[Bacchus]

Look at this faggotry.

http://nymag.com/betamale/

Here's how they explain the site:

Quote:

Welcome to Beta Male, a new site from New York Media that for the next four weeks will talk about manly kinds of things, only maybe not in the usual manly way.[...]

Beta Male’s premise is that the chiseled altar of virility is looking a little dated; overwrought; kitschy. Avatars of alpha like Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, and Dan Bilzerian have spent years mastering the rough-hewn drag of manliness, but the old moves aren’t landing the way they used to — football causes brain damage and big cars are choking the planet. So we’re ready to call a time out – to do what, we’re not sure. The newest iteration of manhood is still very much in beta.

The funny thing is, the site reads like any other "men's interest" site from the mainstream media. The five headlines up right now are about anti-Trump stuff and baseball. Except Beta Male, the site makes explicit its pro-simping theme. Thus concludes today's lesson in media.

[SamuelBRoberts]

Why get mad?

This kind of thinking is on its way out. No one wants to imitate these people. No one wants to be around these people.
This is just a loser trying to justify his losing. The idea that people will chose to be like this fag instead of Putin, Trump, and Bilzerian is just silly.

[Alsos]

"manly kinds of things"

"only maybe not in the usual manly way"

"to do what, we’re not sure"

I'll at least give them props for getting the 'voice' right. This hedging, uncertain tone has beta indecisiveness and irresolution written all over it.

[Fortis]

Masturbeta blog.

[bigrich]

This from the magazine that published the article about a male feminist who helped his wife cheat on hm by watching over their kids.

[Travesty]

Only fags like and memorize baseball stats.

[philosophical_recovery]

Sweet. The pool of competition just got shallower.

[budoslavic]

Quote:

Meanwhile, the premise of Mansplaining — a somewhat controversial one among the Cut’s team — is that men are good writers, too! Perhaps, we thought, they could even answer some of women’s more pressing questions about them, such as: Why do they take so long to put on their shoes? Why do they play video games long into adulthood? Why do they want us to listen to that guitar solo so badly? And what does a blow job actually feel like?

To kick things off, Cut editor Stella Bugbee and Beta Male editor Aaron Gell talked about the pleasures and pitfalls of gender silos, female dominance of the personal-essay form, and the end of men … or is it only the beginning?

SB: We’re supposed to fight, right? Get a good rivalry going.

AG: Yeah. But wouldn’t that be too predictable?

SB: Yes, so boring.

AG: Remember Moonlighting? Me neither. So tell me, what’s it like editing a gender-based blog in a post-gender world when the old hierarchies have mostly broken down?

SB: Well, for one thing, you need balls of steel, to use a totally alpha-male metaphor.

AG: You heard that clanging in the hallway? That wasn’t me.

SB: I think it was the boys on Select All, actually.

AG: I am sitting in their pod and the musk is overwhelming.

SB: Musk. Ew. But seriously, it’s a minefield, as I am sure you’ll soon discover.

AG: I think I have already gotten a little taste of that. I feel I have been put on notice, to some extent.

SB: Yeah, working on a woman’s site I am used to being critiqued. It was nice to see someone else getting that heat for a change.

AG: Happy to help.

SB: I liked the email you wrote asking writers to pitch to Beta Male, in which you mentioned that “among the many areas in which women are just totally crushing it lately (sheesh, women!) is the confessional essay.” It reminded me of an interview with Elena Ferrante (you probably haven’t read her, being a man and all) in which she said something like, “Women need to create a rich tradition of our own by which men must measure themselves.” And for one second I was like, “WE DID IT!” It only lasted one second, though.

AG: I have not read her, but she is on my list. After I reread Updike!

SB: I’ve heard of him. You should do a post on Beta Male about why men should read Ferrante, not just book one.

AG: Great. Can you file to me by next week?

SB: Done. So, are you a beta male?

AG: I guess I should come clean about that. I am a beta. But I have come to terms with it. That may come partly from being the smallest kid in my class throughout school and never once scoring an actual goal in six years as right wing on the Arlington Cubs.

