I was contemplating not writing this up, as the end result of my trip was 0 bangs. Despite that I feel I can give some info not previously detailed in previous datasheets.
Before you read this I would point you to unbowed and his report here
and then slubu and his report here
I’ve read both of these datasheets and what these guys say I feel like they were pulling it out of my own brain. For what little it’s worth, I vouch that they paint a solid picture of Tallinn and the obstacles one may face.
ME
Early 30's, skinny fit, average looks (don't think I'm ugly), white, American. Tutorial level beginner level game, emerging from unfulfilled incel life behind a desk, eager to make up lost time. Stayed 2 and a half weeks in mid-part of 2014 summer directly after my trip to Ios, Greece
BACKGROUND
Tallinn is the capital of a small country in the Baltic called Estonia. It is geographically and historically tied to two other countries, Lithuania and Latvia, into the “Baltic States”. However Estonia is distinct from the other two as Latvians and Lithuanians are not only Baltic States, but are also part of the Baltic sub-ethnicity whereas the Estonians are from a Finno-Ugric background. This is interestingly similar to the situation Finland finds itself, historically and geographically bound under the Scandinavian tag, but unlike Danes, Norwegians, and Swedes, are not Germanic-Norse. To the trained observer this causes a difference in appearance in Estonians to its neighbors, particularly in the eyes which may cause exceptionally large boners.
Tallinn’s metro population barely crosses 500,000. It is a sleepy capital with a center that I felt could be walked from top to bottom in 10 minutes. After the first week I kept seeing the same people over and over, giving what others have called a village-vibe to the locals where everyone knows everyone. It’s also very significant to mention that Tallinn is nearly 50% Russian.
ESTONIANS
Estonians have suffered under the Soviet Union along with the rest of the Warsaw Pact satellite states. Estonians were conscripted en masse into the SS during WWII, and along with its Baltic neighbors continued to fight a guerilla war against the communists long after WWII ended in lone wolf/ small units called “Forest Brothers”. The last forest brother was a man named August Sabbe who, at the age of 69 when found by the KGB in 1978, drowned himself instead of being taken alive by the hated soviets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Sabbe
Estonia has joined the European Union in 2004, and with that has entered a rapidly changing cyclone towards western thinking and western values. Estonians have generally very unfavorable views towards Russians, and do not seem to be able to separate the past Soviet Union government’s actions with the modern Russian people. This is exacerbated by the fact that there are large Russian populations all across Estonia giving the feel of cultural displacement to the tiny Estonian population.
Why am I giving you a history lesson? What does this have to do with banging girls in Estonia?
What this has caused is for Estonians to not slowly edge west like other EE countries, but to jump head first into all things western. Estonia is in NATO. There is a McDonalds expanding waistlines smack-dab in Tallinn center. Beyonce is a goddess worshiped. Walking into any of the two center malls you would think the hipster craze started in Estonia, it is by far the largest subculture visible. Western clothing, western music, western thinking, no brakes on this train.
These cultural shifts have not happened in a balanced way, some details are lagging behind. For example many Estonians still maintain their model looks and it won’t be too uncommon to see absolute stunners on the street. The situation is way better than UK/USA.
The most peculiar irony however is that Estonians haven’t quite developed bitch shields, while developing everything else western.
What happens to a woman who’s approached constantly but has no bitch shield?
The average Estonian girl has the attention span of a gnat.
Smiley and receptive to you until the exact millisecond you move out of sight.
This is documented in the two other trip reports I linked above. Slubu called it the Estonian switch and it is 100% true.
Estonia is on the map for the Baltic trio, and gets its fair share of tourists in the summer. Estonians also have enough disposable income to travel during the summer. Coupled with the already small population, this creates a double penetration KO on the available girls that Roosh himself documented here:
I know the picture being painted is grim, but I’m going to drop the information that convinced me to write this.
RUSSIANS
The Russian element in Estonia is as close to a European apartheid state as you can get. After the collapse of the Soviet Union the Baltic Russians did not get Estonian citizenship, they had to learn that crazy language first which meant most of them were stateless unless they requested Russian citizenship.
Great steps have been taken since then but there’s still a large gap. Every Russian I met was extremely insular, spoke only Russian, went to Russian bars and clubs that weren’t listed anywhere on any website or forum. I would say the equivalent of their insular-ness would be between Mormons and Jehovah’s witnesses in USA.
