[CJ_W]

I rarely look at reddit unless its for VERY Niche interests and I clicked over to the front page after looking at a certain language learning sub and saw this story on the front page:

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/5...h=4b5d0f7b

I was scratching my head so I decided to copy pasta a comment someone wrote there, it has a lot of questions that popped into my head once I thought about it:

Quote:


Yeah the whole thing seems kind of sketch, not many redditors are thinking straight. oh well, Redditors gonna reddit.

The fact that the link isnt up anymore and people are "outraged" (without even reading the article) is pretty telling.

That and the guy decided to choose now of all times to do this, did he have an appointment with the doctor?

Any kind of Notice?

Was the guy aware that 100% of countries dont let you in without some kind of visa?

Are Redditors HERE not aware of that? Are Redditors (and this guy) aware that the only reason you can travel to other countries is because there are deals between their home country and the country they want to go to that allows Tourist Visas, and countries can change that at will, WITHOUT consulting with the citizens of that country, and that this can happen at ANY TIME?

Why is your 76 year old mom traveling if she's terminally ill in the first place?

Was she getting medical treatment in Iraq? Why?

How did she get an appointment to get treatment from a hospital in the U.S. with NO insurance, No U.S./State I.D. No passport?

There are just too many questions that just boggle my mind, I mean are people THAT easily manipulated by such a misleading headline? No one is wondering why the story was taken down from the site? I dont see this story on any other news aggregate site but Reddit, does this NOT look suspicious? Or do most of the smart people just not visit this site anymore. I remember when I was growing up in the 90's people would always say "question everything" or "Dont believe everything you hear on TV" What happened to questioning everything?

What happened to not believe everything you hear on TV? It's like we're doing the opposite now.

I feel that if CNN came on the news tonight and said "The Sky is now green." everyone would believe it.
SO many questions. So many.

[Gmac]

#FakeNews

Someone is really trying to push this story though.

https://www.reddit.com/domain/fox2detroit.com/

[spokepoker]

Here's a repost:
https://usuncut.com/news/detroit-family-...turn-home/

Quote:

A US businessman who flew to Iraq for vacation tried to bring his mother back to the US for medical treatment, but was prevented from returning with her by Trump’s immigration order, and instead his mother died just one day after being told she couldn’t enter the United States.

Mike Hager worked alongside United States Marines and Army forces during the second Iraq war — he had fled with his family during the first, under President H. W. Bush.

Hager lives and operates a business in Detroit. He says his mom would still be alive today if President Donald Trump had not instituted his travel ban.

Hager said he was returning home with his family, including mother, who has lived in the US since 1995.

In line at the airport in Iraq on Friday, Hager, a U.S. citizen, was told he could pass, but not his family members, legal permanent residents holding green cards.

“They destroyed us. I went with my family, I came back by myself. They destroyed our family,” Hager said.

FOX reports that Hager lived in a refugee camp with his family for four years before settling in the United States, returning to Iraq as a contractor for the United States Special forces between 2003 and 2008 as an interpreter. His work alongside the US military even caused him to be shot in the back.

“The immigration told us that the President of the United States put an order right now – you guys cannot go,” he told FOX 2 Detroit.

He says he didn’t expect it to be a problem for the family to travel since they all had green cards and had lived in the United States for 20 years.

“I was just shocked. I had to put my mom back on the wheelchair and take her back and call the ambulance and she was very very upset. She knew right there if we send her back to the hospital she’s going to pass away – she’s not going to make it,” Hager said, who blamed her death on President Trump.

“I really believe this in my heart: if they would have let us in, my mom – she would have made it and she would have been sitting right here next to me,” Hager said. “She’s gone because of him.”



“This is our home. We’ve been here for too long, we’ve been here since we were kids,” Hager said.

“If I’m not wanted overseas in Iraq and I’m not wanted here, then where do I go? What am I supposed to do with my family?”

He had this message for Trump: “You have to understand you have a daughter – you have family – imagine if somebody does that to your mom. You put the terrorists on this side – the bad people – but don’t mix everyone together.”

News video:
http://www.fox7austin.com/news/232924794-video

[ivansirko]

Did she die due to old age? Was she sick? She could have died on the plane to the US. How would this be any different?

