[Brosemite]

(10-13-2016 11:16 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  

(10-13-2016 03:17 PM)Brosemite Wrote:  

(10-11-2016 08:46 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  

El chinito largely nailed it. First gen Chinese immigrants tend to have conservative values (i.e. anti gay, patriarchal, pro death penalty/tough on crime, anti welfare/laziness, etc). It is no surprise that a majority of them support Trump.

Their kids tend to be even more militant SJW than white peers, probably stemming from an increased need to virtue signal as a way of proving their societal worth.

Depends on which type of Asian ethnicity & which part of the US as well.

I can honestly say many Americans of Chinese descent in the Northeast and West Coast tend to have more SJW values. Midwest and Southern Vietnamese types are not about political correctness.

I did specify Chinese. I agree that Viets are less PC. They tend to be more badass/higher T as well. Chinese kids think they have a shot at being considered white (read: climbing the mainstream status ladder), so they suck up and virtue signal like no tomorrow. Viets are "lower class" and take a more "sigma"/rebel approach.

I'm talking out of my ass here, but it's my general observation.

Many American born Chinese on the coasts typically grow up with an inferiority complex & therefore resort to perpetual SJW victim mentality bullshit. They view themselves as outcasts in "mainstream western society" due to how they were raised by their parents & resent how they view themselves "in relation" to white people they've been exposed to.

What many feel to realize is that they should be proud of their values & utilize the unique advantages of their upbringing to "fit in" with the "rest of society." The happiest "ABCs" I know have that figured out. Growing up in the Southern US, I can honestly say that I had more in common with Viets, Filipinos, and Koreans due to more exposure to them. When I moved out to New York, I met some cool ABCs but didn't really gel with many possessing that passive aggressive hater mentality.

When I do gel with an ABC however, we tend to get along VERY well.

Many Viets in the US tend to be less self conscious and carry themselves in that "low class" blunt manner. Despite the rise in social class and more stable financial well-being, they haven't resorted to overbearing SJW nonsense that certain privileged people with too much time on their hands ponder consistently.

They are proud of their ethnicity but tend to not take themselves as seriously as Koreans or Chinese at the same time. Generally very easy going & feel more comfortable "within" their own skin in how they perceive themselves as a part of western society.

[ball dont lie]

Im not in the USA but most of the ABC I meet in China are hard core SJW and blue pill cucked out of their mind retards. Autistic level blue pill cucks.

On the other hand in China the middle guys I play basketball with or in my gym all think even the idea of Hillary makes the USA a giant pussy. The day she fainted the guys in my gym all asked me what are Americans thinking, even considering an old, shriveled up, bad health woman. It would a big signal that the USA is weak. That was their opinion.

[Brosemite]

(10-13-2016 11:16 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  

I did specify Chinese. I agree that Viets are less PC. They tend to be more badass/higher T as well. Chinese kids think they have a shot at being considered white (read: climbing the mainstream status ladder), so they suck up and virtue signal like no tomorrow. Viets are "lower class" and take a more "sigma"/rebel approach.

I'm talking out of my ass here, but it's my general observation.

One thing I forgot to mention is I wouldn't say many ABCs "pro-actively try to be white." They just sub-consciously take on the worst traits of Anglo Westerners being the SJW/PC narrative in response to the inferiority complexes they possess growing up in the US.

Heck look at Eddie Huang...

[Wutang]

Most of the Asian Americans I meet with my sample size being mostly Taiwanese Americans and Korean Americans, I would say the majority of them are pretty apolitical. I mentioned this in another thread but a lot of them live in a bubble and don't really care about anything that happens out of it. They don't vote, they don't hang out with people of other races (or maybe not even other Asians outside of their clique), they don't follow politics and just aren't intellectually curious in general despite being over-educated compared to the rest of the population. When I do see these SJW Asian Americans online they do seem to be mostly based in other Cali or NYC.

The most over the top online SJW has gotta to be the guy who runs Love Life of An Asian Guy. The guy had a post one day complaining about whitey "culturally appropriating" Asian food with all of their yuppie Asian fusion restaurants and a few days later was praising some black cooks down in Louisiana for creating these dishes that were a combination of Cajun and Chinese food.

[WalterBlack]

(10-15-2016 12:36 AM)Wutang Wrote:  

Most of the Asian Americans I meet with my sample size being mostly Taiwanese Americans and Korean Americans, I would say the majority of them are pretty apolitical. I mentioned this in another thread but a lot of them live in a bubble and don't really care about anything that happens out of it. They don't vote, they don't hang out with people of other races (or maybe not even other Asians outside of their clique), they don't follow politics and just aren't intellectually curious in general despite being over-educated compared to the rest of the population.

