[Dr. Howard]

(08-09-2016 12:54 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Imagine today's pussified leftist men as grandfathers (the ones who don't end up cucked to death or addicted to VR porn at least) and you'll come to the conclusion that only a man's character matters, not his age.

In other words, age brings wisdom only if you possess the capacity to learn in the first place.

I don't know if today's leftist pussies will end up becoming grandfathers. Their way of life will likely lead to the following outcomes in old age:

1. They will die old and childless, with no one to mentor
2. They will get divorced before age 65 and will have a bitter red pill introduction for their children
3. They will die early from years of stress at being hen pecked and cucked by their wife and being treated like a wallet by their kids, they won't make it to the age where they can advise their adult children.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(08-09-2016 09:35 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 12:54 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Imagine today's pussified leftist men as grandfathers (the ones who don't end up cucked to death or addicted to VR porn at least) and you'll come to the conclusion that only a man's character matters, not his age.

In other words, age brings wisdom only if you possess the capacity to learn in the first place.

I don't know if today's leftist pussies will end up becoming grandfathers. Their way of life will likely lead to the following outcomes in old age:

1. They will die old and childless, with no one to mentor
2. They will get divorced before age 65 and will have a bitter red pill introduction for their children
3. They will die early from years of stress at being hen pecked and cucked by their wife and being treated like a wallet by their kids, they won't make it to the age where they can advise their adult children.

4. Their henpecked demeanour gives their grandchildren the (correct) impression that they have no lessons to teach on how to become a winner.

[Leonard D Neubache]

(08-09-2016 07:50 AM)Buck Wild Wrote:  

(08-09-2016 05:11 AM)tomzestatlu Wrote:  

(08-08-2016 10:52 PM)Noir Wrote:  

(08-08-2016 10:32 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

^ Sounds like a good dude, minus the prejudices against blacks. Still a very captivating read.

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so he ended up blaming the color instead of socio-economic reasons.
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I feel like being on leftist feminist forum... "socio-economic reason"... I bet your granpa knows what he says and why he says it.

Honestly don't get what was wrong with what he said. It's not rich blacks or middle class blacks robbing people. It's poor blacks.

Without seeking to derail the thread, old timers generally don't waste time fucking around treating everyone as unique and special snowflakes. They know that it's a wasted effort.

For example, if I travelled to Darwin, NT and decided to approach every Aboriginal there as a unique and special snowflake I might make a few friends but I'd also end up in the hospital, having been robbed and beaten to a pulp.

There are two types of racism. One is hating certain people because they're different. The other is avoiding certain people because they are far more statistically likely to fuck you over.

One is stupid and backward. The other is common sense lost on many of today's well indoctrinated youth.

[nomadbrah]

One of my grandfathers was a violent bastard, from the time you could really go crazy on your family and not lose custody or get divorced. My other grandfather was the greatest man I've known. Both were from the so called 'greatest generation' so it just goes to show, old age doesn't make you a good person.

Grandparents are very important because they also act as a check on your parents. They tend to take the side of their grandchildren against the parents and can interfere and mediate when parents do something stupid.

[Bobb Johnson]

Sadly I never got a chance to really meet my grandparents.

My father was an orphan. My maternal grandfather died about 15 years before I was born.

From what my mother tells me, her father was real old school. My maternal grandfather was a police chief turned businessman. He was married 3 different times and had 11 children (all my uncles and aunts).

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(08-08-2016 10:52 PM)Noir Wrote:  

(08-08-2016 10:32 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

^ Sounds like a good dude, minus the prejudices against blacks. Still a very captivating read.

Indeed, he grew up in South Africa during apartheid and that definitely shaped him.

The crime has been rampant over the past 5 years and they broke in and stole $12k worth of jewellery back in December so he ended up blaming the color instead of socio-economic reasons.

Funny thing about that morning was I was having a cigarette and I got a bad feeling. It's happened before and I was right. I turned to my girlfriend and said 'something bad is about to happen'.

5 minutes later, my aunt called me to inform me of what happened.

Not to go off-topic here, but when you suffer wrongs again and again from the same group and come to dislike that group, that's not prejudice.

Prejudice means pre-judging. That's not what he did. He didn't pre-judge. He post-judged. His behavior should be characterized as self-protection, not prejudice.

When we buy a product, if the product is bad repeatedly, we come to dislike the brand. That's not prejudice either. Again, that's self-preservation.

The first instinct of any member of any species is to survive. No one should be made to feel guilty or bad because they heed this instinct. Wanting to protect your life and your wealth is a completely sane reaction to getting robbed.

The only reason we think other wise is because of media lib-ocrytes and the quasi-religious martyr bullshit they spout. Keep in mind, I'm saying this as an Italian-American who grew up fending off prejudiced people. But their "prejudice" was borne of horrific experiences from my people so, in retrospect, it was more like justified fear.

[debeguiled]

(08-09-2016 04:08 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

Not to go off-topic here, but when you suffer wrongs again and again from the same group and come to dislike that group, that's not prejudice.

Excellent excellent point.

Many people confuse operant conditioning with prejudice.

I would go one even further, that even when you are radically against racism or prejudice of any kind, when you are constantly mistreated by members of a particular race, or sex, or anything, really, there is a very good chance that in the heat of the moment, the operant conditioning will win.

It explains why there are so many conflicts between black people in the U.S. and the police. Black people have more negative experiences with police, and police have more negative experiences with black criminals than people who aren't in law enforcement.

So when either sees the other, it is the bell that precedes the meat, leading to a particular kind of salivation.

It is an almost intractable problem.

In fact, one could say that one of the highest measures of moral behavior is giving other people the benefit of the doubt no matter what your conditioning, and that entails a heroic act of will at the time it is happening.

Now, to get this topic back on track.

I had a grandparent who was raised in a time and a culture when white people of her experience believed that black people weren't as intelligent as white people.

She (it wasn't a grandfather, it was a grandmother, but I am trying to inch back to the topic at hand.) loved to watch football, and the Dallas Cowboys were her favorite team.

I went over to her house once and I saw her sitting in her favorite chair in the corner looking completely discombobulated. I said, Grandma, what's wrong?

And she said, I always thought Negros were slow, but I was watching Tony Dorsett being interviewed, and he is smart. He is really smart.

It was like you could see a belief being changed on the spot.

But she was a tough old bird, and willing to face facts and get on with life. An attitude like that, the willingness to change long held beliefs when the facts contradict them, is the sign of a sort of character that is slipping away these days.

Ignorance, conditioning, oversimplification, these things are not the same thing as evidence of racism at all, or sexism or whatever, they are merely the mental artifacts of being a limited human being, and what separates them from chauvinisms of all kinds, is the willingness to change when you are proven wrong.

[Tim in real life]

This. I find it highly insulting even my aunt who's running my paternal clan won't let me talk to my paternal grandfather face-to-face, especially when she possibly sabotaged my biological parents' marriage, which ended in annulment.

I lost my maternal grandfather when I was 8, and since then, I just noticed in hindsight I started struggling on my grades all throughout grade school (read: before 8th grade).