my way to avoid it either.

[Travel Museums]

I thought long and hard about this issue in my early 20s and now again at 35. Back then it was in the context of marriage.

Now? Well marriage (or even full time cohabitation) is no longer a necessary part of my red pill equation. The conclusion however is still, and by default, no to kids.

Hey idiot: You should not have kids. I'm a stranger wagging my finger telling you not to have kids. Are you gonna tell me to fuck off? Maybe punch me in the face? No? Then you probably don't REALLY want the kids.

How can I say this? Because you'll have to fight!

If you're not gonna fight for them you've already lost. Ok maybe you'll fight me in an internet debate. How about her? Because you WILL disagree on parenting, housing, working, her relatives, just about every major and even many minor factors.

How much money/time do you have set aside to restart your life from scratch and to fight her AT THE SAME TIME? How good is your prenup? Your lawyer?? Laws in each state and/or country???

Odds are whatever the place you'll need to fight unfair matriarchal rules, even if not in a legal marriage. Maybe you win there, you still really lose because it will be a dragged out battle that fucks up your kids and your relationship with them.

Ok there's a caveat. You can travel and lasso a unicorn. I've lived in several foreign countires. For me that's a realistic option that I've looked into. So at least the window is open.

If I develop a solid relationship with an exceptional younger woman (ticks every single box) I could see myself having kids as late as 60.

So yeah, basically I will never have kids because of my age + finding her is unrealistic (advanced degree but will still cook, clean, and give me a massage?).

I don't know you. But let me wager this:
If you're American odds are your parents are divorced. Even if they stayed together you still see them (and marriage) as a negative example you don't want to follow.

Not only do we lack positive parental role models, our kids will lack the web of support that two sets of coupled grandparents are supposed to be.

Depending how fucked up your relationship is with your parents you may even go so far as to actively exclude them from access to your kids. Then there's her family situation to consider. Is it great enough to makeup for yours (or vice versa)? Probably not.

The general problem as I see it:
For Gen X/Y both parents had to work to afford kids. That is to raise them competitively.

It's only gotten worse. So you will be hiring some stranger to have fun with your kids. Then you get stuck with the mostly negative/thankless roles (discipline and working to support them).

Oh your wife stays at home? Good for her. You're position just got even worse in regards to the kids. Get on her bad side (inevitable) and watch them be turned against you.

My neighbor/best friend's family was a good example of the latter. If they weren't so staunch catholic it'd have imploded. The parents stuck together. Their daughter still ended up a crackhead prostitute.

Ironically this kind of shitty upbringing determines people to have kids all the more. Is this you? I have no idea.

I suggest you spend some time in therapy (or journaling). I literally talked about it with mine until I had nothing left to say that wasn't repeating myself on the issue. That's truly the only way to get a handle on how mommy/daddy/society are hamstering around in your head.

Yes, pair bonding and living together (regardless of "marriage") is obviously no longer a prerequisite for kids. This seems simple. It's not. Not at all. You're walking into a minefield.

You see all kinds of families nowadays. The reality is fatherless parenting is happening. This gets men confused.

You're single. Look over there. The grass is green. What a lovely pasture! You can't see the craters until you fall in. Then it's too late. You're left trying to scramble out with a leg blown off.

Got a traditional chica? No big deal if you get sloppy and cum inside? Nope! It's still an insidious issue involving myriad factors. Many are out of your control.

But I like fucking her, you say. Consider that once she has kids her sex appeal will greatly diminish. Maybe she'll let you fuck other girls. Maybe that will get used against you.

But her personality is great. She takes care of me! Her personality is likely to worsen with age and responsibility. Even if it doesn't her care-taking priorities shift to the bambinos. You'll get dinner, laundry, a sloppy house...and the bill.

Yes it's partly biological. You're wired for impregnating as many chicks as possible. What you want is normal.

And yes for some women and men having children is a true blessing. It improves their lives. They are subjectively happy. God bless them.

The objective reality is most of these men really had no idea what they were getting into with childcare. So they stay stuck behind the 8-ball their entire lives because of it.

I urge you, if you do have kids, get some experience first. You only get one shot to get it right. A lot of dads fuckup because they have very poor parenting skills from the start. They never recover.

