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Loss Aversion; the ‘Left’, Fat Shaming and Women
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Loss Aversion; the ‘Left’, Fat Shaming and Women

I am reading The Persuasion Reading List of Books recommended by Scott Adams whom I believe most of you know or have at least heard off.

P.S. There is a TLDR Version near the bottom of the post.

Currently I am going through Thinking Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman which, in a nutshell, describes the way human beings reason and how we try to simplify the complex world around us within our minds in order to simply survive and make sense of a mostly nonsensical reality.

It has shaken up my brain quite a bit and I recommend reading it along with the whole reading list on which I’ll drop a datasheet when I finish it myself. Frankly, it is smashing my mind piece by piece which is in the process of restructuring itself.

One of the chapters succinctly describes that humans are more sensitive to possible losses than to possible gains. MRT brain scans have shown more activity if people are confronted with losing something than winning something. Supposedly it is an evolutionary trait which has allowed our species to survive in the wilds of the past as the dangers were much more common back then than they are now.

Neuronal pathways are also much more attuned to bad news than to good ones – it only takes 2/100 of a second showing the face of a terrified person in order for our brain to pick up on it and activate the amygdale to prepare our body for the fight, flight or freeze response. Such neuronal pathways for a shown happy face do not exist (or have not been found yet).

I will cite a passage from the book which I’d like to discuss:

‘The psychologist Paul Rozin, an expert on disgust observed that a single cockroach will completely wreck the appeal of a bowl of cherries, but a cherry will do nothing at all for a bowl of cockroaches.

As he points out, the negative trumps the positive in many ways, and loss aversion is one of many manifestations of a broad negativity dominance. Other scholars, in a paper titled ‘Bad Is Stronger Than Good’, summarized the evidence as follows: Bad emotions, bad parents, and bad feedback have more impact than good ones, and bad information is processed more thoroughly than good. The self is more motivated to avoid bad self – definitions than to pursue good ones. Bad impressions and bad stereotypes are quicker to form and more resistant to disconfirmation than good ones.’

They cite John Gottman, the well – known expert in marital relations, who observed that the long – term success of a relationship depends far more on avoiding the negative than on seeking the positive. Gottman estimated that a stable relationship requires that good interactions outnumber bad interactions by at least 5 to 1. Other asymmetries in the social domain are even more striking. We all know that a friendship that may take years to develop can be ruined by a single action.’

Seconds after I’ve read these paragraphs something started clicking in my head; like threads from different parts were connecting itself.

1. Loss aversion and the ‘Left’

One of the main tactics the ‘Left’ use is shaming, publicly at that. They have and will drag the honest names of a Man or Woman who does not agree with their Narrative through public Witch Hunts graciously helped by the ‘Old Media’. Their reputation permanently stained many good people have had their lives ruined as they’ve never really fought back against such vile attacks. They never were taught how. Many tried to kowtow, begging for mercy, apologizing profusely only to get lynched in the end.

How many people nowadays with freedom, respect and tolerance beating within their hearts are looking down on the ground, afraid of voicing their opinions as they are terrified of having going through the same ordeal?

I have not come yet to the conclusion but I’ve always asked myself why the ‘Right’ has never been this effective. One of the best words which has appeared recently is ‘Cuckservative’ that elegantly describes the traitors within the ranks of the ‘Right’. But I’ve yet to see a word of such caliber that can be used for the ‘Left’ – or more words if needed. The Left has an ample supply of them ranging from all variants ending with – phobia and – isms.

Some they say that one should not step down on their level but to fight with honor. What has that accomplished? One can only fight honorably with an honorable enemy. I was shocked and stunned when I was reading Quintus’s translation of Cicero’s duties where enemies exchanged prisoners on the weight of their words only. If the prisoners themselves broke their promise towards their captors and fled home they were either sent back or executed then and there. Such things are inconceivable for me in our time. I cannot think of any man or woman who would do such a thing, willingly, voluntarily. I’d love to fight with such dignity but it simply seems ludicrous.

Why try and honor vows to fight with fists only if I know that my enemy will either bring backup or a weapon? Why lay down my life with honor against an enemy that does not acknowledge honor?

One of the main strong points of Trump is his willingness to fight. If I observed him correctly he never actively seeks a confrontation but if provoked or punched he endures the first assault, possibly minimizing the damage and returns the barrage with Goddamn artillery cannons. And it seems to work beautifully.

