[dain_bramage]

Hi guys.

I want to rant a bit about mental illnesses, attitudes towards it, and types of people that self diagnose themselves as being 'bipolar' 'ocd' 'ptsd'. Its an important set of issues to consider which in a comical sense may explain some of the types of SJW actions we've seen in recent years.

Here's an interesting article:

http://www.camh.ca/en/hospital/about_cam...stics.aspx


Identity politics engage!

- I was diagnosed as bipolar type 1, Generalized Anxiety, and Panic Disorder when I was 18. Its been almost a decade. I've been in the ward several times, lost many friends, and I've been given drugs that have messed me up big time. Some of the people I've worked with have said I have 'lived experience'. I do rather well now. I have been taking courses at the local university, been working out often, and I generally take care of myself. In the minutes of one of my meetings I go to I was considered a success story.

What I want to put forth is that a mental problem is a problem. Its serious. It is not something some 20 something obese purple hair skirllex haircut woman can use as a means of gaining more attention from people. You don't get PTSD from arguing with someone on Twitter. That's ridiculous. Someone that's being beaten up repeatedly or been in combat can.

Normal mood swings because of some sad events does not equate to a you being bipolar.

I think that its important that men know the risks of getting involved with mentally ill women, actually diagnosed ,that are engaging in substance abuse and not taking their medication properly or at all. I've dated one that was off her meds and bipolar, there was much banging but it ended rather quickly because she found another branch to grasp onto.

I've heard some of my mentally ill people say they hate the stigma.... but it kind of exists for a reason. Being mentally ill is not something to be wanted by anyone or aimed for. Its a wide awake nightmare and a person chooses between feeling like shit every day in one manner and feeling like shit every day in another. Its hell.

Young women and mental illness is one of the worst things to happen. Don't stick your dick in crazy. I've seen women that I knew personally make a mess out of the lives of men they feel wronged by.

There are plenty of resources out there to help the mentally ill but ultimately they have to make the steps, they have to take control of their own health but from what I've seen there are some that will never get out of their situations as they will continue to spend their day smoking, drinking coffee, and bumming for smokes and money for drugs or booze or both.

Being a man means taking control of your own health be it emotional, mental, and physical.

I've found working out to be very helpful for my mood. Its a good feeling of tired, rather than the medication hang over tired.


Do you guys have any interesting experiences with mentally ill people?


In conclusion,

Mental health issues are a real concern. I think its getting more common by the day. Its important to make sure your health is good and to avoid women that are crazy in some way until they take responsibility for their own health. That may not happen at all. I have seen some shit myself but I do NOT blame it all on society or a shadowy "patriarchy" kind of system. Your health is in your own hands. There are some things you can't change but there are means of managing them.

Cheers.

[dain_bramage]

I think its imperative that we act in a manner that will benefit our health even with the current depressing event after event. Exercise, reading, some gaming, any kind of creative activity is good. Point though is some people are so far down that they are dependent on medicine. Its hell for them. I think the best thing anyone can do for a mentally ill person once they are stable is give the man something productive to do. Easy work, hell get the man to do some tasks around the house and slowly bring him to a productive state. If that's not possible then get him to socialize as much as possible and rejoin the community.

I've met some men that have mental illnesses that are stable but they seem rather beta. Too quiet, very socialist leaning, and generally look like and sound like they would be cucked. Any suggestions on how to red pill them enough that they get more healthy in mind and body? I'm being kind of clcihe but it fits.

One of them I work with and see regularly. He's interesting to talk to if its related to computers and gaming. He's a bit political but not very much. He stinks pretty bad some days and he sweats a lot. There are medicines I think that can make sweating more intense.

Unfortunately where we are, I can't say exactly because that's too much personal information but.. .yeah. There aren't many women under the age of 30 that are present usually. Its pretty barren. This one guy only really gets out once a week and I think it would be great if he went to the local pub or tried to socailize in some way.

I think the guy needs to interact with women. In comparison to him I'm way more experienced and that's pretty sad. I've only been banging some kind of crazy or fat chicks or fat and crazy and I was beta around a girl for years until finding out she's Asperger autistic which explains why she was so bloody weird.