Or they let their wives run the show. Never let a woman have too much control. Most aren't that great at mothering anyway. This loss of frame boils over into losing control in other areas of your life.

If I have kids I will be just as good or better with them than my woman. Why? I had a job in college taking care of a single mom's kids 7 days a week.

Yeah I was a manny! Manhattan is expensive. You do what you have to do to put a roof over your head and get an education.

Actually it was an eye-opening experience. Besides learning to raise kids into adolescence I got a hard dose of reality.

The mom was in her 40s, morbidly obese, unattractive, ethnic minority, Catholic, and the kicker: biologically unable to have kids. Her saving graces were not being ghetto, having an education, and massive financial help from family, friends, government, debt.

She had a job with social services so knew all the resources available to her. She used credit cards to fund invitro fertilization and had kids with the sperm of two different beta white lawyer friends (who provided some financial backing in exchange for kid access).

Whatever it takes right? This was all engineered so she could be "pushing a baby stroller" like the other women. She had kids to fix her unhappiness. Hey who am I to judge?

No matter that no man would do it normally with her. Nor nature was telling her to adopt. Her even uglier (and single!) sister actually adopted a fucked up foster kid who would come over and scream her head off for hours. Man was that a sad, painful sight.

Anyway, I bartered my male role modeling+childcare for a place to sleep. I did this for almost two years while I scrambled to finish my first degree and start my second.

Handling kids was actually the easy part. Most kids are born happy. It takes awhile to fuck them up. Changing diapers, feeding, supervision, teaching, etc is all super easy.

The hard part was my emotional cognitive dissonance. I was aware of the "unusual" circumstances they were being raised under, ignoring eviction notices being taped to the door, monthly bailouts by relatives, etc.

Meanwhile the mom is literally crying because I'm the one taking them to the playground, museums, basketball games. She'd stay up late watching home improvement shows in a fantasyland about the total dump of a pigsty she maintained.

She'd come home whenever she wanted. Hours past the agreed time. Act like nothing happened. Then say outrageous stuff like "so long as I'm there when they go to bed and wake up it's enough".

How did I not lose my shit emotionally? The luxury of them not being mine. I could just remind myself these are not my kids. Later today I will clock-out and bang a college chick.

But if they WERE my kids? Now way I could do that. I'd be having it out with mom every night. Hell even little problems that persist over time would have been enough to drive me insane.

And these were adorable kids. Everyone in the neighborhood assumed they had to be mine. I got a lot of positive attention and reinforcement from strangers.

None of that would have helped if they were mine. It'd have made me feel like I was living a lie. Boxed in, too proud to admit the thin veneer of a happy family was actually shit. But hey I keep in touch and the kids turned out OK.

Do I need to point out: there's really no longer any logical reason to have your own children. MAYBE someone to take care of you in old age. Other than that you're running purely on emotional fulfillment.

When that's gone or wearing thin? You've got nothing. It's a long time until senility. Those kids might not be talking to you by that point. That's if they ever really saw you as their father to begin with...

This all paints a rather bleak prognosis. But that's the reality for a lot of dads. Most are too naive to realize it. Or too proud to admit it.

There are success stories. I spent most of today with a nuclear Chinese family. They invited me on their tea expedition in the mountains of Xishuangbanna.

At one point the dad made a family joke to me: In America kid number one (points to daughter), woman number two (points to wife), dog is san (holds up 3 fingers), man (points to self) worse than dog.

I told him yeah unfortunately that's the reality. I'm unlikely to marry an American woman because of it. It's a terrible dynamic for most men. Things usually start out OK, but our middle class culture is broken. People are unhappy and so many separate.

We chatted with equal fascination about the Naxi-Mosu ethnic minority of Yunnan. They have a walking marriage that doesn't obligate men to stick around. Apparently they don't even make a big deal over who the dad actually is since women have lovers.

But the men don't inherit any property or assets and are basically marginalized. Not so great a trade-off for access to a small village of pussy. Obviously this only works in small villages. It doesn't really matter who the dad is if all the men stick around working anyway.

As an aside I spent time with both the Naxi and the Mosu subgroup. I even dated a rich girl from Lijiang who asked me to marry her. Turned her down. These things sound much better on paper. If you actually experience it they have the same problems as everyone. Not gonna work if you want to travel.

