Imma go H.A.M. on Mr. Paramount's mentally challenged asian poll/closed thread
08-22-2011, 01:07 AM
Don't know why that thread was closed - maybe paramount's a troll. No matter. Don't know and don't care if any of you are interested, but here's a fucking tirade:
1. Paramount's points are in general pretty counterproductive to general Asian American pussy scoring advancement (yes, that should definitely be a movement). I was once talking to this asian girl I'd been hitting about being asian in north america. Her previous bf was white, so she made the off-hand remark that in terms of the whole race totem pole, asian men were at the bottom. It was a remark borne of pity, but needlessly to say I went H.A.M. on her (we went on to bang that night). Basically, my philosophy then and now is that Asian men in this society need to be irrationally self-confident. Fucking ubermensch urselves. Is it true that Asian American men have it worse than others? Statistically, yes. But to accept that statistic as applicable to yourself or anyone you know is self-limiting from the get go. It's just a statistic. Discard it. Shouldn't matter, doesn't matter. Denial and delusion are better for your game.
2. I do agree that asian american tiger-mom culture is a pernicious influence on asian american men. In fact, I really truly despise it. The thing is, this tiger-mom culture has its roots in societies that are traditionally hierarchical (confucian in China, maybe the caste system in India). There is a real premium on education and obedience because that is how one materially succeeds in life - please your higher-ups and you will be rewarded. And in said societies where material success or failure for centuries literally meant the difference between starvation and survival, it's pretty ingrained. This is really sad because in asia, ASIAN WOMEN ARE THE BIGGEST TOOLERS OF BETA PROVIDERS THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN. One Chinese reality tv star once scoffed "I'd rather cry in a BMW than smile on a bicycle." I almost feel bad for guys in China who work as corporate slaves (they work you even harder than Americans) just so they can buy their entitled wives another gucci bag. There's a real tunnel vision in Asia that your worth as a man is 100 percent dictated by your bank account and the car you drive.
3. Compound these millenia long social mores with the success of the asian american immigrant experience. Tiger Moms are created when they see that damn, all that studying really does pay off. As a minority, Asians are perhaps the most educated and materially well off. So no doubt Asian parents want to see their children build on their success. Hey, we made it in America - now you can too (and you better). My own parents, while not nearly as overzealous as most of their peers, still cling to the belief that "hard work = good job = money = good wife." When my parents found out I got into an Ivy League law school, their first reaction was joy; their second was "now you can work hard, stop chasing girls, make bank, and then you will have no problem finding a wife." I didn't want to fight them on it, but I know for a fact this is not the case. Imma chase money for money with no illusions about its effectiveness is procuring hot women.
4. Which isn't to say that you shouldn't work hard. Asian American values do have their merits. It's just that you should work hard and smart. Replace the drive to be a high paid wage slave with the drive to be BOSS. I may be in law school, but I'm in a race against time to turn my education consulting firm into a multimillion dollar enterprise. It's not our parents' fault that they didn't cultivate us to be creative artists or daring entrepreneurs. They made it in America on their terms, and so they can only give their kids the tools to do what they did.
5. Wow, that was long-winded. So what else should I say? Well, first, let's actually address the "disadvantages" asian males possess in terms of scoring poon in America (and I'm 80% sure we're talking about the prized "blonde white girl"). First, the cultural baggage can be lost. It's not easy, but it can be done. Second, there's this idea that Asian men have less testosterone and tend to be less dominant. True, but really not that big of a deal. You can work out and put on muscle. And unlike other races, asians tend to have lower body fat, so you can get that ripped brad pitt fight club look that MOST women, white or asian, like. Nobody likes juice heads except snooky. You can practice being more assertive - this can be done through a combination of learning game, emotional psychology, and speech practice. In any case, I think I'm already flogging a dead horse with the vast majority of my post, but let me provide just one example of an Asian guy who does very well in America: my Indian friend Neal. He's not good looking, kinda fat, and about average height. He's not particularly charming, but he has sky high confidence. He's a hustler. I see him getting hot sorority girls all the time, and when he and I were working for the same company, he managed to bang some married milf coworker.
