[LostGringo]

Maybe things are looking up in the Baltics, at least in Lithuania.... http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/vilniu...09742.html They've certainly got the look down for the actor playing the mafia thug.

[MiXX]

That mayor must not want to live long....the cars he is crushing are obviously people with money, and people with money have power, and have connections to hire a mobster to beat someones his ass to a pulp.

After he crushes the benz, he goes up to the owner, tells him what he did, and then the idiot expects a handshake from the owner?

Haven't these guys ever heard of a wheel bootie? You impound the car, and fine the fuck out of the owner each day, and if he does not pay, you auction the car and keep the proceeds.

Trust me, not even the richest man wants to lose his late-model ferrari over a fucking parking fine, and towing fees.

Mixx

[K-man]

(08-02-2011 05:43 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Haven't these guys ever heard of a wheel bootie? You impound the car, and fine the fuck out of the owner each day, and if he does not pay, you auction the car and keep the proceeds.

Mixx, the article said this vehicle was purchased by the city especially for this video stunt.

But have you been to EE actually? Slovenia does not count, it is almost Italy/Austria. Czech and Poland should not count either, they are too close to the German influence.
I'm talking Romania, Serbia, Bulgaria.... Apparently, Lithuania too. People here actually vote for a mayor who tolerates this mayhem. It's not just parking but the right to sell tomatoes from a street cart, to paint your floor of a condominium a different color, to play loud music from your bar in a residential neighbourhood, and all kinds of similar shit that drives crazy the foreigners and those locals who've lived abroad.
Some say it's compensating for 40-50 years of Communism when you weren't allowed to do shit without the state's blessing, some say it's just the local people's mentality, I don't know what it is but it is definitely very different from a well-ordered boring country like Germany.
Yeah, there are rules but most people don't observe them, and the penalties are not enforced.
A possible game implication is that you may not differentiate yourself by being a rebel who does not play by the rules, because noone plays by the rules here anyway.

[Entropy4]

Russia was exactly like that K-Man. Controlled chaos. You'd see people driving on sidewalks or going the wrong way down one-way streets. Half the shit going on made absolutely no sense there, and people didn't seem to care. In fact, they seemed to secretly love it (I know I did).

[Hooligan Harry]

(07-27-2011 05:07 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  

(07-27-2011 03:44 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(07-27-2011 03:20 PM)Luckystar Wrote:  

I don't know why this is news to anyone. Eastern European, more notably Russian women, have a long standing reputation for being very cold blooded and materialistic ( a guy wearing designer gear is going to get more noticed than the good looking counterpart). Others, are looking for stability (ie. sponsorship or Oleg the meathead). Anyway you cut it, $$$ is very important to them in one form or another. I am generalizing of course...I know there are some genuine girls as well (...I've met a few).

Can't wait to hear the over-intellectualization ad nausem about the merits of EE girls...

To add to things, Luckystar, it's not even an Eastern European thing, it's a human thing. If a woman is poor, she is going for the highest return on her investments. She knows that her main (and sometimes sole) bargaining chip are her looks and these have a time stamp on them.

She can get dyck anytime she wants, why does she want to waste time on some drink buying GQ playboy?

She goes for economic stability. It doesn't matter how good Oleg can fcuk, because a bone curdling orgasm doesn't compensate for food in the stomach, clothes on the back, electricity in the home.

These are real things that one CANNOT live without. An orgasm can be self engaged with a dildo or a showerhead but cash in the bank cannot be fantasised. A hard reality.

I've seen these things in many 3rd world countries so whenever I travel, I already have my radar set on high. It is not colour specific either.

It's the same reason you have trim young Cubans banging old, fat unattractive broads. It's either that or they sit in a third world country waiting for an attractive dame available to be swept off of her feet (not bloody likely)

Different cultures have different ways of dealing with economic instability.

