[Pride male]

Not neutral and not on the fence. I mean a girl who really didnt like you at all. And what was the thing you did or said that changed her mind?

[MrRemi]

Rape technique, some girls love this shit.

[TheMaleBrain]

The opposite of love is not hate - but indifference.
If a girl hates you, it can turn to "I'll fuck this guy and make him cum. I'm powerful like that".
Or that her feelings may change to attraction (kind of like "revenge sex").

I believe this to be extremely rare.
It might happen at the end of LTR.

[Ezio31]

Forget zero, she was actively repulsed by me, can't blame her, I used to be 5' 1 and fat.
Now, at 5'7 and muscular, with skills learnt from Roissy and Roosh, she has fallen in 'love' with me

[DamienCasanova]

(08-16-2016 11:41 AM)Ezio31 Wrote:  

Forget zero, she was actively repulsed by me, can't blame her, I used to be 5' 1 and fat.
Now, at 5'7 and muscular, with skills learnt from Roissy and Roosh, she has fallen in 'love' with me

Roissy & Roosh taught you how to grow 6 inches?! Amazing work guys!

[Jones]

If she has zero interest then why would she...

Actually I know a guy this has happened to.

He spent the entire relationship playing video games and eating McDonalds.

She fucked him out of sheer thirst.

She was a virgin before him.

[XPQ22]

(08-16-2016 06:47 AM)Pride male Wrote:  

Not neutral and not on the fence. I mean a girl who really didnt like you at all. And what was the thing you did or said that changed her mind?

One of the few situations I can imagine it happening is in the context of her trying to spite an ex she feels has badly wronged her.

It's usually no huge surprise when a girl dumps/gets dumped by a guy runs off and bangs another where it was no secret that she already had her eye on him.

It's more of a shock when she runs off and bangs the guy she was always complaining about. A bigger hit to the first guy's ego. Some girls are fucked-up like that.

On OKCupid there's a "match" question specifically about this: "Would you have sex with someone you hated?" I sometimes browse the questions (naturally I look at the 'sex' questions of girls I feel are good leads) and while most girls will pass on that one, I recall a sizable fraction, perhaps 10%, give it an affirmative. So add another 10 percentage points or so to account for self-censoring.

The thing I remember about some of the girls who answered in the affirmative is that they came off in their profile verbage as being pretty "high conflict", or as they would hamster-spin it, "I have a strong personality/people are intimidated by me."

[WestIndianArchie]

Yes. Fairly common occurrence.

Sure I've mentioned these before

1) Approached the same chick three times in three weeks. On appearance she hated me. But her reactions were so comical to me, that I kept pushing buttons. Self amusement I guess.

When i had her in bed, I asked her why she didn't like me.

"You looked like trouble" ( I.e. I was attracted, but didn't want to be easy)

2) A chick that was in a crowd of people. I said something outlandish to her about our future family. The crowd reacted, she blushed. I'd engage her later on the humble, and we exchanged information. Text game, ended up just going straight over to her place.

In bed, "so when did you know..??

Her - unbeknownst to me -

"I hated you. I hated seeing you. I thought you were an asshole. "

That was not my read of the situation at all. Opened my eyes. My self image was that I'm either invisible, tolerated, or loved. But never hated.

You don't even know me to hate me.

At that time, had I known that, that would have been a red light. Now that's a green light.

Me - So what changed?

Her - "I dunno. I think when you got me like that something changed." (Referring to me putting her on the spot)

Basic game lesson, change moods and you change minds.

The more subtle lesson, is that your own powers of observation don't really tell you anything until you interact. When in doubt, approach. Hard thing to do, until it's easy

WIA

[Rhyme or Reason]

(08-17-2016 10:21 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

Yes. Fairly common occurrence.

Sure I've mentioned these before

1) Approached the same chick three times in three weeks. On appearance she hated me. But her reactions were so comical to me, that I kept pushing buttons. Self amusement I guess.

When i had her in bed, I asked her why she didn't like me.

"You looked like trouble" ( I.e. I was attracted, but didn't want to be easy)

2) A chick that was in a crowd of people. I said something outlandish to her about our future family. The crowd reacted, she blushed. I'd engage her later on the humble, and we exchanged information. Text game, ended up just going straight over to her place.

In bed, "so when did you know..??

Her - unbeknownst to me -

"I hated you. I hated seeing you. I thought you were an asshole. "

That was not my read of the situation at all. Opened my eyes. My self image was that I'm either invisible, tolerated, or loved. But never hated.

You don't even know me to hate me.

At that time, had I known that, that would have been a red light. Now that's a green light.

Me - So what changed?

Her - "I dunno. I think when you got me like that something changed." (Referring to me putting her on the spot)

Basic game lesson, change moods and you change minds.

The more subtle lesson, is that your own powers of observation don't really tell you anything until you interact. When in doubt, approach. Hard thing to do, until it's easy

WIA

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.



None of these scenarios read to me like they were indifferent to you. I've banged plenty of chicks who "hated" me on paper. However I don't think I've ever turned an indifferent chick into a banged chick.

[WestIndianArchie]

(08-17-2016 02:59 PM)Red_Pillage Wrote:  

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference.



None of these scenarios read to me like they were indifferent to you. I've banged plenty of chicks who "hated" me on paper. However I don't think I've ever turned an indifferent chick into a banged chick.

That's the rub. Whatever I think of any random girls behavior, I'm not going to know until I go find out.

The chick that i thought was a bitch, ended up loving me, but hiding her behavior.

The chick that wasn't really on my radar, and I didn't think I was on hers, secretly hated me. I didn't see it coming.

From the player pov, how can you tell? Girls are purposefully deceptive.

WIA

[kaotic]

Eh I've been called asshole before and after I've banged a girl.

I had one girl who thought I hated her for the longest time.

Another one told me twice we weren't having sex anymore yet there I was balls deep in her.

Any girl I think is a bitch I throw shade right back in a playful and embarrassing way.

I'm not afraid to put a girl on the spot with a big shit eating grin on my face.

I've done this with girls that I know are attracted to me but have boyfriends. "A devil with a silver tongue and one hand in my pants" - I'll never forget her saying that.

WIA's right, you just never know, most females that claim that hated you is just an ASD rational hamster defense for something deeper. They want to save face, even thought you might be hilarious to a certain girl you were ball busting, she needs to front that she hates you still.

[ThundercockVeritas]

When I got friend zoned severely once (this is how I got into Red Pill / neomasculinity) I made a point of getting the girl to hate me by being a jerk and obnoxiously sexual. Never got her to bang me, but I did get her to hate me. I hope it made her slightly wet.

[Sidney Crosby]

(08-17-2016 07:35 PM)ThundercockVeritas Wrote:  

When I got friend zoned severely once (this is how I got into Red Pill / neomasculinity) I made a point of getting the girl to hate me by being a jerk and obnoxiously sexual. Never got her to bang me, but I did get her to hate me. I hope it made her slightly wet.

[XPQ22]

^ I can just hear that approach Rooshv did in my head.

Her: <homph nomph>

Roosh: "Hi! Did you k..."

Her: <homph> "Uh, no?" (In a slightly nasal, whiny voice around a mouthful of bar appetizer)

Roosh: "Eeeeh. Heh heh heh. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

Her (under her breath): "asshole." <hair flip hair flip hair flip>

[ThundercockVeritas]

I used some bad text game on a chick and she called me a freak and to never contact her again. So far she hasn't changed her mind!