[ThundercockVeritas]

I've had two chicks recently apologize for not writing back right away. They both contacted me online first. I haven't met either one, but one said they "really wanted to get to know me" and the other one wanted to meet me yesterday (one day after she contacted me). Is it some kind of shit test? I usually ignore these apologies, but am I actually suppose to acknowledge them? Am I suppose to wait extra long to reply when they do this? Usually these online contacts never go anywhere for me, so I'm wondering if I'm playing them wrong.

I wasn't giving off any kind of desperation vibe, so I'm not sure why they'd think I'd freak out over waiting an hour or 24 hours for a response back.

Any advice or insight into this?

[kaotic]

I'd put this in the player's log thread next time.

Why are they messaging you ?

How come you haven't gotten their numbers yet ?

Are you talking to them via some sort of dating app ?

[Repo]

I've had this happen a couple times. No need to make them wait, but don't rearrange your schedule for them. Sometimes its because shes cheating and you are guy 2, could be ex boyfriend trying to get her back, who knows. Just play it cool and dont mention it. This usually isnt a shit test, but expect her to be unreliable.

[ThundercockVeritas]

(08-11-2016 05:05 PM)kaotic Wrote:  

I'd put this in the player's log thread next time.

That's the 332 page thread right?

1. Why are they messaging you ?

Sometimes I run clown ads or passive slut stream ads on a popular website which I will not directly name. They message me either because they think I'm funny, or because of how I look. In my ads I usually hint either subtlety or more directly that I'm looking for attractive women.

2. How come you haven't gotten their numbers yet ?

I have a # from one of them. I haven't called her because she didn't respond to my last message yet asking her location, and she did not text or call me first (as I directed her to). The other chick has not responded to my last message yet, but I will ask for her number when she does. I asked both where they're located in my last message. Where they are located factors into whether I even want to call them or not.

3. Are you talking to them via some sort of dating app ?

Yes and no.

@Repo:

Ah, guy # 2. That's likely what it is. For some reason that never occurred to me. Would explain why the one girl wanted to meet right away (I couldn't) and the other didn't want to text or call me because it might be "too early" for me.

[XPQ22]

(08-11-2016 06:11 PM)ThundercockVeritas Wrote:  

Ah, guy # 2. That's likely what it is. For some reason that never occurred to me. Would explain why the one girl wanted to meet right away (I couldn't) and the other didn't want to text or call me because it might be "too early" for me.

Keep in mind that at least in Western countries, there's really no such thing as a single attractive young woman, completely manless and alone in the world. There are only "single" women.

Since it's inconceivable that a sexually active young woman would go longer than a month or so without sex, there's always somebody: an ex boyfriend, a current boyfriend, a boyfriend on his way in or on the way out, a fuckbuddy or multiple fuckbuddies, an orbiter she fancies, or this or that. There's always somebody.

The logical conclusion to draw: if you're not already banging her, 99% of the time you're going to be at least guy #2.

[ThundercockVeritas]

You're absolutely right. This tenet completely slipped my mind! This is something I learned through pain and suffering a couple of years ago.

Well, one of the chicks got back to me ... apparently there's a significant family emergency all of a sudden. It may be true, but I'm probably not going to bother responding right away or maybe not at all. She didn't even answer my location question.

The other "I want to get to know you" chick who couldn't text me first has appeared to go dark after I asked her location. Only been 1 day though, might still hear from her.

[XPQ22]

(08-11-2016 10:13 PM)ThundercockVeritas Wrote:  

You're absolutely right. This tenet completely slipped my mind! This is something I learned through pain and suffering a couple of years ago.

Well, one of the chicks got back to me ... apparently there's a significant family emergency all of a sudden. It may be true, but I'm probably not going to bother responding right away or maybe not at all. She didn't even answer my location question.

The other "I want to get to know you" chick who couldn't text me first has appeared to go dark after I asked her location. Only been 1 day though, might still hear from her.

It's strange the first few times it happens, when a girl you think likes you and is invested suddenly vanishes off the face of the Earth. After a while, however, it ceases to even raise an eyebrow...it's just women being women. Check point #9 in the "Newb FAQ":

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More fun facts about girls:
1. They'll make out with anyone (especially when drunk)
2. They'll give their number to anyone (especially when drunk)
3. They'll text anyone (especially when bored)
4. They bleed out their snatches every month and get even more illogical, acting solely on emotion.

The guys who get laid the most likely also deal with the most flakes, ghosters, tire-kickers, and general weirdos as well...especially if they're from the Internets.

So hopefully, there will be many more to come.

