[not-a-pua]

Surprise!
Of course not. They think what you know they think. Backwater, shithole religion.
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/what-.../62315-001

Can anyone download that documentary? You need a UK IP adress.

[RedPillUK]

What's this about? It's been trending for two days now on my FB, but I suspect it's just more British pro-muslim propaganda.

Edit: I would normally put in the effort to find out myself, but their propaganda winds me up and puts me in a bad mood.

[Foolsgo1d]

British Muslims? Here is what the majority of them think, like their counter parts over in Europe and the ME.

"I am Muslim first".

[Atheistani]

I come from a British Muslim background. That documentary is nothing. Trust me people are not answering those questions honestly. Real Islam has a very strong anti-state anti-kuffar (non-muslim) stance.

I worry about where this is headed. Being an Ex-Muslim myself and having very critical view of tbe religion I sometimes find it hard living with even moderate Muslims.

Islam is a truly sick religion and you would know this if you had ever noticed the type of fearmongering and brainwashing used to indoctrinate little children. This is very much hidden away from mainstream britain as it takes place in peivate maddrassahs and homes.

I see Christuanity as only a milder form of the same disease hence my criticism of it on this forum elsewhere.

[NewMeta]

Oh my God really, I dont even know where to begin here.

Ok Ill start anywhere, the statistics, I read them and as already mentioned too low to be true and they also probably took samples from female opinion. As if female opinions on the matter are even relevant considering Islam is patriarchal. Their role is to stay home and make babies who gives a shit about what they think they arent the ones going around killing and raping.

Why was this survey even needed? Watch this video below:

THIS IS IN THE UK!!!

The dude asks a room (full of only men might I add) the same fucking questions as the survey and look, that is a clear 85-99% if not 100% of the room that are in agreement.

AND IT WAS FROM 3 YEARS AGO!!!!

Do you think the situation got better? Of course it fucking hasn't. And this is the problem with the UK, they no longer have the time to talk about the issue and they are still talking about whether there even is an issue in the first place. For the problem to be fixed they need to start...like...when that video was released. It's too late and still no action on this.

UK is dead RIP RIP RIP

[Saweeep]

I have no idea how I'm going to get out of this country given the nature of my business.

It's a scary thought...will the shires be far enough away from the madness? For a time...

[not-a-pua]

UK Equalities Chief Who Popularised The Term ‘Islamophobia’ Admits: ‘I Thought Muslims Would Blend into Britain… I Should Have Known Better’
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/...wn-better/

Quote:

UK Equalities Chief Who Popularised The Term ‘Islamophobia’ Admits: ‘I Thought Muslims Would Blend into Britain… I Should Have Known Better’


The former head of Britain’s Equalities and Human Rights Commission (EHRC), Trevor Phillips, has admitted he “got almost everything wrong” on Muslim immigration in a damning new report on integration, segregation, and how the followers of Islam are creating “nations within nations” in the West.

Phillips, a former elected member of the Labour Party who served as the Chairman of the EHRC from 2003-2012 will present “What British Muslims Really Think” on Channel 4 on Wednesday. An ICM poll released to the Times ahead of the broadcast reveals:

One in five Muslims in Britain never enter a non-Muslim house;
39 per cent of Muslims, male and female, say a woman should always obey her husband;
31 per cent of British Muslims support the right of a man to have more than one wife;
52 per cent of Muslims did not believe that homosexuality should be legal;
23 per cent of Muslims support the introduction of Sharia law rather than the laws laid down by parliament.
Writing in the Times on the issue, Phillips admits: “Liberal opinion in Britain has, for more than two decades, maintained that most Muslims are just like everyone else… Britain desperately wants to think of its Muslims as versions of the Great British Bake Off winner Nadiya Hussain, or the cheeky-chappie athlete Mo Farah. But thanks to the most detailed and comprehensive survey of British Muslim opinion yet conducted, we now know that just isn’t how it is.”

Phillips commissioned “the Runnymede report” into Britain and Islamophobia in 1997 which, according to both Phillips himself and academics across the country, popularised the phrase which has now become synonymous with any criticism – legitimate or not – of Islam or Muslims.

Durham University’s Anthropology Journal noted in 2007: “It has been a decade since the Commission on British Muslims and Islamophobia was established, a Commission that through its 1997 report, “Islamophobia: a challenge for us all” (“the Runnymede report”) not only raised an awareness of the growing reality of anti-Muslim and anti-Islamic hostility in Britain, but also marked the onset of what might be described as ‘the first decade of Islamophobia’. In doing so, the Runnymede report propelled the word ‘Islamophobia’ into the everyday common parlance and discourses of both the public and political spaces.”

Phillips says his new data shows “a chasm” opening between Muslims and non-Muslims on fundamental issues such as marriage, relations between men and women, schooling, freedom of expression and even the validity of violence in defence of religion. He notes – echoing an article on Breitbart London just two weeks ago which reveals a growing disparity between older and younger Muslims in Britain – that “the gaps between Muslim and non-Muslim youngsters are nearly as large as those between their elders”.