SB: Did it feel good to admit that?

AG: It did. Maybe one goal.

SB: Aren’t there any short alphas?

AG: Maybe Napoleon or Tom Cruise. The pressure sort of drives them crazy. As a beta, I am happy to benefit from the extraordinarily low expectations people have of me.

SB: Speaking of low expectations, what do you hope to achieve with this blog?

AG: Just a bunch of guys sitting around talking about our feelings. Is that weird?

SB: Only if you’re in the woods in a drum circle.

AG: Men’s magazines are having an identity crisis. You could call it an identity meltdown. I recently worked for a men’s magazine that was trying to find itself, and the struggle is real.

SB: Let’s talk about that big meeting we had where we invited all the editors from print and web to bring ideas for Beta Male. There were so many pitches about porn!

AG: Yes! Also, quite a few staffers would like us to have a porn critic.

SB: But you won’t, right?

AG: I’m not sure there’s enough narrative ambition on RedTube to justify a close read. But there is a fascinating story on tickle porn in the pipeline.

SB: [Googles tickle porn] When I found out there was going to be a “man blog” I have to admit, I rolled my eyes a little.

AG: See, that’s sad. Let’s unpack that. And by the way, the scare quotes are duly noted.

SB: It was my knee-jerk reaction. I got over it.

AG: Mine too, a little. I don’t think that will be an uncommon response. But why?

SB: Well, there’s the cliché joke of like, “Every blog is a man blog.”

AG: I guess so. But don’t women want men to be introspective and talk about our feelings?

SB: I want men to be more like women. And vice versa. Down with gender binaries! The world is a better place when we make room to hear a range of experiences. Just not at the exclusion of others.

AG: It’s true that men have dominated a lot of conversations for a long time, and yet there are ways of speaking and maybe thinking where we are way behind. So now what? The last thing the world needs is a bunch of alienated, hurt, jobless, humiliated men running around being angry. (Ahem, Trump.)

SB: I am all for men getting in touch with their feelings. And sharing them. And questioning the way our world makes them perform their manhood.

AG: That has to be good, right?

SB: It certainly can’t hurt.

AG: But Beta Male’s not all about contemplating our manhood …

SB: Right. I hear you have a piece coming in from the guy with the world’s most perfect ass.

AG: Actually, I decided to save that for my memoir.

SB: …

AG: But to answer your question, we will have stuff about all the typical male obsessions: gadgets, sports, sex, video games, and night terrors.

SB: Great. We’ll be reading.

[Quintus Curtius]

(05-16-2016 09:37 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Why get mad?

This kind of thinking is on its way out. No one wants to imitate these people. No one wants to be around these people.
This is just a loser trying to justify his losing. The idea that people will chose to be like this fag instead of Putin, Trump, and Bilzerian is just silly.

Exactly. Look how desperate the establishment is getting. They are now nakedly trying to force "beta-ness" down everyone's throat. They're losing the ideological war.

The masculine renaissance is just beginning, and we helped start it, and infuse it with intellectual rigor.

.

[armenia4ever]

Quote:

SB: I want men to be more like women. And vice versa. Down with gender binaries! The world is a better place when we make room to hear a range of experiences. Just not at the exclusion of others.

WTF?

They aren't even shy about it. Wow. Just wow. Think about something for a moment; once these "beta" males realize how much garbage they have been deliberately fed and how they have been maliciously misled and sabotaged by the feminists at this tripe site and it's ilk, the response will be stunning and deafening.

All it takes is a small push into reality. A man will realize that being more like a woman and throwing his biology to the wind ends up with him failing so utterly, that he explores the darkest deepest caverns of the internet - places such as here - for the forbidden last ditch attempt for answers.

[AnonymousBosch]

Quote:

Avatars of alpha like Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, and Dan Bilzerian have spent years mastering the rough-hewn drag of manliness, but the old moves aren’t landing the way they used to

So, Russia is consolidating its power by standing firm for its beliefs against the rest of the world in a way that makes both China and Obama tread softly; Donald Trump is most likely going to become the US President; and Bilzerian has one of the most popular accounts on Instagram.