The women are smoking hot, they have only been told they are beautiful by their mommas and pappas, and have had the most minimal western exposure I’ve ever seen (and I’ve been to Russia proper). They are not integrated into society. I NEVER encountered a single Russian girl in the night game areas I mention below. They go somewhere else, hidden. The whole second class citizen bubble has accentuated all those traits a man loves in the EE girls. In this disconnect of the world there is opportunity. If there’s anywhere outside of a Siberian village to find a wife, it’s in this displaced population.
In cracking this secret underground Baltic Russian community a man may find himself in the El Dorado of Poosy Paradise, never to be heard from again living happily ever after in bliss, like a shipwrecked sailor who becomes worshiped as a god among natives on an isolated island.
I believe all you need is conversational Russian and the will/time to poke around a bit.
ESTONIAN SONG FESTIVAL
Every five years Estonians gather in Tallinn to sing in a massive choir of cultural significance. I chose to go to Estonia because if every Estonian is going to Tallinn right when I am there…. The city must be overflowing with beautiful Estonian country girls….right?
Wrong, it’s nearly all kindergarteners; I saw a mild bump in pedestrian traffic and nearly none during nightlife. Airball.
LODGINGS
Apartments on airbnb are relatively cheap. You want to stay as close to old town as you can, although many apartments inside old town are total shit shacks. I had an apartment 5 minutes walk from old town.
PLACES TO EAT
After poking around a bit I stuck to a staple of three places that did my budget wonders, while still eating like a king. Tallinn had exceptionally good food.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_R...ounty.html
Thinking about this place is making my mouth water. It’s a pancake house, except the pancakes can be stuffed with 50-something choices from ham to sausage to even salmon. When I was there one pancake was like 3 Euro and I was full the entire day. One of the best places I ever ate at. EVER.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_R...ounty.html
Viking themed tavern, cheap food, don’t buy the beer it’s overpriced. It’s built into the main square stone building you can’t miss it.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_R...ounty.html
Unassuming blue door in the north part of the old town, I kept going back for their plum sauce pork.
NIGHTLIFE
Chicago – avoid, themed nightclub/restaurant
Must Puudel – I felt like this was the best bar in Tallinn for gaming women. A lounge that was full more nights then not with a bunch of hipster Estonians sitting around listening to 8 tracks. Ratios can be erratic but it was best here than anywhere else for me to open girls. Not hard to find.
Levist Valjas – this is literally a dungeon on the east side of old town. Outside there’s always 6 metal heads straight out of a Cannibal Corpse concert that will mad dog you ( I never had any problems). This place is worth a mention because there’s a good chance for trashy young Estonian girls to be inside.
Paar Veini – Highly recommended to me by a local but every time I went it was beyond dead. Best beer prices per quantity though.
Studio – the only nightclub I saw a line outside of, pretty much all you got for club game that I could see.
Shooters/(other bar right next to it) – There is an intersection at the center of the old town with 2 dive bars right next to one another. This felt like ground zero to me with a few people hanging outside late at night. Gutter game area.
Unfortunately most nights out by 1am would quickly turn into me walking around empty cobblestone streets straight out of a zombie apocalypse movie. Add some smoke, and black and white filters and I was Micheal Jackson in Thriller. The town was so dead in July I can’t really say much else.
STORY #1 RUSSIAN CINTHIA DICKER
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When returning to my apartment after a hearty meal at the Kompressor pancake house, A folk garbed Cinthia Dicker clone was in front of me handing out flyers to some medieval torture device showcase.
I was so stunned by her beauty that I got a rush of armpit sweat. I had to approach her.
“Do you get more money if you hand more of these out?”
Russian Cinthia Dicker immediately said “Oh!” and put her index finger on her lips while looking up, in schoolgirl fashion thinking.
“I’m sorry only speak Russian!”
She seemed happy to have recited a line she apparently remembered in case anyone like me talked to her in English.
The next two minutes was the most disastrous butchering of the Russian language to have ever taken place as I tried to ask her again, but in Russian. Eventually the charades part of my translation won out and she shook her head “Nyet”. I then took 5 flyers from her as she looked at me like I had 3 heads.
