[Blaster]

This thread is for discussion of the Alt-Tech movement. The primary goal of the movement is to develop technology and build up technological infrastructure to protect online freedom. Free speech is an obvious priority, but not necessarily the only one.

The short-term motivator is to solve the problem of SJW convergence of existing platforms, where SJW convergence either means direct control from an infected organization, or else a system or algorithm subject to abuse from SJW tactics like content flagging and reporting. Specific SJW hijinks should be recognized as a short-term problem though, and the ultimate goal is solving fundamental problems with existing technology and creating improved platforms that will be better for everyone, not merely the political right.

Last night, Vox Day had an open brainstorm* to announce Project "Big Fork" to his readers, as well as discuss the alt tech disconvergence in general. He gave us a preview of Big Fork, but asked that we not share the details publicly yet. Expect a formal announcement soon. All I can say is that Big Fork is the real deal. It's a great idea and I think it's worth your time to keep an eye on it.

The other two notable, already public platforms in development are the Brave web browser, and Gab, a twitter alternative. Gab.ai currently has a waiting list, because interest is very high and they're not yet built out to accommodate a large influx of users. I'm still on the wait list for Gab so can't review it yet.

I've been using Brave on mobile for a couple of months now. Brave opens links in background "bubbles" (replacing "tabs") which can be manipulated by dragging to different areas of the screen. This is really useful sometimes, though can result in a bit too much screen clutter at other times. I set Brave as my default browser in order to take advantage of this feature, but admit that I still use Pale Moon for most web browsing.

The desktop Brave seems smooth so far. My main issue is that my mouse scroll button doesn't seem to work on most modern sites (touching the scroll button causes it to jump all the way to the bottom). It's actually reminiscent of issues I used to have with a very old version of firefox. I have only used desktop Brave for about a day, though, so it's too soon to make a fair assessment.

* Vox's brainstorms are webinars, usually only available to subscribers, though occasionally open to anyone who wants to register (such as the last one)

[The Beast1]

There's money to be made make copy cat platforms and products that protect free speech.

This push on twitter and youtube to silence dissention really comes from advertisers who don't want their brands associated with whatever offends a group of people.

The corrolary of this is, to make a brand that openly mocks some group:

Use Deoderant Awesome and keep fatties away!
Only skinny and buff people can fit into these clothes.
Blabipedia: the encylopedia for normal people who aren't feckless wimps.
Etc and etc

Then use these products to advertise on alt tech platforms.

I have a feeling in my gut that offending the sensibiities of progressives can be a hot market up and coming market. There was a protein maker that fat shamed people as a publicity stunt in the UK and made a lot of money in the bad press.

Something along those lines would do very well.

[Foolsgo1d]

Doesn't Nu age tech suffer from two problems? The infrastructure itself and the people who manage it, both software and hardware.

Google is a prime example of this. As is the government.

How do you prevent those in government and the SJWs from infecting the alternative?

[Dark Triad Man]

(10-04-2016 09:21 AM)Blaster Wrote:  

This thread is for discussion of the Alt-Tech movement. The primary goal of the movement is to develop technology and build up technological infrastructure to protect online freedom. Free speech is an obvious priority, but not necessarily the only one.

The short-term motivator is to solve the problem of SJW convergence of existing platforms, where SJW convergence either means direct control from an infected organization, or else a system or algorithm subject to abuse from SJW tactics like content flagging and reporting. Specific SJW hijinks should be recognized as a short-term problem though, and the ultimate goal is solving fundamental problems with existing technology and creating improved platforms that will be better for everyone, not merely the political right.

Last night, Vox Day had an open brainstorm* to announce Project "Big Fork" to his readers, as well as discuss the alt tech disconvergence in general. He gave us a preview of Big Fork, but asked that we not share the details publicly yet. Expect a formal announcement soon. All I can say is that Big Fork is the real deal. It's a great idea and I think it's worth your time to keep an eye on it.

The other two notable, already public platforms in development are the Brave web browser, and Gab, a twitter alternative. Gab.ai currently has a waiting list, because interest is very high and they're not yet built out to accommodate a large influx of users. I'm still on the wait list for Gab so can't review it yet.

I've been using Brave on mobile for a couple of months now. Brave opens links in background "bubbles" (replacing "tabs") which can be manipulated by dragging to different areas of the screen. This is really useful sometimes, though can result in a bit too much screen clutter at other times. I set Brave as my default browser in order to take advantage of this feature, but admit that I still use Pale Moon for most web browsing.