A non-SJW media industry would observe this and think "Huh, there's an obvious market for traditional alpha masculinity."

Instead, double down. "No, actually they're totally failing at being men."

I'd predict a "How I enjoyed my girlfriend's strap-on" article within a few weeks; and a failed brand within two years.

[Scoundrel]

I took a quick glance at the introductory piece. My intuition: Whoever wrote it is not a "beta male," but a full-on gay man.

(05-16-2016 09:40 PM)Alsos Wrote:  

This hedging, uncertain tone has beta indecisiveness and irresolution written all over it.

The theme of the blog seems to be confusion. Just as the author is likely confused about his sexuality (and possibly his gender identity), so the blog can't seem to make up its mind about whether it wants to be funny, or serious, or satirical or what. So it opts for all of the above, and naturally fails.

Much of that intro article is a weird, lengthy back-and-forth conversation between the male editor of the blog, and the female editor of another blog. Completely meaningless and pointless. Don't worry about it — apparently it's scheduled to last only four weeks anyway.

[lovejoy]

"Articles on how to become self hating, pathetic Manboobs prostrating themselves permanently into the friendzone"

[AnonymousBosch]

It gets even more ridiculous. The blurb says "Brought to you by Aveda". I'd never heard of them, so looked them up.

This 'Nu-Male Site' is sponsored by a Beautician School Franchise.

Quote:

"Our beauty school are not just about creating Great Hair and Great Skin, they're about making someone's day, making a difference for the community and the planet."

^ Bolded for Mental Environmentalism.

[RexImperator]

I know a girl who worked for them. It's a bunch of salons. They wax vaginas (among other things).

[GlobalMan]

(05-16-2016 10:31 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

It gets even more ridiculous. The blurb says "Brought to you by Aveda"

True story-

Three weeks ago I signed up with a focus group company. I took a pre-screen survey and was chosen to take part in a focus group on "mens hair care products", pay was to be $125 for an hour of my time and thoughts.

I took the drive out to the suburbs on a sunny afternoon to a corporate campus. I entered and was told to wait and someone will be out. There were a couple other guys there when I arrived, a few more filtered in over the next 10 minutes. Nine of us in total.

A girl eventually comes out and introduces herself as the rep of the marketing company running this focus group. She says "Oh wow looks like all of you showed up. We only need six for this" She said she was just going to choose some of us at random and began going around the room. She approaches me and has me mark my name on a sheet then hands me a prepaid Visa debit card with $125 written on it. After she has chosen three of us she stops, she says "ok if I gave you a card you can go ahead and leave, the rest of you follow me"

I had to ask the guy next to me if I heard that right. "Yeah man, they always overbook because usually at least a few don't show up. If you've been chosen to come, and you do show up, they pay you regardless because you've committed your time"

"This is fucking sweet"

So, 30 minutes after I left home, I was returning with $125.

The company? It was Aveda.

That evening, with my fresh prepaid Visa debit card in hand, I went to my favorite restaurant to meet my latest girl for some drinks and excellent sushi. A sweet, tall girl raised in the country, plump toned ass from regular workouts.

We laughed and had a truly excellent time. She was clutching my arm and completely enthralled with my stories of far off lands. It was effortless, one of those glorious times that comes around once in a great while, when you feel like a veteran comedian doing a greatest hits tour for adoring fans. She was like putty and I could do no wrong.

When we arrived at my place, she blew me on my 27th floor balcony while I looked over the city. I replayed what a truly great day it had been, and thought how great it is to be a man, in this era of weak beta losers.


Thanks Aveda!!


----

In a couple days I'm getting $75 to try some granola bars, then I'm picking up some un-named beer for a home taste test and will report my findings for $50.

Only in America.

[TheFinalEpic]

It's the same shit you'll see in Men's Fitness or Askmen. Both went down the tubes when they allowed women writers and pussified men to write articles about how "you can learn about working out from your girlfriend" or "why being nice always pays off" or "why you should take her back after she's banged 10 other guys".

