[angryfuckface]

A lot of the behavior I see from today's women leads me to believe they are just really insecure and unconfident. And they project this into a man.

It seems like women are more shallow today more than ever. All of them dress the same, act the same, and want the same ideal man. It seems like many of them are fearful of straying from that, almost because they don't know any other way.

[nek]

For me, it's hard to tell. I've dealt with women that play the insecure card but seem to be quite confident that the dude hitting on them is well below their league. As for the same ideal man, that's never changed. There might be nuanced differences, but the same physical features are pretty much universally attractive to women. I don't think it's a cultural thing as much as a nature thing with regard to what women find attractive in a man (Side note: "Attractive" is a tricky word b/c it can mean different things based on context, esp. when women use it).

[Khan]

I'd say it's only normal for women to be insecure and unconfident, in comparison to men. That's why they are attracted to confident men in the first place.

I disagree about modern women though - if anything, they have too much self-confidence. This is a result of being raised in a female-centric culture which toddles them from early age and sanctions and glorifies every poor decision they make in life. This has gone so far that a lot of young girls today are outright narcissistic - think of all the Instagram and Facebook hoes posting selfies every day and getting likes from thirsty dudes.

[Guriko]

Yes, women are insecure and unconfident because men have become insecure and unconfident. Through my dealings with women I’ve come to view them as sponges; they absorb the ‘energies’ of whatever environment they live in and behave accordingly.

Masculine Man who will provide for his Woman and not tolerate her bullshit? Loving wife who loves the basic 3C’s: cooking, cleaning and children. She will act feminine, dress appropriate and give his husband good sex wherever and whenever he desires it.

Male who clipped his balls and eaten them and is harping about gender equality and the injustice of the ‘patriarchal system’? Bitchy ‘partner’ with kids from failed marriages that will look and find a way to fuck him over.

These are the patterns I am starting to notice, same with society at large. Women have mutated into freak half women/men because somewhere along the way the males have collectively picked up scissors and cut of their balls in one grand act of lunacy.

An act which shakes us to this very day and probably will for some time further, though I feel the tide with Trump and some other signs slowly changing. But we’ve still got a long way to go.

Men create environments. Women adapt to the environments Men have created. Women ARE NOT capable at creating environments.

Never before has the saying: ‘You reap what you sow,’ been more prophetic.

[kinjutsu]

(08-30-2016 02:26 AM)Khan Wrote:  

I'd say it's only normal for women to be insecure and unconfident, in comparison to men. That's why they are attracted to confident men in the first place.

I disagree about modern women though - if anything, they have too much self-confidence. This is a result of being raised in a female-centric culture which toddles them from early age and sanctions and glorifies every poor decision they make in life. This has gone so far that a lot of young girls today are outright narcissistic - think of all the Instagram and Facebook hoes posting selfies every day and getting likes from thirsty dudes.

It's not overconfidence...it's deep insecurity/fragile ego trying to hide itself behind the veil of confidence.
The best way to tell if someone has extremely high confidence versus fragile ego hiding behind fake confidence is how they react when you tell them something they don't like. Especially if they've invested their ego into that belief.
I.e. a "confident" woman telling everyone she's happier single etc when deep down she really misses the guy. Or telling her that guys do not care about what shoes/purse/dress she has, even thought she's spent hundreds of dollars on the item.

[The Beast1]

Yes and it's much simpler than we think.

Testosterone is our gift. It's a natural antidepressant. Women lack it and are by their very nature insecure because of it.

Our modern world is filled with estrogenic compounds. In the land of the estrogen, the ones with high test are kings.

[Brother Abdul Majeed]

Deep in the heart of every woman is the fear that men will just stand up and say "No". When that happens women won't be able to do a damn thing about it. Feminists prey on this insecurity and try to foster resentment in women. This causes them to try to tighten laws that restrict men's behaviour, to try to suppress men gathering together without them (online or in real life), to try to always be the centre of attention in men's lives.