From the things he posts to the nicknames he uses for his opponents. He attaches shame and loss of reputation fused with their name and brand. And humankind has naturally evolved to prioritize and give more weight to the bad than to the good.

I’m all about honor, dignity, grace but against those who do not recognize these concepts only total ‘annihilation’ seems to be the best course. Return fire with carpet bombing. For they will not stop, for they are insatiable. They encroach until there is nowhere else to go and being on a constant run is also contrary to our species. Flee when necessary, yes, but not if you can put up a fight with a decent chance of winning with an escape plan ready if shit hits the fan.

2. Loss aversion and Fat Shaming

I laughed at myself when I connected the concepts of fat shaming and loss aversion until it struck a very personal chord. My father fat shamed me all the time when I was a young donut rolling down the hills chasing my next portion of greasy French fries.

With great effect. His words hurt. Like a fucking lot. And the words of my friends. I cried like a little bitch. My self-respect was down in the gutters which forced me to lose weight. I remember reading a post made by Tuthmosis about a girl he and his classmates have fat shamed until she lost weight and became pretty to beautiful. Fat shaming was, is and will be for many an impetus to lose weight, hit the gym and give their bodies some badly needed love and maintenance.

But not love with the ‘accept yourself’ crap kind. The moment the government and other institutions have put themselves above normal human relationships and have cut off basic Natural human responses, which keep certain things in check we have seen an explosion in obesity and obesity related diseases – ranging from heart attacks, to strokes, diabetes and feminism.

3. Woman and shaming

Commonly it is accepted that while men have physical strength in order to dominate over women it is the women who can tear down men simply by using words. Harsh words, poisonous words, disrespectful words. Be it at home or, even worse, in company before others.

A broken body may heal but a shattered soul almost never. We rant about the state of modern man today who walks with the eyes of a dead fish but I’ve come to pity the poor sods instead. How should they be able to walk with their chins up high, eyes with a confident gaze, chest out and steps filled with purpose when there is nobody who will teach them that? And are besieged by messages of their supposed trespassing, worthlessness, uselessness, insignificance all day? Not every male is blessed to have found the Manosphere in such or another manner.

With an honest face I say that were it not for you guys I’d have probably killed myself 2 years ago when shit hit the fan in my family and I had nothing within myself to lean or use as a shelter for the storm to pass by. No masculine philosophy, ethos, legends. Nothing! They older I get the more I realize how important these things are.

I have wept for the boys coming after me until I smacked myself real hard and said: ‘Enough with the fucking whining. What are you going to do about it? How are you going to help them? Remember the words of Benjamin Franklin: live well by doing good!’

I have been in a stable relationship with my girlfriend over seven years now. I cannot for the life of me yet fathom how better it has become since the 2 years I have first stumbled upon the MGTOW movement and through a chance link on one off their forums to Roosh’s site.

Now I am starting to understand how women work. Why the think like they think, why they act like they act and why I’ll have to sometimes forgive them for simply being women. But besides that I’ve also been given the means to deal with any kind of situation.

It seems to me like women simply cannot shut down their occasional snarky reply or jab. Men are taught to restrain their physical energy while women are given a free pass if not are even encouraged to spew out vile bile towards their partners, lovers, husbands, sons, brothers and fathers. Until I’ve found the Manosphere I’ve been taught to endure but it never stops. It’s like a wave which only gets momentum and, in the end, crushes everything before its path.

Today I smash the wave before it gets ANY momentum. The moment someone, be it my girlfriend, family, relatives, friends or new acquaintances says something disrespectful or passive aggressive towards me I politely call them out on it. Especially women love to be passive aggressive and try to tear you down with sweet and sickly words.

Bitches and bastards don’t like it because, like Mike Cernovich says, you shine light upon them and reveal their cockroach nature. I’ve been experiencing much more peace and serenity as negative people are slowly disappearing out of my life. I cannot be more thankful.

For many of you seasoned players there is nothing new in what I write. I know. The main reason on why I write is because it helps me categorize and connect all these thoughts swarming in my head. Like they are finally connecting into a unified whole which I hope will serve me to live a virtuous and worthy Men’s life for years to come. And be able to endure what Lady Luck decides to throw at me.

TLDR Version

Humans perceive bad news more than good news and it takes a lot of positive feedback to counterweight the negative feedback which alters our self – definition.