The desktop Brave seems smooth so far. My main issue is that my mouse scroll button doesn't seem to work on most modern sites (touching the scroll button causes it to jump all the way to the bottom). It's actually reminiscent of issues I used to have with a very old version of firefox. I have only used desktop Brave for about a day, though, so it's too soon to make a fair assessment.

* Vox's brainstorms are webinars, usually only available to subscribers, though occasionally open to anyone who wants to register (such as the last one)

This is a far more crucial project than most realize.

The opportunities available to get in on the ground floor and be a part of building an entirely separate, robust alternative to SJW dominated platforms are huge.

This is the next step, lads, in bringing Red Pill and other breakthrough realizations into actual manifestation in the world.

Build. Build well, and win.

Gab.AI is also growing fast - Milo is there. Cernovich, Prison Planet and others. Vox Day has moved entirely to Gab and off Twitter - and importantly, has not seen a drop, but rather an increase in his site traffic.

I'm there myself: http://gab.ai/darktriadman

Get thee hence to Gab.AI and at the very least, get in line.

Regards,

Ivan

[Blaster]

From a hardware perspective, in addition to efficient design and such, it's all about being careful about funding sources. Gab and Vox's Big Fork project aren't going to be non-profits, but they're still encouraging and accepting donations.

From a software perspective, the general idea is to look at the whole picture and identify weak points, either in the business model or the fundamental design of the software itself. Twitter keeps a number of secrets, for example, that they presumably use to extract value from their product. The trending topics algorithm, for one. They can sell placement in trending tags or bury unwanted topics. Gab.ai can attack this by offering transparent algorithms that developers can program against, that will lead to better features and a better user experience. It will still be a challenge to defeat twitter and steal its users, but ultimately twitter can't be expose those algorithms (or, if they do, we win anyway because they'll be giving up their power).

Also worth noting that Gab has plans to actually build out and take responsibility for infrastructure in ways that, say, GNU social didn't. GNU social went with a fully federated model, which has its own fundamental advantages but ultimately means the user experience will be inconsistent. That makes it hard to compete with a mature Twitter.

[Germanicus]

(10-04-2016 09:45 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Doesn't Nu age tech suffer from two problems? The infrastructure itself and the people who manage it, both software and hardware.

Google is a prime example of this. As is the government.

How do you prevent those in government and the SJWs from infecting the alternative?

Simple. Such people can't or won't restrain themselves from sooner or later trying to subvert the organization to be in line with the Narrative. When they inevitably begin to ignore merit and competency in favor of the "mariginalized," when they start to enshrine promoting a leftist cause as the first priority over profit or technical excellence, when they start talking about gay/trans/women's rights or equality or shit talking whiteness or western civilization-- immediately fire and purge them from the project. No second chances, no rebuttals, no exceptions. Anyone who finds that individual's expulsion "problematic" must be thrown the fuck out too.

Do not allow infiltration and subversion and there will be no problem.

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

(10-04-2016 09:42 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

There's money to be made make copy cat platforms and products that protect free speech.

This push on twitter and youtube to silence dissention really comes from advertisers who don't want their brands associated with whatever offends a group of people.

The corrolary of this is, to make a brand that openly mocks some group:

Use Deoderant Awesome and keep fatties away!
Only skinny and buff people can fit into these clothes.
Blabipedia: the encylopedia for normal people who aren't feckless wimps.
Etc and etc

Then use these products to advertise on alt tech platforms.

I have a feeling in my gut that offending the sensibiities of progressives can be a hot market up and coming market. There was a protein maker that fat shamed people as a publicity stunt in the UK and made a lot of money in the bad press.

Something along those lines would do very well.

I saw somewhere this week that a Doctor was advertising that men who are thinking of voting for Hillary should come in to see him to see if they need Testosterone Replacement Therapy! I agree that it can be effective marketing to specifically offend the majority cuck portion of a market segment to target an underserved shitlord niche.

[Blaster]

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How do you prevent those in government and the SJWs from infecting the alternative?

The general idea is to use decentralized designs to quarantine infections and make them irrelevant rather than preventing them altogether. The principle is free speech not an alt-right safe space. This will look different in each platform I think, suffice to say that I think Big Fork has a real chance to make it work, and it has to do with the platform's fundamental design.