I'm in LA and I've worked alongside Chinese Americans for years, and I have no idea what their politics are. They simply don't bring it up. All they ever talk about is travel or food.

About the lack of intellectual thought - I wouldn't even begin to discuss religion or politics with the average Chinese-American, they tend to be very clueless and/or not interested in learning.

If you want to find nearest thing to an Asian-American SJW gathering, there's one going on in Los Angeles this weekend:

#IAmAsianAmerican

Hosted by unfunny Chinese-American "comedienne" Jenny Yang and Gay IRT Parvesh Cheena

Quote:

#IAmAsianAmerican — is launching a national campaign to engage Asian American millennials to become active participants in the electoral process.

On October 16, 2016, #IAAA aims to register at least 15,000 new voters with a first-ever national concert event taking place in four cities with major Asian American populations: New York, Washington DC, Chicago, and Los Angeles. The free events will combine food, live music and speakers and on-the-ground engagement in each city — including a flagship red-carpet celebrity event at Los Angeles’s historic Wiltern Theater, which will also be live-streamed to the three other participating cities and locations across the country.

What started as a simple group text, has now ballooned into a major movement with creative and community leaders coming together and throwing must go to events in cities across the US to get out the vote.

If you want to see an run down of Asian-American SJW subjects, check out this blog - Angry Asian Man

It has such gems as Korean American Parents Stand Up for Their LGBTQ Children

[Wutang]

I actually used to be into the Asian American activist scene when I was younger and Phil Yu's Angry Asian Man was a big deal in that particular scene. This was long before the term SJW got coined but my experiences with these activists gave me a pretty good glimpse into how these sort of people think; namely the victim-hood mentality and the blaming of everything around you but yourself for your own issues. Long before I heard feminists whining about "rape culture" and the patriarchy I was already hearing about "white imperialism" from people who came from families that apparently didn't mind relocating to this country to live among evil whiteys.

[WalterBlack]

Do you think these Chinese are SJWs who give a shit about Black Lives Matter?

Chinese American community holds large anti-violence rally in Center City Philadelphia

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With some carrying signs that read "Stop Armed Robberies in our Community," about 700 members of the Chinese American communities in Philadelphia, the suburbs, New Jersey, New York and Delaware rallied and marched in Center City on Saturday.

Speakers decried violence against the Chinese American community - in particular, dozens of recent armed robberies of business owners in the city. They also protested the rapper YG, who has a song and video with lyrics about scoping out homes in Chinese neighborhoods to commit burglaries. The rapper was scheduled to hold a concert Saturday night at the Theatre of Living Arts, 334 South St.

His song, "Meet the Flockers," sparked a protest in Maryland Wednesday night. A White House petition has also been created asking for a ban on the song.

Speakers at Saturday's rally - at Thomas Paine Plaza across from City Hall - included leaders in the Chinese American community here as well as others. Rally organizer Steven Zhu, president of the Greater Philadelphia Fujian Association and general secretary of the Greater Philadelphia Chinese Restaurant Association, said beforehand that the rally and march had two main purposes.

One was to protest YG.

The second was to ask police to take even low-level crimes against Chinese business owners more seriously so that such crimes don't escalate into bigger crimes - and for police to ramp up patrols around Asian-owned businesses.

City Councilman David Oh, who is Korean American, told the hundreds gathered at the plaza next to the Municipal Services Building that he has called for an Oct. 31 Council hearing on crimes of violence that target Chinese business owners, particularly restaurant owners.

He said he expects members of the FBI, the District Attorney's Office, police and other community leaders to attend "to see how our government is addressing this problem."

The Rev. Robert Shine, of Berachah Baptist Church on Limekiln Pike in East Germantown, told participants that he recognized that many crimes committed against the Asian American community have been committed by people of the African American community.

Shine, 77, who is African American, said he stood in support of his Asian American colleagues. "All of us together, in the city of Philadelphia, must stand arm-in-arm, hand-in-hand to oppose any act of violence," he said.

He condemned the "reprehensible music," the "hardcore rap music that advocates violence."

After Shine spoke, Han Pan, a spokesman for the National Council of Chinese Americans, linked arms with Shine at the podium and spoke to the crowd in Chinese about the attacks on the Chinese American community.