[angryfuckface]

(08-30-2016 03:44 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  

(08-30-2016 02:26 AM)Khan Wrote:  

I'd say it's only normal for women to be insecure and unconfident, in comparison to men. That's why they are attracted to confident men in the first place.

I disagree about modern women though - if anything, they have too much self-confidence. This is a result of being raised in a female-centric culture which toddles them from early age and sanctions and glorifies every poor decision they make in life. This has gone so far that a lot of young girls today are outright narcissistic - think of all the Instagram and Facebook hoes posting selfies every day and getting likes from thirsty dudes.

It's not overconfidence...it's deep insecurity/fragile ego trying to hide itself behind the veil of confidence.
The best way to tell if someone has extremely high confidence versus fragile ego hiding behind fake confidence is how they react when you tell them something they don't like. Especially if they've invested their ego into that belief.
I.e. a "confident" woman telling everyone she's happier single etc when deep down she really misses the guy. Or telling her that guys do not care about what shoes/purse/dress she has, even thought she's spent hundreds of dollars on the item.

This is 100% true. This is what inspired me to write this post. It's a faux confidence and it's fucking rampant, from the SJW boy looking bitches to the hot sororisluts who think they're hot shit. These girls are as confident as reality tv or instagram or magazines enable them to be. Sway from that and they are incapable of functioning, it's like they short circuit.

Personally my problem is that I am a masculine man, and I work with some effeminate men (tech space). I'm a bit brash b/c it does give me an edge in business amongst men. However where is struggle is how to adapt that when first meeting women.

I can banter but sometimes I think what I do is offend women and pierce that confidence veil b/c I call a spade a spade, I don't have a lot of tact. If I do I probably overcompensate.

Either way one of my struggles is figuring out how the fuck to treat someone who is so highly faux overconfident.

(08-30-2016 04:42 AM)The Beast1 Wrote:  

Yes and it's much simpler than we think.

Testosterone is our gift. It's a natural antidepressant. Women lack it and are by their very nature insecure because of it.

Our modern world is filled with estrogenic compounds. In the land of the estrogen, the ones with high test are kings.

This is awesome, and I agree, I think I just need to learn how to harness my testosterone the right way to communicate properly with women.

[WestIndianArchie]

It's generally a safer bet for people to conform. Women are people. Women conform. Her survival largely means going with the crowd.

In the sexual competition that is life, men can conform or stand out.

There is more upside when a man successfully stands out, and more downside when he fails.

But if it is true that only 40% of our male ancestors reproduced (but 80% of women managed to pass on their own genes), then conformity is actually bad too, just not as bad.

WIA

[Irenicus]

This post may sound controversial, but I think that the vast majority (vast =/= all, you retarded journalists reading this) of women are insecure and non confident in some sort of way. Some hide that fact better than others.


Why I am saying this?


During most of their childhood and school, most of women are constantly being reminded that they are special and that they are equal (if not better than man) to men in ALL aspects.


Now, when they enter the real world, most of them become aware that they simply can't compete with men in the job market, due to various reasons (which most of us know, I presume). They realize that they are indeed special...like several billion of other souls on this planet. And, what is most crushing, they realize that they even age differently than men (a 50 year old male can still impregnate a woman, but a 50 year old woman... ).


And that, in my humble opinion, makes most of them insecure, and unconfident in themselves.

[wi30]

Almost every single girl out there is awkward and insecure around a guy they find attractive. It doesn't matter how hot they are. When you spot them getting flustered around you it's game over. Build a little comfort and close.

And they are insecure about the dumbest shit too. Nipple shape, how long ago they last shaved, etc.

[angryfuckface]

(08-30-2016 10:20 AM)wi30 Wrote:  

Almost every single girl out there is awkward and insecure around a guy they find attractive. It doesn't matter how hot they are. When you spot them getting flustered around you it's game over. Build a little comfort and close.

And they are insecure about the dumbest shit too. Nipple shape, how long ago they last shaved, etc.