“Spasibo!” and I left. She smiled a bit and I wondered how I could have extended my attempt on her while she was at work + no language knowledge, but I was out of ideas. I passed the same area every day after and never saw her again.
STORY #2 THE MILF SNIPER
4am- 5am I can’t remember, sun was coming up and I was heading back to my apartment rather dejected from another night out of town with slim pickings.
I had no idea where she came from but a tall thick big titted blonde came up to me and asked for a light. She was probably 30 but her face was holding up well together with her brick-shithouse body.
“Ahh I don’t smoke sorry”
We stopped in the street and I didn’t resume walking, she started to fidget in her skimpy clothes and let out a nervous laugh “so fat…. Still trying to get the fat from having a baby off”
“You shouldn’t worry about it, you look great. You should see American women they never take the fat off after babies, sometimes they don’t even need to have babies to get fat.”
She laughed and said I look like John Cusack, this is the 3rd time I heard this in Europe, I do not look like John Cusack. Every bang sensor in my head went off.
After mentioning me a few of her favorite John Cusack movies she then came out with it as nonchalantly as you would say good morning or thank you.
“Do you want to have a threesome with me?”
“With who?” I was too tired and drunk to show outward reaction.
“Me, you, and my husband. After it can just be me and you.”
Two dude threesomes are not for me comprede? I asked her if she would just have sex with me, she said her husband lets her have sex with anyone as long as he’s involved first. I further inquired what exactly would her husband and I be doing, she said nothing homo just doing her. The matter-of-fact tone of the conversation was strange to me, it was like a prostitute negotiation, except there was no prostitution, she just wanted me to DP her with her husband because I looked like John Cusack.
I told her no eventually, she relented but she asked me for my number to meet up later in the week. I got her number and sent her a text the next day. radio silence.
CONCLUSION
Estonia is worth coming to. Day game is probably a decent way to get the Estonian girls, and Russian girls too if you have some Russian language skills. Online is dead don’t bother outside of tinder. Summer is dead don’t bother. Night game is Hunger games.
I can see a guy making out great by coming in the spring/fall and doing primarily day game.
I can see a guy elevating into the cosmos and transcending man and game and all that is in between if he could crack the shadowy Baltic Russian cliques.
Good Luck, Hope this helped.
Before you read this I would point you to unbowed and his report here
and then slubu and his report here
I’ve read both of these datasheets and what these guys say I feel like they were pulling it out of my own brain. For what little it’s worth, I vouch that they paint a solid picture of Tallinn and the obstacles one may face.
ME
Early 30's, skinny fit, average looks (don't think I'm ugly), white, American. Tutorial level beginner level game, emerging from unfulfilled incel life behind a desk, eager to make up lost time. Stayed 2 and a half weeks in mid-part of 2014 summer directly after my trip to Ios, Greece
BACKGROUND
Tallinn is the capital of a small country in the Baltic called Estonia. It is geographically and historically tied to two other countries, Lithuania and Latvia, into the “Baltic States”. However Estonia is distinct from the other two as Latvians and Lithuanians are not only Baltic States, but are also part of the Baltic sub-ethnicity whereas the Estonians are from a Finno-Ugric background. This is interestingly similar to the situation Finland finds itself, historically and geographically bound under the Scandinavian tag, but unlike Danes, Norwegians, and Swedes, are not Germanic-Norse. To the trained observer this causes a difference in appearance in Estonians to its neighbors, particularly in the eyes which may cause exceptionally large boners.
Tallinn’s metro population barely crosses 500,000. It is a sleepy capital with a center that I felt could be walked from top to bottom in 10 minutes. After the first week I kept seeing the same people over and over, giving what others have called a village-vibe to the locals where everyone knows everyone. It’s also very significant to mention that Tallinn is nearly 50% Russian.
ESTONIANS
Estonians have suffered under the Soviet Union along with the rest of the Warsaw Pact satellite states. Estonians were conscripted en masse into the SS during WWII, and along with its Baltic neighbors continued to fight a guerilla war against the communists long after WWII ended in lone wolf/ small units called “Forest Brothers”. The last forest brother was a man named August Sabbe who, at the age of 69 when found by the KGB in 1978, drowned himself instead of being taken alive by the hated soviets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Sabbe
Estonia has joined the European Union in 2004, and with that has entered a rapidly changing cyclone towards western thinking and western values. Estonians have generally very unfavorable views towards Russians, and do not seem to be able to separate the past Soviet Union government’s actions with the modern Russian people. This is exacerbated by the fact that there are large Russian populations all across Estonia giving the feel of cultural displacement to the tiny Estonian population.