As for government-- that's over my head but I assume that it will involve selecting hosting and incorporation countries with the most favorable conditions.

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

I'd like to see this movement include the use of ad hoc networks, which could bypass the existing commercial network systems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_ad_hoc_network

Existing commercial based network providers are likely to be censored more and more as time goes on, but if enough people ran ad hoc network software, then people's devices could link together directly, with no central network hub that could be censored.

[DamienCasanova]

(10-04-2016 10:36 AM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  

I'd like to see this movement include the use of ad hoc networks, which could bypass the existing commercial network systems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_ad_hoc_network

Existing commercial based network providers are likely to be censored more and more as time goes on, but if enough people ran ad hoc network software, then people's devices could link together directly, with no central network hub that could be censored.

When the Egyptians had their Arab Spring and the govt stepped in and shut down the country's internet, many people setup ad-hoc networks for communication and broadcasting of the "revolution". Ad-hoc networks will be absolutely crucial if network functionality ever gets attacked nationally, or if we get a "mystery outage".

Matter of fact, I just read last night that large sections of the US internet was out coincidentally at the same time as Assange's Wikileaks BS broadcast. Possibly a test run for future censoring from the major ISPs so be aware. We all know NBC is fully converged after the rigged debates and all the DNC shilling, here's even more evidence of how bad it could be.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/201...s-presser/

Interesting Coincidence

There was a great deal of anticipatory interest overnight in a press conference held by WikiLeaks and Julian Assange. Numerous alternative media sources hinted at a potentially damaging release of information that might impact the U.S. election.

[ *NOTE* No Info. It was a complete PR stunt – A total nothing burger! ]

However, the WikiLeaks presser was schedule for 4:00am East Coast U.S. time, 10:00am in Berlin Germany. U.S. media were not covering the press release, however it was being streamed live over the internet. Coincidentally, at the same time the WikiLeaks press conference was taking place, there were widespread internet disruptions amid major U.S. corporate internet service providers:

NBC / Comcast / Xfinity outages in the major population centers on both coasts.



Amazingly at 5:13am EDT (USA) / 11:13am (Berlin) Julian Assange announced there would NOT be a specific release of anything related to Hillary Clinton at this event, and all of a sudden the outage issues cleared right up.
Check out the Outage Difference for NBC/Comcast/Xfinity:
Left 4:20 am EDT – Right 5:15am EDT

[RoastBeefCurtains4Me]

^^^^ From the comment thread at the site linked above...

"maybe that was Assange’s real goal, to show how the internet is also owned and manipulated by globalists. It worked. He got credible death threats and the internet went down. Plus it exposed Hillary’s willingness to drone/assassinate anyone who gets in her way. Very productive nothing burger IMHO"

[DamienCasanova]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-04...telligence

Yahoo Admits Secretly Hacking Customer Accounts For US Intelligence

Just days after admitting that millions of its email accounts were hacked (by Russians reportedly), the Yahoo confessional continues as Reuters reports, somewhat stunningly that, Yahoo secretly built software to search all of its customers' incoming emails for US intel officials. Yahoo's reaction to this: we are "a law abiding company."

Following claims of state-sponsored attacks of its customers' email accounts, Reuters reports, Yahoo also hacked its own customers' accounts...

Yahoo Inc last year secretly built a custom software program to search all of its customers' incoming emails for specific information provided by U.S. intelligence officials, according to people familiar with the matter.

The company complied with a classified U.S. government directive, scanning hundreds of millions of Yahoo Mail accounts at the behest of the National Security Agency or FBI, said two former employees and a third person apprised of the events.

Some surveillance experts said this represents the first case to surface of a U.S. Internet company agreeing to a spy agency's demand by searching all arriving messages, as opposed to examining stored messages or scanning a small number of accounts in real time.

According to the two former employees, Yahoo Chief Executive Marissa Mayer's decision to obey the directive roiled some senior executives and led to the June 2015 departure of Chief Information Security Officer Alex Stamos, who now holds the top security job at Facebook Inc.

"Yahoo is a law abiding company, and complies with the laws of the United States," the company said in a brief statement in response to Reuters questions about the demand. Yahoo declined any further comment.

"I've never seen that, a wiretap in real time on a 'selector,'" said Albert Gidari, a lawyer who represented phone and Internet companies on surveillance issues for 20 years before moving to Stanford University this year. A selector refers to a type of search term used to zero in on specific information.