I would like some advice on how to bring some friends out of the darkness that can hopefully help their mental health and help them take the red pill.

[almast]

Very inspiring story. Tell me more in detail about your times in the ward. Did the police take you there or your parents? For how long were you in each time? What did they do to you? What was your daily routine?

[dain_bramage]

Thank you. My wish is that people can learn more about the shit situation of those with a mental illness. Its more common that I thought it was and its a shame that some are put on debilitating medicines to keep them quiet and complacent.


I walked in by myself the first time. Longest I have been in the ward was 2 weeks, a few days break, and then 2 more weeks in a different place where I had freedom of movement and more comfort.

Hmm. Daily routine for my old city's hospital was incredibly boring. Wake up, meds time if I had morning pills. Eat breakfast, sit around, read or watch TV. Occasionally play card games with other nuts. Then maybe go to group therapy sessions, sometimes some painting or coloring. Then Lunch, be bored as hell until supper, then do whatever such as reading in my room if I was lucky not to have to share a room with anyone else. Then night meds and wash, rinse, and repeat. If you don't have any visitors its incredibly boring. I understand why some of my fellow nut cases get antsy and very uncomfortable in there when they can't go out on a half hour or an hour long walk around the rest of the hosptial. On the larger ward across the way there was a pool table so I would play that sometimes.

For one week in my new town though I was stuck in basically what was a jail cell. There was a toilet in a barren room with just a black mat on the ground. It was a small ward. There was a small patio with a very tall fence and wall to prevent escape. There was practically nothing to do except draw or use pencil crayons or watch whatever slop was on the television. It was hell. I had annoying people around which just drove me to my limits. I don't like sharing a very limited space with overly friendly, talkative or pushy people. The last time I was in hospital was not because I did anything intended to make me sick. I was not self medicating. The DR prescribed me some anti anxiety meds plus I missed a dose of a very small pill that I accidentally dropped. I so was high off of the anxiety meds that it was difficult to remember things and know what I was taking. I started cycling between great joy and absolute sorrow every 10 minutes or so. It was horrible. Hence why it might bother me if SJWs start jumping on the mental health bandwagon. Its not an easy life. My choice is between being much more crisp cognitively but on edge and energized or being dumb down in a haze all day every day. Its been about a year since my last med change and now I can actually function rather well given the circumstances.

Being bipolar type 1 is a bitch but I have recovered rather quickly. Its in part due to my intense desire to be in comfortable surroundings away from people I do not have a blood tie or marriage tie to. I have had friends but the vast majority were other mentally ill people some of which were absolute pricks and cock blockers and one being a majorly odd SJW type.


The staff didn't really do anything to me except take blood samples, blood pressure, and give me medications. I was one time given a very powerful drug that made it impossible for me to say anything coherent or stand then due to an error on the staff's part when one hospital didn't the tell the other what medicine was given to me. There was a bad interaction and I became incredibly uncomfortable, sort of crawling in my skin feeling with my eyes rolling up and feeling very dizzy. They had to inject me with something to ease the pain, I then passed out for hours.

One of the worst parts was not having the freedom to go where I wanted to plus not having my means of communication available to me. I very much like my computer which I of course had no access to. My phone was taken too which had the phone numbers of my friends and family on it so without those numbers the public phone was useless to me. Other times I had my phone.



The last ward I was in was in 2013

I used to smoke years ago. I was on the pysch ward on level 1 observation so I didn't have the freedom to go off the ward to smoke without a trusted person to supervise me. It was basically a means of forcing patients to quit smoking. I had some of my friends take me out a few times so I could smoke. I've smoked one cigar since Christmas 2014. It was hell quitting cold turkey but I did that on my own without nurses basically forcing me to take NRTs or nothing at all.

That hospital was bloody maddening which is kind of ironic. But the last hospital I was in had board games, table tennis, a basketball court/porch and had a guitar that I could play which was nice.


Overall the experiences I've had in the hospital were suffocating, lonely, and incredibly boring. I got cabin fever quick. If you can avoid being stuck in a psych ward I suggest you do. There's also the stigma associated with mental illnesses but that's another story. I'm a bit scatterbrained now but I deal with it.

[almast]

Glad you are doing better. Are you allowed to drive or did they suspend your license?