I asked in China is the man more important than woman. He said yes, and wife jokingly butta in and says no. They also said there's no more shortage of women in China. Not sure how statistically true that is...

Obviously there is some give and take in their relationship. Having some actual love for each other probably helps. But it's still a minefield. I really have no clue what the subjective reality of their lives are.

If you try monkeying around in traditional societies looking for a wife you better get fluent and establish yourself in that community. Most will still forever peg you as an outsider.

There may even be laws to that effect. I can't even date my Laos girl. It's illegal until you're actually married. Yeah she cooks, cleans, does massage. I'm not supposed to be alone in the same room with her!

Even if married I'll never be a citizen nor able to own land with security. I'd have almost no rights to any progeny in Laos. Yet she'd be able to divorce rape me in the USA all she wants. I've been warned by divorced expats there. Wives own the kids AND the business. The husband is just an employee.

I think about the best a guy can hope for is to stack social contacts and currency in her community. If it's patriarchal it then becomes hard for her to mistreat you. There'd be too much shame. If you can toe the line smoking, joking, drinking with the boys you might have a shot at a simple schmuck life.

To me that's boring. As others have mentioned, I might want to go half in. That is, spend some months there. But do my own pimp thing outside her country.

I just don't see that lifestyle working. Has anyone actually done that?

How is it working? Do your kids think you're James Bond? Or do they hate your guts?

Is your wife too nice or dumb to divorce rape you? Even though you're not "married". Is happy just having 25% when she could have 50% or maybe all of it?

The best case scenario I personally know of is a very rich friend of mine. He wifed up a FOB ugly SEA woman. She strung him along for a decade with no marriage and no kid.

He sacrificed his entire youth slaving away to grow his business and trying to get her pregnant. Soon as he really made it financially and wanted to get a top shelf wife she got pregnant. Accident? Hardly.

Now his kid is a decade younger than she should be. He's trapped until his 50s.

The wife seems nice. But uneducated and tacky. She dotes on the kid. Even brought over other poor relatives for him to raise like his own. He gets rid of her for a month every year when she goes home to SEA.

He got jacked like a stud. Changed his wardrobe. Cosmetic surgery. He put together an entourage and flew us around.

LA, Miami, Vegas, NYC. We got ridiculous tables with bottle service at all the best clubs. Presidential suite. His game was still weak and he was depressed.

It's too late. He missed his youth. I will say he's a good dad, at least.

That's a nontraditional situation with kids I personally know of that (kinda) works. Mostly because everyone has plenty of money and nice things, without working.

[phluff127]

My buddy just did this and it has worked out horribly for him. It's Expensive and eventually the girl moves on and wants nothing to do with you. Being an absentee father sounds a lot easier than I think it is in reality. To each his own, though.

[PapayaTapper]

(03-26-2017 09:59 PM)The Catalyst Wrote:  

If a girl was hot enough(and not crazy enough) I think my hindbrain would not be able to resist trying.

Trannies can't get pregnant tho

[Conquistador]

Yes, I would. I find this topic relates to my personal experience, so I will share my perspective based on that experience. I was born to unmarried parents back in the seventies. My father cheated on my mother while they both lived in a rural area. This meant that everyone found out what was going on, and my mom ended up humiliated. She left my father right after that, and moved us far away from him. I was only three years old at the time, so I don't remember any of this. My mom never remarried, and I remained in intermittent contact with my father.

Not growing up with a father impacted me greatly. My mother was on welfare most of the time, but was also always working to keep the welfare people off her back. This resulted in me being raised in poverty as a latchkey kid. I also ended up getting into drugs and somewhat into gangs, although I was able to straighten myself out when my mom sent me to live with my dad's part of the family, who were a bunch of hillbillies, but very hardworking people who taught me how to be useful and a hard worker.

Fast forward a few years, and I'm back living close to my mom again. I'm nineteen now, and I meet this girl that's eighteen. She already had a thee year-old by the time I met her. We end up having sex regularly, when one day she tries to pull a fast one on me. We are in the missionary position and I'm about to blast, when all of sudden she locks her legs around me and I cum inside her. She ends up getting pregnant from that encounter, and now pressures me to marry her. I tell her no way, but she threatens to get an abortion if I don't marry her. I don't budge, and she ends up getting an abortion. This was nineteen years ago, so my kid would have been graduating high school right about now. I often think about how my reluctance to marry this woman is responsible for her abortion, and sometimes wonder what I would do now if put in that same position.

