[Rush87]

(04-20-2016 04:09 PM)Pointer Wrote:  

Alpha =/= good looking. When feminism is rampart in North America, UK and Australia (thanks in large part to the local white knight population) it's hard to believe that the men are alpha. Go to Toronto, New York and London and you will see the saddest bunch of pussy whipped men: tall, handsome, well dressed, walking next to fat trolls that don't put the slightest effort in their appearance.

A good way to look at it might be like this... When it comes to women, the countries with the LEAST 'alpha' men on the planet are the ones where the men are much better looking than their female counterparts.

Why? Because the majority of men in these nations have allowed the women to dictate & control the sex. They have put the women on such a pedestal that even the four thinks she is a 10. The result is this:



Take my home country of Australia for example. Nowhere in the world will you see thousands of men who would rank at the apex of looks and status dating fat, short, trolls. In fact you will see these men fighting over them. In the above photo they will represent the right side of the image.

In contrast, take a country such as Russia. The women are infinitely more attractive than the men. Despite this, their birth rates are on par with the Australian birth rates and they have a higher percentage of females in their population.

This means that for every group of male 9's fighting over a christmas ham in Australia, there are an equal number of infinitely hotter females fighting over a below average man in Russia…

I would go as far as to say, when it comes to women, Australia, The UK or even the States are the least alpha men when it comes to women. When they can finally restore order, and the left side of the above image becomes the norm. Maybe then can we claim that these men are the most alpha when it comes to women.

[Leonard D Neubache]

I travelled to Melbourne recently and all I saw were heaps of Asians, heaps of fags, and heaps of guys built like fags but worse dressed.

I'm a bit over six foot, weigh just under 100 kilos, and not much of that is fat. Honestly I thought to myself "is this what it feels like to visit Japan?"

The Gold Coast was a different story. Plenty of alpha males strutting around there, and plenty of 6-8s as well.

[Roger]

We are taking about native French, basically European French.

If we talk about European French guys being alpha than just loool.

French guys are very lame in every aspect. You can get their girlfriend in front of them and they are mostly short, skinny and don't dress well.

[MrRoundtree]

(05-01-2016 01:36 PM)Roger Wrote:  

We are taking about native French, basically European French.

If we talk about European French guys being alpha than just loool.

French guys are very lame in every aspect. You can get their girlfriend in front of them and they are mostly short, skinny and don't dress well.

French guys are alpha when it comes to girls...not the strongest guys but very I don't give a fuck attitude about girls...and even in Lille people tend to become very barbarian when they go out...its much rougher than in Canada...and French guys from the north are tall and strong.

[Roger]

I don't know about the " don't give a fuck attitude " but most of French guys are lame and most look like nerds with skinny bodies.

Of course that are exceptions.

A lot of white French females date the Arab and African immigrants in France, there is a reason for that.

[HustleNomad]

In New Zealand there is a very strong alpha culture - the staunch kiwi male stereotype. There is a large population of Maori and Polynesian people here, they are also (in my experience) generally very dominant. Fights can and will start, especially in town at night.

The guys that slay here are alpha as fuck (and that's what the girls expect), everybody else is very docile. There doesn't seem to be much of a middle ground... it can a pretty steep learning curve if you're just getting into game from a pretty tame upbringing.

That's my perspective as an early 20s guy with early 20s friends, anyway.

[Fortis]

Carribean dudes are probably the most alpha dudes I've run into.

I RARELY meet an introverted Carribean.

They can all dance
They're great at rambling
They're aggressive
They're usually the life of the party
They have no fear or shame
They're hustlers who usually have a full-time job and some other shit going on to pull in extra cash
Their uncles, dads and brothers encourage this sort of behavior from an early age
They're also super proud of their countries

(WNLMGUAT) would not leave my girl unattended around them

[WalkingMan]

(05-03-2016 08:58 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

Carribean dudes are probably the most alpha dudes I've run into.

I RARELY meet an introverted Carribean.

