The reason I'm making this thread is that by the end of it, I will be in a place where I can effortlessly go out to run day game, set up dates, go on dates and sleep with girls.
I can go out and turn random encounters into dates, but I just don't want to.
Call it a low sex drive, call it a lack of motivation, call it PSAD, but I just don't feel a whole lot of enthusiasm about the idea of going out and talking to American chicks.
I'm currently in a situation where I'll be in the US for a few months. Hopefully less. But I'm here now. Waiting until I go abroad again where I have ample motivation to do these kind of things isn't going to work. I need to have sex now.
I know what I want out of life and I know what I want out of women. I know where the women that I want to spend my time with are at. I know what I have to do in order to get there. Hence bunkering down and making money before jetting of again.
It's not for lack of opportunities that I'm not banging girls. I meet plenty of women throughout the day at coffee shops, at yoga, etc. I open just about everybody, guys and girls that come into my world. The problem is that I don't engage these interactions with a lot of sexual intent.
I rarely look at a girl and think, "Damn I want to sleep with her. I'm going to take her home and fuck her ASAP."
Sometimes I look at girls and think, "eh, I wouldn't mind fucking her, but it seems like I'd have to deal with a lot of bullshit to do it. I'd rather just go read a book."
I know there's a lot of bullshit that goes on with game. That's why it's called game, because it's a game. Maybe that's where my resistance comes from. I hate games. I'm not a huge fan of interactions where I go on autopilot and I carry out a sequence of lines that are proven to create a specific result. That's sales. That's commodifying women. They are a commoditity, especially in this sexual market place.
I don't understand what the issue is here. Maybe it's an especially deep and pervasive form of game denialism. I don't know. I just know that I've found a place where I don't have this issue with women. I'm not there right now though. I'm here, deep in the heart of a culture where if I want to have sex then I have to run game. It feels inauthentic to me to do certain things and that's what I'm most worried about.
I hate the idea that I have to go against my nature and do things that are deeply against who I am just to get sex. I don't drink and I hate bars. If I went out to bars regularly I would be banging girls there. but I hate everything about that, so i don't do it. Hence day game. I can run day game without having to do something that I don't want to do.
But there is some awkwardness that exists between me and American female. I make them uncomfortable. I've done so much shit in my life that it just gets hard to talk to most of them because they either don't understand, they don't want to understand, or they get jealous or competitive. So the shit that I want to talk about most with people here I don't get a lot of opportunity to talk about because people don't have the bandwidth for.
That leaves me with talking about them, talking about bullshit mainstream culture or whatever other interests they have, or doing things that don't require talking. That's my favorite thing to do. I'd rather we dont talk. Just let me massage your body and help you relax...
Most girls require some communication before they're done for things like that. So I just need to open up to the idea that I have to talk to people about things that I don't necessarily care about as much, but is still fun for me to be in the interaction because it'll make them want more.
I've narrowed in on my biggest game issues by writing this all out just now. So the two things I need to work on are:
a) Being more open to hearing women talking about themselves. Getting better at turning small talk and random chit chat into interesting conversations.
...
Again, this feels inauthentic to me. Hearing some college girl ramble on about her psychology class is pretty fucking stupid. There is no value in that. I can't keep a straight face or pretend to be interested if a girl starts talking about stupid shit.
Maybe some other guy could do it. but it just points out a huge value mismatch between me and the girl. I feel like I'm cheapening myself to go through something like that just to get sex.
I'll give it a shot though. I'll stick through more interactions with girls that I'm interested in sleeping with and swallow my pride/lower my conversational standards and see what happens. It's something I haven't done in a while and I want to get different results than what I'm getting now, so I'll give it a shot.
B) Having more to say about things that I'm interested in.
I have a ton of interests and I do a lot of things. Not all of them are things that 18-25 college girls are capable of talking about though. The travel thing is a good topic. One thing I could be better at is having packaged stories that I can tell that are good at getting girls excited and interested and want to make them continue the interaction and sleep with me.
Actually yeah, that's probably a huge leverage point that I'm not tapping into. I need to sit down and think about the emotions that I want girls to feel around me and find stories that I've lived through that will help convey those emotions, then write them out so that I'm better at telling them in the moment.
I typically do pretty well when I'm engaged in the convo and am interested in the girl and the feeling is mutual. It usually is. The bigger problem I run into is that I make girls feel insecure because I'm too cool for them.
That's the bigger challenge I'll have to overcome with the 18-25 bimbo crowd. So I need to come up with stories that humanize me a bit more to them and make them feel like they have a shot with me.
Anyway, that's a lot of rambling. I'll report back in later on with some reports of interactions I have. Maybe I'll go hang out at the nearby college and do some daygame there. Maybe I'll hang out at a coffee shop and chat up some people there.
I also need to figure out a better way of engaging people at the Bikram Yoga studio so that I can harvest those leads. I'm the hot guy at yoga. Maybe I'm taking the yoga too seriously though. I just go there to do yoga, not to meet girls. That'd be the best place to meet them. But it's such an awkward dynamic. There's like a 5 minute window after class where people hang out and chat sometimes. After that they shower off and disappear. So I just need to figure out how to manage that social dynamic and leverage that window to making dates happen.