Fast forward eight years, and i meet another eighteen year-old girl. This time I intentionally got her pregnant because I honestly felt I loved this woman, but apparently not enough to marry her. My daughter was born soon after, and everything was fine for a very short while. The mom was very inexperienced, was not very good at keeping house and was generally lazy in all aspects except for caring for my child. I was very impatient, and did not tolerate what in my mind was very disrespectful. This situation led to her eventually going and living with her parents.

Due to breaking up on bad terms, and me refusing to take her back, I was estranged from my daughter for almost four years. I had to go to court, and receive the run around from my daughter's mother, who point blank told me that she didn't want me in my daughter's life, and that I might as well give up. Well I didn't give up. I didn't want my daughter to grow up without knowing who her father was.

Now my daughter is ten, and I see her twice a week for about four hours each time. I always wonder what it would have been like seeing her everyday from the time she was little. Nonetheless, I feel content with the time I spend with her, and feel that we have bonded to my satisfaction. she doesn't appear to have any resentment towards me so I'm glad for that. Her mother simply told her that she had had a relationship with me in the past, and that was it. She is probably confused, but when she gets older I'll make sure and tell her that I loved her mother at the time if she ever asks. I think she is better off than many children that have gone through divorces though. She has an extensive family that's helping her have a happy childhood.

Her mother got with another guy, who also didn't marry her and had a kid with him, so at least she has a brother. Something that I never had, due to my mom never remarrying. I don't know how I feel, knowing that another man is raising my daughter to a certain extent, but there's not much I can do wither way.

Although I am currently single, having this child is a bit of an anchor in my life. I can't just get up and leave to another city or even travel much if at all. I plan on either waiting until she turns eighteen or simply loses interest in hanging out with me. I have thought about traveling the world, based on all of the stories I have read on here since about 2011 when I started lurking. I have also thought about having more kids in a similar arrangement, but obviously with more planning and foresight.

I truly believe that children need both parents in the home in order to maximize their chances in becoming healthy adults. This seems to be a fantasy though, as divorce is all but inevitable. One poster claims that what will your son think when he sees you are not fully committed to his mother? This is true, but at the same time has nothing to do with the man. The woman can decide that she is bored at any time, and relieve you of your duties as a husband, turning you into a weekend dad that now has to move out of his own house.

Marriage is largely debased, and has very little meaning anymore. We do not live in a traditional society so marriage makes little to no sense. I have "connections" in order to get a more traditional wife in a foreign country, but am so used to living in America that I doubt I would enjoy the trade off. Bring her back is also not an option for obvious reasons. America is transitioning to a different parenting model where co-parenting is considered a viable option. Articles like this show how people are thinking about this subject.

Maybe things like this will never be socially acceptable, but millenials seem like they don't care, as more than fifty percent of babies are now being born out of wedlock in cities like NYC.

Perhaps people will finally separate romantic relationships from parenting. Have kids with one person, while having sex and relationships with others. Adopting the stance that you can either enjoy a woman's company or you can raise children with her. Some guys can probably do both if they're lucky. Will be interesting what the next few decades bring to America.

[Travel Museums]

Final hour abortion stories are horrifying. I hate to imagine a woman putting a man through such nonsense: intentionally getting pregnant without planning nor the man's express consent and support, then scrapping it because he stands up for himself (and the baby). It shows how some women, at their core, really don't give a shit about the man nor his happiness.

Yes it's a bit irresponsible on both sides to have unprotected sex unless you're open to kids. But most smart guys finish outside. That coupled with various other kinds of female birth control reduce the chance of accidental pregnancy to near zero. There really isn't a significant risk of pregnancy unless you cum inside her OR the woman is completely irresponsible (can't swallow a freaking pill).

I've had condoms break. Then chicks put up token resistance to Plan B. "It's bad for my body/it's fake hormones/it screws up my period."

I have a degree in healthcare. So I validate their words and give it to her straight: "So does pregnancy! Do you have any idea what an unplanned pregnancy will do to your body? Not to mention both our lives. You will be ruining three people's lives by not swallowing a pill."

It's like people who are against vaccines and antibiotics because of small risks and adverse effects. Do you really want to go back to the days of a polio pandemic or dying from a scratch?