Great advice!

And I totally agree, they are insecure about retarded shit like that, I've always noticed that.

[Matsufubu]

I think it's to do with the internal and external nature of our confidence and validation.

Men's is internalised. A grown man knows what he is capable of, has accomplished things, overcome things. He knows himself and with that comes confidence. Men are more capable of introspection and are more likely to use logic, reason and accountability to know themselves.

A woman's validation comes from external sources - men and other women. When it's flowing in their favour it's great, which is why they post 'woe is me' bullshit on Facebook and endless selfies everywhere - there's a horde of thirsty betas and 'supportive' friends to blast them with a torrent of ego-boosting, vacuous comments. Thing is, when your source of validation is external it means that you do not control it. You can influence it, fish for it, but not ultimately control it. With that comes insecurity. That's why historically women have made themselves into good wives, as their source of validation and security was their husband. No need for that now, but the substitute is shallow and fickle, unlike traditional marriage.

I had a spat with a 'strong, independent woman' at work who thought that just because she was wall-approaching pretty she could run her mouth. Anyway, she told me that I was shit at my job. I laughed in her face and said "The results say otherwise! Are you bitter because you've put on so much weight lately?" (she was 20lbs overweight). I know that's a WMD, and she came to me the next day indignantly telling me how she cried that night, expecting me to apologise. I just shrugged and looked at her blank faced. Hamster spinning. A few weeks later she tried to have sex with me and I refused (she was married and I knew what her game was anyway). Even though she hated me she wanted me to validate her.

Living every day knowing in the back of your mind that your use-by date is drawing ever closer and any power you had over others will be removed by Mother Nature must be weird. As a man I look forward to gaining more, as a woman you powerlessly watch yours disappear.

A woman's mind must be hell

To men: know thyself

[angryfuckface]

AWESOME STORY

Bravo

EDIT: Also would you say that it could be a valid strategy to compliment girls when you meet them? Lets say on Tinder or something?

I remember in Miami I did this to a russian girl I knew and she must have liked it. Lately though I've been trying not to compliment them at all.

I'm not really sure which to do?

[Matsufubu]

Not my area of expertise, brother - I'm married with children and have never used Tinder or whatever you're using. Some light game/teasing on Facebook, that's it. Guess it's my age...

[lazariuskriss]

As all the other said most of the women are insecure, except the few girls who had both parent figures, a good hard working dad and beautiful "husband-loving" mum.

I have read in a study that in France, 1 of 3 of women from 24/25 and older are the first users of antidepressors. I will try to find the study and i will post the translation so anyone can see. Anyway i highly doubt that there is a strong, independant, confident and secure women out here in France, maybe in the US or UK, but not here in France. A women cannot be strong, confident and independent and take at the same time antidepressors. I don't know, maybe i'm wrong.

To illustrate that i witness something really interesting a few years ago, i think it was five or six years ago, i came across an "(over)confident" feminist broad who was hitting on me. Not just any feminist, but one of the leader feminist of a feminazi association. As i was a beta and didn't really understood anything i accepted and got a date with her. Guess what, after the first date and a few glasses of wine she went on a rambling about being a feminist and she revealed something very interesting. She was a feminist because she had "problems" with her dad and that she was lonely every fucking night, which made her insecure. She tried to compensate this situation by taking various antidepressors (what a surprise), to fuck random guys and/or by passing more time with her feminist sistas to be more secure and confident but it only made her more insecure, inconfident and more angrier. She also told me as a leader that most of other feminist are the same, except the ones which really hate men and/or because they are lesbian. I was shocked because even though i was a beta at this time i knew that alcohol had the power to reveal the true side of someone to some extend. And here i was with a feminist leader saying this to me. Another gem she told me that most women hate each other and have issues and complexes with their bodies, not because men judge them but women (she actually said other bitches) judge each other. And i can today confirm it after spending 4 years (and i'm still) playing violin within a group of 6 women. We guys can be sometimes really mean between us, but women , this is on a whole new another level. I think that the (over)confident and (in)dependant women we have today are the result of feminism going rampid and completly uncontrolled[/quote].