6. But let me put this in a broader perspective. First, there are 300 million people in America. There maybe 150 million women. Let's say only 10 percent of that is bangable to an average asian guy ie. 15 million. Let's say you have the lofty goal of sleeping with 300 women in your lifetime. Let's say you have a paltry success rate of closing only 10% of the women you go after. If you approach 3000 women, that's 300 banged. Yes, 3000 is a lot, but it's a far cry from 15 million. The point is that as an asian guy, you won't be able to get EVERY girl. Some girls are racist while others like juice heads and guys over 6 feet. But the thing is, nobody can get every girl. But you don't have to. You barely need to be attractive to even a majority of women.
7. And then, let me just say this: If there's anything we've learned from Roosh Forums, it's that there is a great big world of women out there! We all know that America is a declining society, and we all know the pathetic state that American women are in. People have already pointed out the "selling your exoticism" route in certain countries, so I won't go into that. But I will add that you should capitalize on your status as an American IN YOUR HOME COUNTRY. I don't know what it's like for Indian dudes in India, but I don't see why they can't capitalize like Chinese American dudes do in China. In a society that practically worships status and envies America, you have the pedigree (and probably the education) to attract hundreds of women in your home country. This is not about gold diggers thinking you have money (but that will certainly happen) - this is about your home country folk worshipping you like a god. My friend Mike does not get laid more than average here, but when he was in China teaching english he practically tripled his notch count. Girls APPROACHED HIM! As for gold diggers, now that you've learned some game, tool them. Let them think that you'll get serious with them and that you'll buy them some nice shit. Lie. Lie, get the bang, and never contact them again (use protection though, and find yourself a good network of buddies/cousins who can defend you in a street fight in case her village comes chasing after you). I have been prodded by countless FOB (fresh off the boat) friends to move to China. They all tell me the same story about the Asian Americans cleaning up. And well, I plan doing just that by studying abroad in my 3rd year of law school.
So in summary: Are Asian Americans at a disadvantage? Yeah, but it doesn't apply to you, deny deny deny, and delude yourself silly. Asian culture is REALLY fucked up. Unlearn it, borrow from its merits, and hustle until you are BOSS. Learn game and bang some hot women in America. Then get yourselves back to your respective home countries and live like gods.
1. Paramount's points are in general pretty counterproductive to general Asian American pussy scoring advancement (yes, that should definitely be a movement). I was once talking to this asian girl I'd been hitting about being asian in north america. Her previous bf was white, so she made the off-hand remark that in terms of the whole race totem pole, asian men were at the bottom. It was a remark borne of pity, but needlessly to say I went H.A.M. on her (we went on to bang that night). Basically, my philosophy then and now is that Asian men in this society need to be irrationally self-confident. Fucking ubermensch urselves. Is it true that Asian American men have it worse than others? Statistically, yes. But to accept that statistic as applicable to yourself or anyone you know is self-limiting from the get go. It's just a statistic. Discard it. Shouldn't matter, doesn't matter. Denial and delusion are better for your game.
2. I do agree that asian american tiger-mom culture is a pernicious influence on asian american men. In fact, I really truly despise it. The thing is, this tiger-mom culture has its roots in societies that are traditionally hierarchical (confucian in China, maybe the caste system in India). There is a real premium on education and obedience because that is how one materially succeeds in life - please your higher-ups and you will be rewarded. And in said societies where material success or failure for centuries literally meant the difference between starvation and survival, it's pretty ingrained. This is really sad because in asia, ASIAN WOMEN ARE THE BIGGEST TOOLERS OF BETA PROVIDERS THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN. One Chinese reality tv star once scoffed "I'd rather cry in a BMW than smile on a bicycle." I almost feel bad for guys in China who work as corporate slaves (they work you even harder than Americans) just so they can buy their entitled wives another gucci bag. There's a real tunnel vision in Asia that your worth as a man is 100 percent dictated by your bank account and the car you drive.