In the end, as the man, it's still out of your control. Chris Rock is a comedian not a sociologist. But his standup routine on a being a single black man who gets a girl pregnant says you have two responses:

"Oh I'm so happy! We're going to have a baby!!"

"So what you gonna do?"

Either you accept being a dad or you admit you have no control over whether that baby is born.

Tom Lykets had an all-else-fails, Hail Mary option where you reveal being abused as a kid and how scared you are to have kids because you'll abuse them terribly.

This is getting away from the OP. The best way to avoid these scenarios is practice self control, travel with quality condoms, flush used condoms, dont fuck around with hopeless trash.

[Suits]

I would, but only if I was impregnating this sexy little number:



Otherwise, no.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

The old German playboy Rolf Eden used to do this - he has multiple children with several women.

Actually one of his first lines when meeting women when he was past 60 was: "Do you want to have your first kid with me?"



That is useful when most what you have is wealth, then women think about being set for life from a million-dollar-baby and then finding love later.

In reality he just fucked most of them and only a paltry few got the valuable jizz.

However this Eden guy had a good relationship with most mothers and children, travelling often, supporting them etc. But he was worth 8 figures, so that helps.

[great white]

yes, i would and i will.

i will have two kids and i certainly don't plan to get officially married. why would i need to invite a brutish, dumb and idiotic state into my family, my house and my bedroom? i don't need that shit in my life.

i'll consider myself "married" the moment i consummate the relationship.

[Geomann180]

It depends on how old I am and whether or not I am married.

The closer I get to 60, unmarried and childless, the faster I'll buy tickets to the Philippines and the Ukraine in order to make a few deposits.

G

[whenthesunhits]

Realistically I don't think I would ever want the responsibility that comes with having children, but at the same time, I can feel the strong genetic drive to spread my seed. If there was ever an opportunity where I could sire a child but have little-to-no responsibility (without abandoning them), I would consider it. One of my wide orbit plates that I see once every few months is bisexual and has been in a LTR with another girl. She has talked about using my seed to have a child and then raising it with the girl. Both of them are crazy, especially the other girl, so might not be the best environment for a child, but I would definitely be open to it. I wouldn't mind dropping by once in a while to educate the child and lay down a firm hand. She's pretty (milk-skinned brunette with blue eyes) and very intelligent so genes are solid, and she makes a good living.

I also considered becoming a sperm donor. I applied to a few places and they were interested, but realized that it would place a lot of restrictions on my sexual activities and drug use. Maintaining my freedom in every possible way is paramount to me.

[Jean Valjean]

I've been pondering lately whether marriage actually hurts kids more than it helps them.

A lot of men say, "I got married so I could give my kids a stable home in which to live." Of course, the piece of paper isn't what keeps the family together, though. It's your paycheck, or your game, or whatever, that makes her want to stay. Briffault's Law, and all that.

If you suddenly lose your job, and stay unemployed for several months, then if your wife decides to leave, people will probably say it's justified, because she had to do what was best for herself and the kids. They may even say she's dumb if she stays with you. So the piece of paper doesn't help in that situation.

On the other hand, if she just happens to get tired of being with you, and wants to make up a false accusation like "He beat me" or "He emotionally abused me," then people will feel like they have to give her the benefit of the doubt and believe that. If she feels like frivorce would be frowned upon, then maybe she'll be MORE likely to fabricate a story about how you mistreated her, so that she won't be shamed for leaving. That could cause a lot of damage to your reputation (harming your ability to provide for others) and to your relationship with your kids.

In the event of separation or divorce, the piece of paper has nothing at all to do with who gets custody of the kids. The court's decision is all about "the best interests of the child" rather than any agreement or contract the parents had when they got married. If anything, the fact that you're married encourages her to dump you, if there's potential for her to collect alimony or a share of the marital property. If leaving you meant that she walked away with nothing other than maybe child support (as might be the case if you were unmarried), she might be more inclined to stay.

The main effect of marriage is that you, the husband, feel bound by your agreement to stay, because of your own principles and/or the cultural stigma against arbitrarily dumping your wife. Suppose after you get married, she starts getting fat, or becomes frigid, or whatever. You might say, "Well, if we weren't married, I might dump her and have kids with someone else instead, given the way she's acting. But I promised to stay with her, so I better do that. And since I want kids, I guess I better knock her up."