Every headline, every article, every news story is designed to piss off the public in a certain way. Every news article from the mainstream media should first be treated as #FakeNews. One of those threads on that reddit storm had over 7600 comments, a lot of which were "Trump is responsible for her death" or "He should be tried for murder"

I am willing to believe people will only read the header on reddit and not the article itself.

[Leonard D Neubache]

So these articles are designed to do either one of two things.

1) Win over fence sitters.
2) Enrage fanatics.

This story is not going to win over fence sitters so we can only assume it was designed to enrage fanatics. And again, we're going to see more tone-deaf media assaults that play to the base they've already got, aka preaching to the choir.

This incident, fake or not, does not rattle my cage.

[Gambler]

This sounds really suspicious

[HighSpeed_LowDrag]

Confirmed fake news:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...-ban-lied/

Quote:

An Iraqi-American man who made headlines earlier this week by claiming that his ailing mother had died because of President Donald Trump’s executive order on immigration lied, according to the imam of his local mosque, Detroit’s Fox 2 reported Wednesday.
The original story was that Mike Hager, a U.S. citizen born in Iraq, was visiting relatives in Iraq but was forced to abandon his mother in that country when he tried to return home.

Hager said he was returning home with his family that included his sick mom. They were returning home to the United States where his mother has lived since 1995. As they were waiting in line at the airport in Iraq on Friday, he was told that he could pass through because he was a U.S. citizen. But his family members – including his mom – weren’t allowed, despite holding green cards.

…

“I was just shocked. I had to put my mom back on the wheelchair and take her back and call the ambulance and she was very very upset. She knew right there if we send her back to the hospital she’s going to pass away – she’s not going to make it,” Hager said.

Sadly, he was right. He said Naimma, who lived in the United States since 1995, wasn’t allowed to come home and he said she died in her native country. Hager said if it weren’t for the order, his mom would still be alive today.

He blames her death on President Trump.

...

But the story was a lie, concocted to feed opposition against Trump’s executive order, which suspends most travel from terror-prone countries previously identified as problematic by the Obama administration. Fox 2 set the record straight in a new story:

The leader of a mosque in Dearborn has confirmed to FOX 2 that a man who claimed his mother died in Iraq after being barred from returning to the United States under a ban instituted by President Trump this weekend, lied to FOX 2 about when her death occurred.

Imam Husham Al-Hussainy, leader of the Karbalaa Islamic Educational Center in Dearborn, says Mike Hager’s mom did not pass away this weekend after being barred from traveling to the United States. The Imam confirms that Hager’s mother died before the ban was put in place.

…

After the story aired on FOX 2 and was posted on FOX2Detroit.com, we received many questions about the validity of Hager’s claims that his mother died waiting to be approved to come home. FOX 2 has confirmed that his mother died five days earlier.

The story is now only the latest hoax in a string of “fake news” stories through which the left and the media have attempted to undermine Trump’s November victory and his new administration.

[Gmac]

http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-ne...um=twitter

[John Michael Kane]

Another Muslim caught lying? Color me shocked that he would follow their holy book's teachings about lying to the infidels. Just like 99.97% of purported "hate crimes" against Muslims are made up. Enough with the bullshit, people are tired of it.

As Trump says: "They have to go!"

[Leonard D Neubache]

This reminds me of a fantastic way to get underneath the skin of liberals (and past several of their mental defences).

You take an anti-liberal story and turn it into an interesting "did you hear about the..." story.

This grabs their attention and they don't realise they're being played until it's too late.

In this case:

Trumpster: "Hey, did you hear about that Iraqi woman recently that was pronounced dead and, like, literally four days later came back to life?"

Obamabum: "No? How is that even possible?"

Trumpster: "Well, she was in Iraq, and scheduled for a Thursday flight to America to get some sort of medical treatment. Anyway, she dies on the Monday before the flight. But on Friday that week, and you're never going to believe this, her son miraculously revives her just in time for her to die AGAIN so he can claim Trump's visa ban cost his mother her life! Incredible, right?"

Obamabum: "FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU.......!!!!11!!11!"