[Fortis]

(05-13-2016 06:15 AM)SpiderKing Wrote:  

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If this is the way you think, we need you on the forum more.

Bravo!!

[Nonpareil]

(05-13-2016 09:33 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

How many Fabio types are there in China anyway...

When I first came to China in '12, 6'3 200 with blue eyes and dark features, I was sort of a Fabio type with a Mediterranean bend (I've been here over three years, notch count is close to 50 - I had posted photos but I had them deleted when the forum was open...very, VERY few regrettable girls in there).

I do know a few Fabio types in China. Riddle me this RVF; would you go out of your way to date a white 6 who thinks she's a catch because she's 'smart because she went to a good school and has good opinions and stuff' (speaking of - have we seen the T&A?) when you have three fuckbuddies - a Chinese 7 who's a cute student you can lift with one arm, a Chinese 8 who's a Taobao model and a Chinese 6 who's got a bit of acne and not great teeth but big tits and a fat ass? And not only that - you have a constant stream of prospects coming in via street-game, club game, Momo, Tan Tan and QQ/Wechat people nearby?

These guys despise western chicks just like almost any other foreign guy who's spent time here!

==

Even though I've no interest in seeing more of them, I know how white girls can enjoy China...

1) You gotta embrace the culture. Sure some Western culture is seeping in (western food, western clothing, western architecture etc,.), but you aren't going to single-handedly import western attitudes and mores into a country of 1.3 billion people (800 million or so give-or-take being poor-ass nongs who live in the country) that's been around for over 5000 years. You wanna watch Netflix, slut it up and eat hamburgers? You can do that. You wanna wear a Qipao, row a dragon boat and learn to write Chinese Calligraphy? You can do that too!

2) You gotta at least put an effort into learning the language. It's a steep uphill climb (3 years in and I'm probably a low-intermediate level speaker and reader), but it will win friends and open doors.

3) You have to be open to dating the locals. I know they may not be your 'type', but in a country where a fat nerd can get a cute, slim and feminine 6, Chad Thundercock at best punishes all 3 of your holes for a night before ghosting, until two weeks later sending a drunken 3 AM 'DTF?' message over Wechat.

4) China has to humble you at times. You can't be locked into your 'Canada >>>>>>> China!' mindset and always be going on and on about how everything in Canada is better (I've never been royalty a woman in Canada, and I know that's just plain untrue, Canada's cleaner, the houses are far better built and the standard of living for the average person is higher - Chinese has more attractive people, happier people, a stronger sense of community and family, better food, cost of living and entertainment options). Don't come here with a closed mind.

5) Drop the special-snowflake mindset - China lags behind the west in women's rights (in other words they're about right where they should be), you aren't shit here just because you have a vagina (exception: unless you're super hot - and even then all that gets you is a rich husband or sugar daddy). The only teaching jobs that prefer women in China are kindergarten jobs (and who the fuck wants to be a glorified 50-hour a week nanny to crying babies?), because Chinese people know that men will be more reliable and able to deal with the pressures that come to them than women do. China, being a Communist country, places the group above the individual - remember that.

[Zerdame]

Experienced this in almost every major Asian city I'm in. Most recently being KL in Malaysia.

Was having a good time with a few guys, getting drinks at the bars along Changkat before hitting the clubs. There was a bunch of fat white American girls at the table next to me who were laughing and making snide remarks at some of the guys along the lines of "they're so skinny they're like sticks" and girls "I wonder what people see in them, they have neither the ass or boobs to show for it" all sandwiched between their obnoxious laughter and Southern accents.

It was annoying and frankly pretty pathetic since you PAID money to come to ANOTHER country and you were expecting things to BE LIKE AMERICA? I can never understand that logic.

Given that I was alittle tipsy and I was a tourist as much as they were(and had nothing to lose), I went over when we called for our bill and gave them a little wave, "Hey, I was drinking with my friends earlier and couldn't help but overheard your conversation. This stickman is off to bang some local girls, when was the last time you masturbated on this trip?" Before waving again and laughing it off with my friends waiting at the counter.

To call their expressions epic would be an understatement.

[Leonard D Neubache]

Extra Extra! Read all about it! Western woman discovers that progressivism peters out somewhere in North Atlantic!

[Leonard Bernstein]

Hey, if I were in China I'd happily fuck her. Maybe try to squeeze her in before some nightgame.

[AnonymousBosch]

(05-13-2016 06:15 AM)SpiderKing Wrote:  

Let's break down her life...

That was Scorpion-worthy.

[Arado]

I don't know - alot of the WB white girls I've met in GZ and SZ tend to have alot of attitude. There is a small circle of Russian models who I haven't been able to crack and are super stuck up.

The expat crowd is very male skewed in GZ and there are tons of traders from the middle east here that give white girls alot of attention so I don't think their situation is that bad. There are a couple bars with white girls and shitty ratios and sleazy traders but other than those it's really hard to meet expat girls here.

[Fast Eddie]

(05-15-2016 02:36 AM)Arado Wrote:  

I don't know - alot of the WB white girls I've met in GZ and SZ tend to have alot of attitude. There is a small circle of Russian models who I haven't been able to crack and are super stuck up.