Let's get real here - Eastern Europe isn't the third world. Huge distinction between being poor and living in poverty. Even a good looking, poor girl in India (some do exist), does not possess the same cut throat mentality. They may prostitute themselves to survive, but not for a higher standard of living like a disproportionate amount of EE/Russian girls do. Truly impoverished people are look for 'any' rate of return, not 'supplemental' return. That Gucci belt that catches a Russian girl's eye, would be unrecognizable to that Indian girl.

I don't want to get hijack the thread with topic...All I'm saying is that not all motives of EE girls are about 'basic' needs. I think that's a fair assessment.

Does not take their culture into account and the clear definition of gender roles they have. Culture always needs to be understood.

Men provide, women fuck and have children. Its the way it has been historically since we were living in caves. Its the natural way of things and its why in most non western countries around the world older men are still banging younger women. Its not cocky and funny routines, its because older men are stable and established.

Why is this considered such a bad thing when its served us so well for so long?

All women are whores and the sooner people realise that the better. You are always paying to fuck them. In time, in money, in emotional investment, in loyalty. In some capacity you pay for it. There is an exchange of some sort at all times and a sacrifice on your part to land each notch.

With Russian and EE women, they need less of the emotional bullshit and more of the material and physical. A western woman needs more of the emotional and less of the material because she has government legislation and family courts feeding her in times of crisis. A police force which will throw you in jail at the mere mention of abuse. While in Russia, women say their men hit them because they love them.

They come from different places and their needs are different. You need to adjust to the local culture to see the sort of results you would like to

EE and Russian women are women, not girls. A girl can enjoy the luxury of a fling with GQ playboy who is going to pump and dump her when she has the luxury of safety nets. A woman has to make sure she looks after herself because there is no real safety net, and one way to do that is to land an established man who can buy her those handbags and salon visits.

The modern, liberal view of the world is not even 70 years old. Maybe its a little too soon to be criticising materialistic women from developing countries when culturally and historically it has been the norm for thousands of years.

Having experienced my fair share of western go getters who "wuv me for me" and my fair share of EE knockouts who would not stick around for long if I could not put a roof over their heads and send the kids to school, I would take the honesty of the EE whore over the "honesty" of the over emotional self entitled princess from a western country.

In saying that, you dont need money to fuck women in EE. They are still women and they still love men. They still get the tingles from being played. A little more conservative, but they are not all looking for marriage tomorrow. Anyone who has been to EE will know that getting laid there is not that hard and the only time money starts to become an issue is if you are looking for a long term relationship of some sort. When it comes to gaming chicks there, money is more important than it would be in a western country, but it is by no means a god damned deal breaker.

My ratings are based on what I see local men with, and what foreigners should be landing.

Russia and EE as a whole: local = 4 ; foreign = 5

The reason I say that is because the women, at least for my tastes, are fucking incredible. The men on the other hand are not the best looking either so the women are almost used to dating ugly men. You should be fucking 2-3 points up there, and if you are an 8 you should be banging nothing less than dime pieces IMO

Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal: local = 4 ; foreign = 3

They are good looking people so I think its pretty much even. I dont see any real advantages for foreigners in these countries, if anything perhaps a slight disadvantage at times.

The UK: Local = 1 ; foreign = 1

There are some good looking women there and they do fuck easy, but they are tough to find. I had some real crackers there, but there are not many. The women drink hard, eat hard and like it hard, although I think its because they are trying to get the men to fuck the ugly off of them.

Australia, New Zealand, South Africa: Local 2 ; Foreign = 2

I put the english speak British colonies together. Australian women are better looking than Kiwis. They are westernised though and while there are a shitload of women who are good looking competition for them is fierce. I expect that its not much different to the USA really.

Argentina, Chile: Local = 3 ; foreign = 3
Brazil, Colombia: Local = 4 ; foreign = 5

I think gringos if they have some scratch are really dating up in Brazil and Colombia. If they are on a bit of a budget, probably with a little less regularity.

Argentina and Chile it seems to be less the case. I came right in Argentina, although not as much as I would have expected to. Chile was also average. I would go back to both places, although I would avoid the capitals next time. Would have to learn to speak a little more Spanish too.