Why am I giving you a history lesson? What does this have to do with banging girls in Estonia?
What this has caused is for Estonians to not slowly edge west like other EE countries, but to jump head first into all things western. Estonia is in NATO. There is a McDonalds expanding waistlines smack-dab in Tallinn center. Beyonce is a goddess worshiped. Walking into any of the two center malls you would think the hipster craze started in Estonia, it is by far the largest subculture visible. Western clothing, western music, western thinking, no brakes on this train.
These cultural shifts have not happened in a balanced way, some details are lagging behind. For example many Estonians still maintain their model looks and it won’t be too uncommon to see absolute stunners on the street. The situation is way better than UK/USA.
The most peculiar irony however is that Estonians haven’t quite developed bitch shields, while developing everything else western.
What happens to a woman who’s approached constantly but has no bitch shield?
The average Estonian girl has the attention span of a gnat.
Smiley and receptive to you until the exact millisecond you move out of sight.
This is documented in the two other trip reports I linked above. Slubu called it the Estonian switch and it is 100% true.
Estonia is on the map for the Baltic trio, and gets its fair share of tourists in the summer. Estonians also have enough disposable income to travel during the summer. Coupled with the already small population, this creates a double penetration KO on the available girls that Roosh himself documented here:
I know the picture being painted is grim, but I’m going to drop the information that convinced me to write this.
RUSSIANS
The Russian element in Estonia is as close to a European apartheid state as you can get. After the collapse of the Soviet Union the Baltic Russians did not get Estonian citizenship, they had to learn that crazy language first which meant most of them were stateless unless they requested Russian citizenship.
Great steps have been taken since then but there’s still a large gap. Every Russian I met was extremely insular, spoke only Russian, went to Russian bars and clubs that weren’t listed anywhere on any website or forum. I would say the equivalent of their insular-ness would be between Mormons and Jehovah’s witnesses in USA.
The women are smoking hot, they have only been told they are beautiful by their mommas and pappas, and have had the most minimal western exposure I’ve ever seen (and I’ve been to Russia proper). They are not integrated into society. I NEVER encountered a single Russian girl in the night game areas I mention below. They go somewhere else, hidden. The whole second class citizen bubble has accentuated all those traits a man loves in the EE girls. In this disconnect of the world there is opportunity. If there’s anywhere outside of a Siberian village to find a wife, it’s in this displaced population.
In cracking this secret underground Baltic Russian community a man may find himself in the El Dorado of Poosy Paradise, never to be heard from again living happily ever after in bliss, like a shipwrecked sailor who becomes worshiped as a god among natives on an isolated island.
I believe all you need is conversational Russian and the will/time to poke around a bit.
ESTONIAN SONG FESTIVAL
Every five years Estonians gather in Tallinn to sing in a massive choir of cultural significance. I chose to go to Estonia because if every Estonian is going to Tallinn right when I am there…. The city must be overflowing with beautiful Estonian country girls….right?
Wrong, it’s nearly all kindergarteners; I saw a mild bump in pedestrian traffic and nearly none during nightlife. Airball.
LODGINGS
Apartments on airbnb are relatively cheap. You want to stay as close to old town as you can, although many apartments inside old town are total shit shacks. I had an apartment 5 minutes walk from old town.
PLACES TO EAT
After poking around a bit I stuck to a staple of three places that did my budget wonders, while still eating like a king. Tallinn had exceptionally good food.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_R...ounty.html
Thinking about this place is making my mouth water. It’s a pancake house, except the pancakes can be stuffed with 50-something choices from ham to sausage to even salmon. When I was there one pancake was like 3 Euro and I was full the entire day. One of the best places I ever ate at. EVER.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_R...ounty.html
Viking themed tavern, cheap food, don’t buy the beer it’s overpriced. It’s built into the main square stone building you can’t miss it.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_R...ounty.html
Unassuming blue door in the north part of the old town, I kept going back for their plum sauce pork.