The expat crowd is very male skewed in GZ and there are tons of traders from the middle east here that give white girls alot of attention so I don't think their situation is that bad. There are a couple bars with white girls and shitty ratios and sleazy traders but other than those it's really hard to meet expat girls here.

A long time ago I used to think white girls in Asia were completely useless and only to be despised but you touched upon the thing that had made me re-evaluate that stance. They actually provide a crucial service in establishing a kind of cordon sanitaire between the shadier foreign elements and the native women. I've seen it time and time again in clubs, especially in the second tier cities, where sloppy white girls soak up all the attention from the third world crowd, leaving the local Chinese girls undespoiled. Talk about win-win-win.

[CRR]

It boils down to if you're a guy and not getting women, either you're not trying, your game sucks, or you're only going for 9-10s. Bottom line is that one has to take personal responsibility and persevere through it.

If you're a woman, it really comes down to you're not as great a catch as you think you are because women don't really need game or have to try, at least certainly not in the same way men do.

Also, the men I know who complain to me about not getting laid are basically just socially awkward guys who wish one decent girl would reciprocate. These women are dumpy to mediocre yet pissed that they don't have a plethora of top quality men presented to her to choose from.

It makes for great entertainment (just like that article in the LA Times about the chubby girl who was pissed that a younger, tall/fit guy didn't reciprocate) especially considering that they continue to believe the feminist lie that women can determine what men like, and appear to have an inability to do any sort of self reflection.

[hydrogonian]

(05-15-2016 03:24 PM)CRR Wrote:  

It boils down to if you're a guy and not getting women, either you're not trying, your game sucks, or you're only going for 9-10s.

I don't see many 9's-10's in the wild, but I mostly find 8-9's 9 (and thus 10's theoretically) easier than 6's due to better self-esteem that doesn't distort reaction to game.

[CRR]

True, and very good point as that has been my experience as well. Probably what I should've referred to are the guys that only go for the best looking girls AND have no game/charm whatsoever, the stereotypical chubby neckbeard.

[R_Niko]

(05-15-2016 03:41 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

(05-15-2016 03:24 PM)CRR Wrote:  

It boils down to if you're a guy and not getting women, either you're not trying, your game sucks, or you're only going for 9-10s.

I don't see many 9's-10's in the wild, but I mostly find 8-9's 9 (and thus 10's theoretically) easier than 6's due to better self-esteem that doesn't distort reaction to game.

This. I've been trying to figure this out for a long time, thank you for articulating it so clearly.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

The fascinating aspect to this deliciously ironic article, assuming that it isn't just an in-house troll job of the "Global Times" putting out some clickbait, is that it provides a rare glimpse of what happens when you reverse the roles for Anglosphere men and women in terms of their position in the sexual market place. When the author talks about Western mens' "God-like" status amongst Chinese women, you could just as well have substituted this for her own princess-like status back home in the Anglosphere, in precisely the same fashion that her opinion of the local men being, "effeminate, small-sized" could have been substituted by "fat, narcissistic and unfeminine" in an article describing some foreign man's descriptions of women in the US or UK.

More than anything else, this article is revealing in so far as it highlights - albeit indirectly - how out of whack the sexual market place is for men in the Anglosphere these days. This is revealed through the fact that she obviously finds it both incomprehensible and intolerable that it isn't just the Chad McBeefcakes of the Anglosphere that are getting laid, but rather your average nerdy and weedy guy who wouldn't even register on her radar back home, except as a source of beta orbital validation.

The article is particularly revealing since it discloses these dystopic SMP dynamics through the particular lens of an Anglobitch being taken down off her pedestal and getting a very well-deserved taste of the medicine she regularly dishes out to men on her home turf, which is very likely for the first time in her precious snowflake of an existence. In this way she is given an appointment with reality and made rudely cognizant of the fact that she is not, contrary to her previous royal treatment at the hands of beta chumps spanning the length and breadth of the Anglosphere, the star around which the rest of the societal galaxy rotates but is, if anything, judged by her fellow expat Anglo males to be of significantly lower value than the local women. The treatment at the hands of expat Brits, Canadians and American guys that she so petulantly bemoans constitutes, at least in part, the sweet revenge for their no longer having to put up with such entitled and obnoxious cunts as her any longer. And, the iceing on cake is: the reason they don't have to take her shit is the same reason why her personality got to be so obnoxious in the first place, namely, the existence of bountiful options for dating and sex, but this time not for her, but for the men, instead.

There are so many layers of irony to this article, you could occupy yourself for days in unravelling and wallowing in them all.

[Leonard Bernstein]

(05-16-2016 12:41 PM)R_Niko Wrote:  

(05-15-2016 03:41 PM)hydrogonian Wrote:  

(05-15-2016 03:24 PM)CRR Wrote:  

It boils down to if you're a guy and not getting women, either you're not trying, your game sucks, or you're only going for 9-10s.