Those ratings show what a difference the strength of the economy does for dating too.

Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore: Local = 3 ; foreign = 5

Foreign men, in particular white, are going to clean up. I saw the fattest pigs with the hottest girls in Singapore. But the women look at you with a longing in their eyes, and it makes my loins sing.

Sweden, Finland, Denmark: Local = 3 ; foreign = 3

Fewer fatties, but strong economies and feminist covens. Shared spoils

[Luckystar]

Cool. So we are in agreement. Russian bitches are prostitutes.

[Hooligan Harry]

Lol.

Just because you dont understand, or wont understand, the reasons why they are the way they are does not make it bullshit. The expectation that western principle is either the best or only way is a little short sighted and being critical of a culture you cant relate to and dont understand is ignorant.

There is a reason why so many men are travelling for pussy. Maybe everyone else gets it a little more right then we do? Criticising other cultures or the women from them because they dont meet your expectations of what is is acceptable to you would not be that ironic if so many of us were not hopping on planes to fly over and try to fuck them.

Just a thought.

But hey, if the materialism of the EE women is an issue, there are tons of places you can go to where it may not be a problem. Please let me know when you find one, I have been looking for years myself.

[Luckystar]

Maybe you are right, HH. Maybe I don't or won't understand. Maybe I am being ignorant.

Or maybe that over-rationalized, romanticized image of such magnanimous and trustworthy Russian/EE girls just isn't based in reality or objectivity. That a disproportionate amount of Russian girls really are highly manipulative, cunning, and overtly material. I wouldn't respect a Russian prostitute (or 'woman' as you put it) that will fuck for a handbag anymore than an American cunt that wants to take me for a ride. Her 'difference of needs' doesn't mean shit to me...more importantly, it doesn't change the bottom line - still a cold, material cunt.

Material or not, I LOVE Russian/EE pussy as much as you do (really). The good news is...that most are very beautiful and charming. The bad news....there is a higher proportion of gold digging whores compared to other groups.

I doubt it will stop any of us from travelling to EE. Just make sure those rose colored glasses are left at home.

[Luckystar]

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[Hooligan Harry]

(08-04-2011 01:20 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

Maybe you are right, HH. Maybe I don't or won't understand. Maybe I am being ignorant.

Or maybe that over-rationalized, romanticized image of such magnanimous and trustworthy Russian/EE girls just isn't based in reality or objectivity. That a disproportionate amount of Russian girls really are highly manipulative, cunning, and overtly material. I wouldn't respect a Russian prostitute (or 'woman' as you put it) that will fuck for a handbag anymore than an American cunt that wants to take me for a ride. Her 'difference of needs' doesn't mean shit to me...more importantly, it doesn't change the bottom line - still a cold, material cunt.

Material or not, I LOVE Russian/EE pussy as much as you do (really). The good news is...that most are very beautiful and charming. The bad news....there is a higher proportion of gold digging whores compared to other groups.

I doubt it will stop any of us from travelling to EE. Just make sure those rose colored glasses are left at home.

Rose tinted glasses?

Look bro, I lived and worked there. I still travel there quite a bit and I still do some business there. My exposure to Russia in particular does not come through some arbitrary holiday.

One thing I have learned over the years is that its completely and utterly retarded to hold irrational, negative views about cultures that are different to our own. People are a product of their environment as much as anything else and while no person is perfect, almost everyone has their good qualities and bad. The same goes for all cultures of people too.

Just because you come from the sort of environment where if a woman blatantly uses her sexuality to advance herself it wont be seen in a positive way, it does not mean that because other people from other cultures take a different approach to things that they are automatically wrong either. They come from the sort of environment where using your sexuality is as natural as going for a shit.

Now the big difference here is that while you see that as a fault in them, its actually a strong point in them too. Their motivations are far different and ultimately FAR MORE RATIONAL. The alternative, the one you hold in such high regard, is highly emotional and HIGHLY IRRATIONAL.