[cascadecombo]

I made the mistake of reading the dialogue between the two.

[DamienCasanova]

(05-17-2016 12:13 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

(05-16-2016 10:31 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

It gets even more ridiculous. The blurb says "Brought to you by Aveda"

True story-

Three weeks ago I signed up with a focus group company. I took a pre-screen survey and was chosen to take part in a focus group on "mens hair care products", pay was to be $125 for an hour of my time and thoughts.

I took the drive out to the suburbs on a sunny afternoon to a corporate campus. I entered and was told to wait and someone will be out. There were a couple other guys there when I arrived, a few more filtered in over the next 10 minutes. Nine of us in total.

A girl eventually comes out and introduces herself as the rep of the marketing company running this focus group. She says "Oh wow looks like all of you showed up. We only need six for this" She said she was just going to choose some of us at random and began going around the room. She approaches me and has me mark my name on a sheet then hands me a prepaid Visa debit card with $125 written on it. After she has chosen three of us she stops, she says "ok if I gave you a card you can go ahead and leave, the rest of you follow me"

I had to ask the guy next to me if I heard that right. "Yeah man, they always overbook because usually at least a few don't show up. If you've been chosen to come, and you do show up, they pay you regardless because you've committed your time"

"This is fucking sweet"

So, 30 minutes after I left home, I was returning with $125.

The company? It was Aveda.

That evening, with my fresh prepaid Visa debit card in hand, I went to my favorite restaurant to meet my latest girl for some drinks and excellent sushi. A sweet, tall girl raised in the country, plump toned ass from regular workouts.

We laughed and had a truly excellent time. She was clutching my arm and completely enthralled with my stories of far off lands. It was effortless, one of those glorious times that comes around once in a great while, when you feel like a veteran comedian doing a greatest hits tour for adoring fans. She was like putty and I could do no wrong.

When we arrived at my place, she blew me on my 27th floor balcony while I looked over the city. I replayed what a truly great day it had been, and thought how great it is to be a man, in this era of weak beta losers.


Thanks Aveda!!


----

In a couple days I'm getting $75 to try some granola bars, then I'm picking up some un-named beer for a home taste test and will report my findings for $50.

Only in America.

Do you have a datasheet or any info on how to get into product testing like that, sounds easy and profitable!

[DJ-Matt]

(05-17-2016 12:13 AM)GlobalMan Wrote:  

snip

I just had an off topic thought, is there a datasheet on getting those focus group deals?

[Libertas]

The title alone is terrible.

"Beta male."

Maybe you want to showcase a different conception of "masculinity" to the world, OK. But you describe it as being a "beta male?"

No one is going to want to be a "beta" in anything. Who's motivated to be second best? Who's motivated to go for silver instead of gold? Who's motivated to lose?

Of course a lot of people don't want to actually win but that's not the point. You want an aspirational headline. "Beta" is not an aspirational word. And, like it or not, we have a set image of the "beta male" in mind, and no one, not even those said beta males, unless they're incredibly self-hating, wants to admit to be a beta male.

We all want to be an Achilles or a Lancelot, not a Pajama Boy or a Michael Barbaro.

I wonder how much money it will lose. It would be interesting to see their finances.

[RexImperator]

A lot of people see the "alpha" male as a negative stereotype, i.e. bully/douchebag.

[Atlanta Man]

This is gay and uninspiring. A magazine about second place and failing with women and life. Don't go to the gym, be friends with girls, don't learn how to fight or have the physical ability to do so, let your girlfriend fuck other guys in your apartment, and learn how to listen to women you are not fucking-the Beta male,available now at newsstands near you, Faggot.

[Foolsgo1d]

Why does this stuff become so big in the US? Why does it start there?

[scrambled]

(05-17-2016 11:47 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  

Why does this stuff become so big in the US? Why does it start there?

Media + Money + Wealthy/Spoiled Country