And while he is cautious to note that many Muslims in Britain are grateful to be here, and do identify with role models such as Hussain and Farah, there is a widening gap in society with many Muslims segregating themselves.

“It’s not as though we couldn’t have seen this coming. But we’ve repeatedly failed to spot the warning signs,” he admits.

“Twenty years ago… I published the report titled Islamophobia: A Challenge for Us All, we thought that the real risk of the arrival of new communities was discrimination against Muslims. Our 1996 survey of recent incidents showed that there was plenty of it around. But we got almost everything else wrong.”

His comments will come as a blow to those who continue to attack elements in British society who are concerned about Muslim immigration and integration, and in fact may even go some way to shoring up comments made by U.S. Presidential candidates Donald Trump and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX)97%
seeking to slow down or pause the rate of Muslim immigration into the West.

“We estimated that the Muslim population of the UK would be approaching 2 [million] by 2020. We underestimated by nearly a million. We predicted that the most lethal threat to Muslims would come from racial attacks and social exclusion. We completely failed to foresee the urban conflicts of 2001 that ravaged our northern cities. And of course we didn’t dream of 9/11 and the atrocities in Madrid, Paris, Istanbul, Brussels and London.”

“For a long time, I too thought that Europe’s Muslims would become like previous waves of migrants, gradually abandoning their ancestral ways, wearing their religious and cultural baggage lightly, and gradually blending into Britain’s diverse identity landscape. I should have known better.”

And Mr. Phillips even acknowledges that the mass sexual grooming and rape scandals that are plaguing heavily Muslim populated towns across Britain are because of Muslim – not ‘Asian’ – men. He writes: “The contempt for white girls among some Muslim men has been highlighted by the recent scandals in Rotherham, Oxford, Rochdale and other towns. But this merely reflects a deeply ingrained sexism that runs through Britain’s Muslim communities” – in a nod to those who have long protested this to be the case in the face of political, media, and even police cover ups.

Even left wing columnist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown told him: “[W]e [liberal Muslims] are a dying breed — in 10 years there will be very few of us left unless something really important is done.”

Phillips comments: “Some of my journalist friends imagine that, with time, the Muslims will grow out of it. They won’t.”

And indeed he lays the blame at the feet of the liberal, metropolitan elite, media classes: “Oddly, the biggest obstacles we now face in addressing the growth of this nation-within-a-nation are not created by British Muslims themselves. Many of our (distinctly un-diverse) elite political and media classes simply refuse to acknowledge the truth. Any undesirable behaviours are attributed to poverty and alienation. Backing for violent extremism must be the fault of the Americans. Oppression of women is a cultural trait that will fade with time, nothing to do with the true face of Islam.”

“Even when confronted with the growing pile of evidence to the contrary, and the angst of the liberal minority of British Muslims, clever, important people still cling to the patronising certainty that British Muslims will, over time, come to see that “our” ways are better.”

In terms of solutions, Mr. Phillips opines on “halting the growth of sharia courts and placing them under regulation” ensuring that school governance never falls into the hands of a single-minority group, “ensuring mosques that receive a steady flow of funds from foreign governments such as Saudi Arabia, however disguised, are forced to reduce their dependency on Wahhabi patronage” and an end to the “silence-for-votes understanding between local politicians and Muslim leaders — the sort of Pontius Pilate deal that had such catastrophic outcomes in Rotherham and Rochdale”.

Mr. Phillips’s comments echo those of the Czech president, and research from across Europe that revealed attitudes amongst Muslims on the continent have hardened. The younger the Muslim, the more likely they are to hold hard-line views, one recent study found.

[Matsufubu]

(04-14-2016 03:24 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

I have no idea how I'm going to get out of this country given the nature of my business.

It's a scary thought...will the shires be far enough away from the madness? For a time...

Scotland and the West Country will be the last to fall.

I'll be emigrating before then because I can see how bad it's getting. I drove through Birmingham last week...jeez...

[Ethan Hunt]

(04-15-2016 04:54 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  

(04-14-2016 03:24 PM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

I have no idea how I'm going to get out of this country given the nature of my business.

It's a scary thought...will the shires be far enough away from the madness? For a time...

Scotland and the West Country will be the last to fall.

I'll be emigrating before then because I can see how bad it's getting. I drove through Birmingham last week...jeez...

West country ahaha. There's a town in Wiltshire that has the largest Moroccan community outside London. West country has gone already. Scottish highlands seem to be the only unadultered region in the UK.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Moroccans

http://www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/news/934...o_morocco/

Second article is dated back to 2006. So 10 years one I imagine South West has gone now.

[Foolsgo1d]

@ CBW; The lakes are nice and if you like rural areas you won't find them there. They tend to stay in the towns and cities and never venture out into the countryside.

[WalterBlack]

(04-14-2016 01:03 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

What's this about? It's been trending for two days now on my FB, but I suspect it's just more British pro-muslim propaganda.