There is a plus point on both ends. On your end, your bitch sticks around as long as you can make her vagina tingle, but she does not cost you a dime or really care that you work a shitty 40k a year job. Things like duty, loyalty, obligation, etc only run as deep as her emotional involvement will allow though. The plus point on the Russians end is that things like duty, loyalty and obligation are there as long as you put a roof over her head and buy her a new car every five years. They are pragmatic.

Now you can go off into the world and expect everyone to adhere to your idealistic view of how social interactions should work, or you can be reasonable and try to understand why the fuck the people are the way they are and look for their good points instead. It does not matter if its Russia, Colombia or Pakistan. There is going to be merit in all of them and there is a good god damned reason why their culture evolved like they did. Many which are far older than ours I might add.

Russian women are not for the two week millionaires bro and they are not for the guys who have a problem seeing them drop a few hundred bucks buying lingerie or a pair of shoes. For the guys who have money in their pocket and its not an issue, the level of companionship they provide exceeds anything an over emotional western tramp can provide. Its nice to go to dinner with a woman and talk about politics and history instead of having to listen to her talk about American Idol, her enemies at work and all the gossip about her friends and family.

And thats not all Russian women either. I know a lot of men who earned average wages that married Russian women who were happy with a husband who could give her kids, treat her with a little bit of respect and help her put food on the table too.

Gold diggers are some of the most honest women you will meet. No matter where in the world you go, all women like money. Its normal and there is nothing wrong with it. There is a reason why the gold diggers are normally the hottest women too. Its because only the alpha females can be gold diggers. The betas end up working cubicle jobs and splitting the check with you when you go for dinner.

[MiXX]

(08-04-2011 01:20 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

Or maybe that over-rationalized, romanticized image of such magnanimous and trustworthy Russian/EE girls just isn't based in reality or objectivity. That a disproportionate amount of Russian girls really are highly manipulative, cunning, and overtly material. I wouldn't respect a Russian prostitute (or 'woman' as you put it) that will fuck for a handbag anymore than an American cunt that wants to take me for a ride. Her 'difference of needs' doesn't mean shit to me...more importantly, it doesn't change the bottom line - still a cold, material cunt.

Material or not, I LOVE Russian/EE pussy as much as you do (really). The good news is...that most are very beautiful and charming. The bad news....there is a higher proportion of gold digging whores compared to other groups.

I doubt it will stop any of us from travelling to EE. Just make sure those rose
colored glasses

are left at home.

100% agreed!

This has been my EXACT opinion about Russian women.

I once saw an incredibly beautiful Russian girl about a 9 in looks ditch me for an INCREDIBLY
UGLY dude. I mean this guy was just shrek hidious. I consider myself a very good looking
guy, but I guess they are so use to dating ugly men, that a good looking guy is DLV.

He took her home that night too. I was schocked!

Mixx

[MiXX]

(07-26-2011 09:38 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

I wanted to get a thread going for everyone's opinions on how countries or cities do with the busted dudes test. If a place does well, that means ugly dudes are dating up. If it does poorly with the test then good looking dudes are dating down.

To keep it simple we can use these five ratings:

5 (guys definitely date up)
4 (guys date slightly up)
3 (equal attractiveness)
2 (guys date slightly down)
1 (guys definitely date down)

Here are my ratings...

Argentina: 3
Brazil: 4
Colombia: 3
Denmark: 1
Iceland: 3
Poland: 5
United States: 2

I have traveled to Manizales, Pereira, Armenia, Chinchina, Santa Rosa de Cabal, and about a dozen more off the beaten path towns in Caldas and Risaralda.

I have to modify Colombia...

I now give Colombia a 5 - Busted dudes definitely date up!! Hands down, I have never seen so many scrawny, fat, hairy, old dudes date so many juicy, model-like, pretty girls in my life.

These guys DO NOT WORRY AT ALL about their looks, yet I see many of them have several GF's that are incredibly fine!!