I don't see many 9's-10's in the wild, but I mostly find 8-9's 9 (and thus 10's theoretically) easier than 6's due to better self-esteem that doesn't distort reaction to game.

This. I've been trying to figure this out for a long time, thank you for articulating it so clearly.

If you only go for 9s and 10s, you WILL be getting laid a lot less, because there are simply far fewer of them. The rates with ultra-hot girls are slightly better, but you still need to approach a bunch of them to fuck one, just like with any other demographic. You can approach five 7s in 30 minutes, whereas you may only see a 9 once every two weeks and only in specific countries, good luck getting your 5 approaches in.

[Quintus Curtius]

(05-14-2016 07:20 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  

(05-13-2016 06:15 AM)SpiderKing Wrote:  

Let's break down her life...

That was Scorpion-worthy.

Now that was a power check. Brutal...!

[HOD]

The Chick is ugly. Plain and simple.

The better question to ask is,

Why would any Chinese guy be attracted to her?

she's not feminine, has an ugly face, short hair and has hairy arms.

She lost her union card the moment she left the anglosphere and realize there is no affirmative action protection China, reality has set-in.

Why would anyone, show any interest, she has no-then to offer, in America or China.

What exactly is she selling? Feminism?

That bullshit, only works in the Anglosphere.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

(05-19-2016 11:45 AM)elimanning Wrote:  

The Chick is ugly. Plain and simple.


Why would a Chinese dude be interested, she's not feminine, has an ugly face, short hair and has hairy arms. WTF.

Why would anyone, show interest, she has no-then to offer, in America or China.

What exactly is she selling? Feminism?

That bullshit, only works in the Anglosphere.

But the fact that she isn't especially attractive physically, still less in character, speaks volumes as to the levels of the thirst in the Anglosphere. Her personality is not merely lacking in any femininity - that's the least objectionable facet to her - but is toxic throughout, evincing every conceivable vice that no sane and sentient man would wish for in a woman, even for a short-term relationship, to wit: her extreme arrogance, conceit, lack of empathy for others, not to mention her utter solipsism and unwillingness to accept any responsibility for her lot. Furthermore, she almost willfully refuses to acknowledge the existence of any perspective other than her own - she's a paradigm case of the Anglobitch par excellance - and she demonstrates this through her own words. The fact that men back home in her native Canada still queue up to buy what shes selling is the bigger story here, in my eyes.

[ovloV]

As much as I enjoy a good meltdown, anyone who goes to China is a walking potential shitshow. This could have just been the straw hat broke the camels back.

[EDantes]

Honestly I avoid raging over women like this when I imagine the future karma in store for her.

By acting like such an entitled brat she'll alienate all of the alphas would might not have minded wifing and providing for her in her old age had she known hot to be ladylike.

Once's she's past menopause she'll either wind up a single, man hating crazy cat lady, or setting for some equally desperate beta chump she can't stand who she'll end up spending the rest of her life miserable with.

Maybe some of these twats will even wisen up eventually and realize that drinking the 3rd wave feminism kool aid is what killed their chance for "happily ever after", much as many of these "nice guys" are finally starting to realize it too.

[Kid Twist]

EDantes is dead-on.

Not even worth reading or listening to their BS, their "punishment" is their own inability to discern reality and the consequences thereof.

[JWLZG]

I'm probably nitpicking, but all you guys so sagely judging her to be the epitome of the flawed Anglobitch must've missed the fact that she's from Québec. Yes, there are Anglo-Québecois, but her name incidates her roots in Francophone Canada?

Still a part of the Anglosphere much?

[Tayo]

There is a shortage of women in China, if she is having problems then the issue is with her and not Chinese men or Foreign men in China.

[Feldeinsamkeit]

(06-19-2016 08:16 AM)Tayo Wrote:  

There is a shortage of women in China, if she is having problems then the issue is with her and not Chinese men or Foreign men in China.

There is, but the absolute ratio of women to men, even within the fertile age bracket, is not decisive here. When you factor in the additional supply of women - relative to the West - that comes from Chinese women being still traditional and generally happy to be with men in stable relationships, along with the much lower obesity rate for women than in the Anglosphere, I think you'll find that the competition for desirable women in China is still noticeably less severe than in either the UK or the US.

[beta_plus]

Trying to find out her place of birth but her linkedin profile says University of Ottawa grad.

So most likely a typical Toronto-Occupied-Ontario entitled and hyperhypergamous chick.

I swear the first thing I thought when I read the quotes at the beginning of thread was "I bet she's from Ontario."

[beta_plus]

(05-13-2016 06:15 AM)SpiderKing Wrote:  

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[*]Lock down a man who can make money (Not hot enough, nor is she willing to behave more feminine to do this)
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Great analysis. I only disagree a bit with what I left in the quote.

In Ontario (where she is probably from), and especially Toronto, she actually is hot enough to lock down a man who can make money. She wouldn't even have to act feminine, just show some basic discipline and responsibility. But she's so entitled she won't even do that.

She's definitely hotter than many of the wives of high powered Bay Street types that I have met. I've met a few who were so ugly I suddenly understood from where the legend of Medusa turning men to stone comes.