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R - Im going to start talking to more 18-25 yr old bimbos and put more energy into leading those interactions to sexual encounters.
I can go out and turn random encounters into dates, but I just don't want to.
Call it a low sex drive, call it a lack of motivation, call it PSAD, but I just don't feel a whole lot of enthusiasm about the idea of going out and talking to American chicks.
I'm currently in a situation where I'll be in the US for a few months. Hopefully less. But I'm here now. Waiting until I go abroad again where I have ample motivation to do these kind of things isn't going to work. I need to have sex now.
I know what I want out of life and I know what I want out of women. I know where the women that I want to spend my time with are at. I know what I have to do in order to get there. Hence bunkering down and making money before jetting of again.
It's not for lack of opportunities that I'm not banging girls. I meet plenty of women throughout the day at coffee shops, at yoga, etc. I open just about everybody, guys and girls that come into my world. The problem is that I don't engage these interactions with a lot of sexual intent.
I rarely look at a girl and think, "Damn I want to sleep with her. I'm going to take her home and fuck her ASAP."
Sometimes I look at girls and think, "eh, I wouldn't mind fucking her, but it seems like I'd have to deal with a lot of bullshit to do it. I'd rather just go read a book."
I know there's a lot of bullshit that goes on with game. That's why it's called game, because it's a game. Maybe that's where my resistance comes from. I hate games. I'm not a huge fan of interactions where I go on autopilot and I carry out a sequence of lines that are proven to create a specific result. That's sales. That's commodifying women. They are a commoditity, especially in this sexual market place.
I don't understand what the issue is here. Maybe it's an especially deep and pervasive form of game denialism. I don't know. I just know that I've found a place where I don't have this issue with women. I'm not there right now though. I'm here, deep in the heart of a culture where if I want to have sex then I have to run game. It feels inauthentic to me to do certain things and that's what I'm most worried about.
I hate the idea that I have to go against my nature and do things that are deeply against who I am just to get sex. I don't drink and I hate bars. If I went out to bars regularly I would be banging girls there. but I hate everything about that, so i don't do it. Hence day game. I can run day game without having to do something that I don't want to do.
But there is some awkwardness that exists between me and American female. I make them uncomfortable. I've done so much shit in my life that it just gets hard to talk to most of them because they either don't understand, they don't want to understand, or they get jealous or competitive. So the shit that I want to talk about most with people here I don't get a lot of opportunity to talk about because people don't have the bandwidth for.
That leaves me with talking about them, talking about bullshit mainstream culture or whatever other interests they have, or doing things that don't require talking. That's my favorite thing to do. I'd rather we dont talk. Just let me massage your body and help you relax...
Most girls require some communication before they're done for things like that. So I just need to open up to the idea that I have to talk to people about things that I don't necessarily care about as much, but is still fun for me to be in the interaction because it'll make them want more.
I've narrowed in on my biggest game issues by writing this all out just now. So the two things I need to work on are:
a) Being more open to hearing women talking about themselves. Getting better at turning small talk and random chit chat into interesting conversations.
...
Again, this feels inauthentic to me. Hearing some college girl ramble on about her psychology class is pretty fucking stupid. There is no value in that. I can't keep a straight face or pretend to be interested if a girl starts talking about stupid shit.
Maybe some other guy could do it. but it just points out a huge value mismatch between me and the girl. I feel like I'm cheapening myself to go through something like that just to get sex.
I'll give it a shot though. I'll stick through more interactions with girls that I'm interested in sleeping with and swallow my pride/lower my conversational standards and see what happens. It's something I haven't done in a while and I want to get different results than what I'm getting now, so I'll give it a shot.
B) Having more to say about things that I'm interested in.
I have a ton of interests and I do a lot of things. Not all of them are things that 18-25 college girls are capable of talking about though. The travel thing is a good topic. One thing I could be better at is having packaged stories that I can tell that are good at getting girls excited and interested and want to make them continue the interaction and sleep with me.
Actually yeah, that's probably a huge leverage point that I'm not tapping into. I need to sit down and think about the emotions that I want girls to feel around me and find stories that I've lived through that will help convey those emotions, then write them out so that I'm better at telling them in the moment.
I typically do pretty well when I'm engaged in the convo and am interested in the girl and the feeling is mutual. It usually is. The bigger problem I run into is that I make girls feel insecure because I'm too cool for them.
That's the bigger challenge I'll have to overcome with the 18-25 bimbo crowd. So I need to come up with stories that humanize me a bit more to them and make them feel like they have a shot with me.
Anyway, that's a lot of rambling. I'll report back in later on with some reports of interactions I have. Maybe I'll go hang out at the nearby college and do some daygame there. Maybe I'll hang out at a coffee shop and chat up some people there.
I also need to figure out a better way of engaging people at the Bikram Yoga studio so that I can harvest those leads. I'm the hot guy at yoga. Maybe I'm taking the yoga too seriously though. I just go there to do yoga, not to meet girls. That'd be the best place to meet them. But it's such an awkward dynamic. There's like a 5 minute window after class where people hang out and chat sometimes. After that they shower off and disappear. So I just need to figure out how to manage that social dynamic and leverage that window to making dates happen.
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R - Im going to start talking to more 18-25 yr old bimbos and put more energy into leading those interactions to sexual encounters.