[dain_bramage]

:-)




I've never had a full driver's license. I just have a learner's as a piece of identification. I haven't had a need for a normal license as I have been able to take the bus or train or simply walk to where I needed to go. I have done some driver training but I've done barely anything with a stick shift. Automatic is easy. I just can't have people bothering me. When I have driven a car I took it very seriously. I'm on permanent disability and going to school so I don't have the income necessary to pay for gas, insurance, and repairs. I applied for a job in my chosen field, history, but I haven't received an email or call back. I've done quite a lot of volunteer work though.

[Kapostatus13]

Some possible treatments that can aid to healing mental health issues are:

- meditation
- a excellent clean diet(raw food diet), which is rich in nutrition preferably with organic foods
- placing yourself in an environment that eliminates anxiety and negative energy as much as possible e.g. Eliminate family members or friends that cause this, relocate to a more peaceful city or town, and try to surround yourself in nature.
-revisit the root causes of mental health problems if they were created from unfortunate circumstances. Revisit those memories and lookup techniques on how to change the relationship with that painful memory.
- look into holistic healing, naturopathy, and alternative medicine. The pharmaceutical agenda safe to say is of financial greed, they would never dare to heal there fellow customers.

Some raw ideas just off the top of my head.

[hydrogonian]

(06-26-2016 01:28 PM)dain_bramage Wrote:  

- I was diagnosed as bipolar type 1, Generalized Anxiety, and Panic Disorder when I was 18. Its been almost a decade. I've been in the ward several times, lost many friends, and I've been given drugs that have messed me up big time. Some of the people I've worked with have said I have 'lived experience'. I do rather well now. I have been taking courses at the local university, been working out often, and I generally take care of myself. In the minutes of one of my meetings I go to I was considered a success story.

*I include studies at the end of this post.

I had induced anxiety that lasted for around three years. I stayed away from drugs, suffering instead.

What finally got rid of it, and I do mean got rid of more or less completely, is something that will sound like a home cure but I can assure you works pretty powerfully for me.

I take extra-virgin olive oil (EEVO), twice per day.

Once in the morning and once anywhere from mid-afternoon to before dinner.

The effect seems to last. It takes a while to diminish, insofar as it does at all, if I cut down on doses or stop taking it for a bit. This points to a more holistic effect in my mind. Though, the best effect is still when I regularly take it twice per day.

Note: when I was taking it once per day there was no noticeable effect. I had to move to twice per day before i noticed anything. Though, I can now take it once per day for a maintenance type of dose. When the overall effect gradually decreases, I move back to twice per day.

At twice per day, you might begin to feel a noticeable relaxation effect not dissimilar to a mild anti-anxiety drug.

One key component of this method is sourcing legitimate olive oil. Most olive oil in the average grocery store is adulterated.

This is the brand that I use. This size bottle is $8 on the shelf at the grocery store:

https://www.amazon.com/California-Olive-...B004ULUVU4

Fake and legit EEVOs. Cross reference with what is available on your grocery-store shelf:

Quote:

http://lifehacker.com/the-most-and-least...1460894373

The real deal:
California Olive Ranch,
Cobram Estate,
Lucini.
Kirkland Organic,
Lucero (Ascolano)

The brands that failed to meet the extra virgin olive oil standards, according to this study:
Bertolli,
Carapelli,
Colavita,
Star,
Pompeian.
Eat Grown Local also reports: Filippo Berio, Mazzola, Mezzetta, Newman's Own, Safeway, and Whole Foods in this list; the data may be from the earlier 2010 study when more brands were evaluated.

One helpful method for administering the EEVO has been to put it in a brown dropper bottle. This makes it more portable. I'll take either one dropper full, one teaspoon, or even a shot of it in a glass depending on where I am.

Take it away from food. I generally take it as soon as I wake up, and it sometimes makes me sleep for a little bit longer, and I'll take it in-between lunch and dinner.

Caveat: Fats increase drug absorption. If you are taking other drugs, taking a significant dose of olive oil while they are still in your system will likely amplify their effect and their side effects. This holds true for nicotine as well. You probably don't want this, and so I can only recommend this method after weaning yourself off of other drugs.