[RichieP]

If you yourself are in fact confident, it's a non-issue.

Truly rock-solid confident people see overcompensators as like little kids trying to wear their parents clothes.

You have compassion for their insecurities. You guide them and help them, to a point. And you calmly and assertively deal with any obnoxious BS.

Of course, no one is 100% confident. The issues come when both parties are compensating for insecurities. But the more you yourself get to calm-confident-grounded-compassionate-assertive, the more these issues evaporate.

[Travesty]

(08-31-2016 04:52 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

A woman's mind must be hell

If women choose well they may honestly live a much better life than most accomplished men as far as pleasure and satisfaction. If they play their cards right they have a devoted man, family, and friends to take care of all their needs if they are well-liked without the stress of having to accomplish or provide (nor any guilt for not doing so).

Pretty much like being a well taken care of child for their entire lives except they don't have to put up with going to school anymore or doing homework, and the sole person they have to answer to is her man. If her game is good and they have a true connection it isn't really answering, it's a partnership.

Sounds like a never ending summer vacation.

Their biggest stress would be what to cook that night or what to wear on a date night. How to plan the next family holiday party or vacation for the kids.

[phluff127]

(08-30-2016 08:16 AM)angryfuckface Wrote:  

Personally my problem is that I am a masculine man. . . . I'm a bit brash b/c it does give me an edge in business amongst men. However where is struggle is how to adapt that when first meeting women.

I can banter but sometimes I think what I do is offend women and pierce that confidence veil b/c I call a spade a spade, I don't have a lot of tact. If I do I probably overcompensate.

Either way one of my struggles is figuring out how the fuck to treat someone who is so highly faux overconfident.

+1 to that! Offend or intimidate. I had a girl tell me last weekend she couldnt keep up with my witty banter and I realized I need to tone it down a notch. She basically identified an aspect of my personality that I had not recognized was hurting me with women. My problem is I become disinterested by boring conversations no matter who it is with, so I try to talk about interesting shit or at least make jokes, etc. I think they might be too much "witty banter" and I need to tone it down.

[TheOllam]

Nice Thread, but if devoid of philosophical views, it belongs in the Game section.

Nietzsche: "From the beginning, nothing has been more alien, repugnant, and hostile to woman than truth—her great art is the lie, her highest concern is mere appearance and beauty."

There, fixed it for you.

[TooFineAPoint]

(09-07-2016 02:19 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 04:52 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

A woman's mind must be hell

If women choose well they may honestly live a much better life than most accomplished men as far as pleasure and satisfaction. If they play their cards right they have a devoted man, family, and friends to take care of all their needs if they are well-liked without the stress of having to accomplish or provide (nor any guilt for not doing so).

Pretty much like being a well taken care of child for their entire lives except they don't have to put up with going to school anymore or doing homework, and the sole person they have to answer to is her man. If her game is good and they have a true connection it isn't really answering, it's a partnership.

Sounds like a never ending summer vacation.

Their biggest stress would be what to cook that night or what to wear on a date night. How to plan the next family holiday party or vacation for the kids.

Funny thing -- to us that sounds pretty great.

Not that I would do "nothing" on endless summer vacation, but that I would pursue all my hobbies and really have time to take things in.

But tell that to a younger modern gal, and she gets insanely offended. "That's all I am good for! Cooking and cleaning!! Fuck that..."

As if serving coffee or collating papers in an office is somehow much more dignified than running a household.

[StrikeBack]

All women, from the beginning of time, are insecure and not confident. That's just their nature. Understanding and accepting this nature of theirs, and learning how to manage it, is key to having them submit to you as their authority and leader. Don't try to apply a man's mindset to a woman's. Just because we hate being insecure and not confident, and feel less of a man because of it, doesn't mean that it is the same for them. A woman would feel more like a woman when she's insecure and her man guides her through it.