NIGHTLIFE
Chicago – avoid, themed nightclub/restaurant
Must Puudel – I felt like this was the best bar in Tallinn for gaming women. A lounge that was full more nights then not with a bunch of hipster Estonians sitting around listening to 8 tracks. Ratios can be erratic but it was best here than anywhere else for me to open girls. Not hard to find.
Levist Valjas – this is literally a dungeon on the east side of old town. Outside there’s always 6 metal heads straight out of a Cannibal Corpse concert that will mad dog you ( I never had any problems). This place is worth a mention because there’s a good chance for trashy young Estonian girls to be inside.
Paar Veini – Highly recommended to me by a local but every time I went it was beyond dead. Best beer prices per quantity though.
Studio – the only nightclub I saw a line outside of, pretty much all you got for club game that I could see.
Shooters/(other bar right next to it) – There is an intersection at the center of the old town with 2 dive bars right next to one another. This felt like ground zero to me with a few people hanging outside late at night. Gutter game area.
Unfortunately most nights out by 1am would quickly turn into me walking around empty cobblestone streets straight out of a zombie apocalypse movie. Add some smoke, and black and white filters and I was Micheal Jackson in Thriller. The town was so dead in July I can’t really say much else.
STORY #1 RUSSIAN CINTHIA DICKER
When returning to my apartment after a hearty meal at the Kompressor pancake house, A folk garbed Cinthia Dicker clone was in front of me handing out flyers to some medieval torture device showcase.
I was so stunned by her beauty that I got a rush of armpit sweat. I had to approach her.
“Do you get more money if you hand more of these out?”
Russian Cinthia Dicker immediately said “Oh!” and put her index finger on her lips while looking up, in schoolgirl fashion thinking.
“I’m sorry only speak Russian!”
She seemed happy to have recited a line she apparently remembered in case anyone like me talked to her in English.
The next two minutes was the most disastrous butchering of the Russian language to have ever taken place as I tried to ask her again, but in Russian. Eventually the charades part of my translation won out and she shook her head “Nyet”. I then took 5 flyers from her as she looked at me like I had 3 heads.
“Spasibo!” and I left. She smiled a bit and I wondered how I could have extended my attempt on her while she was at work + no language knowledge, but I was out of ideas. I passed the same area every day after and never saw her again.
STORY #2 THE MILF SNIPER
4am- 5am I can’t remember, sun was coming up and I was heading back to my apartment rather dejected from another night out of town with slim pickings.
I had no idea where she came from but a tall thick big titted blonde came up to me and asked for a light. She was probably 30 but her face was holding up well together with her brick-shithouse body.
“Ahh I don’t smoke sorry”
We stopped in the street and I didn’t resume walking, she started to fidget in her skimpy clothes and let out a nervous laugh “so fat…. Still trying to get the fat from having a baby off”
“You shouldn’t worry about it, you look great. You should see American women they never take the fat off after babies, sometimes they don’t even need to have babies to get fat.”
She laughed and said I look like John Cusack, this is the 3rd time I heard this in Europe, I do not look like John Cusack. Every bang sensor in my head went off.
After mentioning me a few of her favorite John Cusack movies she then came out with it as nonchalantly as you would say good morning or thank you.
“Do you want to have a threesome with me?”
“With who?” I was too tired and drunk to show outward reaction.
“Me, you, and my husband. After it can just be me and you.”
Two dude threesomes are not for me comprede? I asked her if she would just have sex with me, she said her husband lets her have sex with anyone as long as he’s involved first. I further inquired what exactly would her husband and I be doing, she said nothing homo just doing her. The matter-of-fact tone of the conversation was strange to me, it was like a prostitute negotiation, except there was no prostitution, she just wanted me to DP her with her husband because I looked like John Cusack.
I told her no eventually, she relented but she asked me for my number to meet up later in the week. I got her number and sent her a text the next day. radio silence.
CONCLUSION
Estonia is worth coming to. Day game is probably a decent way to get the Estonian girls, and Russian girls too if you have some Russian language skills. Online is dead don’t bother outside of tinder. Summer is dead don’t bother. Night game is Hunger games.
I can see a guy making out great by coming in the spring/fall and doing primarily day game.
I can see a guy elevating into the cosmos and transcending man and game and all that is in between if he could crack the shadowy Baltic Russian cliques.
Good Luck, Hope this helped.
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