3. Compound these millenia long social mores with the success of the asian american immigrant experience. Tiger Moms are created when they see that damn, all that studying really does pay off. As a minority, Asians are perhaps the most educated and materially well off. So no doubt Asian parents want to see their children build on their success. Hey, we made it in America - now you can too (and you better). My own parents, while not nearly as overzealous as most of their peers, still cling to the belief that "hard work = good job = money = good wife." When my parents found out I got into an Ivy League law school, their first reaction was joy; their second was "now you can work hard, stop chasing girls, make bank, and then you will have no problem finding a wife." I didn't want to fight them on it, but I know for a fact this is not the case. Imma chase money for money with no illusions about its effectiveness is procuring hot women.
4. Which isn't to say that you shouldn't work hard. Asian American values do have their merits. It's just that you should work hard and smart. Replace the drive to be a high paid wage slave with the drive to be BOSS. I may be in law school, but I'm in a race against time to turn my education consulting firm into a multimillion dollar enterprise. It's not our parents' fault that they didn't cultivate us to be creative artists or daring entrepreneurs. They made it in America on their terms, and so they can only give their kids the tools to do what they did.
5. Wow, that was long-winded. So what else should I say? Well, first, let's actually address the "disadvantages" asian males possess in terms of scoring poon in America (and I'm 80% sure we're talking about the prized "blonde white girl"). First, the cultural baggage can be lost. It's not easy, but it can be done. Second, there's this idea that Asian men have less testosterone and tend to be less dominant. True, but really not that big of a deal. You can work out and put on muscle. And unlike other races, asians tend to have lower body fat, so you can get that ripped brad pitt fight club look that MOST women, white or asian, like. Nobody likes juice heads except snooky. You can practice being more assertive - this can be done through a combination of learning game, emotional psychology, and speech practice. In any case, I think I'm already flogging a dead horse with the vast majority of my post, but let me provide just one example of an Asian guy who does very well in America: my Indian friend Neal. He's not good looking, kinda fat, and about average height. He's not particularly charming, but he has sky high confidence. He's a hustler. I see him getting hot sorority girls all the time, and when he and I were working for the same company, he managed to bang some married milf coworker.
6. But let me put this in a broader perspective. First, there are 300 million people in America. There maybe 150 million women. Let's say only 10 percent of that is bangable to an average asian guy ie. 15 million. Let's say you have the lofty goal of sleeping with 300 women in your lifetime. Let's say you have a paltry success rate of closing only 10% of the women you go after. If you approach 3000 women, that's 300 banged. Yes, 3000 is a lot, but it's a far cry from 15 million. The point is that as an asian guy, you won't be able to get EVERY girl. Some girls are racist while others like juice heads and guys over 6 feet. But the thing is, nobody can get every girl. But you don't have to. You barely need to be attractive to even a majority of women.
7. And then, let me just say this: If there's anything we've learned from Roosh Forums, it's that there is a great big world of women out there! We all know that America is a declining society, and we all know the pathetic state that American women are in. People have already pointed out the "selling your exoticism" route in certain countries, so I won't go into that. But I will add that you should capitalize on your status as an American IN YOUR HOME COUNTRY. I don't know what it's like for Indian dudes in India, but I don't see why they can't capitalize like Chinese American dudes do in China. In a society that practically worships status and envies America, you have the pedigree (and probably the education) to attract hundreds of women in your home country. This is not about gold diggers thinking you have money (but that will certainly happen) - this is about your home country folk worshipping you like a god. My friend Mike does not get laid more than average here, but when he was in China teaching english he practically tripled his notch count. Girls APPROACHED HIM! As for gold diggers, now that you've learned some game, tool them. Let them think that you'll get serious with them and that you'll buy them some nice shit. Lie. Lie, get the bang, and never contact them again (use protection though, and find yourself a good network of buddies/cousins who can defend you in a street fight in case her village comes chasing after you). I have been prodded by countless FOB (fresh off the boat) friends to move to China. They all tell me the same story about the Asian Americans cleaning up. And well, I plan doing just that by studying abroad in my 3rd year of law school.
So in summary: Are Asian Americans at a disadvantage? Yeah, but it doesn't apply to you, deny deny deny, and delude yourself silly. Asian culture is REALLY fucked up. Unlearn it, borrow from its merits, and hustle until you are BOSS. Learn game and bang some hot women in America. Then get yourselves back to your respective home countries and live like gods.