Afterward, Pan, 51, of Horsham, said he expected some people to protest outside YG's concert at the TLA Saturday night.

"Crime targeting one particular race is not right," he said.

Police Capt. John Ryan, of the Sixth District in Chinatown, said to the crowd: "We're here for you." He then marched with the protesters as they made their way around City Hall, down Broad, east on Locust, north on Seventh, before turning west on Arch.

As they marched, the anti-violence protesters shouted: "No more violence!," "We want safety!" and "Shame on YG!"

The Philadelphia Police Department, as it normally does at city marches, escorted the marchers through the city's streets.

The march ended at 10th and Arch Streets, in the heart of Chinatown. There, City Councilman Mark Squilla, whose First District includes Chinatown, was handed a megaphone and told the Chinese Americans in the crowd: "Everyone has the right to feel safe in their community and in their businesses."

Squilla, dressed in a white La Salle University T-shirt, blue athletic pants and white sneakers, urged business owners to install surveillance cameras for their safety. The city's Commerce Department has a program that reimburses eligible business owners with part of the costs to obtain and install security cameras.

Robberies and home invasions targeting Asian American business owners in the city are not new, but have recently gained renewed attention following a spurt of home invasion-robberies this past summer.

In July and August, Zhu said, there was a rash of home invasion-robberies of Chinese business owners. During one month, 12 families were robbed, he said.

In 2016, he said, more than 100 Chinese American families or small businesses in Philadelphia have been victims of armed robberies.

A regional task force of law-enforcement authorities has over the years met with members of the Asian American business community in Philadelphia to provide safety pointers. Just last month, police and District Attorney Seth Williams met with members of the Asian American community in Chinatown to address safety concerns.

In August, two West Philadelphia men, Anthony Campbell, now 34, and Norman Bowen, 29, were arrested and charged with multiple counts of robbery, burglary, conspiracy, and related offenses in connection with at least eight cases between May 8 and Aug. 8. In one, they are accused of assaulting a 10-year-old girl during a robbery in Logan. The pair remain in custody and face trial.

[El Chinito loco]

I'm not sure why any asians would want to live in Philadelphia, Baltimore, the bad parts of D.C., south central L.A. etc.. They are the worst shitholes imaginable and it always turns into minority on minority shitfests.

If it's not asians vs blacks then it's latinos vs blacks or all 3 minorities pitted against each other like in parts of southern CA.

Best thing to do is move out asap to civilized areas and let the savages eat each other.

[N°6]

Cantonese and Mandarin people in the West are already beginning to wonder how they'd fare in post-White societies and they are not liking what they are foreseeing.

[El Chinito loco]

(10-19-2016 01:01 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

Cantonese and Mandarin people in the West are already beginning to wonder how they'd fare in post-White societies and they are not liking what they are foreseeing.

CA is a test model for all this and it's bad for sure.

Latino orientated politics will dominate CA fairly soon in the future and it will all be kickbacks to their own corrupt elite and increased welfare to illegal gimmedats. The state will probably be the first to test run mass amnesty for illegals which will flip the state politics permanently to latino.

Lower and middle class Blacks will be pretty much be driven out of the state entirely by latino gangs like what is happening in parts of socal.

Asians will probably bunker up in exclusive 80%+ asian neighborhoods with real estate which prices out most people. However those communities can only stay in their own world for so long before the politics of the regressive left start chiseling away on those islands of prosperity too.

CA is most likely fucked in the future. The massive apocalyptic earthquake can't come fast enough.

[WalterBlack]

(10-19-2016 12:55 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

I'm not sure why any asians would want to live in Philadelphia, Baltimore, the bad parts of D.C., south central L.A. etc.. They are the worst shitholes imaginable and it always turns into minority on minority shitfests.

If it's not asians vs blacks then it's latinos vs blacks or all 3 minorities pitted against each other like in parts of southern CA.

Best thing to do is move out asap to civilized areas and let the savages eat each other.

Well some of them are pretty poor, especially SE Asians. I know an uneducated guy from India who lives in a ghetto area of south Sacramento, his neighbours are mostly Hmong and Vietnamese. He owns his own business close to many Chinese and Vietnamese businesses. He was followed home and robbed by 3 black guys outside his front door about a year ago.

Some of the Asians are fighting back:

Community vigilantes step up patrols in face of crime wave targeting Sacramento Asians

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When night falls, Chinese restaurant chef A-Shun heads out in his SUV with a box of Red Bull in tow.