Because you feel like you can't leave her, she's free to do pretty much whatever she wants. She can indulge in all kinds of bad behavior that's detrimental to the family, because she no longer has any competition, given that she has locked you down. You can't even go MGTOW at that point. You end up doubling down on a situation that could be deteriorating, and potentially subjecting more kids to that environment, rather than cutting your losses and getting the hell out.

So what's the benefit of marriage? I guess it could make her and her family trust you more if you make that commitment. She might say, "Maybe it's worth forgoing the carousel for the opportunity to marry this high-value guy." You might be able to get a better chick than if you weren't offering marriage.

But once you marry her, she becomes basically your owner, since she can dump you, but you can't dump her. If you were both bound to stay together, then it would be a situation where you would sink or swim together, giving you both an incentive to behave well. If you were both free to leave at any time, then you would both have to be on your "A" game, and it would simply be acknowledged that once you're done having kids with her, she would need to continue offering value in order to remain your wife (just like you need to continue offering value to keep her around).

But if you're giving her security without any binding commitment in return, that's only taking care of half the equation that's needed to maintain a stable household in which the parents work together for the benefit of the kids. It could actually make the situation worse, because it puts her in a position of control, and women (at least, feminine women) aren't naturally suited to leadership.

I guess it could be considered insulting to tell a woman, "I don't want to get married, because I don't trust a woman to stay loyal unless she's compelled to, and marriage doesn't provide that compulsion." But that's no more insulting than if a woman says, "I want to get married, because I don't trust a man to stay loyal unless he's compelled to."

[Tytalus]

I tried that at 18. She got an Abortion and dumped me... So, didn't end well, I don't recommend it.

[Slam]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I just came across an interesting comment in the Poland thread.

Basically, the guy found what sounded like a unicorn who wanted to be a mother for awhile, but who then 'changed her mind' and wanted to pursue a career.

Quote:

The lesson to learn here is simply this, a women will NEVER choose you over a career, the brainwashing is that deep, I understand this now more than ever. If you want to have a young sweet wife with a kid here in Poland like me and live a traditional normal life, in a bubble of patriarchy by your own creation, there is no way around it, get them before university (they leave highschool at 19 here), stay with them for half a year to a year, and if you feel she would make good mother material and you have screened them efficiently enough, you will have to make the conception look like an accident, this is extremely morally questionable but I do not see any other way. I will never forget during the pregnancy scare how much she looked forward to the possibility of motherhood, only to then completely reverse that train of thought when it was no longer so. This is a very controversial line of thought, but is there any other real alternative? Women often cant tell you what they want for breakfast, why would they know what is best for themselves longterm, its take matters into your own hand or wait out her fertile years childless.

Basically the idea he puts forward (not that I am advocating it, but it sounds like an interesting play for the modern world) is that because women are indecisive and take the shape of the container that they fill, why not impregnate her before she thinks about it too much and has time to be brainwashed by the careerism / Cultural Marxism industry?

I identify with his desire of having a young sweet wife and kid. So... if you've found your "near-unicorn", this might be a way to pull her into motherhood, even if you aren't married yet.

I find this a VERY intriguing approach. Again, if you've got a sweet young virgin and you've vetted her, why not put a baby in her before she can think too much about it?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(04-05-2017 01:45 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

The old German playboy Rolf Eden used to do this - he has multiple children with several women.

Actually one of his first lines when meeting women when he was past 60 was: "Do you want to have your first kid with me?"



That is useful when most what you have is wealth, then women think about being set for life from a million-dollar-baby and then finding love later.

In reality he just fucked most of them and only a paltry few got the valuable jizz.

However this Eden guy had a good relationship with most mothers and children, travelling often, supporting them etc. But he was worth 8 figures, so that helps.

This could have worked many decades ago, when child support laws were still sane and based on what a child actually cost to take care of. But nowadays when child support is expressed as % of father's salary instead of a fixed universal amount, that's just begging to get fucked in the ass. Good luck with your $10 million / month income when a lesbian cunt of a judge sets child support at $2 million / month because of "how would the child feel if it knew that its father was saving on it." (I wish I was joking, but this is an actual legal opinion that's used very often)