They can all dance
They're great at rambling
They're aggressive
They're usually the life of the party
They have no fear or shame
They're hustlers who usually have a full-time job and some other shit going on to pull in extra cash
Their uncles, dads and brothers encourage this sort of behavior from an early age
They're also super proud of their countries

Somehow I seemed to miss out on most of this growing up. Probably because I'm Haitian. I noticed we're so different from other Caribbeans. We're more likely to be encouraged to focus on school and church. Our parents are legendary for being strict. There's no "Haitian Carnival" that's at the world renown level that the other islands have. And I get the feeling that Haitians tend to think they're better than other islands because of their morals.

[Scorpio Rising]

(04-20-2016 06:53 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

One of our defining factors in our innate alphaness in the staunch egalitarianism that runs through our societal fabric. We proudly boast to foreigners wherever we are that Australia has no social classes. A Prime Minister can stand shoulder to shoulder at the local with an indigenous sheep-shearer or a migrant toilet cleaner from Ecuador and exchange good banter over a pint. This is something that the New World woefully failed to perfect. In the USA a Vanderbilt, Kennedy, Hilton, Bush, Carnegie, Rockefeller carries far more weight than a Smith, Sullivan, Steinberg, de Groot, Lefebvre, Kowalski, Hassan, Romano, Marquez or Chang and don't you forget that. Such o-upnemanship, the idea of an aristocracy, would be jeered at over here.

I wasn't sure how to take your very long post waxing eloquently on the Australian male. I would emphatically disagree with the bolded. As for your view of American pecking order the sun set on your dynamic in the 1950s and it hardly even exists anywhere in the states now. It's Steinberg way out in front today with Marquez and Chang rising fast. Not only that but here in the great USA we now have our own firmly entrenched form of "egalitarianism" which essentially means that every one is being dumbed down from individuality into a gray amorphous mass of docile insignificance. I will say this, almost without exception every Aussie man I've ever met has been nothing less than one great guy. Friendly, articulate with a masculine persona that is admirable without being overbearing.

[Lino]

I think the question is pointless, if you are yourself confident and fearless you shouldn't give a shit about where your competitors are from, but I'm french, maybe it's because I'm arrogant

Jokes aside, I think what many of you here call arrogance is a kind of cockiness, it works pretty well with chicks.
There are many alpha men in France but most of them have north african/african/south european/baltic background.

PS: afghan aren't arabs and they don't speak arab.

[leanmeansexmachine]

Serbia is number one.

[Pokerbaby]

In my travels I found one location with surprisingly Alpha guys - Cuba.

They are completely fearless and why the fuck not? If they actually had some money/status they would be unstoppable. They certainly have no fear.

On a side note, they are supposed to be betas, but so far I'm finding the Polish dudes to be miles above where they used to be. All the guys seem to workout and dress well now. Making Poland not as much fun.

[TigerTim]

working out and dressing well doesnt make younalpha. what makes you alpha is landing the highest quality women with the least effort needed. Thats why the biggest betas are aussies lol

[Lino]

Roger, I m using an iPad and can't quote your message...regarding the french male, I am born and raised in Paris but my father is north african and my mother south european so I m not a typical french. I am short and not bulky but I guarantee you that any m***** f***** who approaches my girl while I m there will end up at the hospital (well if he thinks she's alone I won't blame him). I know a couple of native french who would behave the same way.

MrRoundtree is right regarding men in North of France, I lived few years in Lille and the north is rough, lot of poverty, guys there will not be impressed and will not hesitate to fight, they aren't tall and strong BUT they are fearless and kind of fucked up in their head, a good example of them is Frank Ribery the soccer player who is from the north, he is a pure "chti" like we call people from the north.

Each region is different, in Paris the most alpha male will be north african/french caribean/african, they are also the ones causing the most trouble.

[rubashov]

(05-03-2016 08:33 PM)kiwihustler Wrote:  

The guys that slay here are alpha as fuck (and that's what the girls expect), everybody else is very docile. There doesn't seem to be much of a middle ground... it can a pretty steep learning curve if you're just getting into game from a pretty tame upbringing.