A-Shun patrols various south Sacramento neighborhoods from 9 p.m. until the early hours of the morning, waiting to respond to potential crimes targeting Asians. He is part of a self-organized volunteer patrol group of at least a dozen Chinese immigrants. Their ranks include waitresses and construction workers, store owners and massage therapists.

In an interview with The Sacramento Bee last month inside a Vietnamese-Chinese restaurant on Florin Road, a dozen of the patrol members decried what they called a lackluster response to a spate of robberies by police and argued they have no choice but to take security into their own hands. Speaking in Mandarin, A-Shun and others wondered aloud whether Asians were being targeted for their perceived financial success. The volunteers only shared their first names, saying they feared retaliation from police and criminals.

“We can’t think only about ourselves. We need to think about everyone,” said A-Shun, a father of two children, explaining why he started patrolling.

They have formed a chat group on Chinese social media app WeChat that now includes 1,000 Chinese residents of Sacramento. Residents use the platform to share safety tips and report crimes in progress. Any volunteer who sees the call can choose to respond, said Wei Xin Yang, a restaurant worker who is the lead organizer of this grass-roots effort.

Members of the group declined to let a Sacramento Bee reporter accompany them on a patrol, citing safety concerns, but described some of the calls they’ve recently responded to.

Just after 1 a.m. on a recent morning, residents of a home in the 7400 block of Villajoy Way alerted the patrol to an attempted home invasion in progress – someone ramming a jeep into the garage in what appeared to be an attempt to break down the door. Within minutes, about seven volunteers arrived, horns blaring and headlights shining, but the suspects had already left.

“We want to show that we are a force,” Yang said, raising his fist. “We want to reduce the loss of our compatriots and to prevent violence.”

When Sacramento police officers arrived at the Villajoy residence, they asked the residents to file a report online to document the damage for insurance purposes, since there was no suspect description or license plate obtained, according to Yang and police.

Raising his voice, Yang denounced that attitude as cavalier.

“This is racism,” he said. “If they don’t do anything, what’s the point of filing a report?”

Others in the group agreed, saying they felt that police didn’t want to help Chinese residents because “we’re not as important.”

Officer Traci Trapani, a Sacramento Police Department spokeswoman, defended the handling of the situation, saying nothing could be done in the case given the lack of a description for either a suspect or the vehicle.

Given the lack of details, it would have been a waste of time for an officer to write a report. “Officers need to respond to other higher priority calls,” Trapani said.

In another recent incident, members of the patrols said they chased a suspect vehicle for several blocks hoping to get the license plate to report to police. The chase ended when the home invasion suspects sped through stoplights, according to Yang.

He said the volunteers didn’t want to break the law, so they stopped the pursuit.

Each day, the citizen volunteers receive about four calls for service, which so far have included suspicious people, robberies and assaults. Sometimes the requests can double, and they occur at all hours of the day. Yang calls the app a “lifeline” for Chinese immigrants who don’t speak English or understand the laws of the United States.

Volunteers said they haven’t yet witnessed any violence.

Some of the volunteers said they have concealed weapons permits and carry guns on their patrols. Others at the interview said they are applying for a permit with the Sacramento County Sheriff’s Office, citing a south Sacramento crime wave that has kept many residents away from restaurants and supermarkets after dark.

Scott, who said he holds a concealed weapons permit, patrols around his gardening supply store and the neighborhood of Power Inn and Elder Creek roads, where his parents live. A native of the Chinese southern province of Guangxi, Scott said he will use his gun “only when necessary,” such as during a physical confrontation.

“In America, everyone should have the ability to protect oneself,” said Scott, who has a 10-month-old daughter.

So far, none of the patrol members have used their weapon. The group said that they would call police first, rather than get entangled in a confrontation.

The crimes targeting Asians have followed a pattern: The victims are robbed and attacked just as they exit their vehicle in a parking lot or at home, according to police and witness accounts. Authorities have described the suspects as African American men, ages 18 to 25.

Robberies have increased sharply in the area, according to a Bee review of the city’s crime reports database. Through Sept. 16, police have taken 74 reports of robberies this year in the area, up from 40 robberies during the same period of 2015 and 32 robberies during the same period in 2014. Reports of home invasions in the area rose from six by this point in 2015 to 14 so far this year, city police data show. Police say they have arrested at least 10 people this year who targeted Asian Americans.

