Posts: 7,562
Threads: 0
Joined: May 2013
Reputation:
83
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-15-2016, 04:30 AM
Here in England, the free TV is not half bad. There are a lot more channels to browse through which is great since I have no intention of paying the TV tax and some version of cable.
However, one thing that i've noticed while channel surfing are the constant WW2 european theater documentaries. I probably see at least two documentaries a day with such titles as: "Britain on the road to victory" and my personal favorite "Hitler: History's Warning".
Back in the states, there would probably be maybe 1 documentary a week about some random theater in world war two placed between an ancient aliens documentary. I enjoy the history of the war and personally find the pacific theater and African theater to be under rated..
I've asked a few English folks this question and they all seem to get very uncomfortable. I always preface it with mentioning the multitude of other places battles took place. We get it, the war took place here. Why keep constantly reminding yourself of it?
This constant barrage of European WW2 documentaries kills me. Why is England so obsessed with playing the same content and theater day in and day out?
Posts: 3,541
Threads: 0
Joined: Apr 2014
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-15-2016, 05:04 AM
The main reason is because it was the first war to be filmed.
So theres almost unlimited footage to churn out documentaries.
I love them.
Posts: 4,327
Threads: 0
Joined: Aug 2013
Reputation:
65
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-15-2016, 05:35 AM
*Show documentaries about half a million of your native countrymen dying in a world war to save their ancestral homelands from foreign invaders*
*bundle up and auction off your homeland to islamists, arabs, north africans, and south asians in the current day with nary a life spent defending it*
Posts: 5,392
Threads: 0
Joined: May 2013
Reputation:
27
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-15-2016, 09:15 AM
Quote:Quote:
Back in the states, there would probably be maybe 1 documentary a week about some random theater in world war two placed between an ancient aliens documentary.
The History Channel used to be nicknamed "The Hitler Channel" as it played more of that stuff ten years ago.
Only more recently (5 years or so) did they get into more of the aliens and Freemasonry, etc.
They were buying a lot of these documentaries from UK companies for rebroadcast in the US.
As mentioned, there is a ton of archival WW2 footage available, so the cost of production can be kept low.
If only you knew how bad things really are.
Posts: 2,228
Threads: 0
Joined: Jun 2014
Reputation:
13
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-15-2016, 11:58 AM
Once in a while the History channel gets tired of Hitler and switches to shooting Japs for a show or two.
Posts: 5,392
Threads: 0
Joined: May 2013
Reputation:
27
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-15-2016, 12:08 PM
If only you knew how bad things really are.
Posts: 1,759
Threads: 0
Joined: Jul 2015
Reputation:
33
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-15-2016, 03:07 PM
Maybe it should remember the Brits on their last time of glory, like the World Cup 66. Kind of strange nostalgia.
We will stand tall in the sunshine
With the truth upon our side
And if we have to go alone
We'll go alone with pride
For us, these conflicts can be resolved by appeal to the deeply ingrained higher principle embodied in the law, that individuals have the right (within defined limits) to choose how to live. But this Western notion of individualism and tolerance is by no means a conception in all cultures. - Theodore Dalrymple
Posts: 508
Threads: 0
Joined: Nov 2013
Reputation:
24
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-15-2016, 05:07 PM
It stokes up passionate patriotic and nationalist sentiment about a victorious war where the threat of invasion was real....
....and because the enemy was nationalistic white men the narrative is reinforced by redirecting any of that nationalism away from becoming anti-immigration sentiment.
"You aren't against those poor refugees, are you? That smacks of Nazism, and it was a proud display of British values when we fought that evil and destroyed it. Our finest hour, indeed. The refugees are poor and helpless, welcome them. Now that Vladimir Putin, on the other hand, that's another Hitler we need to take care of...."
Posts: 5,392
Threads: 0
Joined: May 2013
Reputation:
27
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-15-2016, 10:54 PM
Quote:Stephen Ambrose Wrote:
"The British had as many problems, if not more, in recovering from victory as the Germans did in recovering from defeat. The British … what did Britain get out of the war? Not very much … not very much. She lost a great deal. I suppose, if you want to look at it positively, she got a moral claim on the world, as the nation that had stood against Hitler alone for a year and had provided the moral leadership against the Nazis at a time when everyone else was willing to cave in to the Nazis."
Seen at 38m 30s
If only you knew how bad things really are.
Posts: 2,332
Threads: 0
Joined: Jun 2013
Reputation:
26
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-15-2016, 11:50 PM
Two reasons why you'd think that the only history the UK has is the European theater of WW2:
1. It was the greatest Pyrrhic victory in history. No other nation has gone from running a global maritime empire to a basket case in such a short time.