It pisses me off to be honest with you. In particular, I saw one guy that looked like one of those Aztec Indians from Mel Gibson's "Apocalypto" making out at a pool with a girl that could make the cover of Maxim Magazine!! This was extremely common to see! Ugly dudes with pretty girls! It seemed that the uglier, the better! One guy even looked like a pregnant reptilian lizard with gaps between his teeth, and a busch of hair on his chest that looked like an old womans vagina - his girl was FINE!!! and she was all over him like he was Vin Diesel...

So, Colombia (especially the areas just outside Medellin, Caldas and Risaralda) now gets a 5 - BUSTED DUDES's PARADISE!!

Being good looking works against you!!! I had many girls tell me "Nino lindo, nino perro", and that they do not want to date good looking guys because they are all dogs! WTF???


MIxx

[Vacancier Permanent]

I don't know how I come I missed that post but it's spot on to the T. summarises perfectly also my experience with russian women. Mind you have I not been to mother Russia yet but I've known and been around a lot of them Ruskies. One of my uncles even married one and I see it how it goes with the Ruskies. Exactly the way HHarry wrote.

(08-04-2011 03:47 AM)Hooligan Harry Wrote:  

(08-04-2011 01:20 AM)Luckystar Wrote:  

Maybe you are right, HH. Maybe I don't or won't understand. Maybe I am being ignorant.

Or maybe that over-rationalized, romanticized image of such magnanimous and trustworthy Russian/EE girls just isn't based in reality or objectivity. That a disproportionate amount of Russian girls really are highly manipulative, cunning, and overtly material. I wouldn't respect a Russian prostitute (or 'woman' as you put it) that will fuck for a handbag anymore than an American cunt that wants to take me for a ride. Her 'difference of needs' doesn't mean shit to me...more importantly, it doesn't change the bottom line - still a cold, material cunt.

Material or not, I LOVE Russian/EE pussy as much as you do (really). The good news is...that most are very beautiful and charming. The bad news....there is a higher proportion of gold digging whores compared to other groups.

I doubt it will stop any of us from travelling to EE. Just make sure those rose colored glasses are left at home.

Rose tinted glasses?

Look bro, I lived and worked there. I still travel there quite a bit and I still do some business there. My exposure to Russia in particular does not come through some arbitrary holiday.

One thing I have learned over the years is that its completely and utterly retarded to hold irrational, negative views about cultures that are different to our own. People are a product of their environment as much as anything else and while no person is perfect, almost everyone has their good qualities and bad. The same goes for all cultures of people too.

Just because you come from the sort of environment where if a woman blatantly uses her sexuality to advance herself it wont be seen in a positive way, it does not mean that because other people from other cultures take a different approach to things that they are automatically wrong either. They come from the sort of environment where using your sexuality is as natural as going for a shit.

Now the big difference here is that while you see that as a fault in them, its actually a strong point in them too. Their motivations are far different and ultimately FAR MORE RATIONAL. The alternative, the one you hold in such high regard, is highly emotional and HIGHLY IRRATIONAL.

There is a plus point on both ends. On your end, your bitch sticks around as long as you can make her vagina tingle, but she does not cost you a dime or really care that you work a shitty 40k a year job. Things like duty, loyalty, obligation, etc only run as deep as her emotional involvement will allow though. The plus point on the Russians end is that things like duty, loyalty and obligation are there as long as you put a roof over her head and buy her a new car every five years. They are pragmatic.

Now you can go off into the world and expect everyone to adhere to your idealistic view of how social interactions should work, or you can be reasonable and try to understand why the fuck the people are the way they are and look for their good points instead. It does not matter if its Russia, Colombia or Pakistan. There is going to be merit in all of them and there is a good god damned reason why their culture evolved like they did. Many which are far older than ours I might add.

Russian women are not for the two week millionaires bro and they are not for the guys who have a problem seeing them drop a few hundred bucks buying lingerie or a pair of shoes. For the guys who have money in their pocket and its not an issue, the level of companionship they provide exceeds anything an over emotional western tramp can provide. Its nice to go to dinner with a woman and talk about politics and history instead of having to listen to her talk about American Idol, her enemies at work and all the gossip about her friends and family.