Edit: I would normally put in the effort to find out myself, but their propaganda winds me up and puts me in a bad mood.

Here it is:

[thedarkknight]

I studied Medicine in London, so basically full of South Asians. I somehow managed to get close with a few of their women. Not sexually but more of a friendship type thing. The women are extremely tribal and would often say " our people." They flat out refuse to interrogate and socialise only with "their kind." If these are their best and brightest, I shudder to think what the less enlightened members of their society subscribe to.

[Geeza]

Islam is the new communism - being used to scare the shit out of us by the elite so we keep doing as we're told and behaviour ourselves - accept the continous erosion of our rights and freedoms.

Nothing to do with terrorism - if it was we would have invaded Saudi years ago, who are the biggest supporter's and financiers of terrorism along with the US in the world. but hey they preserve our national interest.

So instead we invade Iraq under the flase pretext of ' Wepons of mass destruction' kill over a million people and find no Wepons. That's paramount to war crimes.

Who benefits from the wars - the big Wepons manufacturers and oil companies who are backed by the same people that are in government.

But hey we just regurgitate the shit we see and hear from CNN, Fox and the BBC - blame the Muslims. f***in sheep. Wake up man.

It's going to be interesting to see how this all pans out.

[tomtud]

I don't think Islam is the new boogie man or as the previous post put "communism". It has been causing havoc for non Muslim lands way before communism. It has been contained by the west for the last while and now it has started to show its true colors.

As for being tribal, this is 100% true. But they are brainwashed here. How so? Well calling each other brother or sister seems to lose value when marriage comes up. Particularly when a non Arab male wants to marry an Arab female. Of course exceptions occur but the vast majority of unions when talking about mixed marriages the male would be Arab and female the other. So, these non Arab Muslim males get the short end of the stick as many are not seen as good enough for marrying Arab females. However, they are good enough/acceptable as brothers to blow themselves up and be below them in the "kafala" system.

Ever since I've seen anjem choudhary on YouTube videos I've come to the conclusion if individuals like that can operate freely (not sure if he is muzzled now) along with many who are behind the scenes, the status of England in the future is in trouble.

[Saweeep]

(04-19-2016 03:04 PM)Geeza Wrote:  

Islam is the new communism - being used to scare the shit out of us by the elite so we keep doing as we're told and behaviour ourselves - accept the continous erosion of our rights and freedoms.

Nothing to do with terrorism - if it was we would have invaded Saudi years ago, who are the biggest supporter's and financiers of terrorism along with the US in the world. but hey they preserve our national interest.

So instead we invade Iraq under the flase pretext of ' Wepons of mass destruction' kill over a million people and find no Wepons. That's paramount to war crimes.

Who benefits from the wars - the big Wepons manufacturers and oil companies who are backed by the same people that are in government.

But hey we just regurgitate the shit we see and hear from CNN, Fox and the BBC - blame the Muslims. f***in sheep. Wake up man.

It's going to be interesting to see how this all pans out.

You're Muslim, right?

[Wreckingball]

(04-20-2016 04:18 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

(04-19-2016 03:04 PM)Geeza Wrote:  

Islam is the new communism - being used to scare the shit out of us by the elite so we keep doing as we're told and behaviour ourselves - accept the continous erosion of our rights and freedoms.

Nothing to do with terrorism - if it was we would have invaded Saudi years ago, who are the biggest supporter's and financiers of terrorism along with the US in the world. but hey they preserve our national interest.

So instead we invade Iraq under the flase pretext of ' Wepons of mass destruction' kill over a million people and find no Wepons. That's paramount to war crimes.

Who benefits from the wars - the big Wepons manufacturers and oil companies who are backed by the same people that are in government.

But hey we just regurgitate the shit we see and hear from CNN, Fox and the BBC - blame the Muslims. f***in sheep. Wake up man.

It's going to be interesting to see how this all pans out.

You're Muslim, right?

just a

[Geeza]

lol ... I'm not, I just dont believe all the bulls*** im fed by the mainstream media.

It's common knowledge now that Al-Quida was funded and trained by the Saudi and American secret service even though it was vermently denied at the time.

Wouldn't be surprised If the Americans are behind this new group of nut cases ISIS.

On a general note I find Europeans are a lot more informed when it comes to world politics then their American counterparts not sure if it's a culture thing or simply education.

[Lizard King]

You're being an Islam apologist Geeza.

Islam is very negative. It's a supremacist ideology like some forms of Judaism. That's just one negative aspect about it.

Your comment about Euros vs Americans is irrelevant to this discussion, it's about the difference between British values and the values of Muslims in Britain. You say anti-Muslim feeling is propagated by the government, but our governments are happily populating our nations with Muslims, so something not connecting in your point.

Anti-Muslim sentiment among the British population is a consequence of the behaviour of the Muslims in Britain. The mainstream media says people who think like that are: Far right, racist, islamophobes, etc. 'Do the math', as the Americans say.

[Street Justice]

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection."

http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?...9&verse=29