DO NOT let anyone diminish your sense of self worth if you are trying to self improve your life. No one has the right to do that! No stranger, no friend, no woman, no family. NO ONE! Because we simply attach too much weight upon their words which drag down our spirit. DO NOT ALLOW IT! Gently redirect the attack upon the perpetrator with such grace and honest energy that they will never dare to do it again. And if needed – cut them out from your life. Because the well being of YOUR LIFE depends on it.

1. Loss Aversion and the Left --> the Right will, in my mind, have to come up with an answer against the shaming tactics of the ‘Left’. Cuckservative is a good start but I believe more is needed because the ‘Left’ has a wide arrange of words ending with – phobia and – ism.

2. Loss Aversion and Fat Shaming --> shit works! I believe that the moment the government and media have made themselves transcendent above human relationships a vital part of natural discourse which helps keep bad behaviors in check has been lost.

3. Loss Aversion and Women --> do not let any woman use words to tear down your soul. I believe one must act immediately if he senses his pride and dignity to be attacked and retaliate in order for the wave not to get momentum.

Conclusion

If you have made it this far you have my thanks. I hope my ramblings are coherent enough.

As a last point I’d like to, again, stress out the usefulness of reading the Persuasion Reading List by Scott Adams. It is hard to describe how much it has helped me, but in a sentence I would say that I am slowly moving aside the curtain of the reality which is shown to me to see, and what is crucial, UNDERSTAND, the reality which truly is.

Romans 8:31 - 'What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?'

My notes.

Mike Cernovich Compilation 2015 | 2016

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Loss Aversion; the ‘Left’, Fat Shaming and Women

Ive read Slow thinking/fast thinking by Khaneman at the same time i fou d some stuff of Ken Wilber.
While Khaneman's near faith in divine mathematics sometimes annoyed me I fiunf him to be br the more rational and senseful of the two authors.
I stil make it a point to re read this book at least t twice r a year

We move between light and shadow, mutually influencing and being influenced through shades of gray...
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Loss Aversion; the ‘Left’, Fat Shaming and Women

Guiltism, shamism, factphobic, science denialist, reasonphobic, reality denialist, logic sceptic.

But none of these are funnier than Trigglypuff. I believe the key to our success is to foster the fun intelligently while dissenting from the freaks. Trump knows it. Milo lives it. Shaming while laughing is the way to win hearts & minds in the current cultural quagmire.
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Loss Aversion; the ‘Left’, Fat Shaming and Women

People don't understand the importance of fat shaming. Now we have a whole crap load of fatties that want to be accepted for who they are.

Fuck That.

They can be fat, and I can just reject.

I would rather if someone told them "Quit being a fattie, drop that bucket of slop and hit the gym" when they were young.

I will sacrifice the feelings of a small number of fatties if it meant increasing the available number of 7-8's females that learned not to be fat during their grammar school days. Bring Back Fat Shaming!

Seriously Leftys. You want to Unify Healthcare Nationally? But your followers all want to remain fatties? How about instead of using my taxes to treat all the baby boomer sickos with DiBeetus, Obesity, Lung Cancer and Liver Cirossis from preventable, diet induced ailments, we just provide healthy school lunches and real gym classes for kids. BUT NOOOOOO, Leftys want their CAKE and want to EAT Yours Too!

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Loss Aversion; the ‘Left’, Fat Shaming and Women

Quote: (07-19-2016 12:57 AM)Conscious Pirate Wrote:  

Guiltism, shamism, factphobic, science denialist, reasonphobic, reality denialist, logic sceptic.

But none of these are funnier than Trigglypuff. I believe the key to our success is to foster the fun intelligently while dissenting from the freaks. Trump knows it. Milo lives it. Shaming while laughing is the way to win hearts & minds in the current cultural quagmire.


Roosh taking a smiling selfie with his rapist accusers is also a great example of someone who's not fragile.

End of the day. Life & no one owe you jack shit.
Some babies don't even get to breath their first breath of fresh air & die during birth.

Sink or swim.

Lamb Of God - Delusion Pandemic

'And now is the moment when everything can change
You are completely responsible for your own life
And no one is coming to save you from yourself
So stop blaming your problems on any and everything else
It does not matter one tiny fucking bit how unfair you think the world is
It's only what you do, right here, right now, right this fucking instant that matters
It's your choice now.
Sink or swim.

It's imminent, the rise of your demise
Sink or swim
It's all around, the rise of your demise
Sink or swim
'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL6yRH0SNX4
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