"It would be really difficult for a provider to do that," he added.



Shit, no wonder Yahoo had all it's user accounts hacked...they built the software to do it themselves, and then probably had it stolen. There is just another piece in the mountain of evidence against using any major tech companies and their products. Get out now while we can and start creating alternatives.

[Valentine]

(10-04-2016 09:21 AM)Blaster Wrote:  

The other two notable, already public platforms in development are the Brave web browser, and Gab, a twitter alternative.

I quite like the idea of Brave, seems like a good competitor to SJW-controlled Firefox, though I won't be migrating any time soon until it gets a similar ecosystem of extensions available for it.

Gab.ai will ultimately not last because it isn't decentralised. So they may for a while allow free speech but because it is technologically possible for censorship to occur, it more than likely will.

(10-04-2016 10:24 AM)Blaster Wrote:  

Also worth noting that Gab has plans to actually build out and take responsibility for infrastructure in ways that, say, GNU social didn't. GNU social went with a fully federated model, which has its own fundamental advantages but ultimately means the user experience will be inconsistent. That makes it hard to compete with a mature Twitter.

The major difference between a centralised and a federated model is that centralisation allows censorship. Can anybody name one centralised service which hasn't ended up censoring some group of people? Even Telegram removes ISIS accounts (not condoning ISIS of course but we're not a far leap from them in some people's eyes).

I don't really get the fundamental idea behind Gab because if you truly wanted to be "free speech" then it would allow federation and open-source the entirety of it's platform. Until then how could you trust that they don't use a biased algorithm or shadow banning?

An aside on GNU Social: their technological foundation didn't make federation easy, the sites are essentially silos on their own. Newer decentralised networks such as IPFS and ZeroNet make peer discovery far easier.

--

There are some fascinating projects to develop the uncensorable decentralised web occurring right now.

Don't know what this Project Big Fork is but it would be wise to build upon existing projects that have already had thousands of hours dedicated to them.

For example:
- I2P
- Freenet
- IPFS
- ZeroNet

3000 people are hosting 0chan on ZeroNet right now and this site has been up around a year only.

It can't be DDoS'd, there are no central servers to shut down and no government can block it. This is the future of the web.

Here's an additional overview of ZeroNet:

(09-30-2016 11:58 PM)Valentine Wrote:  

Looks like we need to speed up the transition to the decentralised web.

For red pill website owners I'd recommend ZeroNet.

Pros/Cons:
+ Decentralised, P2P thus can't be censored
+ Based on Bitcoin cryptography and BitTorrent filesharing
+ Can be accessed via Google/clearnet via proxy websites e.g. https://zeronet.korso.win/Talk.ZeroNetwork.bit/ for the ZeroTalk site
+ Supports .bit domain TLDs, which is like DNS based on the blockchain and thus can't be censored. Rooshvforum.bit anyone?
+ Has the advantage over darknets like Tor .onions, I2P and Freenet by allowing users to access the websites in their normal web browser with no extra software installs
+ Works well right now for highly dynamic sites unlike IPFS

- To access .bit domains without a proxy website users need to install a separate app
- Proxy-based websites may not be crawled as readily by Google, reducing search engine traffic
- Doesn't have built-in anonymity (just like the clearnet/normal web). Have to use anonymising layer like VPNs or Tor on top of it

Examples of existing ZeroNet sites:
- ZeroTalk (decentralised Reddit)
- ZeroTorrent (decentralised Pirate Bay)
- Much more here

[Ghost Tiger]

Press release today:

Infogalactic Wrote:



Zürich, Switzerland. All around the world, thousands of users are accessing and editing the new online encyclopedia for the 21st Century, Infogalactic, which styles itself the Planetary Knowledge Core™. Conceived as a next-generation replacement for Wikipedia, the troubled online encyclopedia, Infogalactic is a dynamic fork of Wikipedia that is designed to supplant its predecessor by addressing the problems of bias, vandalism, harassment, abuse, and inaccuracy that have plagued the Wikimedia Foundation’s flagship project for years.

“Every notable public figure who has a page devoted to them knows very well what an inaccurate nightmare Wikipedia is,” said Vox Day, Lead Designer of Infogalactic, a computer game designer and bestselling philosopher. “The page about me there has had everything from my place of birth to the number of times I’ve been married wrong. And that’s not even counting the outright abuse, such as when Wikipedians replaced the entire page with a definition of a sexually-transmitted disease or with a string of obscenities.”