This is why the 'plucky British underdog' which stood up against the European top dog story was invented. This hides the fact that Britain was the top dog not Germany and that it was thrown out of Europe with its tail between its legs. The UK had nothing to show for its victory after the empire was mortgaged to the Americans who later foreclosed it. There could have easily been a coup d'état in the UK owing to the swift decline of the country (Lord Mountbatten above was rumoured to have been planning one in the 1970s). Therefore the victory was marketed as a 'moral' one.
2. The WW2 narrative is very important in multicultural countries where it can be leveraged to explain how Hitler was fighting against multiculturalism ergo all the new, imported and invented victim groups which now live in the West. Nativists can therefore be compared with 'the Nazis'. WW2 can easily be used to support yet more world bombing by the US or UK and the huge migrant invasion of Europe.
Posts: 1,216
Threads: 0
Joined: Nov 2015
Reputation:
23
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-18-2016, 05:19 PM
1. It was the last hurrah of the British Empire. After WW2 we fell from 'global superpower' to 'fairly important but not the big player'. Rose-tinted glasses and nostalgia does the rest.
2. It was a victory to be proud of, one that defies logic: the logical decision in 1940-41 would have been to seek terms with Germany, but we didn't. We kept fighting and that's something to get behind
3. As stated before, the amount of footage allows all these documentaries to be made
4. Judged by modern standards, all colonialism and empire building is evil, and Britain did a lot of it. With full on rose tinted glasses on, in standing up to Hitler the British Empire sacrificed itself nobly and gained redemption.
5. Few wars thus fought in the last few hundred years have been so easily categorised as the 'goodies' against the 'baddies'. It's easy to get jingoistic and proud in fighting and beating history's most evil man.
Posts: 11,893
Threads: 0
Joined: Dec 2013
Reputation:
212
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-18-2016, 05:26 PM
I'd suggest you guys check out
Ken Burns: The War
World At War In Color
For starters.
World War 2 is one of my fascinations.
Posts: 1,014
Threads: 0
Joined: Nov 2014
Reputation:
4
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-18-2016, 05:29 PM
The WWII documentaries being pushed hard all lead inevitably to holocaust brainwashing which leads to "we must willingly accept all the migrants and welcome and embrace them, whatever". It's all a part of the liberal globalist agenda.
Hopefully the truth will come out soon.
Posts: 3,067
Threads: 0
Joined: Apr 2014
Reputation:
56
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-18-2016, 05:44 PM
Also, watching trench warfare is like watching people play poker when you don't know what their cards are. Boooring.
I imagine there's just a lot less public interest in WWI. In WWII there's the whole good vs evil thing; it seems a lot more black and white. What the fuck was WWI even about? Most people have no idea, and it's not like there were a lot of WWI veterans around to talk about what it was like in the last 30-40 years either.
Posts: 1,014
Threads: 0
Joined: Nov 2014
Reputation:
4
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-18-2016, 06:04 PM
But a LOT more people died in western europe in WWI! So it deserves to be remembered. I'm old enough to have a grandfather who served in WWI and one who served in WWII. Bothe WWI and WWII were horrible, brutal destructive wars. Nothing like the romantic fiction portrayed in the films.
The difference is the media can push their muslim migrant loving agenda with WWII by analogy to the Jewish holocaust. (i.e. if we don't accept unlimited amounts of Muslims into Europe, we are as bad as Hitler).
This agenda should be resisted by all possible means, even including challenging the Holocaust story.
Posts: 3,067
Threads: 0
Joined: Apr 2014
Reputation:
56
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-18-2016, 06:36 PM
I'm not saying it doesn't. I think WWI was both fascinating and horrific. The tactics were slow to adapt to the lethality of industrial warfare and it was the meat grinder of all meat grinders.
Many more people died at the Battle of Somme than in the entire American Civil War. More soldiers died on the first day of the Battle of Somme than the west has lost in the Middle East in the last century. Death on that scale is hard to grasp; it is awe inspiring in a terrible way.
But, most people don't care, and the TV stations aren't going to put out shows that the average idiot won't watch. That's all I'm saying.
Posts: 3,228
Threads: 0
Joined: Apr 2014
Reputation:
24
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-18-2016, 07:25 PM
There's not much footage from WW1, the documentaries that exist, are good.
I find WW1 much more fascinating than WW2, introduction of air, tanks, proliferation of repeating guns, and how tactics had to change due to all this new tech.
"A stripper last night brought up "Rich Dad Poor Dad" when I mentioned, "Think and Grow Rich""
Posts: 291
Threads: 0
Joined: May 2013
Reputation:
3
What's with all of the WW2 documentaries in the UK?
05-18-2016, 11:48 PM
"Pain is certain, suffering is optional" - Buddah