[Hiro]

I'm currently in a situation at work with an recently engaged woman. Recently over lunch, I suggested that we skip work for half a day and do something fun and exciting instead of our usual lunch. To my surprise, she agreed and is willing to use her paid time offmake up the time to do so.

My question is whether she is hinting to me to make a move on her because she is willing to skip a half day of work with some other guy despite the fact that she is engaged. If so, any ideas of what I can do for fun and that could advance the situation since its going to be on weekday in DC during daytime?

[speakeasy]

Dude, she's engaged. With all the single women out at night, why even go there? Would you want a guy banging your fiancee?

[duncanidaho]

(08-23-2008 05:59 AM)Hiro Wrote:  

"...My question is whether she is hinting to me to make a move on her because she is willing to skip a half day of work with some other guy despite the fact that she is engaged,.."

Yo Hiro, I can't answer this, I have no idea how long you two have known each other, and this is all complicated by her engagement and the stated fact you work with her. Speakeasy has a good point, and barring any extenuating circumstances, (like she lied about being engaged, and has a burning desire to ride your pony) going after an engaged woman may not be a worthwhile endeavor for many reasons.

[broken]

Morality, Workplace Consequences, and Logistics aside

How much kino do you have at this point?

If you don't have any, get some kino, and come back to us.

[wintergreen]

If you have to ask this question, you probably don't have the skill to pull it off without causing some problems for yourself.

Why not go out and meet one of millions of single girls out there?

[Roosh]

I'm going to give the contrarian view.

Engaged girls don't hang out with single men, taking off work to do so. Without knowing any information about this situation it's a 90% certainty she wants to bang you.

Take her to Kalorama Park in dc. First stop by a grocery store nearby and get hummus, crackers, bottle of wine, plastic cups. After the wine is finished, get closer and go for it.

If it all goes to shit at work i'm not responsible.

[Trotter]

As the saying goes "She ain't got no ring on that finger". At least not a wedding ring. But why even go there anyway.

Roosh is right, but without knowing more about the situation it's hard to tell. For all we know you guys are BFF in the office which could probably lead up to a moment of awkwardness if you try to bust a move.

[Hiro]

(08-24-2008 09:25 AM)broken Wrote:  

Morality, Workplace Consequences, and Logistics aside

How much kino do you have at this point?

If you don't have any, get some kino, and come back to us.

Broken,

To answer your question, there has been some kino, but mostly the touch on the shoulder or arm around her shoulder while walking together. From Roosh's book or blog, I did declare a thumb war at lunch one time. After a little resistance from her, she finally relented and played. There have been other times where I've caressed her hand and rubbed her arm in an up/down motion since she's very skinny. I haven't gotten any recoil from her doing any of those things. However, she rarely kinos me. It could be because of her personality (i.e. introvert, shy type) but I could be wrong.

[Roosh]

Isolation + alcohol = the moment of truth when you find out what's going on

[Hiro]

(08-24-2008 10:05 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I'm going to give the contrarian view.

Engaged girls don't hang out with single men, taking off work to do so. Without knowing any information about this situation it's a 90% certainty she wants to bang you.

Take her to Kalorama Park in dc. First stop by a grocery store nearby and get hummus, crackers, bottle of wine, plastic cups. After the wine is finished, get closer and go for it.

If it all goes to shit at work i'm not responsible.

Well, here's a more detailed explanation on the situation at hand. I've known her for almost a year but didn't really talk to her until Jan/Feb of this year after reading Roosh's book and his advice to tease girls. (Thanks Roosh, see what you got me into ) Surprisingly, we sort of got comfortable with each other at work. However, when she got engaged in June, she didn't say anything to me and it wasn't until I saw the ring on her finger. When I had asked about it, she was very vague about it. She changed the subject, etc. which I thought was strange because usually when a girl gets engaged, they can't shutup about it. Even now, if I ask her what she did over the weekend or what she has planned for the evening, she rarely if ever mentions the word fiancee/bf even though she is engaged to him.