And thats not all Russian women either. I know a lot of men who earned average wages that married Russian women who were happy with a husband who could give her kids, treat her with a little bit of respect and help her put food on the table too.

Gold diggers are some of the most honest women you will meet. No matter where in the world you go, all women like money. Its normal and there is nothing wrong with it. There is a reason why the gold diggers are normally the hottest women too. Its because only the alpha females can be gold diggers. The betas end up working cubicle jobs and splitting the check with you when you go for dinner.

[Vacancier Permanent]

Mixx,
As usual, solid info on Colombia. Damn, I've been meaning to go to Colombia for a long time but each time I want to go, something comes up. I gotta get my ass there asap and when I do, I'll make sure to contact you compadre for some local intell/contacts.

Now these ugly guys you see with fine girls, are these locals/narcos or rich guys? Or gringos?

[MiXX]

(10-20-2011 07:07 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

Now these ugly guys you see with fine girls, are these locals/narcos or rich guys? Or gringos?

All Colombian guys, and from the looks of it - NONE WERE NARCOS, they looked like complete idiots to have the smarts and slickness to be a narco! Not to mention they all dressed with VERY CHEAP LOOKING CLOTHES!!

NONE WERE GRINGOS, Alll Colombians or hispanic dudes.

Mixx

[solo]

I think we should try to break down this a bit more.

Sweden - on the whole I have to say it's probably a 2. BUT, if you have strong game, looks and/or money it can be a 4 (at least). Sweden is a winner-takes-it-all environment. The average backpacker traveller won't have so many chances, but guys reading this forum definately will. Some second tier cities:
Linköping - 2
Norrköping - 4

[Greek kamaki]

In countries like Poland,CR,Ukraine the dating down of girls is ridiculous.Especially polish girls overdo it.It comes from an attempt to exercise control on the inferior looking male and from a lack of self esteem.
In the case of Ukrainian girls it is usually due to financial reasons while polish women in many cases date men who are poor,old and ugly.In case of Czech women they trend to date down from cultural reasons if they find a quality in the guy which they appreciate (artistic etc).

Generally the dating down of girls in these societies which has also to do with communism era egalitarian status(everyone was considered the same despite of appearance) has led to a remarkable increase of average of beauty in these countries since pretty and ugly genes have been blend thus making extra ugly chicks obsolete.
On the other hand congregation of wealth and beauty in western countries has led to extremes (extreme ugly since pretty girls did not give a chance to poor ugly men to marry them) since beautiful genes continuously are absorbed by the higher classes.
This is a common vie.In western eyes eastern Europe does not deserve this beauty level(it is not affordable financially).

[Wolverine]

Russian women (and slavic women in general) are not physically attracted to handsome or good looking men.
It is not about materialism it is to do with roles in society and social conditioning.

It is strictly the woman's role to be beautiful. The mans role is to be intelligent, charismatic and successful. A beautiful man is essentially taking the woman's role away from her.
Eg. Russian women are constantly making fun of Italian men for being "gay" (spending too much time on their appearance, hair style, skin, high maintenance, etc).

Russian women are sexually attracted to men with the following physical characteristics:
- Pure white skin and light hair
- Tall
- Very short (or bald) hair (there are several famous bald Russian prime time actors who are regarded as sex symbols)
- Moderately ugly and disproportionate facial features (but not hideous)

Being handsome or a pretty boy will disadvantage you with Russian women. You will pull but will struggle to get anything over a 7.
You will never see a good looking Russian guy in the company of a beautiful Russian girl, regardless of how much wealth he has.
Ukraine and Slovakia is exactly the same.

The best chance a good looking guy has with a hot Russian girl is when she is on an overseas holiday.