Studies:

Quote:

Role of Monoaminergic System in the Etiology of Olive Oil Induced Antidepressant and Anxiolytic Effects in Rats

Abstract

Olive oil is the major component of the Mediterranean diet and has rich history of nutritional and medicinal uses. In the present study, the antidepressant and anxiolytic effects and their neurochemical basis following repeated administration of extravirgin olive oil were monitored. Male albino Wistar rats were used during study. Animals of test group were given olive oil orally at the dose of 0.25 mL/kg daily for 4 weeks. Control rats received equal volume of water. Elevated-plus maze (EPM) test and forced swim test (FST) were performed for the assessment of anxiety and depression like symptoms. An increase in time spent in open arm in EPM and increased struggling time in FST following long-term administration of olive oil indicate that olive oil has anxiolytic and antidepressant properties. Neurochemical results showed that repeated administration of olive oil decreased the levels of brain 5-HT (5-hydroxytryptamine), 5-HIAA (5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid), and levels of DA (dopamine); however, levels of DA metabolite HVA (homovalinic acid) were increased. Hence, present findings suggest that olive oil has neuroprotective effects. It reduces behavioral deficits via altering 5-HT and DA metabolism. So it could be used as a therapeutic substance for the treatment of depression and anxiety.

Quote:

Effects of dietary extra-virgin olive oil on behaviour and brain biochemical parameters in ageing rats

Abstract

The aim of the present study was to verify whether extra-virgin olive oil, a dietary component naturally containing phenolic antioxidants, has the potential to protect the brain from the deleterious effects of ageing. To accomplish this goal, we used male rats fed a high-energy diet containing either maize oil, or extra-virgin olive oil with high or low phenol content (720 or 10 mg total phenols/kg oil, corresponding to a daily dose of 4 or 0·05 mg total phenols/kg body weight, respectively) from age 12 months to senescence. The measured endpoints were biochemical parameters related to oxidative stress and functional tests to evaluate motor, cognitive and emotional behaviour. Olive oil phenols did not exert major protective actions on motor and cognitive function, as we observed only a tendency to improved motor coordination on the rotarod in the old animals treated with the oil rich in phenols (40 % average increase in the time to first fall; P = 0·18). However, an interesting finding of the present study was a reduced step-through latency in the light–dark box test, found in the older animals upon treatment with the oil rich in antioxidant phenols, possibly indicating an anxiety-lowering effect. This effect was associated with decreased glutathione reductase activity and expression in the brain, a phenomenon previously associated with decreased anxiety in rodents. These results indicate a previously undetected effect of a diet containing an olive oil rich in phenols. Further studies are warranted to verify whether specific food antioxidants might also have an effect on emotional behaviour.

[dain_bramage]

Oh wow! That's great! See this is why I like this forum. Thanks Hydrogonian.

I've grown my chamomile flowers to make tea from them. It has a soothing effect which is nice. The seeds are very inexpensive and as long as you have decent soil they grow like weeds. Just have to dry out the flowers and then just pour boiling water from the kettle onto the strainer into the cup.

I've never heard of olive oil having that effect before. That's great.

[dain_bramage]

(06-28-2016 07:06 AM)Kapostatus13 Wrote:  

Some possible treatments that can aid to healing mental health issues are:

- meditation
- a excellent clean diet(raw food diet), which is rich in nutrition preferably with organic foods
- placing yourself in an environment that eliminates anxiety and negative energy as much as possible e.g. Eliminate family members or friends that cause this, relocate to a more peaceful city or town, and try to surround yourself in nature.
-revisit the root causes of mental health problems if they were created from unfortunate circumstances. Revisit those memories and lookup techniques on how to change the relationship with that painful memory.
- look into holistic healing, naturopathy, and alternative medicine. The pharmaceutical agenda safe to say is of financial greed, they would never dare to heal there fellow customers.

Some raw ideas just off the top of my head.

I've reduced it considerably by doing similar things. I still get on edge on campus, on the buses, and other areas where people are not as predictable. I am overly sensitive to stimuli, I feel awkward around people and I prefer calm people much more than a high strung or high energy person.

In comparison to where I lived during my youth I have way more privacy, and less stress. I have an entire basement to myself and a large garden and panoramic view over the area to the south.