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When did you take the red pill?
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When did you take the red pill?

A ROK writer recently said:

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Turning someone’s ideological orientation is almost impossible for both men and women... Rather, most of us get our general political orientation from our parents or, as the role of parents in raising children continues to shrink, from our peers or teachers. Once we enter adulthood, we are likely to be on the same political end of the spectrum that we were on when we got our first full time job.

This may have been generally true. Most Alt-Right/red pill types were born after 1985, so they were able to develop a worldview of their own instead of being continuously blue pilled. Before that, it seems like a lot of sixties students were still young and mildly rebellious when Leftist activists managed to get in charge.

Yet I am skeptical about how individuals cannot change their worldview after they hit an early age (one's first job comes before 30 so it is still early). If one manages not to get red-pilled by reality before he's 30, will he remain a beta for life? If one is a Leftist, spread-the-wealth or party-goer type, can't he turn aware of human diversity or wilful to protect his own?

We should probably consider the whole case according to a variety of more particular factors. For example,
- if one has compromised by befriending with people of various ethnicities including strongly communautarian ones,
- if one identifies with such things as "humanity" or "progress" (seen from an anti-White and anti-male Leftist perspective) rather than one's own blood and culture
- if one believes into the existence of a malevolent "far right" and sees it as important and relevant...
Each part of the general Leftist worldview should be mapped and delineated according to the relevance it has into keeping the Leftist's view from falling on the ground. But before we do that, especially since it would take some time, I would like to ask at what age you took the red pill.
Perhaps you would be blue-pilled anti-Trump male feminists had you been born 20 years earlier, or perhaps you would be a milquetoast version of today rabid SJWs.
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When did you take the red pill?

I think that it is unfair to lump together a red pill as a reality model, worldview (Weltanschauung), and a red pill as a political stance.
They may be, but must not be, the one and the same. Politics, or political ideas, are rather transient.

Why does politics change with generations, like noted by Heidegger (Das Dasein is als jeweiliges zugleich immer eine Generation.), or The Fourth Turning of Strauss-Howe....?! This is difficult question, and one which tends to put in question the traditional rationality of our discourse (or simply the Enlightenment rationality-as-progress narrative), I would say.
Maybe the point is to discover always the same existential structure (Grundstruktur)? This is something which goes against politics as true expression of ideas, and what by its very nature reduces politics to a structure of power only. Example: it would be much easier for feminism - on the idea level - still to hold the banner of 'first' feminism ( since it was more reasonable), but as feminism mutated to political entity, it has to have asserted itself again through a new fight, so now there is already the 'third' feminism, which not-so-accidentally is simultaneously a third generation feminism.
The existential dimension is uncovered through a strange fact that a feminist would rather concentrate on fast and furious tactics (fighting 'rape culture' in the West) than those dictated by reason (learning Arabic, Urdu or Chinese and moving to respective countries in order to widen the feminist revolution); in the second case, a feminist could probably not even see a victory in her own life (!).

Is the existential dimension of politics simultaneously a religious dimension...? That could perhaps explain why feminism is so popular in former puritan cultures... However, we do lack feminist missionaries going to foreign lands to spread feminism (!).
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When did you take the red pill?

I take it every day.

Don't debate me.
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When did you take the red pill?

I was around 27 when I stumbled upon the manosphere and alt-right communities. Before that I was an omega, but I was never a SJW or anything of the sort. Quite the contrary - I always had conservative leanings and a very individualistic worldview, and I always felt like there was something wrong with me that needs major improvement.

Taking the red pill was somewhat stressful, but I'm glad I did it. The only 'side-effect' is a slight guilt feeling I sometimes have for not taking it earlier in life. I probably wasted 5, maybe even 10 years of my life by being a herb for so long.
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