My fiancee, who's like a traditional woman of old times with zero feminist influence, gets very irrationally insecure at times over a variety of things: her cooking isn't good enough for me, not pleasing me well in bed, hair not long enough, jealous of other girls throwing attention my way etc. She used to be very worried and upset when she was overwhelmed with such insecure feelings. I taught her that being a little bit insecure is entirely natural and normal for her, as my helper, and I never let it go out of control. Teaching her to have a sense of humour about it is also a great tool. I never take her seriously and call her silly insecure moments "woman thinking" (inspired by some vintage movies we watched together), and now she's also using the term to refer to it. While she still feels insecure in those ways just as often, she doesn't spiral down the dark well of emotions, and simply laughs about it and moves on.

Saving the best for last, spanking is also a great tool to get a woman out of the insecure spiral. Honourable mention goes to tickling.

[Matsufubu]

(09-07-2016 02:19 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(08-31-2016 04:52 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

A woman's mind must be hell

If women choose well they may honestly live a much better life than most accomplished men as far as pleasure and satisfaction. If they play their cards right they have a devoted man, family, and friends to take care of all their needs if they are well-liked without the stress of having to accomplish or provide (nor any guilt for not doing so).

Pretty much like being a well taken care of child for their entire lives except they don't have to put up with going to school anymore or doing homework, and the sole person they have to answer to is her man. If her game is good and they have a true connection it isn't really answering, it's a partnership.

Sounds like a never ending summer vacation.

Their biggest stress would be what to cook that night or what to wear on a date night. How to plan the next family holiday party or vacation for the kids.

Agreed, being a woman who simply plays the cards she's given to get a good life is having life on easy mode. It's still being looked after though, which is ultimately external, not internal, and so by nature insecure, especially if it's partly based on owning a depreciating asset - her looks/sexuality.

If a man is insecure it may be because he lacks physical strength, an education, money, whatever. The point is he can identify the source of his insecurity and take measures to eliminate it. Women don't seem to have that ability - they are raised as children for too long, being looked after, then wonder why their life isn't the same as a Hollywood film.

[XPQ22]

I believe all women instinctively know at some level what Esther Vilar quoted in the preface to "The Manipulated Man": A woman's body is her fate. Of course they're insecure. It must suck to be a "6" and know that at the end of the day, your friend who is less educated than you, less intelligent than you, is way more cuntish than you, and is simply a worse person in virtually all respects will get 1000 times the attention from men because due to some trick of genetic fate, she was blessed with being 4 inches taller and slightly better facial features.

I'd even go so far as to say they know that they have to let men slap them, choke them, and degrade them via kinky sex, like a porn satire, just to get him to stick around in the same way that the "7" and above can, just by lying there in bed like a dead fish. It's hard to say whether they actually enjoy it, or enjoy it because of what it gains them.

It's great to be a man. I don't envy them.

[RBerkley]

(08-30-2016 05:50 AM)Brother Abdul Majeed Wrote:  

Deep in the heart of every woman is the fear that men will just stand up and say "No". When that happens women won't be able to do a damn thing about it. Feminists prey on this insecurity and try to foster resentment in women. This causes them to try to tighten laws that restrict men's behaviour, to try to suppress men gathering together without them (online or in real life), to try to always be the centre of attention in men's lives.

True indeed.

To highlight a true scenario, without men all of those clogged toilets in the business towers and overpaid government offices would be left clogged because a male janitor and plumber will not be around to fix the mess.

It is the salaries of the male plumber who have to fix the septic systems and plumbing of the female-dominated office workplaces whose tax dollars are pillaged to pay the salaries of the overpaid female government staff.

When Southern Ontario had their winter storm in 2013 which knocked out power in Toronto for around a week, it was mainly men who braved -15 degree weather to put back on the power, while many twats were using the remaining battery power in their mobile phones to post selfies on Instagram.

Point is, it appears that feminist-gynocentric dominated societies are parasitic in nature.