Infogalactic plans to solve the structural problems of a community-edited online encyclopedia through objectivity, proven game design principles, and a sophisticated series of algorithms. Currently in an operational Phase One, the Planetary Knowledge Core has a five-phase Roadmap that its founders claim will eliminate edit warring, significantly improve accuracy, neutralize vandalism and other forms of griefing, and render all forms of political bias on the part of administrators and editors irrelevant.

“The primary challenge facing any online wiki is the individual editor’s incentive to impose his perspective on everyone else,” said Renegade, the Operations Director of Infogalactic, who, as per the organization’s pro-anonymity policy is known only by his handle. “Most people who contribute to an online knowledge base do so because they want to have their say, but in the end there can be only one perspective that is enforced by the site’s administrators. Infogalactic has solved that problem by embracing true objectivity and eliminating the enforcement incentive by moving from a centralized, vertically-stacked orientation to a decentralized, horizontally-distributed model.”

Infogalactic’s anti-bias architecture will permit users to select their preferred perspective and automatically see the version of the subject page that is closest to it based on a series of algorithms utilizing three variables, Relativity, Reliability, and Notability. This means a supporter of Hillary Clinton will see a different version of the current Donald Trump page than a Donald Trump supporter will, as both users will see the version of the page that was most recently edited by editors with perspective ratings similar to his own.

“The single biggest problem with Wikipedia isn’t Jimmy Wales or its outmoded 1995 technology, but the fact that it is patrolled by 532 left-wing thought police who aggressively force their biased perspective on the rest of the world,” Vox Day, aka “Fenris” on Infogalactic, added. “This isn’t Conservapedia 2.0 and we aren’t replacing Wikipedia’s admins with their conservative equivalent, we are making the function of thought police irrelevant through technology. Our design philosophy is based on the idea that only the user has the right to define what his reality is.”

The Planetary Knowledge Core is also distinguishing itself from its predecessors by its corporate-friendly policies. Corporations, large and small, are welcome to participate on the site, advertising by page and by category is permitted, and a number of strategic partners have been established, including Gab, the popular new Twitter alternative that already has over one hundred thousand active users.

Andrew Torba, the CEO and co-founder of Gab, said: “At Gab our mission is to put people first and promote free speech for all. Part of this mission includes working with others who share our core values, specifically around promoting and protecting free speech online. This is why we are incredibly excited to work with Infogalactic. We look forward to building a strong partnership that puts people first and promotes free expression for all.”

Even prior to its public announcement, tens of thousands of people have made the switch to Infogalactic. “The support from the community has been tremendous,” said Rifleman, the Technical Director of Infogalactic. “We haven’t even launched and we’ve already signed up subscriptions to cover more than one-third of our current server-and-storage burn rate. It’s clear there is a tremendous appetite for an alternative to Wikipedia’s institutional left-wing bias.”

Infogalactic has replaced the well-known Five Pillars of Wikipedia with its own Seven Canons™, which refer to the fundamental philosophy by which the Planetary Knowledge Core intends to operate. They are explained in detail on the Seven Canons page:



While the 5-million-page Phase One Infogalactic is virtually identical to the English-language Wikipedia, in the Planetary Knowledge Core’s next phase, Infogalactic developers will introduce a number of new features to distinguish it from other online encyclopedias. These innovative features include Context and Opinion sub-pages, dynamic page updates, Autobio sub-pages for Verified editors, and an alpha version of perspective filtering.

- Main Page
- Roadmap
- Seven Canons

[Thersites]

^
Big Fork, ladies and gentlemen. First step, removing SJWs Wikipedia from defining reality with false information.

[Phoenix]

(10-04-2016 09:45 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

How do you prevent those in government and the SJWs from infecting the alternative?

You make them alternatives. Resistance always makes use of superior numbers -- the rulers are always few compared to the ruled.

I think there needs to be two components to this:
- Having multiple alternative platforms
- Interlinking them

The hyperlink just isn't enough. Long gone are the days of people using web-directories, or web-directory-like search engines. Now it's all centralized on the google smart search. Even when I search something on this website, I go back to google to do so because it's just faster.

So I think there needs to be better in-website search for all websites. (E.g. on this website, you could put a smart-search bar in the toolbar). But beyond that, in-website search should branch out to "friend websites".

