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(02-17-2017 07:23 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  

Lets identify some common mannerisms is the female population and see if someone has the answer. I'll go first.

Any mannerisms you come up with will apply to both females and males. Some mannerisms will apply more to one group than the other but the manosphere idea that women have psychological quirks or issues that men don't have isn't realistic.

(02-17-2017 11:18 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  

I meant to ask why girls act like they want to see you again when they have no intentions of doing so. What is their motivation?

It could be many things. Here are a few examples.

1 Girls are irrational and frequently change their mind. Don't expect them to behave logically.

2 It is uncomfortable to directly tell someone that you aren't interested. Most people, including guys, will go with something much more subtle. What do you do when a girl keeps texting you even though you aren't interested? Do you immediately tell her to stop because you aren't interested? Probably not. Most girls don't want to be rude so they might have short conversations with you and try to be polite even though they aren't interested in seeing you again.

3 Attractive girls usually have other guys that they are talking to or sleeping with.

4 Some girls love the attention so they don't stop you from continuing to give them attention.

(02-18-2017 04:41 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  

I'm less frustrated and am just curious. I know the nature of women; they have their ways of doing things and rarely is it straight forward and I'm alright with that. What I don't like is not understanding their intentions.

You never know someone truely until you know what they want; what drives them. I'm just seeking understanding

Most of the time you won't know what their specific motivation was and it usually doesn't matter. What is more important is how you handle things if you want to bang them again or want a chance at banging them again. Don't chase them but possibly follow up with them in several months. Let them go on the best possible terms, i.e. don't get angry, frustrated, or needy.

Blackdragon doesn't get much love on this forum because he does open relationships. It's too bad because most of what he talks about applies to any relationship from friends with benefits to more serious LTRs. He writes about a lot of simple concepts (that aren't at odds with basic psychology like some manosphere opinions) such as Softs Nexts, Long Soft Nexts from girls and how to handle them, why you shouldn't be controlling, etc. I've had girls come back to me in many situations just because I knew how to let them go, or why I should disengage and follow up several months later, or how to make it easy for them to come back.

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(02-20-2017 05:00 PM)birthday cat Wrote:  

I've had girls come back to me in many situations just because I knew how to let them go, or why I should disengage and follow up several months later, or how to make it easy for them to come back.

Do you think you could share your experience on this with, perhaps, a few examples? Maybe a separate thread would be better on this topic which I don't think gets enough attention.

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^ I've had a few girls who were friends with benefits or low end mini-relationships who stopped seeing me because they wanted a more serious relationship or they found a boyfriend. I didn't get needy or possessive. I didn't chase them too much but I probably followed up with some of them too many times. I took their numbers out of my phone and saved them in a spreadsheet so I couldn't contact them. I go through that spreadsheet occasionally and send restart texts to girls that I have not talked with for a couple months. Some girls come back and some don't. It's a simple process. There isn't a lot of "game" involved. It's just a numbers game that if X number of girls leave you - but if you stay cool, don't get needy, don't pressure them, don't judge them - then Y number of those girls will come back because girls are in and out of relationships and change their minds a lot.

I met one of the hotter girls that I've banged on Tinder. I remember seeing the disappointment in her body language when she first saw me at a bar and realized she was a lot taller than me with her heels on. We still had a good time but I couldn't get the bang and she updated her Tinder profile with her height a few days later. I took her number out of my phone after I couldn't setup a 2nd meeting. I really wanted to bang this girl so I followed up with her several times, usually with at least 2 months in between each time contacting her. Eventually she sent me a text on a Friday to ask what I was doing because she was bored. We met up for drinks and I got the bang after a couple hours of last 'minute' resistance. It didn't require a lot of game either. I just didn't do anything wrong and I was as persistent as possible without being needy.

I had a date with another girl that I almost got the bang but didn't. I met her again at a club but my friend and I had some drama with her friends who were very drunk. A few days later she told me she wouldn't meet me again and my response was something like "my friend and I did nothing wrong, but I know the girls have been her friends for a long time so I don't blame her for taking their side, everything is cool if I see them out again, and I wish her the best." I had every right to be angry but I knew that it wouldn't get me anywhere. I travelled back to her city about a year later and sent a restart text and banged her a few days later. She had not spoken with the same friends for months because they had been fighting.

None of this is complicated. It's very simple but guys have trouble with the execution because they don't understand the basics about women and they get frustrated with women's lack of logic or unpredictability. Sometimes you don't need a lot of game but you just need to know what not to do. Don't be needy, don't get angry or frustrated, don't pressure, don't judge, etc. If a girl breaks up with her boyfriend and there are 10 guys in her phone that she will choose from to hook up with next - you want to be the guy that is the least likely to do those things because the girl just wants to have sex without creating any problems for herself.