Police reached out to residents earlier this year, posting a notice on the social media site Nextdoor that robberies in the area were on the rise and asking residents to be vigilant.

Yang insists on calling his group a “neighborhood watch program” and emphasized that members’ intentions are to stop crime against the Asian community, rather than spark a racial conflict. “We don’t want these patrols. We’d rather sit at home and watch TV, but only if the police did their jobs,” he said.

Former Sacramento County Sheriff John McGinness called the citizen patrols dangerous.

“I understand the motivation, but responding to an emotionally charged, violent situation without the benefit of training and discipline could be an absolute recipe for disaster,” McGinness said.

But, he added, “(the patrols) could be part of what breaks the cycle. With community involvement, we are stronger together.”

While two months away from taking office, Sacramento Mayor-elect Darrell Steinberg has discussed the issue at length with community leaders. He attended a forum that drew 600 Asian residents last month.

“Armed patrols are not the answer,” he said. “The answer is for the community to work together with law enforcement and public officials to create different ways for people to safely report crimes.”

If WeChat is the preferred method of communication for the Chinese community, Steinberg doesn’t rule out the Police Department using it.

“We’ve got to come to them,” Steinberg said.

There's some Chinese living in South Central LA because USC (University of Southern California) is there. Unfortunately some students have been killed in the last few years:


Verdict for teen in beating death of USC student from China

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An 18-year-old woman was convicted Thursday in the beating death of a Chinese graduate student at the University of Southern California as he walked home after a late-night study session.

Alejandra Guerrero was the first of four people to be tried in the slaying of 24-year-old Xinran Ji during a robbery attempt in 2014. Guerrero was found guilty of first-degree murder and other charges.

Authorities said Ji was attacked with a baseball bat and wrench as he walked to his off-campus apartment after a late-night study group at USC. The electrical engineering student ran from his attackers, but they caught him a block away and continued the beating until he was on his knees.

Ji managed to stagger to his apartment, where a roommate found him dead in bed in the morning.

The killing renewed concerns about the safety of Chinese students at USC, where two other Chinese graduate students were killed in 2012.

In closing arguments, prosecutor John McKinney told the seven-woman, five-man jury that Guerrero “minimizes her own involvement” by saying she hit Ji on the hand with a wrench and lied when interviewed by police.

Guerrero - who was 16 at the time of Ji’s death - was tried as an adult. She could face up to life in prison without parole when she is scheduled to be sentenced on Nov. 28, City News Service reported.

Jonathan Del Carmen, 21, Andrew Garcia, 20, and Alberto Ochoa, 19, are awaiting trial separately in connection with Ji’s death. Prosecutors decided not to seek the death penalty against Del Carmen and Garcia. Guerrero and Ochoa can’t face capital punishment because they were minors at the time of the crime.

Authorities have said the four were driving around looking for someone to rob when they saw Ji. Surveillance cameras showed Ji being surrounded by a group of people on a dark street and then, in a subsequent video, being chased.

[El Chinito loco]

(10-19-2016 01:18 AM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

Well some of them are pretty poor, especially SE Asians. I know an uneducated guy from India who lives in a ghetto area of south Sacramento, his neighbours are mostly Hmong and Vietnamese. He owns his own business close to many Chinese and Vietnamese businesses. He was followed home and robbed by 3 black guys outside his front door about a year ago.

I partially grew up in one of those neighborhoods and I don't buy the argument that it's because people are poor. It's because people aren't aware of their options. I grew up poor as shit too and got out. It's clearly doable.

America is a big place where you can choose one of many smaller cities to live in and also run a business where you aren't fighting off people who are barely beyond the knuckle dragging and loin cloth stage of development.

They don't have to set up in the inner city or some ghetto ass suburb.

Asians like other minorities tend to cluster. It's not necessarily because those areas are the best possible option it's because they don't know what else is available and just follow each other.

The unfortunate reality is social mobility becomes less and less the longer you try and operate within the economic, social, and political constraints built in those ghetto communities.

[Mochihunter]

I'm glad to see that there are minorities willing to stand up for Trump in my city. Finding s Trump supporter in Philly is damn near impossible. I just wish I knew when the anti violence march went down. I would of joined. I see it all the time, Chinese shop owners being harassed by the black population. I can vouch for all the posters who say Philly is a shithole. I find it sad that that these people came all the way to America for a better life to only be stuck in the ghetto. It's great to finally see some minorities willing to stand up for their political beliefs. Meanwhile you have celebrity minorities spreading misinformation like this dick head.