Spot on for NZ age 18-30.

After the 20's there seems to be a real lack of 'complete' alphas. Most of the young ones succumb to beer culture, go soft, get tied down to a hag.

30+ there are your corporate (money) high betas with beer bellies - or your gym freaks with no money. Rarely do I meet anyone with both.

[Vronski]

(05-01-2016 01:36 PM)Roger Wrote:  

We are taking about native French, basically European French.

If we talk about European French guys being alpha than just loool.

French guys are very lame in every aspect. You can get their girlfriend in front of them and they are mostly short, skinny and don't dress well.

For your information, many of the biggest names of the Kick-boxing and Thai boxing world are native (i.e not from arabic/african descent) French. Guillaume Kerner, Fabrice Payen, Sebastien Farina, Francois Pennachio, Joe Prestia, Fabrice Allouche, Jerome Le Banner, Thomas Dupuis, ect ect, just to name a few. And then you have all the French with arabic or african origins .... Dida Diafat, Aurelien Duarte, Stephane Nikemia, Abel El Quandidi, Dani Bill, Farid Vuillaume, Cyril Abidi, Jean-Claude Felicie, ect ect ect.

Most of those guys have been World Champions of Kick-boxing or of Thai-boxing. Now I don't know from which country you're from, but unless you're Dutch or Thai, I would be very surprised if you could make such a list.

Edit: I think you're a bit late with this ridiculous French bashing. Freedom Fries are so 2003.

[International_Casanova]

Southern Californians followed by Russians than Aussies.

Ive ran into a few Aussies in my travels and they do have the same genetic physical make up of us Black Americans. Only difference is we don't cockblock and hate on each other. We usually click up when we see other Black Americans on our travels and attack the ladies as a pack. Aussies will def out do us in Asia but in Europe it's a different story.

[Que enspastic]

Hard to say with Aussies because we don't really grow up in a country where people get knived or shot or operate in a mafia dominated society. Nor is it a country where you can easily rise above the rest based on class or finances. It's more easily geared to mass participation in sports than any other country for young men.

Huge amount of guys playing sports like rugby, rowing, Aussie Rules, basketball, surfing, swimming which select for physical strength and high testosterone. You have the fighting Irish & innately anti-authoritarian white Aussie jock types as well as the combustible and gym loving Italian/Greek/Albanian/Croat/Serbian/Lebanese contingent. In UK now and guys just seem very soft, like they haven't ever copped a knee to the face when going in for a ball in play. Yes there are gangs on bad estates you don't want to mess with, but that set up is largely foreign to an Australian perspective, we don't have ghettos or no-go zones for the most part.

There are limited consequences from trying to out-alpha other dudes when the worst that can happen is a fist fight. As a result, you throw around some physicality or you will get outmuscled. You push someone and they don't knife you, they shove you back. Maybe that leads to naivety in other countries as the wandering Aussie just has no idea who he is messing around with when "competing" for a girl (treated like a sport).

[ivansirko]

Bristol, UK? eehhhh maybe.
Tahiti (outside of the Lady boys in Papeete)
Phillipines.
Most Eastern Europeans I have met.

[JWLZG]

(04-21-2016 12:39 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  

I travelled to Melbourne recently and all I saw were heaps of Asians, heaps of fags, and heaps of guys built like fags but worse dressed.

I'm a bit over six foot, weigh just under 100 kilos, and not much of that is fat. Honestly I thought to myself "is this what it feels like to visit Japan?"

The Gold Coast was a different story. Plenty of alpha males strutting around there, and plenty of 6-8s as well.

LOL at the idea that Asians and alphas are mutually exclusive.





RVFers who have visited Melbourne report never seeing so many jacked and fly Asians/Indians in one place.

[semibaron]

The whole question is pointless if you do not compare the relatioship between local women and men.

For this I would say the most alpha men in relation to local women come from Japan.
Second in the Arab world.