Quote: (06-04-2016 04:10 AM)Sleek Wrote:
Fuck.
Tonight I went out, didn't drink that much, and... struggled. I don't know if it's because I just got out of a ten-month relationship, my inner game is off, I'm just plain rusty, or I just had sex last night. But damn, I'm upset with myself.
I saw this girl tonight at a bar that I was friends with years ago. We were talking for a bit and she was indicating that she was interested... conversation ended (she followed up with a question),
I put my arm around her (she smiled),
I put my arm around her again (she seemed like she liked it).
Then when my friend's friend swooped in to say hello, I ejected myself from the conversation.
I'm not sure if this girl was interested in me,
but I decided not to pursue it. I felt like a pussy, and I was being one. I was unprepared for the moment, and it just slipped away.
At least you know what you did wrong.
Was the cockblock
- a girl that your target knows?
- a guy that your target knows?
The girl you can engage and keep her occupied.
The guy, if he's an orbiter or a shark, you have to box out, asap.
"Oh is this your girlfriend?" *pause*
Then turn to her, "You sly little minx. How did you know I like it kinky"
"So bro, if we tag team, I want the pink, you can get the stink"
^Maybe not so over-the-top. But essentially the orbiter and the guy trying to steal your girl will usually be blown out when you put the idea of him having sex with her on the table. Guys are weird as fuck about that shit, and they don't know how to handle being "discovered".
Whatever gambit you use, the key here is that whoever comes into the conversation, into your space with the girl, has to go through you. You have to facilitate the action and get them to react to you, not you react to them.
This is one of the toughest things to do in game, and if I haven't been social in tough environments for a while, I don't always think on my feet.
Quote: (06-04-2016 04:10 AM)Sleek Wrote:
With other conversations I was having with hot girls I just didn't seem to know what to say next that would make them interested. When I get drunk,
I rarely have that issue... I'll usually say whatever comes to mind even if it's stupid.
[i]What do I say?
Sky's the limit.
I have all sorts of things that I like to start conversations with. The content doesn't really matter that much. Most communication is non-verbal anyway. (it's on wikipedia, look it up)
She's getting who you are from
- how you confidently you approach
- your tone and volume when you talk to her
- whether or not you lean in, or lean away
- whether you're concentrating on her, looking for responses...
I suggest you find yourself any canned routine. Any of them.
And then use that big brain of yours to analyze the structure.
So here's how'd i'd adapt the pet shop opener at a bar
*See the group of chicks.*
*Approach*
"Y'all look smart...so my baby sister is really into ferrets.
She's in middle school and she hasn't discovered boys yet.
I know she's gonna get there soon, but no rush. Boys are gonna be there.
*pause*
I kinda want to keep my little sister as a baby just a wee bit longer..
*pause*
Have you ever tried to find a ferret?
Do you even know where a pet shop is? They still make those?
I been calling around.. Ferrets, nowhere. I had to go online. You realize that I might have to meet a guy in a Wal-Mart parking lot to buy a ferret off Craig's list.
The whole thing sounds shady.
And I haven't told Mom about getting the ferret yet...
Like this ferret is her last little piece of childhood, mine was my BMX.
You look like you used to be into Carebears.
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So the point of this sort of pet shop opener is to show your humor and personality, as well as you caring for your sister, but also the reality of her growing up. I inject a little fear and a little absurdity. Then from there I make some cold reads.
I never actually ask a question.
I do give the chick/the audience a chance to chime in, to nod their heads.
And then if they don't chime in, I put them in a spot to confirm of deny.
That's what stories do. But you could do the same with a joke, with a question, sometimes with a look.
So you can really say anything.
An opener
- starts the conversation
- conveys your personality
- starts building attraction/interest right away.
But it doesn't really do this by the words you say, it's more by the vibe, tone, and volume.
Usually in a night game situation, the story itself has to be simple enough that you don't need to hear the details, just the broad strokes. The delivery of the story, how you tell it, is the thing that's communicating value to the chick. She doesn't need to get it, she needs to get you.
I'm the kind of guy that cares about my family. That's not necessarily a sexy thing, to be honest. It's not gonna make her panties wet. So I obviously would make things harder for myself. At the same time, I do that, and a chick feels that energy from me - that's the sort of girl I want to rock with.
If you're trying to bang tonight, the sort of stories you use, the jokes you tell, those are the ones that push the sex buttons, not the "aww" buttons.
So take the "where can I find a pet shop", and be like "one of my interns at work wants to get a puppy for his girlfriend after she found him cheating..."
From there you can get into the love affair, what his motivations were to cheat, how it happened, who it was with, graphic details, et cetera. It wasn't cheating...it was only text messages...and he didn't ask for the nudes.....but he didn't delete them either..."
I bet you got some pics on your phone right now...*raise one eye brow*
Anything juicy from your own life can be punched up and made into a routine. The mindset is that you want to sub-communicate things about you through the story, through how you tell it, through what you emphasize, through your voice and body language.
Quote: (06-04-2016 04:10 AM)Sleek Wrote:
Maybe this belongs in the Newbie forum... even though I haven't had problems like this with girls in years, I guess we can all revert back to our most beta version of ourselves at times.
This is a tough one.
But going out and interacting will get you back in the groove of being social.
The real key going forward is that you have to stay social every day.
Most guys approach game like it's a diet.
I'm gonna do this thing for a few months, maybe even a year...but when I get the weight that I want, I'm gonna stop
...and go back to my old habits....and then gain the weight back.
Permanent change in your life, means a permanent change in your lifestyle.
That means 18 months from now, when you meet a 10 and go exclusive with her - you have to start expanding your social circle and meeting new people all the time.
You don't get to rest, ever. You're never off the diet. It's not a diet anymore. This is how you eat. This is how you live.
WIA