As a bad example, the host blocked NNF from hyperlinking here, as the host of this website gets shit-talked by users on NNF as it's mostly comprised of banned RVF members. This prevents these almost identically themed websites from interacting. They are standalone blobs, both reliant on google to be the hub that directs new traffic to them.

There should be extensive spidering-out between websites. It's the web after all, not the hub-and-spoke. It should be possible, if you wish, to stay completely within the manosphere without ever bouncing back to googles search bar.

As a simple example, an in-website search algorithm in RVF would give priority to RVF content, but whenever for example Goodllookingloser's forum had a better result, it would return that in the results. Websites could dial in their search weighting of other websites based on the friendliness. I.e. goodlookingloser's would be at 100%, stormfront & jezebel might be at 0%, NNF might be at 20%.

I feel there should also be a way to interlink your identity between different websites in a decentralized manner. I.e. using the same private key, you authenticate as the same user for different avatars across different sites using software residing on your computer alone.

I think there's lots of room in this. Not sure how it would be monetized though. All the decentralizing stuff seems let monetizable than centralizing stuff (Google being a case in point).

[Blaster]

(10-04-2016 09:45 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

How do you prevent those in government and the SJWs from infecting the alternative?

So, specifically in this case, there are a few techniques. Some are going to be features in the software, others will be culture. For example the guidelines for editors and administrators are different.

Another plan is to have a multi-dimensional rating system for pages. Specifically, there are 3 new ratings: Relativity, Notability, and Reliability. Each page will have a score for each category. Notability is about thwarting the idiotic deletionism that has plagued wikipedia for a long time. Reliability is a way to deal with the problem of wikipedia's reality being defined by mainstream media. Relativity is the feature intended to deal with SJW infestations.

Relativity rates the bias of the page on a left-right-neutral scale.

Quote:

The Relativity scale ranges from one to nine, with one being associated with perspectives that can be characterized as of the extreme political Left. Nine is associated with perspectives that can be characterized of the extreme political Right. A five rating indicates perceived political and ideological neutrality.

While I would not have used a "left/right" axis, since there are many forms of bias, I think that is a detail that can probably be addressed later on down the line (probably after they replace the ancient WikiMedia software). In any case, what this means is that if SJWs take over a page it gets a left-wing rating and a corresponding right-wing page can be made. Neither page gets to be the "authoritative" one.


The next main plan is to use a "tri-level" content system. The general idea is that all content will be divided into "fact," "context" and "opinion." Facts will have a very high standard, while opinions will have low standards.

Quote:

Only externally verifiable facts belong on the Factual level of a page; if it is necessary for a Galaxian to explain, rationalize, or justify the presence of a purported fact on a page, then it belongs on either the Context or the Opinion levels. Galaxian's personal experiences, interpretations, or subjective opinions are welcome, but only on the appropriate level. That is not the Fact level. If there is any doubt, put it in Context.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It's clearly a long-term ambition. There will definitely be unexpected problems. A project like this (assuming it succeeds) will always see some morphing and evolution in its early stages. What I like is that it's aiming to solve specific structural and cultural problems with wikipedia (the need for so many binary decisions: whether something is notable or not, whether a source is valid or not, whether a page is "neutral POV" or not)

[Valentine]

(10-10-2016 03:32 PM)Phoenix Wrote:  

I think there needs to be two components to this:
- Having multiple alternative platforms
- Interlinking them

The hyperlink just isn't enough. Long gone are the days of people using web-directories, or web-directory-like search engines. Now it's all centralized on the google smart search. Even when I search something on this website, I go back to google to do so because it's just faster.

So I think there needs to be better in-website search for all websites. (E.g. on this website, you could put a smart-search bar in the toolbar). But beyond that, in-website search should branch out to "friend websites".

As a bad example, the host blocked NNF from hyperlinking here, as the host of this website gets shit-talked by users on NNF as it's mostly comprised of banned RVF members. This prevents these almost identically themed websites from interacting. They are standalone blobs, both reliant on google to be the hub that directs new traffic to them.

There should be extensive spidering-out between websites. It's the web after all, not the hub-and-spoke. It should be possible, if you wish, to stay completely within the manosphere without ever bouncing back to googles search bar.

As a simple example, an in-website search algorithm in RVF would give priority to RVF content, but whenever for example Goodllookingloser's forum had a better result, it would return that in the results. Websites could dial in their search weighting of other websites based on the friendliness. I.e. goodlookingloser's would be at 100%, stormfront & jezebel might be at 0%, NNF might be at 20%.