[Greek kamaki]

Serbian women go for macho tall athletic men similar to Serbs.Polish women show an affinity towards underwhelming gayish guys.Ukrainian women prefer the primitive Ukrainian mafia look(short hair,stocky,muscular posture,round face,dark clothes etc).
Generally slavic men trend to bald early so baldness does not matter a lot for slavic women.Many have told me also that if a guy has money appearance does not matter at all(a man has to be just more handsome than a pig says a Czech proverb and all slavic countries have sth similar).

[CrazyBoy]

(12-12-2012 08:52 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

Russian women (and slavic women in general) are not physically attracted to handsome or good looking men.
It is not about materialism it is to do with roles in society and social conditioning.

It is strictly the woman's role to be beautiful. The mans role is to be intelligent, charismatic and successful. A beautiful man is essentially taking the woman's role away from her.
Eg. Russian women are constantly making fun of Italian men for being "gay" (spending too much time on their appearance, hair style, skin, high maintenance, etc).

Russian women are sexually attracted to men with the following physical characteristics:
- Pure white skin and light hair
- Tall
- Very short (or bald) hair (there are several famous bald Russian prime time actors who are regarded as sex symbols)
- Moderately ugly and disproportionate facial features (but not hideous)

Being handsome or a pretty boy will disadvantage you with Russian women. You will pull but will struggle to get anything over a 7.
You will never see a good looking Russian guy in the company of a beautiful Russian girl, regardless of how much wealth he has.
Ukraine and Slovakia is exactly the same.

The best chance a good looking guy has with a hot Russian girl is when she is on an overseas holiday.

Hmmm....I'm in Los Angeles.

There's been 2 Russian women working at my place in the last year.

One is a 8 - she's married a to a black American guy. She's about 5'7", brunette, perfect body. I wouldn't say her husband was a particularly handsome guy.

The other one is only about 5'2" blonde, but she's a 9.5 looks wise. I've never seen her husband, but he must be Japanese based on her last name...

There's also a Ukrainian blonde 7, she has a bf now, I don't know what he is. Her ex husband was French.

[chochemonger1]

(12-12-2012 08:52 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

Russian women (and slavic women in general) are not physically attracted to handsome or good looking men.
It is not about materialism it is to do with roles in society and social conditioning.

It is strictly the woman's role to be beautiful. The mans role is to be intelligent, charismatic and successful. A beautiful man is essentially taking the woman's role away from her.
Eg. Russian women are constantly making fun of Italian men for being "gay" (spending too much time on their appearance, hair style, skin, high maintenance, etc).

Russian women are sexually attracted to men with the following physical characteristics:
- Pure white skin and light hair
- Tall
- Very short (or bald) hair (there are several famous bald Russian prime time actors who are regarded as sex symbols)
- Moderately ugly and disproportionate facial features (but not hideous)

Being handsome or a pretty boy will disadvantage you with Russian women. You will pull but will struggle to get anything over a 7.
You will never see a good looking Russian guy in the company of a beautiful Russian girl, regardless of how much wealth he has.
Ukraine and Slovakia is exactly the same.

The best chance a good looking guy has with a hot Russian girl is when she is on an overseas holiday.

Wolverine, in your opinion, is the pure white skin and light hair criterion so strong for Russian women? Will I have to go for a niche market over there? I dont have a Russian flag , but I have had russian women outside of their country show me attention, especially when I have been killing myself at the gym.

[Wolverine]

(12-12-2012 02:51 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Wolverine, in your opinion, is the pure white skin and light hair criterion so strong for Russian women? Will I have to go for a niche market over there? I dont have a Russian flag , but I have had russian women outside of their country show me attention, especially when I have been killing myself at the gym.

Yes it is a strong criterion. You will see yourself when you go.

Everything you thought you knew about the rules of physical attraction will go out the window in Russia and Ukraine.

They like moderately ugly tall white men with very short or no hair. Its irrational but this is what turns them on sexually.

[chochemonger1]

(12-13-2012 01:27 PM)Wolverine Wrote:  

(12-12-2012 02:51 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Wolverine, in your opinion, is the pure white skin and light hair criterion so strong for Russian women? Will I have to go for a niche market over there? I dont have a Russian flag , but I have had russian women outside of their country show me attention, especially when I have been killing myself at the gym.