[Repo]

I'd message the family emergency one. Tell her no worries and youd like to exchange numbers sonce its hard to get soneones personality over text. Set up a call with her, game her for a bit but be cool, and set up a date on this call. If you meet the bang is guaranteed unless you fuck sonething up. Women who message you first should be a walk in the park. If you dont meet its a minimal time imvestmemt on your part.

[XPQ22]

(08-11-2016 10:41 PM)Repo Wrote:  

If you meet the bang is guaranteed unless you fuck sonething up. Women who message you first should be a walk in the park.

I wish it were so. Every somewhat above average guy on Bumble would have notch counts in the dozens by now.

[Repo]

I've never not banged a woman who messaged me first who I've also had a good phone convo with before. These women are DTF. Its essemtially "dont fuck up" game.

Ok maybe Bumble is different because it requires the woman to message first.

[XPQ22]

(08-11-2016 10:48 PM)Repo Wrote:  

I've never not banged a woman who messaged me first who I've also had a good phone convo with before. These women are DTF. Its essemtially "dont fuck up" game.

I'd say my record is more like 50-50. A better chance than with the average online serial dater that you message first, but not guaranteed by a longshot.

Naturally every "6+" who messages me first I'm going to try my damndest to get out. But it's completely common around here for girls who message you first to ghost before you can even pitch, and flake on the meet, same as any other girl.

It's possible that the problem is me, but I've had pretty good success with online game generally, so I don't think that's the major issue. And overall, the number of girls who open me first has been in steady decline, on OKC at least. A year ago this time, I was getting at least two or three opening messages from decent looking girls each week. Now I get more like one unsolicited message a month, and sometimes "she's" a tranny.

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Ok maybe Bumble is different because it requires the woman to message first.

I don't use Bumble because I don't think what it offers is particularly novel. It still acts as a validation engine for women, the only difference is a cute girl has to spam message "Hi" to 50 guys to secure the validation, rather than sit around. Big deal.

One of the girls I was seeing regularly recently had a roommate who was a habitual Bumbler. Girls talk...this chick was meeting up a lot but she wasn't banging 90% of these cats.

[Repo]

Did you have a good phone conversation first though? This is important to establish a connection before the date. Sure I don't call every woman I meet online and its not necessary to get a bang, but in OP's case I would recommend it.

[XPQ22]

(08-11-2016 10:59 PM)Repo Wrote:  

Did you have a good phone conversation first though? This is important to establish a connection before the date. Sure I don't call every woman I meet online and its not necessary to get a bang, but in OP's case I would recommend it.

I've experimented with the "pre-date phone call" thing before. Results: I've never banged a girl who I had a pre-date phone call with! All the girls I've hit it off with I just texted and showed up. The girls who said "It'd be cool to talk with you first" all ended up being wishy-washy, or outright flakes/timewasters.

Maybe I sound weird on the phone. It doesn't seem to help me.

But I don't think I've ever tried it with a girl who messaged me first and seemed enthusiastic about meeting...I just went for it. A lot of young women don't seem particularly enthusiastic about talking on the phone in general, but next time I have the opportunity I'll try it.

[Repo]

The point is it shouldnt be her asking to talk, it should be you. With her messaging you first, and you insisting to talk first, you are qualifying her. And you have to game enough to establish some type of connection over the phone, but try to keep it short. I sure as hell don't bang everyone I meet online, but ones who have messaged me first and I insisted for a phone call, which also went well I have never failed. The ones where the phone call didn't go well I just ghosted haha.

[ThundercockVeritas]

(08-11-2016 10:41 PM)Repo Wrote:  

I'd message the family emergency one. Tell her no worries and youd like to exchange numbers sonce its hard to get soneones personality over text. Set up a call with her, game her for a bit but be cool, and set up a date on this call. If you meet the bang is guaranteed unless you fuck sonething up. Women who message you first should be a walk in the park. If you dont meet its a minimal time imvestmemt on your part.

I was thinking along similar lines, but I've not found women who message first really guaranteed. On top of that, a lot of weird stuff happens online. Sometimes the girl is under age, a tranny, or looks nothing like her picture. The last two are horribly common.

I usually make a point to call chicks before I meet them. I'm good over the phone. I just keep the call relatively short, and make the date there. Also allows me to screen them for shit I don't want, such as a "butch" voice.

The most difficult part for me is really logistics and probably the date itself. But I won't go into all that in this thread.

[ThundercockVeritas]

Update:

I gave my # to the emergency girl. She got back to me, but seemed to think I was someone new, and not the person she talked to a couple days ago. I won't go into the details.... but both girls ghosted me, end of story.

I guess my "don't fuck game" is somehow fucked up.

[Repo]

"Don't fuck up game" only would have applied if you met them. As I stated, expect these women to be unreliable.

[ThundercockVeritas]

Point taken.