Google's monopoly on search is a huge problem. Similar to how Wikipedia biases you towards a particular worldview, so does Google (and is proven by evidence of them biasing results).

One immediate solution to this is using SearX. It's a metasearch engine, so it can compile 70+ different search engines results into one search.

I like the idea, we're already halfway there. We already have YaCY but it's a memory and RAM hog. For ZeroNet sites there's a few search engines also. All that would be missing is a WordPress plugin for add it the search bar and work on improving the relevance algorithms.

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I feel there should also be a way to interlink your identity between different websites in a decentralized manner. I.e. using the same private key, you authenticate as the same user for different avatars across different sites using software residing on your computer alone.

See OpenID for a hosted solution, closest thing to what you've suggested. Requires each site integrating OpenID however.

Keybase.io is also a way to prove that you own a specific account on each site and it's all linked to one identity.

Personally I prefer managing many accounts separately because linking together can make it more catastrophic if it were hacked and it also leads to a bigger metadata trail, but each to their own.

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I think there's lots of room in this. Not sure how it would be monetized though. All the decentralizing stuff seems let monetizable than centralizing stuff (Google being a case in point).

It actually makes monetising easier in many cases because you can allow micropayments using cryptocurrency e.g. the Decentralised Library of Alexandria (iTunes/YouTube alternative) allows easier payments for creative types and Yours (Reddit alternative) allows payments for content creators.

[Ghost Tiger]

Infogalactic update

Vox Day Wrote:

I haven't said much about Infogalactic lately, mostly because things are proceeding well. A few notes:

- Traffic has increased to the point that we needed to up our server resources by thirty percent.

- We now have 540 registered Galaxians. Not a single edit war yet.

- We reached our initial goal of 100 subscribers. Thank you, Burn Unit! Our annual goal is to reach 1,000 subscribers.

- Redirect extensions have been created for all the major browsers.

- An extension that provides a default search engine for Chrome has been developed and will be submitted to Google later this week.

- We will be making an announcement of significant interest to Alt-Tech fans later this week.

- The performance is the major issue at the moment and is our top dev priority.

If you're interested in keeping up on this sort of thing, you can read more about it at Infogalaxians later today.

As always, if you'd like to support Infogalactic, you can do so through a monthly subscription, a one-time donation, or by buying a t-shirt from CryptoFashion. We're planning to do a monthly newsletter that will go out to subscribers every month. Nothing fancy, just early updates about the dev process, our current perspective on the roadmap, and a little inside information.

Speaking of donations, this email between Jimmy Wales and a former Wikipedia donor was sent to me yesterday. I tend to doubt it will be the only exchange of its kind. And I particularly enjoyed the egregious MAGA shiv at the end.

Quote:

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:

Dear [REDACTED],

Two years ago, you donated $[REDACTED] to keep Wikipedia online for hundreds of millions of readers. We are deeply grateful for your past support, and we need your help again this year.

Please renew your donation today.

We are the small non-profit that runs one of the top websites in the world. We only have about 300 staff but serve millions of users, and have costs like any other top site: servers, power, programs, and people.

If all our past donors gave again today, our fundraiser would be over within an hour. We’re not there yet. Please help us end the fundraiser and improve Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is something special. It is like a library or a public park. It is like a temple for the mind, a place we can all go to think and learn.

To protect our independence, we'll never run ads. We are sustained by donations from our readers. Now is the time we ask.

If Wikipedia is useful to you, please take one minute to keep it online, ad-free, and growing another year.

Thanks,
Jimmy Wales
Wikipedia Founder


Dear Jimmy,

You will not be receiving any further donations from me.

Wikipedia has become social justice converged. I now use and support Infogalactic, The Planetary Knowledge Core, and I couldn't be happier about my decision. I hope you folks at Wikipedia take a moment to reflect on the consequences of allowing convergence to take place within your organization. You lost sight of your mission. You became political and you censored those who disagreed with your politics. Sad!

Please visit Infogalactic.com if you would like to see what Wikipedia should have been. Onward and upward. MAGA

Sincerely,

[REDACTED]


"... and finally, that Truth is great, and will prevail if left to herself; that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons free argument and debate; errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them:"

Thomas Jefferson
Statute for Religious Freedom
1777

Guess who is the former Wikipedia donor who sent Jimmy Wales that email and CC'd Vox Day?