Yes it is a strong criterion. You will see yourself when you go.

Everything you thought you knew about the rules of physical attraction will go out the window in Russia and Ukraine.

They like moderately ugly tall white men with very short or no hair. Its irrational but this is what turns them on sexually.

Wolverine, I believe you completely. So if I go to Siberia, I better have all my bases covered or else I will be shooting blanks.
Do you think a city in a city like Moscow or St Pete would be easier for a Latino American?
When people ask me advice about a country or city in South America, there is usually nuances and differences between regions and even cities. So I guide them accordingly. Is Russia like that?
For whatever reason, I see Siberian girls as more humble and with the exotic effect and assuming my Russian is decent.....doing ok.
Or is it just that the Russian culture and mindset is so strong, that it doesnt matter where I go?

[Wolverine]

(12-13-2012 02:14 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Wolverine, I believe you completely. So if I go to Siberia, I better have all my bases covered or else I will be shooting blanks.
Do you think a city in a city like Moscow or St Pete would be easier for a Latino American?
When people ask me advice about a country or city in South America, there is usually nuances and differences between regions and even cities. So I guide them accordingly. Is Russia like that?
For whatever reason, I see Siberian girls as more humble and with the exotic effect and assuming my Russian is decent.....doing ok.
Or is it just that the Russian culture and mindset is so strong, that it doesnt matter where I go?

It depends on what your priorities are. The provinces are the place to find a great wife or long term girlfriend not the place to operate as an anonymous player.

Even a city of 1 million is small and you will lose both your anonymity and exotic foreign appeal within 2 weeks, especially if you are in a group size greater than 2. Also Russia has no cultural or touristic value east of the Urals (Ekaturinburg) so your tolerance threshold for the ugliness of these towns will be tested.

The girls in the provinces are also more conservative with regard to casual sex. They are marriage minded from the age of 19. There are exceptions of course but this is the norm.

I think Skywalker mentioned he romanced 3 girls over a 7 week period in the provinces. This despite being tall, blonde and northern European. The perfect profile for Russian girls.

Judging by the sexual frustration evident on the Siberian thread i think you would all be better served in the big 2 cities. From Moscow one can always catch a cheap (US$110) flight to any shit hole in Russia, including Vladivostok.

[chochemonger1]

(12-15-2012 09:24 AM)Wolverine Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 02:14 PM)chochemonger1 Wrote:  

Wolverine, I believe you completely. So if I go to Siberia, I better have all my bases covered or else I will be shooting blanks.
Do you think a city in a city like Moscow or St Pete would be easier for a Latino American?
When people ask me advice about a country or city in South America, there is usually nuances and differences between regions and even cities. So I guide them accordingly. Is Russia like that?
For whatever reason, I see Siberian girls as more humble and with the exotic effect and assuming my Russian is decent.....doing ok.
Or is it just that the Russian culture and mindset is so strong, that it doesnt matter where I go?

It depends on what your priorities are. The provinces are the place to find a great wife or long term girlfriend not the place to operate as an anonymous player.

Even a city of 1 million is small and you will lose both your anonymity and exotic foreign appeal within 2 weeks, especially if you are in a group size greater than 2. Also Russia has no cultural or touristic value east of the Urals (Ekaturinburg) so your tolerance threshold for the ugliness of these towns will be tested.

The girls in the provinces are also more conservative with regard to casual sex. They are marriage minded from the age of 19. There are exceptions of course but this is the norm.

I think Skywalker mentioned he romanced 3 girls over a 7 week period in the provinces. This despite being tall, blonde and northern European. The perfect profile for Russian girls.

Judging by the sexual frustration evident on the Siberian thread i think you would all be better served in the big 2 cities. From Moscow one can always catch a cheap (US$110) flight to any shit hole in Russia, including Vladivostok.

Great info Wolverine. Thanks. We will have to this into consideration.