Even though she got engaged recently, I still kept up my teasing and playfully made a bet with her regarding her adding me on facebook. Well she lost and ended owing me 9 lunches, 6 of which are still owed. That's where I gave the suggestion to take a half day off to do something for the last lunch instead of her taking me out to just lunch. Another tip from Roosh's book/blog that worked: Being Bold. :-) I figured I would ask since I didn't have anything to lose and shockingly, she did not give any resistance to the idea and said she would make up the time/or use her accrued paid time off.

Other weird things include her one time at lunch muttering under her breath that spending time with me makes her happy (which at the very least has to throw a red flag since she is engaged to another dude) and the fact that when her train came to the platform one time, she decided to skip it and ride the train I take to go home and eventually got off at a transfer point to get back on the line that takes her home.

Unfortunately, just like Speakeasy, I over analyze things as you can see from this post. To me, I think she does have an interest in me even though she is engaged and has moved in with her fiancee. However, since she is introverted/shy/quiet, I came here to get some advice to make her take the risk with me.

[Trotter]

Might be time for the kiss test.

[basil]

I think there is a quite a gulf between engagement and marriage, particularly in the minds of some women. She may have you in mind for her 'last fling as a single woman'.

[Roosh]

It's good you are trying new things but the point isn't to get hung up on the first girl you try your new moves on.

[Hiro]

(09-01-2008 06:18 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

It's good you are trying new things but the point isn't to get hung up on the first girl you try your new moves on.

That's a good point Roosh. But this will make good practice for the future at the very least.

[Trotter]

Gotta love an opportunist.

[Roosh]

But it's not the kind of practice you want. It's keeping you in the scarce mode of game where you focus only on one girl. It's hurting you more than anything.

[token]

I think that you're probably in for more drama than you bargain for if you pursue this.

IMO, she probably likes hanging out with you because you clearly find her attractive and that feeds her ego. It's very possible that over time, you might be able to convince her to mess around, buuuuut... be prepared for the possibility that she'll go crazy immediately afterwards.

Speaking from experience.

Find a hot single girl instead. Maybe it won't be as exciting because she's not "forbidden", but do you really need that kind of bullshit in your life anyway?

[evanb]

Hiro,

What ended up happening? Share the wisdom on enaged-chick game!

[ANACONDA]

i dont fuck engaged girls....i don't eat someone's else meat.

[rockdaspot]

(08-28-2008 11:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Isolation + alcohol = the moment of truth when you find out what's going on

so true

[iknowexactly]

(08-28-2008 11:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Isolation + alcohol = the moment of truth ...

You beeg genius here. In a few words. Excellent.

Also if she allows isolation plus alcohol
you're probably doing well already so I+A is a great goal in
itself.

It sounds like a great thing to invite her [any chick] to which is really leading
without requiring you to go direct. I'm imagining it weeds out secretly religious/uptight nut chicks
who don't want to enjoy life.

What would you say is your bang percentage Roosh, once you've
achieved I+A?

[pitt]

Hiro is really obvious that she wanted to fuck you. You should have invited her to go to your place and that you would cook something for both of you (or order the food if you cant cook), get the wine...the you looking good thing, touch her hand, kiss her neck..and go for the bang.

Yo you should have fucked her, no doubt..what happened?

[hoops330]

(09-10-2011 05:38 AM)rockdaspot Wrote:  

(08-28-2008 11:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Isolation + alcohol = the moment of truth when you find out what's going on

so true

Yes, that really is the best test. Just being able to get to that point is usually a good sign.

[Laner]

Reminds me of the saying,

"Rings don't plug holes"

[Basil Ransom]

Hiro actually logged in today, any updates man? Curious.

If you didn't work with her, it would be amazing to bang her and then notify the fiance (Paging Ya Boy Dave) . You'd be saving him from divorce. But the work thing complicates it. Even if she totally wanted it, if your company finds out you banged an engaged coworker, it might not look so good.

That aside, you have complete plausible deniability with any chick, until you go for a kiss. Up until then, "we're just friends."